Women Cheat Too

Ep. 34: How to Hold Their Pain Without Collapsing

Judith F Nisenson Episode 34

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Holding your partner’s pain after betrayal can feel overwhelming, especially when shame and guilt are right beneath the surface. In this episode, Judith teaches how to stay present without collapsing into self-hatred or defensiveness. She explains why validation does not mean self-destruction, how to manage your own shame spiral, and what emotional maturity looks like in the middle of trauma repair. This conversation focuses on becoming a steady presence instead of disappearing, fixing, or reacting. If you are learning how to face the impact of your actions without losing yourself, this episode will help you build the emotional capacity to stay grounded in hard moments.

If you’re ready to start your own healing journey, you can learn more about working with Judith Nisenson at WomensWRK by visiting WomensWrk.com.


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Welcome to Women Cheat 2, the podcast where women who've cheated come to ask the hard questions, face the truth, and begin rebuilding from the inside out. Hosted by Judith Nissenson, a certified betrayal trauma coach, this show offers compassion without excuses and accountability without shame.

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Hi, I'm Judith Nissenson, a certified betrayal trauma coach, and this is Women Cheat 2. There's a moment that many women hit in betrayal recovery when you start seeing the full weight of what your actions did to your partner. The panic in their eyes, the sadness in their body, the confusion in their words, and something inside you starts to feel like you're drowning. Not because they're blaming you nonstop or yelling or even shutting down, but because it's real. Their pain, their trauma, their heartbreak. And you're standing right in front of it, and you know you caused it. Some of you have asked me, how do I hold their pain without collapsing under the guilt, the grief, the shame? That's what we're talking about today. Because you will have to hold their pain if there's going to be any real repair. And you'll have to learn how to stay standing while you do it. Let's slow this one down because this one matters. Here's the thing when we cause harm, we have to face the impact. That's what accountability really is. And in betrayal, the impact is deep and wide and messy. Your partner might be in trauma. That trauma might come with tears, with silence, with flashbacks, fear, or rage. The world has been flipped. Their nervous system is screaming that everything is unsafe. And here you are, someone they once trusted, now trying to show up in the wreckage. This is where a lot of women say to me, I can't do anything right. If I show emotion, I'm accused of making it about me. If I don't, I'm told I don't care. What do I do? And the answer is simple, but not easy. You keep showing up. You hold their pain not by fixing it or defending yourself or controlling their healing, but by staying present. You stay present when they cry even if it breaks your heart. You stay present when they ask the same question for the hundredth time because it helps them make sense in their broken world. You stay present when they don't look at you because eye contact feels like too much. You stay present when they rage, when they go quiet, when they spiral. Not because you agree with every reaction, but because you know they're hurting and you want to show up differently now. Here's where most women collapse. They think holding their partner's pain means abandoning themselves completely. But it's not about being a martyr. You can learn to hold both truths. Their pain matters and you still deserve to heal too. You can learn to self-regulate while offering co-regulation. That's part of rebuilding trust, becoming someone who can be leaned on instead of someone they have to recover from. Let's get real here. It's not your job to carry all of it, but it is your job to make space for it. The pain belongs to them, but your job is not to make it worse by shutting it down, running away, minimizing, or blaming. So, what does that look like in practice? It looks like breathing when you want to run. It looks like listening when you want to defend. It looks like saying, You're right. That must have hurt so much instead of, I didn't mean it that way. It looks like being willing to hear things that are hard without turning it back to your shame spiral. Let's talk about that shame spiral, because it's a big reason so many women collapse under their partner's pain. You're not just hearing what they're saying, you're filtering it through the lens of your own self-loathing. You hear, you broke my heart. And it translates inside your head as you're a monster, you'll never be good enough, you're irredeemable. So instead of staying with them, you disappear in your guilt. That's not what they need. They don't need you to drown in your shame. They need you to anchor. And to anchor, you have to deal with your shame elsewhere. With a coach, in your journal, with a therapist, in your own recovery. You need to build an internal strength to hear the pain without internalizing it as confirmation that you're worthless. This is a big shift and it doesn't happen overnight, but it's a core part of becoming someone safe again. Let me say that again. The way you handle your partner's pain will either make you more unsafe or start to rebuild safety. One of the hardest parts of this work is learning to validate without collapsing. Validation doesn't mean you're agreeing with every detail or accusation. It means you're saying, I hear you. Your pain is real. You get to feel what you feel. That's it. You're not saying, yes, I'm a terrible person. You're saying, yes, I see the damage. I care about the damage. I'm here. And let's be honest, it takes maturity to do that. Especially when every part of you wants to say, but I didn't mean to, or it wasn't that bad, or you're being dramatic. All of those are trauma responses you have to manage. They might be valid things to work through later, but not in the heat of your partner's pain. Your job in that moment is presence, not correction. Now, some of you might say, Judith, I feel like I'm being emotionally abused. They say horrible things to me, they lash out, they degrade me. How long do I have to take it? Let's pause here. Boundaries still matter. And if the environment becomes toxic or verbally abusive, you have the right to protect yourself. But protecting yourself doesn't mean avoiding their pain entirely. It means saying, I want to be here with you, but I can't be spoken to like that. And then stepping away if needed, not storming out, not icing them out, but holding firm. This is high-level emotional work. And if you've spent most of your life avoiding hard feelings, performing for love, or staying in denial, this will stretch you in big ways. But it's also where the real healing begins. Because holding pains, yours and theirs, is how intimacy starts to grow again. Not fake intimacy, not forced reconciliation, but the kind of intimacy that says, we can sit in hard places together, we can be honest, we can be safe. Let's also name that some of you are trying to hold pain, but you're doing it with resentment. You're keeping score. You're thinking, I've said I'm sorry a hundred times, I'm doing everything right. Why aren't they better yet? And I get that. It's exhausting. But their pain is not a math equation. It's a wound, and you don't get to control how fast it heals. Your consistency does matter. But it's not about how many apologies you give. It's about whether you're showing up with humility, empathy, and patience. And no, this doesn't mean there's no room for your pain, your guilt, your grief, your own backstory. But again, that work has to happen somewhere else. You don't dump that on your partner in the middle of their breakdown. You don't say, Well, you think you're hurting. Let me tell you how hard this is for me. That's self-centered. That's deflection, and it will crush the repair process. You'll have time to unpack your stuff, but if they're actively bleeding out from betrayal trauma, you don't ask them to bandage you first. Now, what about when they say things that trigger you? What about when their pain is weaponized or feels cruel or taps into your own childhood wounds? This is where you have to grow up emotionally. You have to learn how to pause, how to notice your trigger, how to ground yourself instead of reacting. That's part of being a partner now, not a reactor, not a fixer, not a ghost, a partner. You learn to say, that's hard to hear, but I'm here. You learn to say, I want to understand more. You learn to take breaks when you need them, but you always come back. This is how safety gets rebuilt, brick by brick. And those bricks are moments where you stay present, stay calm, stay open, and stay connected, even when the room is thick with pain. Some days you'll do this well, some days you'll mess it up. But if you keep showing up, keep preparing, keep growing, you'll become someone your partner can begin to trust again. Not because you never messed up, but because you learn to stay with the impact and not run. That's the shift. That's what changes the whole story. So if you're in that place right now, holding their pain and wondering if you'll survive it, know this. You can. You're stronger than you think. You're more capable than you believe. And this work, as hard as it is, is part of what transforms you. Not into a perfect person, but into a present one. Because the truth is, anyone can say sorry, but it takes a different kind of strength to hold someone's pain and not collapse. Now that's the work. So let's take a breath and recap where we've been. When your partner is in pain, your job isn't to fix it. It's to hold it with care. That means staying present, managing your own reactions, validating without collapsing, and making space for their trauma without making it about you. It also means doing your work outside of the relationship to build the emotional capacity to hold what they're carrying. If you're here, you're capable of doing this, and you're not alone in learning how.