When Overthinking Feels Safer Than Trust

Maybe you're not indecisive. Maybe you're just afraid of getting it wrong.
Maybe you’re not lazy or distracted, you’re exhausted from trying to make the “perfect” decision.

In this episode of Trusting Her Journey, we’re talking about the real reason so many high-functioning women stay stuck in their heads: It’s not always hesitation or procrastination. Sometimes it’s protection.

We break down what overthinking is really doing in the background:

Trying to protect you from pain or regret

Trying to control outcomes so you don’t disappoint anyone

Trying to keep you safe from judgment, rejection, or failure

But the more we try to think our way into peace… the further away it feels.

This conversation is your reminder:
You don’t have to think harder. You have to trust yourself more.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

• Why overthinking feels safer than moving forward
• How fear, past hurt, and pressure to “get it right” keep us stuck
• The real-life impact of mental overpacking
• Practical ways to quiet the loop and move forward with clarity

✨️ Fuel for the Road Ahead:

Overthinking is just your brain trying to protect you. But peace doesn’t come from playing out every possible outcome. It comes from trusting that you're safe enough to take one step at a time, even if the outcome isn’t perfect.

🖊 Journal Prompt:

Where in your life have you been waiting for the perfect moment to make a move… even though you already know what you want to do?

💡 Small Step:

Pause the spiral. Instead of replaying the options again, ask yourself:
What do I already know to be true?
Then take one small step. Let that be enough for today.

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this notion around like as a woman, especially as a Black woman, you do not have the opportunity to make a mistake. Like you always have to show up in a certain way. You need to always have yourself put together, the things put together, like your life kind of planned out. I think it then becomes this space where we feel like, There is a way that we're supposed to show up. There is a way that we're supposed to do everything. There is a specific way we are supposed to heal or speak or be. And so all of those pressures kind of play into this thought of I have to get it right. Welcome to the Trust in Her Journey podcast. I'm Felicia.

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And I'm Krystalyn.

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This podcast is a safe space for women who are carrying a lot. Women who are trying to trust themselves again while managing We

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know what it's like to feel stretched thin because you're constantly showing up for everyone and putting your own needs last. Here, we have honest conversations about the silent struggles many women face.

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We're so glad you're here. In every episode, we'll talk about the real challenges women navigate, whether it's juggling work and family, carving out time for yourself or learning to trust your instincts again.

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You'll hear us share personal stories and lessons from our experience to help you trust your path and rethink what peace and balance actually looks like for you.

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Our goal is to guide you through the hard moments with honest conversations about boundaries, self-care and leaning on your faith for strength

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if you've been feeling overwhelmed unseen or unsure about how to care for yourself while caring for everyone else you're in the right place

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just a quick heads up this podcast isn't a substitute for working with a licensed counselor or therapist but don't worry if you need that kind of support we've got some resources for you in the show notes let's start the conversation Welcome back to Trust in Her Journey. We're so glad you're here with us.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Hey, Felicia. Hey, how are you? I'm doing good. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_01 2:20

I'm feeling pretty good. I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

We're recording while the sun is up, girl.

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I know we're normally, you know, doing this late at night. I don't know how we survive or what energy we have in our bodies, but it feels good to do this while the sun is up and not after a long day.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Yeah. I'm like, yikes. What am I thinking? Maybe I should have waited until nine o'clock. Nope. Nope. Like hoping nobody comes.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

You want to know what this is? I think that's a perfect segue into today's conversation because we're talking about overthinking.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

And

SPEAKER_01 3:01

I feel like, you know, switching up our routine sometimes and not doing things like we normally do can cause us to overthink. So we're not going to overthink. We're just, gonna go with the flow and and see what happens

SPEAKER_00 3:16

you're right um i think overthinking is something that a lot of people a lot of women silently struggle with um for a lot of different reasons and we are definitely going to get into that today even if you don't realize you're listening you don't realize didn't realize before now that that's something you struggle with hopefully some of the things that we'll share with you will be helpful

SPEAKER_01 3:38

Yes, exactly. Today, we'll really be talking about what's underneath overthinking and why so many of us struggle to trust ourselves enough to make a move, make a decision. So I'm excited because I think we all can benefit from that. And I say we all because this is not just a conversation for the listeners. It's also a conversation that you and I have often. So I'm excited to jump in yes

SPEAKER_00 4:09

so I don't I know for me I don't necessarily always always only overthink because I'm indecisive I feel like I'm a pretty decisive person a lot of people rely on me to help them make decisions because I do tend to see things in black and white I think though that's probably more true for other people's situations that I see things in black and white but when it comes to myself and you tell me if you agree but sometimes being afraid of not making the best decision or the wrong decision is likely what typically leads me to overthinking. Even now to what I'm going to say, right? I want to make sure I'm saying the right thing. I try to steer away from getting closer to it being perfect. So I'm I'm not struggling with that as much. I know it's not going to be perfect, but I want it to be helpful. Right. I want what I'm saying to resonate with people. I want my decisions not to affect the people that I care about in a bad way. So I start to I tell myself that I need to think about this more before I make the decision.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Yeah. I think I'm on the other end where I overthink a lot of different things and it can be small things sometimes, like where do we want to eat or, you know, like it's just the smaller things, you know, and I'll even overthink, like you said, how I will have a conversation with someone, how I will respond, what will happen in those situations. And I think Fear does play a part in overthinking. And I think on the other side of that is sometimes I overthink because I have been hurt in the past, especially when it comes to making decisions or showing up in a certain way. And so I feel like overthinking in my mind, the way that I have processed it is like, a way of protection for me of not getting hurt. So I think even when, again, we've made choices or decisions before and those decisions didn't go so well, I think it it feels a little bit heavy to then walk into a space of like not overthinking or easily making a decision or standing 10 toes down and whatever thought or decision that you have. So for me, it's a space of like, okay, I did this in the past. I made this decision and based off of my decision or my choices, it led to me getting hurt or someone else getting hurt by my decision. And so I don't want to recreate that cycle again. So I overthink every little thing and sometimes look for that validation from other people to see like am i making the right decision am i doing this right so

SPEAKER_00 7:10

yeah right so you just described feeling unsafe yes because you've made some decisions that didn't really turn out the way you hope they would whether or not a lot of us realize it overthinking is our brain's way of trying to keep us safe um And the hardest part, I think, even to say it now is hard because me, I'm trying to be safe. So I'm thinking this through. I'm thinking it through. Yep. Not the air quotes. Yeah. But I don't have peace about it.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Yeah. So now I'm just stuck.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

Yeah. And when we get stuck, I think that's when our minds kind of go down the rabbit hole and we begin to overthink every single thing from when should I have the conversation? Should I have the conversation? Am I doing this right? Am I getting this right? Yeah. So it then becomes like this constant state. I feel like it causes, especially for me, I don't want to speak for anyone else, but for me, it causes my anxiety to increase. crease because now i'm overthinking and i'm trying to prepare for what i'm walking into but it's like girl you are causing yourself more harm than good right now like overthinking this situation

SPEAKER_00 8:33

overthinking is our brain's way of um or brain's version of overpacking for a trip so you're trying to prepare for every outcome every possibility um but the mental The luggage is heavy, more heavier than we thought it was going to be. The last time we flew, I think, which is spring break, I know, I don't think, I know that my luggage was at the limit. So, I mean, I knew it before we left home. It's just... But what if it rains? Oh, the weatherman said, well, it's going to be chilly this day. So I got to pack an extra jacket and then I got to pack certain shoes and then maybe I need extra pairs of pants. All of these things that, of course, I get there and I end up wearing none of this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

None of the stuff that I'm telling my husband, wait, no, back up. I got to go run back in the house and get this. And I ended up not using any of those things. So all of that luggage ended up weighing way more than... I needed to. So by the time we get to our destination and I want to shop, get to them, have room in their bag.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Yeah. You didn't have any room for any extra items.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Right. So if overthinking is our brains version of overpacking for a trip, right? All of that mental luggage ends up weighing us down. We end up having, carrying so much more weight around with us than we need to. And the only thing we were trying to do was stay safe.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

So

SPEAKER_01 10:10

Stay safe and get it right. I think it's like, you know, we want to be safe. And I agree with you. I think it's the space of like wanting to feel safety. And even we talked about it before, just like being at peace or finding peace in that way before. And I also think it's just, I want to get it right. Like, I don't want to get it wrong. I want to be in control, a part of our anxiety. Like I want to be in control. I do want to get it right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Yeah. So where do you think that comes from? Because I know people who are in, who are listening, who they're in families where they may be the one who, decided not to join the military and everybody else joined the military. They are the one who decided not to go off to college when that's what their family was saying they should have been doing or playing a sport that they no longer are interested in. And that could feel like a lot of pressure. And so they may struggle with all the decisions, small and big, like you mentioned before, because they feel external pressure from the people that they love people whose opinions really doesn't matter to them.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Yeah, no, I agree. I think you just spoke on it. Like a lot of times there is this pressure for us to get it right. And that pressure, I think that even starts with just like family or the people that we are constantly around. And it can look like family members. It could look like, you know, church members. It could look like, you know, teachers or even just like the societal pressure or expectations of us, especially when we talk about women. And so I think when we were raised to like, believe to always get things right. And even in previous episodes where we discuss this notion around like as a woman, especially as a Black woman, you do not have the opportunity to make a mistake. Like you always have to show up in a certain way. You need to always have yourself put together, the things put together, like your life kind of planned out. I think it then becomes this space where we feel like there's a way that we're supposed to show up. There is a way that we're supposed to do everything. There's a specific way we are supposed to heal or speak or be. And so all of those pressures kind of play into this thought of, I have to get it right. And

SPEAKER_00 12:52

it's not just in one space. Everything is so perfect and put together. And I'm like, that's

SPEAKER_01 12:59

not reality and it's not to shade them

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whatsoever

SPEAKER_01 13:05

yeah I think that that is that person's creative process or the way in which they want to show up but that is not we are supposed to show up at all times

SPEAKER_00 13:17

so yeah well it doesn't have to be the standard and I know that and I'm not saying that they owe us these people who post content like that owe us anything by saying hey this is just me this don't have to be y'all but I we have to, it's important that we remind ourselves that this is not the standard or this doesn't have to be the norm. It may be the standard for them and their household or it's how it generates content for them. There's the whole ASMR that's really, really popular. And so even the sounds and things when people are organizing, it's really helpful for a lot of people. So there's a lot of reasons behind why people are doing it. And for most people, it's because they're getting a check. That's how they make money. So that's yeah in your real everyday life we don't want to put ourselves in a position where we feel like we have to measure up to the idea of this is how this is what right looks like this is what organized looks like this is what a real person's life should look like every single day yeah

SPEAKER_01 14:18

because

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that's just not the reality so when overthinking my real life You can share yours. Some things I overthink about, asking for help. Definitely. I tell myself a lot of stories about why I need to wait or even not ask for help at all. Parenting decisions is, I guess, probably at the top of the list for me, though, even more than asking for help. Yeah. Yeah. You just want to get it right.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

You want to get it right.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

You just want to get it right. More recently, I've been trying to be really honest with my daughter about being okay with not getting it right, being okay with not knowing. So sometimes I do tell her when I really don't know, mommy doesn't know. I know the answer to that. She thinks I'm an encyclopedia. Yeah. she does and you know

SPEAKER_01 15:26

kids love to ask like why what is that like girl I don't

SPEAKER_00 15:31

know I don't know I am getting really comfortable with saying I don't know and I'm sorry if I say something and it was not accurate or wasn't correct or my tone wasn't you know what I thought it should be because I even started to overthink that like oh maybe I said that in a way that's gonna make her sad and she's probably in her room crying and she's not gonna want to be my friend when she becomes an adult right I'm fast forwarding. Yeah. So she's 18, 21, 25, 30 years old. Yeah. Because that one time I said something in a harsh tone, she's not going to want to come home for Thanksgiving. All of these things I overthink. Oh,

SPEAKER_01 16:08

you really go... okay okay okay

SPEAKER_00 16:13

no judgment i'm just no i go down the rabbit hole and part of that too i think is because for lots of reasons some of it's just because i'm how i'm wired but also because of the stories i hear every day people who really do not want to be around their parents

SPEAKER_01 16:28

yeah

SPEAKER_00 16:28

because of how they parented them and i don't want that to be my kid so trying to flip it and be really intentional and not overthink as much but just hey i messed up or i don't know yes i'll try to do better next time and let that be a part of my healing process um because i'm i'm just not going to always get it right

SPEAKER_01 16:52

yeah i think for me uh definitely you know the asking for help part the parenting piece is definitely up there and i think sometimes If I can be 100% honest, I even think having conversations with my husband sometimes, I overthink too. Because I am currently in a season where I'm trying to work on my tone in the way that I deliver certain information and the way that I process information that's being provided to me. And so there are times where like there could be a disagreement or something that we are talking about. And I will overthink like, well, if I say this, this is how he's going to respond. Or if he says this, This is how I play the whole conversation. how will this impact my clients and so I'm overthinking things that it's not even like a make or break it situation you know it's just like girl make the decision let's see what happens from there but I'm like going to worst case scenario yeah yeah after the first thought so

SPEAKER_00 18:34

yeah you play in every single scenario what if they get every single what if I regret this what if I fail what if no one shows up all the things instead of trusting what you already know know.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

We know we can't try to, we can't control outcomes. We can try to set ourselves up for success. But when we get stuck trying to control every single outcome, a lot of welfare aspects for me, sometimes I just don't move at all. I'm frozen.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Right. I either end up with decision fatigue. So I don't, I'm just so exhausted because I don't want to have to make no, any more decisions.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Somebody else pick for me. But in the truth is I really don't want them to do that. I'm saying it, but I don't think they're going to choose. Right. But I'm also scared and I'm not going to choose writing also. Right. So everything I need, I'm learning to trust that everything I need, I already have the internal resources, the wisdom, the clarity, the Everything I actually need, I already have within me. I just need to trust that whatever decision I'm going to make, especially when I'm intentional about making sure that my decisions align with God's will, it's going to turn out for my good.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

It's

SPEAKER_00 19:54

going to be okay. It's going to turn out however it's supposed to turn out.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Yeah. So it sounds like a part of what you're saying is just when we begin to overthink some of the, I guess one of the very first steps that we should do is focus on movement and not perfection.

SPEAKER_00 20:12

Yes. Just move. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yes. So we shift gears a little bit and talk about some things that actually help us to break the cycle of overthinking. Right. Because it's important. We need to know what's happening. We need to be aware. But when we really get stuck in our head, we want to give our listeners some things they can actually do. Yeah. And so I've shared what's been working for me, reminding myself that just do something, make a decision. Just one thing. Just do one thing. What's one decision that I can make that doesn't require the actual outcome to be perfect? Because I know I'm a freezer. That is my trauma response. Okay. It's a conversation for another day.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yes. That's what I do. I freeze. It also looks like procrastination. Right. So freezing looks like me trying to make sure everything looks perfect all at once. But I get so overwhelmed with trying to make sure it looks perfect. I do nothing. And that's not helpful. So what decision can what's one thing I can do? Just one thing I can do. And if the outcome isn't perfect, it's OK. I'm good with that. So that's one thing that you all can try. Those of you who are listening and struggling with freezing because you're overthinking and so you don't make any decisions at all, decide what's one thing you can do that does not require the outcome to be perfect. If it turns out great, that's a bonus. If it doesn't turn out too great, then we just reassess and move on to the next step.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yeah, I think another thing that you can do is kind of like just name the pattern out loud. So you can say like, for instance, it could be like, I'm overthinking because I'm afraid of blank. So in the example that I provided around what I kind of overthink about sometimes when it comes to communicating like concerns that I have or issues or just communicating at all, I'm overthinking because I'm afraid of blank. It could be anything. him leaving us having a larger argument us not speaking for days just naming the pattern out loud because then it like it disrupts like the automatic loop of us going to like the worst case scenario but it also yeah yes but it also brings to the forefront what we're thinking like okay we're thinking this but is that really gonna happen if i just say like hey um can you not put your socks here or can you text me this or whatever the conversation of our minds can also eliminate the overthinking the negative thoughts that may come up and then it reminds us that like, no, you're not crazy for protecting yourself or keeping yourself safe, but this may not be a situation that you even need protection. Yeah, exactly. You don't need any protection. Like you're here with this person. This person makes you feel safe. So just talk.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Yeah. In a safe relationship, um, I eat with a partner or your best friend or some, you know, someone you trust. I, I, even encourage clients to say things like, there's a part of me that's saying, if I tell you this thing, right? Because we're also practicing vulnerability. There's a part of me that's saying, if I say, if I come to you with this thing, if I tell you this issue or concern or this thought I'm having, you're going to leave. You're going to think I'm crazy or you just, you're going to judge me or whatever. It's going to make a bigger impact. going to have a bigger argument so putting it out there naming it can take away some of the power the control that these negative thoughts have over you and then so if we name it we call it call a thing a thing say I'm overthinking this because then decide what's one thing that you can do make one decision one move that you're okay if the outcome is not perfect and doing that it's going to actually bring clarity too right so if I take one step forward then I can decide depending on the outcome oh but that was good let me take the next step oh that didn't really work let me reassess let me regroup a pivot if I have to

SPEAKER_01 24:39

yeah No, I agree. And even after we do those two things, I feel that it then gives us permission to actually make a decision because sometimes we feel that we're stuck because we don't know what to do. our end goal, we still just feel like we are not allowed to make a decision at all. And so actually giving yourself permission to make a decision and then put you in a space of like, you know what? I'm human. I may get it right sometimes. I may not. This is an opportunity for me to learn more about myself, learn more from maybe the mistakes that I'm making, but also learn a lesson from how good it feels to make this decision. Like what happens? Yes, it gives you a space of confidence And the more that you just like give yourself permission to make a decision, the more that you, I think, you know, name it and call out the pattern. You are building confidence over time to continue making decisions without hesitation. Eventually you get to that place where you're like, you know what, I will make this decision. I don't know what's going to happen, but let's roll with

SPEAKER_00 26:10

it. It's going to be all right. Yes. Yeah. So these tools obviously will not erase every worry that we have. But they can help to give you more agency over your life, over yourself. I think they help remind us that we're not powerless, that we're not lost, that we're not crazy, that there's nothing wrong with us. We're learning to use the internal resources that we already have within us. And it's also just a great way to take care of yourself, to show up for yourself. So if... Proverbs 30, Proverbs 3, 5 through 6. It's a scripture that a lot of people talk about and post about. It's the scripture that says, trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding and all your ways submit to him and he will make your path straight. And some versions say honor him. And I kind of mentioned this earlier. We are, when we are overthinking, we're leaning on our own understanding. Right. And although we know that we have a lot of things that we already need, a lot of in a lot of wisdom, a lot of knowledge. Those of us who are highly educated and have worked in our field of expertise for a long time is, you know, speaking in regards to business decisions. Right. We know a lot of things and still leaving God out of the process. it can be really detrimental to us we cannot have a escape plan for every single situation that we are fighting against or coming up against or just dealing with in our everyday life we can't possibly think of every possible outcome um so i want to challenge you all just to trust god As your guide, take to him the things that you have been struggling with, things you've been worrying with, things that you have been overthinking about, things that you, whether you're afraid, things you're afraid to say out loud, the things that are keeping you up at night. Take those things to him. God, does this align with the life that you have for me? Is this something that you want me to do? Is this a thing, a place you want me to go? whatever the thing is um carry that to him and ask God to give you whatever it is you need to be able to lay down or put aside the things that he no longer wants you to carry and ask him to give you the strength to be able to carry the things that he does want you to carry either way leaving God out of the process isn't helpful to any of us but for some people and some people um find that the outcome doesn't always go the way that they want, even though they have prayed. Right. So that's possibly why they're struggling to carry things to God. But again, I challenge you to try, try them again and see, see how that works out for you.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Yeah. And just remember that faith does, I just want you to think through this in a sense of the way that you explained it before, just because we have faith, it does not mean that we won't feel afraid. I mean, it just, it just truly means that we won't allow fear to stop us. So, you know, God moves with you and when you move in faith, he's going to move as well. And so it's not necessarily saying that, oh, because I have faith, I am I'm 100 percent like I'm not going to be afraid. I can do all of these things. It's just the moments where you remind yourself like, yes, I'm afraid, but I won't let the fear stop me. So that means I'm going to have faith that whatever decision I make, I will have support. I will have God. It's a constant reminder that I'm going to do this and whatever outcome comes. I experience, I know that God will be there to support me as well as your family, your friends, the people that you have in your circle too.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Yes, yes. The scripture says I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength. Yeah, that's where we... should be looking for our strength to come from. So asking God to give you the strength to be able to make these difficult decisions or to not overthink even the small decisions and not relying on our own strength because there's limits to that. There's only so much we can carry on our own.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

All right, ladies. So before we go, let's take a pause together, a rest stop before you step back into your day.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

Yeah. So overthinking has caught, kept so many of us stuck, keeps us caught up in this loop in our head. And it's hard to move forward. It helps us to think we're not safe. And then we end up not feeling at peace. You don't need to think harder. You just need to trust yourself more.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Yes. Yep. Oh, okay. So since you put it that way, we want to share like a reflection question, something that you can process or think over until the next episode, but also just think over until you are ready to move forward and make your first decision without overthinking. So the question we want to leave you with is where in your life have you You've been waiting for the perfect moment to make a move when you already know what you want to do.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Did

SPEAKER_01 31:49

you make that question for me? She came up with the question this week. So I feel like I'm just kidding, but, oh, that was, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

So that means that if you, if there's been this pull, this nudge to do a thing and, If you haven't been doing it, if you haven't done it yet because you're waiting for it to be perfect this week, instead of asking for more advice, instead of over processing it again, just pause and ask yourself, what do I already know to be true? Then just take one small step. Some of you may be courageous. You won't take one big leap. That's fine. Yep. But for those of us who are not ready for that, just take one small step. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Well, we are super, super grateful for you all tuning in and listening to the podcast and being a part of this community that we are creating. We hope that you share this with someone that you love or someone that you may dislike as well. Just share it as much as possible. So I'm just saying, so everybody can get a dose of healing and we all, yes, And we all can continue to show up for ourselves in many different ways, as well as show up for the, our sisters and the women in our communities. And remember next week's episode is all about the pressure to prove yourself. So you don't want to miss that.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

All right. See y'all next time.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

All right. Bye. That's it for today's conversation. We're so glad you joined us. If

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