Episode 25: "puck bunnies"

Episode 25 is here and this week the Girls Who Overshare are feeling extra chatty… mainly because we MET A LISTENER in real life and honestly, we’re still not over it. 💌

As always, we kick things off with the weekly catch-up. Lydia shares her latest snack obsession plus the fake tan hack that’s currently changing her life, while Emma explains why dinner dates are officially superior to drinks dates — because once cocktails enter the chat, things can become a very slippery slope very quickly…

Then we get into the main segment: Amazon Prime’s new series Off Campus ⛸ We’re dissecting all the drama, chaos and relationship dynamics from the show and asking the important question 💗 how much of it actually applies to real life? From fake dating and friendship dynamics to fuck boys and falling out of love, we’re unpacking the “3 F’s” and oversharing our own takes along the way.

Expect hot takes, questionable dating opinions and the usual chaos. 🎙️

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Welcome back to Girls Who Over Share.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Episode 25, my dudes. Oh my god, 25. 25, we're halfway to 50. And that was one of our goals, 50 apps. Yeah. So we're we're at the halfway mark now. I don't know if 50 is a good a good goal, actually. Because surely we'll do 50 is did we underestimate? Maybe. I think we were at a point where we couldn't visualize doing this on a regular basis. So I think 50 sounded like a lot at the time. Yeah. But in actuality, it's not. But think about it, that's 25 episodes away. That's actually quite a bit. That's quite a bit of work. How many weeks are there in a year? That's what I want to know. How many weeks? 52. Oh, okay. So we have under the episode. I don't actually know. I think it is 52. I think you're right. Let's look. Weeks and a year. You know why how I figure that out? You get 52 weeks of Matt leave. Yeah, you do pay for the baby. Of course you would know. Yeah, it is 52 weeks. And we said we wanted to do 50 episodes. Yeah. So that's an episode a week for a year. Yeah, I guess so. Roughly. Slow. Wow. 50 episodes. I think that's a reasonable goal. We don't want to set unrealistic goals, people. That that's the first step to failure. Okay. Make them manageable, you know? Yeah, yeah. You're so right. You're so right. Anyway, babes, how are you? Uh girl, I'm tired, I can't lie. I am exhausted. I've hitten that point in my cycle where I'm just like, mate. Yeah. Just like mate. It's just I'm kind of out the other end now. This week was hard. Right. Like it was strawberry week, as we've coined on the pod. Um, and I was going through it. Hot flushes, cramps, just no energy, sleepy all the time. I'm just exhausted. I just need a holiday. Like, I just need a holiday where I'm actually not doing anything. But that sounds lovely, but that also sounds like the biggest test of my life because as you know, we struggle to do nothing. Yeah. But is that I would say you know what? I would say I would I would say you're better than me. Well, yeah, I can't have like that without your panic cleaning. Fucking hell. I think you can rationalise rest a lot more than I can. Right. So you need it too. Is that my that's my point? That's my point. I think that would be good for us. But I think there's like I think there's I think rest can come in multiple forms. I don't think it necessarily has to mean lying on the sofa. Yeah. Like you can be doing things that are chilling, but you you know, you're not necessarily just asleep. Yeah. I would love to just leave my phone, take a digital camera to capture pictures, yeah. Hand in my iPhone for a Nokia. Yeah. So I can just call, you know, whoever I need to ring just in case of an emergency. Absolutely. And that would be stunning. Yeah. So other than tiredness, I'm good. I I didn't I should probably should have vetted this with you before, but a girl came up to us at the weekend. She did. And she said she listens to the pod. She's a listener. And hey girl, thank you for listening. Her name's Annabelle, if I remember correctly. I I was a couple of chicken wines in. A couple. I'm pretty couple of bottles. A couple of bottles of Blush Rose in. It was Bank Holiday, leave me alone. Um that Annabelle's wine. My girl. Honestly, what what a surreal moment. You're a listener. And I think at the minute, our listenership is sort of a combination of like families and friends, or or people who know of us who are just curious and nosy and want and want to listen. Yeah. The fact we've got someone who's listening who just wants to listen. I know. It's a wild thing to think about. So the shout out, girl. Thank you. Shout out Annabelle, thank you so much for the first time. Honestly. She said keep going, and that gave me all the motivation that I needed to just to keep going. Yeah. You know, she cracked me up as well. You are so funny, girl. You were like, who me? You are me. No, Annabelle was so the listener, the Belly Pop was like, you guys are me. Everything you say is me. I was like, really? Yay. I was like, girl, I love I'm obsessed. It's made my night. Honestly. That was so surreal moment. So shout out to you, babes. Thank you so much. You were lovely. When we had our hangover, like sort of debrief the next day. Couldn't believe it. We were like, Emma, we met a listener. And we just kept saying that, and then yeah, there were long pauses of silence and staring into the distance. Yeah, we just want to meet more and more of you guys. Absolutely. So if you do see us out, oh my god, Liz, come up. Come up and say hello, because it's it's the light of my life. Oh, honestly. Yeah, so thank you so much for listening. So fun. Wow. Um, I'm good. Um, so I've got a tip for the girly pops actually. Oh, a tip. Yeah, so we constantly talk about our sort of horrendous failures at dating. Yeah. And if there's anything I can do to help another girlie out on her quest to find the man of her dreams, listen close. Any of the ladies who are looking for pilots, I know where they live, I know where they reside, all the pilots are in Brighton. Pilots. Pilots. As in men who fly planes. Yeah. Men and women who fly planes. Listen, you would assume a pilot would be up there with the most eligible bachelors out of all the mix. Do you think? Well, no, I know. Because my friend has a friend who's recently single, yeah, who's um who's a pilot. Because he said he was like, Well, yeah, he's single, like just broken up with his missus over of like four years or whatever. But he says, I'm not worried, and I was like, Why is that? He was like, Because he's just the most eligible bachelor, and I went, What does he do? And he went, he's a pilot. And I went, I understand. But do you why are pilots in Brighton? Because it's close to Gatwick. Now, I've made a note. Listen, they're in Brighton, they're in Hove, they're in Henley if they're doing really well. Really they're making the good money, they're in Henley, right? Because apparently it's a really easy commute to Gatwick, and that's where the most of them live.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Really?

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Because if they've got families and like kids and stuff like that, it's really quick on the motorway straight away, that's where they are, Queens. I heard pilots. If you're looking, that's where they are. Get your asses to bright them for a night out, they might be out there. I'm not sure if you should be looking for pilots because the majority of shit I've heard is like that. What I've seen on TikTok, stop, is like pilots are often married. No, and they're shagging the air hostesses. They've got a good time gal in the air, but they've got they've got a wife and kids at heart. You're right. That's what I've heard. So steer clear of Henley, Brighton, and what was the other one? Hove. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I've heard that they're they're little rat bags. Really? Yeah, because of all the travelling and like close proximity with work. I don't know, mate. I don't know. Isn't that just any man in any work environment though? Yeah, I mean, in my experience, yeah. Receptionists, air hostesses, personal assistants, the lot. Yeah, and I imagine the whole being, oh, I'm a pilot thing is is it's quite you haven't got too much craft in a few years. Yeah, you you're woo. You just show up in your uniform. Especially, I imagine an easy jet pilot you probably wouldn't bat an eyelid, but like anyone else, Emirates. British air. I'm not sure how much like I think you want like a commercial um uh airline, you want to work for a commercial airline, but I think uh like private jet pilots make bank as well. Oh yeah, this is true, yeah. But yeah, that's where they all are. I just thought I'd write write it down. I just thought I'd share the information. Yeah, because apparently that's all they are. But I I found that quite funny. Imagine going to a school and there's like 15 kids and all their dads fly planes in Brighton. Surely that's in existence. You know what would be fucking fantastic? The real housewives, but or they're all married to pilots. So you know how you have like WAGs where you like follow all the wives and girlfriends of all the football players in the UK, they've done shows like that. They need to do one for the pilots, the pilot wives and girlfriends, the pags, oh the pags, but also, I was gonna say the fags, the firemen.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

I can't say that.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

I can't say that you're gonna have to beat that. The women who are married to firemen, you are dating firemen, also well done. I wish I could I'm shaking your hand through the mic through the screen right now. Dead industry to have your your partner a part of. Back in the day, I used to have a thing for bouncers, and I I've dated a fair few. Oh Lord have mercy, and that is a scary trade as well. Like the amount of threats, like threats to like pull knives on people. What pilots getting a threat? We went from pilots to firefighters, oh firefighters, hats off, like that's a hard industry to have your partner a part of, and then I went to security door work. That's that was my trail. Yeah, um, but when I was with my ex, he used to get threatened, like followed home. Yeah, it's a scary industry. Hypothetical question. If if you could date a man in a particular kind of industry like that, like firefighter, army, police, doctor, pilot, what what are you doing? He would be he would be like a private chef or something. Really? Yeah, like a Michelin star. Really? Like a Gordon Ramsay. No, not a Gordon. No, there's this on on there's nothing wrong with Gordon.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

There's nothing wrong with Gordon.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

But there's this guy on TikTok, fucking hell. I I was watching his videos today, but I just never like them. Anyway, he like is very sensual with the cooking, and he'll like slap an egg yolk or like slap a chicken breast. Yeah, or whisk whisk whisk some eggs with his like two fingers. It's all very wet and sensual and well you like the content. Do you know what he's very attractive? But he's like, he's some sort of he's yeah, he's like squeezing things, and oh, he's like he's got like a a mixer, an electric mixer on his shoulder, and he like smacks it on the counter. I'm sorry. All the girls in the comments are just envisioning themselves. Well, no, honestly, honestly, there's kids on this house. I know it's so good, Sasha's so good. He's so sexy, but he can cook as well, and it's all just brilliant. Oh my god. Brilliant. So probably him, but he's not like a chef with like uh like an anger issue, a nicotine problem, like working in the spoons, like he's definitely just doing odd jobs and sods, you know, like here there. Yeah, because it takes a particular kind of person to be a chef.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

I've met a fair few chefs in my life, and they all just validate the stigma that they're either all really angry, yeah, or they have a crazy life story. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Um, so you're going for a chef. I don't know what I'm going for, you know. Um I'd probably so horse girl niche, but probably like a farrier. What's that? That's a guy who puts shoes on a horse. Yeah. Have you seen that one, that guy in the UK? What's his name? What's his name? The girl girlies love him. Hang on. He's the hottest farrier in the world. That's actually quite good. That's very niche of you, Dean. Oh, his name's Sam Sam Wolfden. Wolford official. Look at this man. I'm just gonna show him a really quick yeah. Show me. I'll put it mum and I love this man. Oh, I'll put the video over here so you guys can see. Wait, hang on. This is him. I date Fario. Oh, 100%. So good. Okay, wait. I need to I need to find the sexy cooking guy. Good with animals. Yeah, it's quite a hands-on job. He wears them trousers, the tradey trousers. Oh, okay. Oh gosh, have I found him? Have I found him? Sam Wolfden official. I'm sorry. You got to go. What this guy is doing. Oh, he's guys. Oh, girl. He he needed a ball of dough and then fucking. I don't even know how to describe that. I'll put the video up. He fucking put his face on this piece of dough like he was rubbing his face in between some titties. Yeah. Oh, it's all very it's all very jiggly. I'm sorry. There's a lot of liquids going everywhere. If this man goes on the date, it's like, oh, what do you do for work? I'm a chef, but I'm I'm like a born chef. I don't know, but he just looks like he'd be a good time. He's a sexy chef. He's a sexy chef. Okay. Anyway, this all started with the pilots being in Brighton. Literally, the pilots in Brighton. The pilots are in Brian's homes. Another thing, um I went on like a first slash second date. I don't know if you were gonna talk about this. I am gonna talk about it on here because we were close, guys. Like this is a safe space.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

This is a safe space.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Um and the thing is, right, I'm not gonna say how I felt about the date necessarily, but he did share some really good, um, a really good insight. So one thing about first dates is I'm not going for dinner with you. Like I'm not gonna sit and eat a meal that's too intense in front of you. Like, I'm not gonna do that. Way too intense. I always say drinks, but he was telling me that's where I'm going wrong. Really? Yeah. I I can understand, okay. I feel like I know why he he's got his reasons for that, but just tell me anyway, and then I'll yeah. So he basically just said that um that drinks are low commitment, like really low effort, and you can just like leave whenever you want if something's like not going well. It doesn't show like good intentions and commitment. He thinks dinner is actually way more of a gesture and shows better intentions than just going for drinks, and also going for drinks can also lead to you getting too drunk and ending up at theirs, and then you just shag them. Yeah, and that's that's the reason I thought he was gonna say because of course you're gonna like him after three glasses of wine. Well, of course you're gonna think it's going really great, yeah. Yeah, an easy jet pilot is looking like an Emirates pilot after three dresses. I know, I know. Yeah, so should it should it be dinner? I understand how, yeah, like you said, that that can come across too intense. Yeah, but if you're meant to like get on, then surely it's yeah, it should just be easy. Yeah. Otherwise, guys, we need to start doing day dates, coffee. Like Well, I'm like, where does coffee sit in all amongst that? Is coffee really extremely low? No, because it's it's one in the advice of Grace Beverly, a date shouldn't last no longer than you say two hours. Yeah. Because you should you need to end it on a high, and then you shouldn't like it's like that progressing into oh, do we go for drinks? Do we do this? And then it ends up, you know, just being a one-night sound or whatever, and it's two, it ends up just being casual accidentally. So a date should last no longer than two hours. Coffee's great for that. Also, if you're just going for drinks in the evening, the evening again, slippery slope. Also, it's really easy to hide hide behind alcohol. You have two drinks and you can talk to anyone. A coffee, you're sober, yeah, you know, and then also if things go well and you go for coffee, you could always plan dinner the next day, you know what I mean. I just feel like I'm so nervous that I could I just can't eat, I completely lose my appetite because I'm like I have butterflies or whatever. The last thing we want to do is sit in front of someone and just make a pathetic tet attempt at eating. It's also really hard to like you're trying to get to know this person, and it's like if you're doing all the talking and they're just listening, you're not eating, and then it's just it's just too much is going on. When you and I go for food, food is the same as well. I only want to eat with you if I know you. So maybe maybe there's a there's a middle ground, maybe it's like you just go for some small plates, yeah. You're not going for like a whole last dinner, yeah. I guess so, you know, even still, yeah. I think also with me, I always go on dates. I feel like if you've watched the podcast, oh yeah, I feel like a lot of my earlier stories around me going on dates shame and shame. It takes a lot for me to actually go ahead and do it. Oh yeah. So I do feel like if I do have a drink, it does help me. It just it just mellows me out, you know. Liquid courage goes a long way, ma'am. It really does, goes a long way, but I do agree with Grace, like I do think it can become a slippery set, yeah. Yeah, it's but I'm like, and also he did also say that person should make sure that you get home okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

In because he was like, if I go home and like my flatmate asked me, like, did you get home alright? And I just went, I don't know. Yeah, like I'm a bad guy. Should walk you home or walk you to your train or whatever. This man got me a car home. I wasn't gonna say it, but he did. This man got me a car home. If my standards now have completely shifted. Crazy. Ever since that date. I mean, you you've come a long way from Spoonsman. Oh my god, yeah. Yeah. We that wow comment below if you were here for Spoonsman. Yeah, if you were here for Spoonsman, if not go with an emoji episode. I'll put it in the description actually. I'll put in the Spoons Day episode. Oh my god. So you guys can listen to it. Oh my god. Um but I was like, oh my god, yeah, that's so true. He was like, that's such like dickhead behaviour. Yeah. What do you mean you've taken a girl out? You haven't picked her up. Okay, if you've met her there, granted you live in a city, whatever. But if you haven't made sure she's got an home alright, whether that's walking her to a tube stop or paying for her Uber, then that's just not not good. Not the vibe, not good. Mate, I need to go on a date in 2026. Yeah, girl talk to me. How are you? Uh on that front, there's nothing to talk about. These men be living in my phone. Be living in my phone. Yeah, honestly. Like it's not even worth wasting my energy. I think Instagram has created this festering environment where men who aren't serious about you can linger and lurk. Yeah. And and and just like drip feed you little things. And I'm just like, you're all annoying me. They're all trolls under a bridge. Honestly, and I'm just like, some of them at the weekend were testing me. I was like this on my phone. It's too many. Um, I don't take any of them seriously. I'm like, if it's meant for me, it should be easy. So none of you are meant for me. Um god, you're so right. In other news, I have a new snack obsession. Oh, is it sweet or savory? Savory, and and you've had it too, guys. Lidl have introduced these, you know, the MS Onigiri bites, so it's like rice. I'm pretty sure it's salmon or tuna, and it's got seaweed on it, it's fantastic. Lidl have introduced a version, and our closest supermarket is a little, so we are often in there, as much as it's not my supermarket of it. No, it wouldn't be my first trip. Um they've got these onigiris in there, and I swear they put out like 10 a day because they're never in there. And ever since I had one really hungover one day, I was like, it gives me my sushi fix. Yeah. And they were in the shop today. I picked up two one for Emma, one for myself. Um, they do a chicken and teriyaki one, highly recommend that as well. It's like I want to learn how to make make them because I've seen people make them on TikTok. Top, yeah, they don't look that hard, but I'm obsessed with odigiri at the minute. I think we just need to get our sushi rice down. Yeah, because I can do a basmati rice, like a dry fluffy rice. We need to do sticky, we need to manage sticky rice. How the fuck you even do that with no idea. We do rice vinegar, yeah. That's what gives it that sushi rice, isn't it? Okay, so maybe we need to figure that out. And then it's like you've got to cool it down, make the fillings, but I reckon we can do that.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Um, so that is my new snack obsession at the minute. I would have it every day if we could. Yeah. Um, guys, sleeping in fake tan is out. This spray tan in a fucking bottle is in. Garnier have this tan, it's an hour developing tan, and it's a mist. And you just spray it on yourself, and it makes you nice and golden brown, golden brown after like two hours. No sleeping, all wet and sticky in your white sheets. Yeah, it just makes you brown. It's clear as well. So there's no sticky, stickiness. There might be a slight tack to your skin. You don't buff it in, you let it just dry. Yeah, and then I I was putting moisturizer on top of it at the end of the day. Like, yeah, after a couple of hours, as soon as I was done finishing it and ready, I was like, I'm gonna put some moisturizer on. Didn't even didn't even like mess with it. It's so good. I am not sleeping in fake tan ever again. This little Garnier bottle of of tanning mist is is the way fucking forward, man. Do you know what? It's I'm loving it. It's so good, and it just makes tanning such a low maintenance task. Yeah. And it's it's just quick. Even if you just want to do quick arms back, you know, you're wearing a strappy top, you're good. Yeah. I think we're pretty late to the game with the mists because I was chatting to the girly pops in the office. Yeah. I think we just missed the memo. Really? I think a lot of girls use them. Okay, so we might we might be, we might not, yeah, but so easy, so easy. Um, I'm never fake tanning again. I I wish I was one of those girls that was like, right, Thursday night, fake tan routine, let's go doing it every week. But I fall off, get pale, think I'm ugly, then fake tan, and I'm like, I'm alright again, and it's just this continuous fucking cycle. Um lastly, so you know, there's a feature in your phone where you can see how much you spend on subscriptions. Fuck off. I couldn't tell you how to do it now, but I don't want to know. I have a lot of subscriptions. One of them that really pisses me off is Emma and I both have Prime. Why are we both paying for Amazon Prime? I don't know. So that's one thing. I had it first. There's a lot of I just need to create, I need to audit the subscriptions in this family so we can do an overview who has what so we can get things cancelled. We need to streamline the shit because I don't know if this is a lot of money. It shocked me, okay? So how much do you think I've spent on subscriptions in the last 12 months? I'm gonna let you girlies take a guess. 120 quid. 420 quid in the last 12 months. What is that divided by 12? It's like my it's like my TV subscriptions. That's like 36 pounds. Is it 36 pounds? You you are such a smart guy. 75 quid a month. Yeah, I spend 35 quid a month on subscriptions. You are such a fucking I need to do a clear out. Wow. Thing is, I manage a lot of our own subscriptions as well. So with the pod, like I manage our subscription with our distributor, so that's something that we do combined. So it's like I'm not paying for all of that money. Other things that we have in relation to the pod, we've just got a fucking wonky pod subscription as well. Yeah, that's like 27 quid a month. You're joking, not a month, every coffee pods, yeah. Every two months, 27, yeah, so it's like 14 pounds, yeah. 1350. Yeah, so 420 quid, my dudes. Alright, the coffee one I can justify. Netflix were on the ad one, yeah, which is 14 quid. Yeah, do I pay for that? Do you pay for that? I pay for Disney. You've got Paramount, haven't you? I have, and I've got Apple. I had now, I don't have it now. What else we got? We've got Spotify subscriptions each. Yeah. Because I had to pay for my own one because I'm an artist. They act like artists to make in bank. I had to make my own, I had to come off my mum's family one and make my own one. I got booted off that one too. Honestly, yeah, yeah. We'd still be on mum's Netflix if we weren't in somebody's house. Absolutely. Send me the code so we've got the $5.99 Netflix. Our older sister, Athena, she was like, Lydia, don't admit that to people. Yeah, she thinks we're frugal. I'm not frugal. She thinks we're tight. I love stuff. Oh yeah. 100%. I watched the ads, it reminds me in my youth when we used to watch I TV. It's nostalgic. It gives me a break to watch TikTok as soon as that's on the boat, it goes off TikTok comes up. And we're scrolling. Um, um, yeah, I've also got I've got something else as well. So I saw this TikTok and it said that the food hygiene ratings in King's Cross and St Pancras are diabolical. And people who work in St Pancras and King's Cross station literally back up that you you shouldn't eat there. What do you mean? Like eat what? Hygiene level one. Like this wasn't a shock. E and L calf, that place that's grotted. Oh my god, there's flies in the window. It's disgusting. Yeah, don't eat from there, no. But apparently they've got like where they're keeping the stock is gross. But if you think about St. Pancras and King's sauce, it's duty. Apparently you should be eating in there. I think MS is alright, but I don't think you should be eating in the world. Okay, so places like where the food is like a sandwich from MS. Oh bless you. I might sneeze again. Hey fever, guys. I think I'm alright. Alright, go on. That's a close call. So can you get a sandwich from MS? Is that alright? Or no, the stuff that's exposed, like the bakery stuff and the Yeah, so like Starbucks. Oh what's that burger place? Shake Shack. Why shouldn't you eat from there? Because it's like they're making the stuff in the kitchen. So we can't have a breakfast cup. I didn't even think about that. Blank Street. Got no idea what I'm doing. Are drinks included? Yeah, should I just have a look at the hygiene rating? For um why is that place still open? Shut it down.

unknown 29:16

Shut it down.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

Shut it down. Hygiene rating, St. Pancras station. Yeah, one star, mate. One star LN, unit 32 to 33 scored one out of five. Okay, if you're eating from L and N, you're a tourist. You've never been in there before in your life. Why are you eating from there? Literally. The way they stack the sandwiches, I'm like, how long? Yeah, Gail's is safe. We've got a five star rate in there. So that's alright. Surely Breakfast Club is up there. Let's have a look. Breakfast. You'd hope so. God, I'm waiting on 10. Oh, there's no public hygiene rating just yet. I think it's because they only just opened it also. There is no public submission hygiene rating for this specific location. Why isn't it public? Don't eat in that E L and N calf. L and N. L and N or whatever the fuck it's called. It looks disgusting. Don't eat there. Yeah, no, but I think I've got to be a little bit more. A little fun fact. Don't eat in St. Pancreas, guys. They look like their laundry money for you. Yeah. MS is alright. I think you can do that, then that's fine. I do love a cheeking MS. Um anyway. So should we get into what today's episode is about, guys? We are off campus fans. We are puck bunnies, if you will. Yeah, we are.

unknown 31:04

Do we? Do we do it?

SPEAKER_01 31:07

We don't do that in the same. We loved the boy aquarium before. We absolutely love the boy aquarium now. We love it now. We are puck girlies. The fact that they've been able to translate this into the series, I'm obsessed. Yeah, Emma and I were having a great time. We were pulling scenes back. Yeah. We are obsessed with the storyline, and we are so glad that season two is confirmed. Do you want to give a bit of a summary to the pie? So I think you can I'm sorry, both. So you can only really watch this if you can only really be entertained by the next half an hour of this episode if you've watched off campus yourself. If you haven't, feel more than you're more than welcome to listen if you want to. Yeah. Otherwise, pause, go watch the series, and then come back because Emma and I are going to be talking about basically off campus for the next the next half an hour. Yeah. Okay, so today we're breaking down the relationships and chaos that are so deeply rooted in the series off campus. Although the show is fictional, there's definitely something we can learn about ourselves as we live vicariously through Hannah Wells and Allie Hayes. Yes, ma'am. So we've categorised the relationships into four themes that all begin with F, which I'm absolutely living for. So we've got fake dating, friendships, fuck boys, and falling out of love. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. So we've got the first one, fake dating. Yeah. So Hannah wants the guy who ignores her to suddenly want her. And it raises the question: why are we so attracted to people who don't choose us naturally? Go on, Dean. I think that's something that all people can relate to. Like that. We've all got a guy or a girl that we've been interested in the past, and it just hasn't. They either haven't liked you or haven't taken notice of you. Um, and I think personally the explanation that I can give for paying so much interest into something, into someone who doesn't want you is I think it's easier to continue chasing someone rather than accepting that they just don't interest you as much as you're interested in them. Um, so I think it's easier just to kind of take this windy road and try and give yourself some complex explanation as to why this person isn't interested in you instead of just going, okay, yeah, I'm just not this person's cup of tea. They do not see me the way I see them, and that's okay, and keep it stepping. Um, I think something that Hannah's character in off campus does very well is her interest in Justin. Justin, thank you. Um, who's like the he's like this mysterious indie rock band boy. Um the kind of interest there comes from what I've spoken about before is building a character in your head of what a guy will be like, and I don't think she she doesn't know him like she knows the other immediate characters in the series, and I think she's kind of created a version of him in her head that she's bought into, and then as she gets to know him, she she realizes that they have less in common, but she's like, This is what I want, and you're mysterious, and you haven't given me attention, so I'm drawn to you. Um so I think it's I think it's a chase, it's a little bit of have you heard that analogy of like um a dog chasing a car? What are you gonna do when when the dog actually gets the car? Yeah, true, you know, yeah. No, that's not good things, yeah. And you also don't think dogs aren't thinking that far ahead, do you know what I mean? Right, they're just running, they see a car, they're like, Yeah, they're just running, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you've got what you're not doing, actually thinking about the destination if you actually want that thing. I think a lot of us do that. We're like, oh, is he interested? Do I like him? Yeah, genuinely. Well, can I interject? Yeah, it's like, does she genuinely like him? Yeah, or does she just want everything that he has? Yes, which is something I think has been a common theme for you everyone. That's been common though. Guys, we're close here. Besties, listen closely. I had an epiphany recently, and I realized that the men that I was going for, I found that I was jealous of certain things that they had. So it wasn't that I was sort of infatuated and there was this mutual like connection and the potential for it to turn into a relationship, it was that I had an admira admiration and to to a degree felt jealous of the things that they possessed, whether that be a certain skill, yeah, whether that be money, whether that be looks, identity, it can be so many things. Yeah, and I think sometimes it's easier for us to simplify it and find and attain those things with a physical, like tangible person, as opposed to you trying to acquire them yourselves. So it's like if I get that person with those qualities that I so desperately want for myself, if I can make a man or someone with those qualities fall in love with me, that is the biggest, like that's the most validating ego boost that I can get. And it makes you feel worthy, it does, you know? Yeah, and in the context of Hannah, I think Hannah is envious of how Justin is able to fully express his love for music, writing, he so confidently just writes music and performs, whether as she hides behind the fact that she's like, Oh, I'm just a songwriter, I'm not a singer, when she actually is a singer. So I think she just, like you said, I think she she envies who he is and she wishes that she had what his she wishes that she had the qualities that he has. Yeah. Whether as with Graham, he's the complete opposite to her, they're the complete opposite interests. She doesn't she doesn't have like a personal interest in the things that he's interested in. Like if you think, if you think about like Hannah made a playlist and added Justin's songs to a playlist, like she's idolizing him, yeah, and not like she's not basing her attraction to him off of genuine interaction, you know? Yeah, no, exactly. But I think we all we all have an example of that where we like someone more than they like them, and it's very hard to let go of. Yeah, it's very hard to let go of. Yeah, and I think also like I think if she actually took those all away, she'd realise that she actually doesn't like him. Yeah, and I think if there's anything we can all take away from that is you know, like don't don't chase someone because you you want them to like approve of you and like who you are, and um I mean he's a beautiful guy, but like it's just not it's just not worth it. Also, this idea of you know it's a fake dating trope, and I think that she because it was it was based on a lie, she was dating someone else to try and to try and get Justin's eye, and because like um Garrett was telling him telling her how to be and how to entice him, it's like by the time that Justin bought into her, she didn't know how to speak to him because everything she did was an authentic, it was based on another man's instruction, yeah. So it was just it was just meant it was gonna fail from the beginning, yeah, you know, yeah, and I just think also you can do the most like self like compromising things just to get that person to like you, like you let boundaries slip, like you do things that are really out of character just to just to have that person in your life, and do not do not become that person, do not let shit slide because you feel like you're so close to having that person like be yours. Yeah, anyway. The next F, the next topic is friendship. So, one of the best parts of the series is the friendship between Allie and Hannah. Absolutely. Um, and I think we just need to discuss what makes their bond so special and like so real. I think Ali's one of my favourite characters, yeah. In in the series, I think what makes their bond so special is that they are so different and they're pursuing very different things, even though Allie is she's an aspiring actress, and Ella is a um sorry, Ella Bright has her actual name, Hannah's character, sorry, um, is a singer and songwriter, they're so different. Like Hannah's more, I would say, introverted. Allie's so extroverted. And one thing I think that even though women's relationships are incredible, and I don't know where I would be without my female friendships, I think there can be a lot of cattiness, a lot of comparison, yeah, and a lot of judgment in female relationships, and I just love the fact that they support each other wholeheartedly, like there's no competition, they're just they both support each other like like you've not seen before, and I think it's what you should aspire for your female friendships to look like. I think that's what makes it so special because they're so different, but they support each other like to the ends of the earth, and I love that. Yeah, and I think as much as the storyline is about is about Hannah wanting to find a boyfriend and like find the love of her life, whatever, it's kind I found I found myself sort of chuckling at moments because she's got this amazing relationship with her friend, and she really just sees through her. Like, there's a moment in the series where Hannah has sort of built up this story in her head, and she needs to sort of confess and tell the truth to Ali, and like Ali just simply says, like, I know she was like, I knew I was just waiting for you to be ready. And imagine having such an amazing relationship with someone that they can just they can just see into your mind, and they just know you so whole wholeheartedly, yeah. They see you without you even having to like put yourself out there, yeah. Like they see everything that's underneath. I love that, yeah. Um, but I think in terms of what can we learn from their relationship is like maybe your person doesn't need to be an identical twin of who who you are, like in terms of your like your character and your qualities, maybe your best friend, like your person is everything that you're not, yeah, because they can make you like just sort of become an entirely different person. Give you like if you're quite a shy person, if your best mate's someone who's very confident, like I think that's something that was like really apparent as we were like watching the show. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it's just like they lifted each other up, yeah, they didn't tear each other down, they didn't judge each other, they were very honest but um supportive of one another, constantly like just checking in with each other, and yeah, I think that's something that we can definitely take away from your your female friendship. When Hannah's packing to like go and stay at a boy's house, I think sometimes when you're in a really exciting phase, like getting to know a guy and you're living with a housemate, particularly like your female friends. I've definitely had a situation where it's like the friend has felt like they've been like neglected or whatever, yeah. And I my I almost like held my breath in that moment. I was just sort of waiting for the plot to like twist and a rift sort of to start between Ali and Hannah, but it didn't. She was like, No, like I love this for you, like this is about you, like go and join, have fun. Yeah, there's no jealousy, no, like even when Ali starts seeing Dean, she doesn't want it to come out because she doesn't want to ruin the fact that she's met Dean through Hannah's relationship. With Garrett. Agreed. So she's like, I the only reason I'm involved in this group is because of my best friend. And if we were to date and break up, what does that mean for my best friend's relationship within the group and stuff? Like it's so selfless. And like it Hannah doesn't know yet, right? No, it's still a secret. So I I would assume that when she finds out about that, like she wouldn't even be angry. She'd be like, well, why didn't you why didn't you tell me kind of thing? I would have been supportive. Like, I just I just don't gauge any jealousy from them. And I love that. I'm so excited for like season two and like what's gonna happen because I feel like we're gonna be so we're gonna see so much more of Ali's character. We are, and I'm obsessed. She's just amazing. She's she's hot. She yeah, she's hot. She's very J-Lo. Oh my god, that scene is incredible. You know, mum started watching on the room. Oh really? And I was so I went to my mum's say, and I was just sunbathing in the garden because it's like 30 degrees today in the UK, unheard of. Um, and I would I could hear the TV from the garden and I could hear the J-Lo music coming on, and I was like, I can see the scene in my head. I'm like, that is literally every girl's dream. I could watch it again. What a scene. We might have to while we're waiting for season two. Definitely. Okay, so the next one is fuckboys. So can the right girl change a fuckboy, or have they just never liked anyone enough before? Do people actually change because of love, or is it the case of finding the right person? No, go on. Listen, I think in order to protect ourselves, yeah, we need to understand that this series was written by a woman, okay? Right? Yeah, this is written with the female gaze and yearning in mind, okay? We don't have one, let alone two major fuck boys at a uni, just settle down for two quirky gals. It does not happen, let alone best friends, okay? That is fiction, my gals. It's fiction, okay. That's true. You in in those circumstances, do not the lesson from off campus. I don't think there is a lesson. I know there is, but the lesson is not, oh well, he see he can change for me. No, yeah, you you have to think that you are the rule and not the exception always in circumstances like this. Do I think the right girl can change a man who's had you know not great history or habits with women? Sure. I don't I also think it is not a badge of honour to take on the challenge of trying to make someone better and use you as like an experimentation. Yeah, there is no honour in that. I I don't think we should be throwing ourselves to the lion with the hopes that they won't kill us. Not at all. You know, I just think I just think I think that's something that's sort of been romanticised, you know, a lot. Yeah. With listen, he'll listen to me and he's different with me, and whatever. And I imagine that's probably happened a few times, but I really think that is self-sabotage to a T. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that is not the lesson here, my gals. I think this is pure escapism. Pure escapism. Pure escapism, yeah. We go into the book, but we come out, okay? Like let's let's come back to reality. Let's remember the world that we live in. Yeah. Sarah J. Mass is not writing our story, okay? No. If she was, it would be entirely different. Yeah, unfortunately. But I do think, yeah, I think I do think someone has to take, let's say, in the context of Garrett or whatever, said fuckboy, whoever insert name, whoever it is you want to be, I do think they need to take some accountability and really take the initiative to grow because I do think they're making choices that they've actually thought about, and whether that means just sleeping with this girl and that girl and whatever, I do believe it's a choice, and I'm sick of this, like I'm sick of those men being positioned as like emotionally complex and like I've got demons and it's so deep. Sometimes they're just a bad person, you know, and sometimes they just don't care, you know. And they're gonna they're gonna fuck around with your feelings and they don't care about it, yeah. You know, you're excited one day and he's had his way with you, and the next day you're not as exciting. I do think it's just sometimes that black and white. I mean, if we were to take advice from Ali and Hannah's characters in terms of okay, well, hypothetically, how did they sway the fuck boy? Like, what makes them different to the other women in the series, right? And I think there's a commonality between the two of them that I think you could apply to real life dating. Okay, for instance, Ali and Hannah do not stroke their egos, Garrett and Dean's egos, they do not stroke them at all. They see past this facade and brand that they've given themselves that they're like womanizers and every girl wants to sleep with them. They challenge them. True. And I think that's something we could apply to dating, challenging the guys that you're interested in, instead of just kind of being interested in who they are and what that might do to benefit you. So at the start of the series, Garrett has a not a girlfriend, but she seems like a long-term situation ship. And he just says to her, like, you don't know anything about me, like, what's my coffee order? What's my favourite music? What's this? And she couldn't answer any of those things. Yeah. And I think she bought into the idea that he's the captain of the hockey team. Why wouldn't you want to fucking date him? Like, she she didn't see him, and I think that's something that we can apply to actual everyday dating. Do not stroke this guy's ego straight away and do not show interest straight away, you know. Like meet him on a friends basis, challenge him, you know. Yeah, that's something I think we could apply to dating, especially if he's a cocky fucking bastard. Yeah. Um true. What else? They weren't too available to them. Again, that links to challenging them. Um and they both had really had something about them. They didn't dim their interests or their personalities for these boys. They stayed very much true and strong in who they were, and they had boundaries, and I think men respect that. So I think that's what we could apply to dating. Yeah, yeah. Do I think that's gonna get you the fuck boys getting a lot of bitches? No, and do we want him? I'm not sure. No, we like the nice boys because we like the nice boys. I do love a nice boy, yeah. We do. Let's put let's bring the nice boys back into fashion.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

Final one, falling out of love. So Ali's relationship shows how easy it is to stay in something familiar, even when you're emotionally outgrowing it. Yeah. How do you know the difference between comfort and love? I feel like you can answer this. Yeah, I feel like I can. Let me answer this. I think you should answer this. So um, I don't know, it it at times with Allie and God, I can't even remember her the guy's name's name, he just wasn't the He dresses as Ben Affleck in the show. Yeah, he was amazing. When she's J Larry, so I have no idea. I have no idea. Oh, he doesn't say his name. His real name's Riley Davis. Okay. But I don't know what his name is. Anyway, Alan boyfriend and then ex-boyfriend um in the show. They really sort of encapsulated this couple that probably got together in high school. Or like first year of union. Yeah, or like well no, I feel like they knew each other before. Like, yeah, I just feel like it looked like there was like quite a lot of years there, yeah, and they were just clinging on to it. Yeah. But I think actually, maybe Ali's character probably didn't see her boyfriend Vert who he was because he says, like, oh, I just thought you'd grow out of drama because it was a phase, and like your aspiration to be an actress, and I'm like, surely he was always like this, and she's only just suddenly having this epiphany. Um, but I think it can be so easy, especially as a woman, you know, to the thought of being single when you've been in a relationship with someone, yeah, and you have loved them. And I think sometimes that shift from love to comfort is really hard to pinpoint when the tables have sort of turned with with that. And I also think that that sometimes I think with the calibre of dating sometimes can be really scary, especially if you're someone who only dates one man at a time, like Ali did in the beginning, and she wasn't necessarily about like just sleeping around and she's a serial monogamous, she was a serial monogamous, and I think sometimes it's like when the universe gives you one, and like we've said, if you discard it, you're being greedy and you won't find another one. And I think sometimes you spend all that time getting to know someone. The thought of throwing at that in the bin and starting from scratch is really hard to think about. I also think his name's Sean in the series. Sean, Sean. Yeah, I also think that I think it's very prominent that they're kind of coming towards the like the end of their uni experience, they're not they're not freshmen or like in their first year anymore. Ali's starting to think about her future, yeah, and I think sometimes when you date boys in specific environments that are only temporary, like school and uni and whatever, I think you can be caught in a bubble, and then when you start thinking about the future, and oh, I don't actually want the same things that this person wants, or it I was it was kind of okay for me to be agreeable and say, Yeah, I'll move to with you, and yeah, we can move to the town that your your family live in because it's like we're we're here now, and I think Ali's thinking about her future and jobs and stuff like that, and the red flag is he's not unsupportive, but I think he doesn't take her interests seriously, yeah, and I think that scared her, and that was kind of that was strike number one. So I think I think your environment changing and thinking about the future can maybe spark questions about oh, is this person a right now or is this person a long a long term a long-term thing? Yeah, um, what was the question again? When do you when How do you know the difference between like comfort and love? Um when you're making fear-based decisions. Yeah, I was about to say that, yeah. When your rationale is un like it's driven by, oh well what about the unknown? What about things that are uncertain? Oh well he loves me.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Oh, he hasn't ri he hasn't done anything wrong, you know, which links back to what you were saying about oh well the universe gave me one boyfriend, if I dump him, I'm ungrateful. Yeah. I think it links back to that. Yeah, and I also think like I think sometimes with comfortability comes making that other person's life easier. So you're not only leaning into your own comfort of the relationship, but you're also making it comfortable for them. Yeah. That meaning like choosing to go to the uni that your boyfriend wanted to go to, or hanging out with the people that they want to hang out with, and moving to the city because they got the job opportunity and stuff like that. Yeah. I think if you find that you're making decisions for them and not yourself, and if you are making them for yourself and they have objections to that, that also for me is a really like red flag. I think Ali is a great example of do not put your interest and your life goals on the back burner for a man, yeah. Just to maintain a relationship. Agreed, yeah. I think she's a great example of that, and I'm really excited to see how her character is gonna flourish. But I also think I love how um she's sort of found um potentially another monogamous relationship uh with Dean. Is it Dean? Um and she's like at the minute just trying to explore her sexuality and just dating and stuff like that. And I'm just like I kind of find amusement in that because also just like no strings attached and doing whatever is also great, but also defining a relationship can be great. Yeah. Um, and I do think the best things find you when you're not looking. Oh, yeah. And I think that was the best example of that. You'll like you'll find a boyfriend, you'll find a man, you'll find like the next pivotal moment in your life when you least expect it. Oh, bless you. Bless you, double sneeze, double sneeze, bless you. Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. Um, and I'm really fucking excited for the next one. Yeah, apparently they've already started filming it. If you guys haven't watched it, you need to watch it right now. I'm loving all the press and all the interviews. Oh, I've watched everything. All over our socials, and the girlies are absolutely loving it. Yeah. Um, Fourth Wing fans. Apparently, the guy who played Justin could be our Zaydan, which could be really like. I've seen some AI mock-ups of him, and I do think he could be well, he's tall at all, dark and handsome, like you know, that is that is Zaid into a team. I haven't read Fourth Wing because I'm still in the shackles of the Sarah J. Mass universe, so I could not comment. Um is Michael B. Jordan involved? He's producing it. He's producing it. Okay, uh, I have full faith then. Absolutely, the people who made Interstellar are making this. Okay. And Interstellar was amazing. So it won't look like some crappy hallmark Netflix. Because you've got budget behind these fictional, mystical worlds. Because otherwise they can look like shit. They need to look like Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit. Yeah. They need to look Narnia, they need to look that fucking good. Yeah. Um Moody, broody, the lens, the the the the lens and the grading of the camera needs to be like Yeah. It like it it's gotta be 10 10. Wow, Justin's 29 years old. Okay, so he I think he's old enough to play because you don't want him too young. How old's the character in uh they're like in university, basically. Okay, he can play a college. Yeah, it's like they've gone, they've like finished school and they've gone on to like further education. Right. Oh, okay. Um, so they're like young twinnies. Yeah. I actually think maybe he's probably he's he's like a year ab a year above her. Right. So he's probably like 23 and she's like 21 old. Oh, okay. Um, but I could be wrong, I don't know. I'm just making assumptions. Cool. Um but yeah, that was everything. I feel like we'll probably chat about off campus again after we watch Susan T. Yeah. Um hopefully that comes out soon. We've got some more like chick-flick like books being turned into films or series coming this summer, and I cannot wait to sort of jump on the bandango. I know, I know. That's all we want to watch, man. Yeah, because sometimes I can't be asked to read, but I just want to fall into that world. Yeah. Also, one thing we noticed real quick when we were watching the series, we noticed subtle nods to really popular romance films in Chick fils like Twilight, The Notebook, and they were there was too many of them to Friends. They just knew what they were doing. So there was a lot of detail and layers that went into this. Absolutely. Um, and if you haven't watched it, I hope we've sold it to you, but we've also spoiled the fuck out of it. So well, have we? Yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah. Sorry guys if you haven't watched it. Uh but definitely go and watch it. 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