How Coaching Can Positively Impact Your Weight Journey with Lisa Salisbury

Lisa Salisbury is a former chronic dieter turned coach who helps women stop obsessing over food and feel confident losing weight without counting, tracking, or diet apps. She teaches her clients to check in with their bodies instead of checking boxes—and to build lives so fulfilling that food no longer has to play the role of comforter, reward, or escape. She also supports women on GLP-1 medications as they navigate the mindset and habit shifts that come with appetite loss and rapid weight changes. Lisa hosts the top 100 podcast Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well and is a certified Health, Life, and Weight Loss Coach with a BS in Health and Human Performance.

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We talk with life and weight coach Lisa Salisbury about how coaching exposes blind spots that keep weight loss and metabolic health plans stuck. We dig into scale neutrality, why “I’ll be happy when I hit my goal weight” backfires, and how mindset work supports maintenance whether you use GLP-1 medication or not. 

• coaching as accountability plus outside perspective to find blind spots 
• separating facts from thoughts using a cognitive behavioral coaching model 
• treating scale weight as neutral data instead of a verdict 
• why happiness does not automatically arrive at goal weight 
• “you can’t hate yourself thin” as a mindset reset 
• normal ups and downs in body image and mood across the month 
• setting a mindset goal plus a weight goal and rating progress 
• GLP-1 medications reducing hunger but not replacing brain work 
• emotional eating in transitions like work to home or car rides 
• building dopamine and comfort without food through simple self-care 
• making existing routines more intentional like showers and sit-down meals 
• walking outdoors after meals for mood and metabolic benefits 
• identity shifts and future self thinking for long-term maintenance 
• where to find Lisa and her free GLP-1 starter kit resources 

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Welcome Disclaimer And Guest Setup

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 0:00

Welcome to the Modern Metabolic Health Podcast with your host, Dr. Lindsay Olville, Board Certified Family Medicine and Obesity Medicine Physician. Here we learn how we can treat and prevent modern metabolic conditions such as diabetes, PCOS, fatty liver disease, metabolic syndrome, sleep apnea, and more. We focus on optimizing lifestyle while utilizing safe and effective medical treatment. Please remember that while I am a physician, I am not your physician. Everything discussed here is provided as general medical knowledge and not direct medical advice. Please talk to your doctor about what is best for you. I am so excited because I have Lisa Salisbury here. She is a life coach and weight coach, and the first coach that I've interviewed on my YouTube channel. So I'm so excited to dive into what coaching is and how we can use it in our weight and health journey, whether we are utilizing a GLP1 or another medication, or if we're focusing just on diet and nutrition. So I would love to welcome Lisa and go ahead and introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Thanks. Thanks so much for having me, Dr. Ogall. I'm excited to share what I do with your viewers and listeners. So yeah, I am a life coach. I, but I might my background, I do also have um a bachelor's in health and human performance. So I kind of came to this work due to just kind of my lifelong interest in health and the human body. And I'm also a certified health coach. And so what we do is there's some amount of accountability that a coach will give you. But I think the main thing that I do is to help my clients see their blind spots. Because a lot of times, whether it's weight related or relationships or any of the other things we might be trying to improve in our life, you're pretty sure you're doing everything you can. When you finally resort to a coach,

What Coaching Really Changes

SPEAKER_01 2:10

you're like, I don't know why this isn't working. And that's what we're really good at is seeing some of your blind spots. And with weight loss and health, a lot of times your thoughts do really get in the way of the healthy habits that you're trying to encourage in your life. And so just looking at it from an outside perspective, helping you get your brain just kind of downloaded. Let's see what's really, what's really causing this. And I do use a model that was developed by Brooke Castillo of the Life Coach School. And it's based on cognitive behavioral theory. So we're looking at rather than our circumstances, the facts in our life, we're looking at the thoughts that are creating our results. So it's pretty much never the circumstance. And it's always what we are making that circumstance or those facts mean. And the very simplest way that I can describe this to someone is by thinking about your scale weight. It is very, very factual because it's data, it's math, it's the gravitational pull on your body at that moment in time. And your current weight, whatever it is, whatever, like literally whatever it is, is somebody's goal weight. And even if you're like, no way, that's that couldn't be true because I weigh this much, so much, whatever, it's somebody's goal weight for the week. Somebody is happy to see that number, even if you're sad to see that number or frustrated to see that number, or you know, whatever your reaction is, there's someone else that's having a different thought looking at that same exact circumstance of that number. And so that's kind of the first way I can help people differentiate between what's really the fact and what is the thought about it. And of course, that that drives your results for the day.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 4:03

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for going through that explanation. And that's how um Lisa and I met each other really was through the life coach school. I found out about coaching when I was in residency training and I was listening to podcasts, and it was actually a medicine-based podcast, but one of the physicians was talking about how she went through the life coach school and was introduced to coaching and then became a coach herself. And I was like, what is this coaching um, I guess, path? And then so I listened to all of those podcasts and then you know got coaching myself through the life coach school. And I just love this approach because until you it sounds it can sound obvious, but we don't naturally think like that. Our brain doesn't think that the circumstances are near are neutral. We really automatically place um like a positive or a negative association with it. And when we can work with a coach, they can help to tease that out and to really see where our thoughts, the sentences in our brain, are creating how we feel about that neutral circumstance. And it is so helpful when you have somebody walking you through that um to apply it to your own life.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Yeah, for sure. And there's there's just so many thoughts that are happening when it comes to weight loss and body changes up or down. There's there's just a lot in the brain about it.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 5:38

Yeah, yeah. And one of the more common ones I think that um women or anybody on a weight loss journey has is that they're gonna feel so much better when they hit their goal weight or you know, a future number on the scale. They think that that number is going to bring them happiness. I'd love to hear your thoughts about that and how you help with mindset along that journey.

Making The Scale Neutral

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 6:05

And um, I guess with with your experience with your clients, do you see that people really are happier when they reach that goal weight, or what what do you see with your clients?

SPEAKER_01 6:18

So that's kind of that's kind of a little bit of a cheater question because my clients actually are, but only because we've worked on it all the way down. If you're not working on it, if all you're doing is saying, when I lose the weight, then I'll be happy, that actually doesn't work because your brain comes along with you. Whatever your brain is doing at your high weight is the same thing your brain is gonna do at your low weight, which is nitpick and find problems and you know, try to place blame. So when you are working on your mindset along the way of the weight loss, first of all, I find my clients tend to um kind of quote unquote need to lose less weight. So they have this number in mind, and then they're like, actually, I'm like, I'm good. Like I feel they feel so much better in their brain, they're not like nitpicking, which just gives you what I call a little bit of like walking around weight, right? We're not trying to get down to none of my clients were are trying to get down to like what I call stage weight, right? I don't train bikini models, right? But that's not their, even for those women, those competitors, that's not their walking around weight. They don't walk around day to day like that. And so a lot of times you think like, I'm gonna be happy at this, like extremely low weight, but really it's probably five or 10 pounds above that, where you're gonna find like some freedom, you're gonna have a little bit of flexibility, but you also have treated your body so nicely all the way down the scale when you're working with someone like me, that uh it is like it is good. You are happy at that point. And so, yes, like you can find happiness when you get there, but the caveat is if you're doing the work. And I love to tell people like you can't hate yourself thin. And I think that when we're thinking, I'll be happy when is a form of hating ourselves thin because you're telling yourself happiness isn't available to you right now because your body is incorrect, right? In this, in some way, your body is wrong, and so you aren't allowed to be happy. And that sounds extreme. You're like, I don't actually say those words. That's the underlying message, that's the like the parenthetical thought, like the thought in parentheses under the one that you're thinking out loud, right? It's the kind of the subtext. Um, it's like what it means. And this is what we do as coaches is to bring out that meaning. And so once um once we get used to treating our bodies with kindness and respect as they are doing their thing that bodies do, which is hopefully a downward trajectory as it's all over the board, right? It's up, it's down, it's up, it's down, and and we're hoping for an overall downward trajectory. But those are the times where it's harder to treat your body kindly. And when you have, then um excuse me, when you when you're not doing those things, sorry, I was kind of on the trying to hate ourselves thin, right? When you're not doing those things, you're you're not gonna end up in a happier space.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 9:35

Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And uh I'm curious

Stop Waiting For Goal Weight

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 9:40

also with your client's experience, um, because it sounds like it's up and down with kind of the weight, and that's what I see with my patients is it's not a consistent weight loss over time, and that's okay, and that's expected, you know, in the path of weight management and health. Um, do you see the same thing in, I guess, their thoughts about themselves and in their bodies um during this journey?

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Yeah, for sure. And I know I've um followed other coaches and where you you're just like some days you just like wake up and you're like, it's it's a bad body image day. Like these things happen. Some days you're like, look at me. I'm gonna wear, you know, this dress that I love. And other days you wake up and you're like, wow, I feel like a busted can of biscuits. And like, yeah, your way, your, your mindset can go up and down. And I find that has less to do with with my clients, with the coaching that I do, because we get like very very disconnected from the scale right away. Like we take that meaning out right from the beginning. Um, so I feel like those kind of mindset days have more to do with um our 20, not our um 28-day cycle rather than our 24-hour cycle, right? So there is a 24 hour circadian rhythm, but I find that those mindset things tend to be more on our monthly cycle. And it's not to blame your hormones, it's just that you're you're not the same every single day of the month, right? You you just you just aren't. And it's okay, and you don't, it's not that you need to make these drastic changes or, you know, I don't subscribe to like, you know, doing specific workouts at specific times of the month, like just do your workouts, but know that I'm not gonna think the same every day. And we are looking for progress. So I will say one of the things that we do, um, I have my clients set goals at the beginning, and usually there's a weight loss goal, but I always have them set a mindset goal as well. And then we give it a rating. So I see things like I want to eat better. Like, how do you define that? You know, I I don't think I don't think I eat very well or I want to have a better relationship with food. These are difficult goals to measure and to decide if you've achieved because you have these up and down days. So a lot of times, like on that one specifically, like better relationship with food. I I have them give me some examples like what's a good relationship, what's a quote unquote bad relationship, and where are you on a scale of one to 10? If one is the worst and it's all of those things that you described as a bad relationship, and 10 is some ideal, where are you? And so they say, like, um, I'm a four. And then I don't revisit that like every week. I wait, and then at the end of the working together, I'm like, so this is kind of how you described, blah, blah,

Body Image Swings And Measuring Mindset

SPEAKER_01 12:35

blah. Where would you say you're on that scale? And I don't tell them because they almost never write it down. I do.

unknown 12:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

And they'll be like, I think I'm like a seven or eight, which is not perfect because we're human. But when they see that much progress in what they rate themselves, that's where you know you've really made progress on your mindset.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 12:56

Yeah, I'm so glad that you define those goals with your clients because I think we have a tendency or our minds have a tendency to be really vague, and especially when we're putting ourselves down, um, and just say, yeah, we're not, we don't have a good relationship with food or we're we're not exercising correctly. But yeah, what does that mean? Because I'm sure there are things that you are doing correctly. And when we can specifically identify that, name it, either we write it down or the person we're working with writes it down so we can remember and watch it over time, we'll we will be amazed at what we're doing. And I think that's so important that to tease that out and pull out and highlight over time. So I'm glad that you do that.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Yeah, I find a scale of one to 10 works really well. Like it's basic, but it's it's just something we're used to with a pain scale, you know? And so people kind of respond to that and they're able to give themselves those kinds of ratings. So yeah.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 13:57

Well, I'm curious um, your experience with clients who are using medications, we'll say a GLP one, and the medications are helping to suppress their hunger and increase fullness. And maybe somebody's thinking, oh, well, if I'm taking the medication, I don't need to work on my mindset because I'm on the medication and that's you know helping me. Um, what do you see with your clients as far as how their brains are working while on the medication? And if somebody like most of us are use food to help comfort us either with negative emotions or celebrating positive emotions when we don't have that option, how do you how do you help uh your clients address that?

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yeah. Um, so I yeah, it is super important still to be to be actively working on your brain, even though it's not like a hunger challenge anymore. Because that with my clients that aren't on medication, that's that's

GLP-1s And Emotional Eating Without Hunger

SPEAKER_01 15:00

where we start, is on their hungerfulness cues and kind of getting back in touch with that. But when we don't have that feedback with the medication, um, yeah, a lot of times they're just like, oh, I'll worry, I'll worry about it later, and they kind of push it off. Um, or like, I'll learn how to maintain once I lose. But we we want to maintain in the same way that we are losing, otherwise it's it is just a quote unquote diet, and then we think we're gonna like go back to normal. Like, there's just a lot of issues with that. So um, so I know so the first thing you asked me was like, do people push off working on their mindset? And I would say yes, but then you also asked um something else, which I was kind of thinking about my answer to the first part. What was the second part?

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 15:49

That's okay. Um, it when we don't so so many of us um use food to cope with negative or positive emotions. So when we don't have that option, how approach that with clients? Okay, so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Yes. So yes, it's confusing because your your body will still possibly have some of those same habits. So if like you're a person who's like habitually goes to the kitchen the immediate moment that you get home from work, like that's just that's just your habit, that's just your path, you're gonna still do that. And then you're like, oh, like nothing really sounds good. And so you're in that transition, which that's just one example of like an emotional time, a transitions when you're coming like from work to home. So if you are say a mom and you're like, okay, I'm going from work to now mom, you change roles. Um, there that transition time can be very uncomfortable. And so we often use food. If you notice you are a person that like grabs a snack every time you get in the car, it's a transition. You're moving into a different activity. And so these transitions can be very uncomfortable, and then you're left with nothing to soothe that because the truth is medications are not, food works. Food does work to soothe our emotions because it gives us that little dopamine hit and we feel a little bit better. Shonda Rhimes in her book Year of Yes, she's like, I would come home from a long day of work and I just wanted to spackle some chocolate cake on top of that. And here's the rub food works. Like I always remember that line because it it does. And so what we have to do, especially on medications, but even for my clients that aren't, because they are eating less and because they're wanting to stop that emotional eating, we have to sort of look at our lives and how do we make our lives amazing? So food does not have the job of constantly being the entertainer, the supporter, the comforter, and you know, all of the things that we use food to do. So we want to take a look at what are the feelings that we're having, what are the emotions that are coming up when we want to eat? And then that's gonna give us the information about how else to solve for that. Some of this is gonna sound very coachy, like self-care. Yes, I know. But at the same time, like actually, yes, are you actually doing that? Do you actually like do the things that your body and your life require to reduce stress, care for yourself, give yourself a little celebration? Like, when's the last time you were like, yay me? I like got dinner on on time for all of these kids or for myself before I had to head off to a meeting and it actually had a good amount of protein, like, hooray, pat myself on the back. Like, even just acknowledging your accomplishments without eating over it is self-care, right? Like being honest about what you accomplished is great, and being forgiving when you don't, right? And so it's just getting really, really honest with your feelings and then looking at what else it can solve for those feelings. So yeah, sometimes you're gonna distract, sometimes you're gonna go on a walk, sometimes you're gonna have you know a big glass of water, and other times you're gonna sit with the feeling and be like, oh, here's here's what I'm feeling right now. It's called frustration, it feels terrible. So there is a lot of like emotion processing and then just looking at some of your well-being activities. What are you doing to create dopamine that isn't eating? So we do a lot of work around that as well.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 19:41

That's awesome. I had so many thoughts um after that. Um, it just makes me think um, again, thinking back to my experience with coaching, especially during training when I was so busy and probably didn't give myself enough time to process my emotions or even acknowledge them, or to acknowledge, you know, all the work that I was doing. And I think it is so powerful when you're working with somebody else who, you know, I know you're trained in this and everyone in from the life coach school to hold space for your client where they can bring to you, you know, how they're feeling. And we, as if I was your client, may not even know what I'm experiencing right now, but you know how to give us space and ask the right questions to kind of bring it out and allow you know the client to process that with you. And I think sometimes doing it with somebody who has that training, um it's it's so powerful to

Self-Care And Dopamine Beyond Food

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 20:40

do it with somebody else. And then you have the tool to do it with yourself later on. Um, so you can then start to apply that in those situations. Um so so I love that because so many of us are so busy and we're just not even taking a pause to check in with ourselves. Um, and that is a skill, that is a skill to learn, and working with somebody um can be so helpful with that. Um, I also would love to hear your thoughts about, you know, the self-care aspect, right? Because we do hear that a lot. Like we need to practice self-care. I think people immediately think to like bubble baths or you know, manicures or whatever, and that can be great, but for everyone it's different. And I'm just curious, like if you can think of specific clients that it's obviously no names or anything, but like examples of what people have implemented and how that has improved their relationship with themselves or with food or you know, coping with their emotions.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Yeah. Some of the well-being activities that we identify um kind of when I do that activity with them are things that you're already doing, but you're rushing or just not paying attention, not acknowledging that these are self-care. So, like what an easy one for me, especially in the winter, is like a really hot shower. Don't tell me, like dermatologists, how bad that is for my skin. Like, I want it to be fiery, right? I want it to burn off my skin, but I just love a hot shower. And so when I get in, like I purposely like take a deep breath, feel my shoulders relax and be like, this feels good. Like acknowledge the things you're already doing. And you'll be surprised how much dopamine it's not like you can feel it. Oh, there comes some dopamine. It's just a sense of well-being that you're like, oh yes, this is good. Like focus on the activities that you're already doing. Because a lot of times I think part of the problem with self-care is we're like, how do I have time to do extra things? And so first, just look at what your schedule has that could be considered. So just these are temporary ones, you know, like the hot shower that maybe you make um, you know, an overnight oatmeal that you just really love. Like, don't take it in the car, right? Like get out a placemat, get get it five minutes earlier to eat it, right? Just like get out a placemat, put down a napkin, sit down, have your meal. Like spend, take a few breaths, feel some gratitude, like have the meal and on purpose, right? Make those meals purposeful. That is also self-care. And if you have time, so there's there's lots of examples of those things, but if you have time to add in, um, I think the biggest thing that my clients love to add in is walking, right? Walking outdoors. That has, I think, probably the biggest effect is just getting out for 10 minutes after lunch. Getting so I'm not talking like the, you know, one an hour a day, but just a few minutes after a meal not only, of course, helps with digestion, but it really kind of resets your day and lets you just be away from the office or away from home. It's not doable for everyone. And so you have to find the things that are, but just being in nature, I find, is the biggest, the biggest thing that my clients love. If you live in a city, you might have to find a park or something like that. But you know, do what you can, even just fresh air can be helpful. Um I'm trying to think if there's any other specific clients that had uh like interesting ones. I think um I will say one more is having having real goals that are functional for your weight loss, I think also is a form of self-care. So for example, I had a couple of clients that were friends and they were working towards, they had gotten um chosen. I I I don't, I've never done it. So I think it's some sort of lottery for the rim-to-rim Grand Canyon hike. And so they both felt like, hey, we're gonna be able to do this if we drop a little bit of weight, like um, you know, reduce this pressure on the knees, all that kind of thing. And so it was this real like functional type goal for their weight loss. And because of that, I felt like they were caring for their bodies and focusing on, you know, the the walking they were doing, the hiking, and um, so that felt also like a little bit of self-care beyond just um aesthetics, which no shame there, but just it it felt a little bit more like self-care to have that kind of functional goal.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 25:42

Yeah, I love that. And for your first examples, I really like how it's just doing what you're already doing, but just being intentional and present and making it a little bit more luxurious and enjoyable. Because I do think a lot of people are like, oh, I gotta add more self-care, gotta add self-care to my to-do list. I don't have time for this, but you you can do what you're already doing and just um in a more loving and enjoyable way. So I think that's a great tip. Um, and then yeah, walking outside has so many benefits, especially if it is after a meal metabolically, that is very beneficial. Um, yeah, not only are you moving your body, helping digestion, helping insulin resistance, but you're getting that sun exposure outside, the fresh air. And if you are an introvert, maybe you're just, you know, have some peaceful time. But if you're extrovert, maybe you know, go with a friend or call somebody and you're doing so many beneficial things at once. Um, that's a really, you know,

Identity Shifts And Future Self

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 26:40

bang for your buck activity. Um, and then I love that goal of, you know, of instead of a weight goal specific, you know, having something that like a functional goal, like you said, that's really focusing on that it made me think of like expanding your life experiences and making your life bigger and and again more enjoyable. So that's really great. Um, I think is an excellent example of self-care. So I know we could talk for a really long time, but I do want to touch on self-identity because I know a lot of people um may identify as you know, living in larger bodies or as being a chronic dieter. What is your advice or experience as people are kind of moving out of that identity, maybe into somebody who is living in a healthier body or a smaller body or um and is no longer dieting and they're you know in maintenance mode and you know caring for their body in that way?

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Yeah, identity shifts are extremely helpful. It's just like when you decide with the first time you go on a run and you just decide, I'm a runner. What do runners do? Runners eat like this and run on this frequency. And so rather than say, I went for a run, identifying yourself as a runner can really be helpful. And so I see a lot of this on Instagram where um, well, my alg algorithm feeds me these things, but it's like, you know, their their Instagram handle is some sort of like fat girl no longer, or you know what I mean? Like they're identifying as someone who is overweight, except for they're not anymore, but they still are like that's still inside of me. And I think that's just really challenging to be constantly fighting against that identity. And it's not that we need to identify ourselves as a skinny girl, but what what do you really want to identify is maybe around your the roles that you provide, you know, um, if you have relationships, you can give those things um some work and kind of leave behind the weight loss aspect of your identity. I think that your scale weight is the least interesting thing about you. There's so much more to you than what your your scale says. But when we've been chronic dieters, it it does become a challenge to think about other things. One thing is kind of back to the well-being activities is to remember that diet and exercise, like those actually are not hobbies. We we sometimes wrap up our whole identity around meal planning and what we're doing for our workout, that it becomes all-consuming and then we no longer do any of our other interests. And so finding other interests, like I love to sew. I don't really know what that's called. A sewist, a seamstress. That's what it's called. A seamstress. I don't think I've I don't know if I identify as a seamstress, but I do like make several, um, I've made several pieces of clothing that I actually like wear on a regular basis. So um, but that is interesting because I've never identified myself as a seamstress because I don't do it for work. I don't do it for for money. I'm just a hobbyist. And so, like right now, I'm thinking, oh, that would be an interesting identity to take on. Like, what does a seamstress do? Where do they get their fabric? What would they do professionally for you know how they would finish these seams? And so when you take on those identities, you're able to kind of say, like, well, what would that person do? And it's a little bit of a future self activity as well, because it's like, well, if that's who I am, what what would that person be doing? And you kind of get information about what you might want to keep doing, start doing, or stop doing based on what that future self that is that person, that runner, that mom, that spouse, whatever that identity or role that you're looking at, or you know, professionally, you had a lot going for when you're becoming a doctor. And so that, you know, you could what do they do right now? So it's it's a lot of like what can we do right now to be that person? So it's a lot of accessing the future self as well. Did that answer your question? Yeah,

Resources From Lisa And Closing

SPEAKER_01 31:10

absolutely.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 31:10

And I think the future self-work work um is so powerful and yeah, another skill that I learned um when I did coaching, and I think is so beneficial. So highly recommend. Um, if anybody was looking to find you and learn more um about your coaching style or maybe work with you, how could they find you?

SPEAKER_01 31:32

I have my own podcast as well. It's called Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well. So I talk a lot about mindset during weight loss and um just kind of a lot of stuff both both with medication and without. I've started to add in quite a bit of medication information as well. And I'm on Instagram at well underscore with underscore Lisa. And I think we'll probably maybe put in the in the captions some of my free links. I have several free resources. So I have a um a GLP one starter kit. So if you're not working with someone as qualified as Dr. Ogwell, if you maybe just get your GLP ones from your primary care physician, they're not equipped to give you the nutrition and the mindset work that you would get from a coach. And so, you know, don't go into a blind, don't, and I'm sure you tell people this as well if they're not able to come to your clinic, you know, don't just think the medication is going to solve everything. You you need to have a plan. And so I have a um just a starter kit that kind of helps you. And if you're even kind of considering medication, you can just check that out to see if it's something that um that you would be prepared to do. And then if you are feeling like overeating is kind of one of your issues, I also have a what to do when you overeat. So we can put those both of those three courses in.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD 32:55

Yeah, absolutely. So they will be included below. And thank you for sharing that with everybody. I that is those are both wonderful resources to have. Um, so thank you for providing that. And I always recommend you know, anybody to surround themselves with a healthcare team because you will be so much more successful, um, especially long-term, if you have a team-based approach to get a personalized plan for you. So thank you. Thank you for listening and learning how you can improve your metabolic health in this modern world. If you found this information helpful, please share with a friend, family member, or colleague. We need to do all we can to combat the dangerous misinformation that is out there. Please subscribe and write a review. This will help others find the podcast so they may also improve their metabolic health. I look forward to our conversation next week.