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The Dx2 Podcast
Winter Blahs, Solved
We answer a listener’s question on decluttering without guilt, then dive into nine practical ways to ease the winter blahs with light, movement, warmth, nutrition, and planned joy. We keep it real, share personal stories, and frame winter as a season to tend, not conquer.
• winter blues as normal physiology, not failure
• morning light, light therapy, and phone-last habit
• move for mood with walks, strength, rebounding, vibration plates
• build a winter rhythm with earlier nights and lower minimums
• warmth as regulation via baths, sauna, heat pads, cozy layers
• winter nutrition: protein first, warm seasonal meals, magnesium, electrolytes
• schedule tiny joys and protect anticipation
• gentle mental health checks and seeking help when needed
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...Welcome to the D Times 2 podcast, hosted by Sisters Denise and Deborah. We are all about finding balance in the various parts of life. Using the Wheel of Life as our guide, we explore how to keep each spoke rolling smoothly. We discuss health and wellness, education and spirituality, as well as mental and emotional growth. Join us for real conversations, practical tips, and a few laughs as we share stories, insights, and strategies to help you create a life that feels balanced, purposeful, and designed by you. Hi Debra. Hi Denise. How are you? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. How about yourself? I'm doing pretty well, yeah. Good. No main, no main complaints. Oh, yeah. That's always a good thing. Always things going on, but nothing too big. Yes. Very good.
unknown:Yeah.
Debra:So we normally start with some chit-chat back and forth or a funny story or something that happened. Today we're going to start with a question that was sent in to us by a listener. Yes. So this listener said they have a lot of stuff. Too much stuff. Too much stuff. And that they might need someday, and they don't get rid of very much things because they might need it someday. But they want to declutter. Yeah. So their question is, how do they how can they do that? Do you have any suggestions on that? There are a few suggestions that I have and that I have personally utilized in the past. Some of them I could do better with. But the first one is if it's in a bin or a box or in storage and you haven't touched it, the general rule is in a year, I like to say three years. If you haven't touched it in three years, you don't need it. So I agree with that three years, because a year isn't long enough. Some things are once a year, but I think three years is a good rule. So an example in my life is I have some storage totes and some boxes that we packed when we moved from our house in California. And that was five years ago, and they are still packed. You haven't opened you haven't needed what's in there. Well, some of them are books, and I don't have like everything's digital now. Yeah. I love to have a library, but I should just give, donate them. Yeah. Okay. But part of me is I love books so much that I don't want to part with them. But some of them are clothes. I'm not going to ever use those. I mean, they're socks. Like I've already already been replaced, right? I'm never going to use them again. Yeah. So just get rid of it. But I haven't because there's that process of going through. Sometimes that process of going through takes so long and it's kind of daunting that we don't want to do it because we feel like it's going to take so long. So I did start on it. Um I I had high aspirations a little while ago. And I was like, if I can just open a box a day, go through it, decide if I'm keeping it, getting rid of it, whatever. That was more manageable to me because I tend to open everything and spread everything out, and then I'm done. And then I have a mess. And then you have to put it all back and you don't see it for three more years. Right. I I like that idea. One box. You said a box a day. I I I think I personally could handle a box a week because every day might be too much for me. Well, clearly it's been too much for me because I haven't done it. But I thought I could do a box a day. And it didn't work. But I think setting a rhythm for yourself where on this day each week or on this day each month, I go through this room or this section of things or whatever. But then one of the other things that gained a lot of traction a few years ago was the Marie Kondo method, where you literally look or touch each item and think, does this spark joy? And some things just don't spark joy, but I need, I'm gonna keep like my hedge trimmer. I use it, it doesn't spark joy. It doesn't spark joy. It's sitting on the floor of my garage right now because I need to use it for the last of the season. But like I'm gonna keep it, I need it. Yeah. But sometimes you'll have duplicates of things. Speaking of hedge trimmers, we have several of the same shovel. And part of me is you don't get rid of tools. And part of me is some of those are so old they just need to be gotten rid of.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
Debra:So there's different ways to look at it, but really it's do you really need it? When was the last time you used it? And does a neighbor have one you could borrow in that one instance in 10 years when you might need it, that you could just borrow it? Yeah, for sure. I I'm with you on that. So I I actually am in the process of doing some of this decluttering in my house. And I have something that was given to me shortly after we moved into this house 19 years ago that's never been used. And it's just taking up space. And I've had a hard time getting rid of it, but I'm ready. Is that the one what you reached out to me about? Yes. Yeah. And I said, I feel guilty saying no, but I don't have room for it. I don't need it. Yeah. So sometimes it takes a little while. But you know, I I could have gotten rid of it years ago because I know I'm not gonna, I'm not going to use it. Sometimes there's sentimental attachment to things. Yeah. At the same time, like if I died today, would my kids care about that thing? The answer is an absolute no. Right. Nobody's going to care about it. So it's okay if I get rid of it. Well, and that's what I have seen actually with some of my one-on-one clients is some of them are older and one of the spouses has passed away. And they say, now I have to go through all of the crap and get rid of it. And that's what it ends up being a lot of times is just junk that nobody else wants. You're like not gonna use. I do know I used to move frequent frequently, and every time I moved, I would ruthlessly declutter. I would get rid of everything I could so I didn't have to move anything. I didn't have to. Yeah. Or didn't really want to. I haven't moved in five years. And before I moved that time, I didn't do it like I normally do because of time constraints and everything. But I think even just a periodic purge like you're doing can be helpful. Because if you're in a home for 20, 30, 40 years, it just piles up and piles up and you stop seeing it. But it's just stuff. It really is just stuff. You can't take it with you. It doesn't mean anything to anybody else, and it's just taking up space. So if that's the case, get rid of it. Most of the time, if you get rid of it and five years later you need it, you can borrow it from a neighbor. Yep. Or you can go buy another one. Yep. Okay, that's our little discussion. Purging. So hopefully that helped our listener with her questions. And we figure if one person has it, then other people do too. Okay, so today we are talking about winter blahs. Do you ever get that feeling of the winter blah? Yes. I sometimes think of it as the winter blues, but it really is a blah. And it, like I always have said, I am very much affected by weather. I am a blue sky and sunshine girl. It can be cold, but I want blue sky and sunshine. And preferably warmth. That's a bonus, but in the winter, not always possible. Right. And we have so much more, I'm gonna say in most areas, there's so much more darkness, so much less light. Like our days are shorter, our nights are longer. And that takes a toll on my circadian rhythm. Yes, on everybody's circadian rhythm. So it can make you feel just blah or depressed or just want to curl up in a ball and not do anything. Be less productive. For me, that happens mid-February, about every year. I'm done with the cold, I'm done with the gray, and I'm ready for some sunshine. But I know it's not coming for about three more months at least. So I've tried to make some changes in my life that help me get through that. Sometimes I will color my hair so it looks like there's sunshine been in my hair. Put some streaks in there, highlights. I haven't done that for a few years, but that that did help me for a time. So let's talk about some things today that are applicable to that most people can use. One thing to realize about winter bloss or blues is that it doesn't mean it's a problem. There's not something wrong with you. No, there's nothing wrong with you. The the blaws or blues don't equal depression. There are literally changes in our physiology based on the cues we're getting from our environment. Yeah. So it's not that something is is wrong with you. The winter time, uh darkness, cold, they they tend to lead to lower energy, which is normal. Motivation dips, which is normal. And comfort food, like we talk about comfort food, you know, hot soup or something like a warm casserole or something, because it gives us comfort in the winter. That's I think of mashed potatoes and macaroni and cheese. Heavier foods, heavier, yeah. And then like you said, the circadian rhythm gets disrupted. So there are shorter days, less light, and so your rhythm gets disrupted. So it's okay. It is normal. We just need to work, learn to work with it instead of think something's wrong with us. So that's the first one. We have nine. Nine ideas for you. So that's number one. Let's talk about colostrum. It is a hot topic in the world these days. We're gonna talk about Equip Foods Core Colostrum. Each scoop contains three grams of grass-fed, pasture-raised, antibiotic-free colostrum, where most on the market only contain one gram. Colostrum is a nutritional powerhouse that has been shown and proven to enhance immune function, gut health, and recovery with vital nutrients. So, what exactly is it? Colostrum, also known as first milk, is produced immediately following a newborn birth. It is vital nutrition, providing all the nutrients and fluid a newborn needs in their early days. It also applies to all people. We all need that nutrition. Equip foods core colostrum is a type A1 and A2 milk, which is the highest tier milk you can get. Also, while chloricolostrum is a dairy product, it does not contain milk or lactose. So most people with lactose intolerance usually find colostrum very digestible and beneficial to gut health. Now I know you're wondering how you use it. It's so easy. You just need one scoop per day and you can add it into tea or coffee, you can add it to a protein shake or to yogurt, or you can even add it into your favorite baked goods. It's also cost effective. So it's core colostrum is about 51 cents per serving compared to 91 cents per serving or more on for competitors. So if you go to equipfoods.com and use the promo code D times2 or DX2, you'll get a great discount. Number two is that light is medicine, even if you don't feel it. Or if you don't feel like it affects you. Like that's why the sunshine matters to me. It literally fills my battery. And the gray feels like my battery is disconnected. It's drained all the way and disconnected. She has no charger. But morning sunlight, especially within 30 minutes of when you wake up, even if it's only five or 10 minutes, really helps to give you your body that light energy that it needs, even if it's coming through gray clouds, the sunlight. Yes, the gray clouds even make a difference. So there are also light therapy lamps. One of them that I really like is comes from Loombox. It's a red light therapy. That red light specifically recharges your cells. But there are also some that are like a 10,000 luxe just sunlight, daylight light that you can stand in front of while you're getting ready or put by your chair where you drink your morning smoothly or tea or whatever you have to get that five to ten minutes. I like to get 15 minutes. But that light therapy really helps. Also, I'm a big fan of opening the curtains or the blinds as soon as there's sunlight coming through. I did it this morning. It was still like the sun was barely coming out. It's gray outside, but I was letting the sunlight into my house. So I opened my blinds the night before so that when as soon as not in my bedroom, but in the living room and kitchen, all the other rooms except for my bedroom, I open them so that when the light starts coming, like it's coming. Oh, I would never. But I'm up very early and I I don't know. I don't like people to be able to see into my house when I'm Oh yes. You you live in a you have neighbors close by. Yes. I have a field behind my house so I can do that. And I have people who like leave for work at six o'clock in the morning. So they're like people have seen me in less than fully clothed situations just because my blinds were open too early. But the second that light starts popping over the horizon, I open them up. Yeah, it's it really is nice. I have a friend that has sh she gets seasonal affective disorder or sound. Bad. And she started using going to the tanning beds and just doing red light therapy on the tanning bed, and she said it made a huge difference. You told me about that a few years ago, and I I don't think I truly have seasonal affective disorder, but I really, really feel the gray, gray, gloomy days. And so I go sometimes, not a lot, but I will go. But I really like the in-home where you can do just an everyday light exposure.
unknown:Yeah.
Debra:Without it breaking the bank. Yeah. And this is light, like try to see what you can do to get light into your eyes and onto your skin before it's the light from your phone. Yes, for sure. Yeah, that light, yeah. Don't check your phone first thing in the morning. Check the outside light first. Yes. Okay. So number three is move for mood, not for aesthetics. So move to feel better, not necessarily to look better. I like to do both. I like to do both too. But if I can only do one or the other, I'm gonna move for mood. Yeah. So exercise in the winter, just try to reframe it. It's for nervous system regulation. It helps, it does help your mood. That's why we said move for mood. It increases your dopamine and your serotonin. So all of your feel-good neurotransmitters. Yeah. But in in boosting your serotonin, it will help you sleep better. So that's good. And then it uh we're moving for energy creation, not energy, energy depletion. So again, mood, not necessarily to kill it in the gym and spend everything, leave it all on the mat. Yeah, yeah. Although I do like to do that. You don't have to. Like if you're just feeling blah, just move. So some easy movement things in the winter as a 10-minute walk. Now, around here it does snow. And we can I almost killed myself this weekend because there was blue sky and sunshine, and I wanted to go out inside and walk because I haven't been able to. And there was ice in all of the shady parts, and I was not prepared for that because I was focused on the blue sky. Yeah. Just be mindful of where you're walking. You can walk around your house, honestly. You mean inside your house? Inside your house. I've done it. By your windows so that you're getting some light and you're just walking. You can walk on a treadmill, but just move. Just walk. Ten minutes. Easy. So you can do strength training. For me, that is a huge mood payoff. I love to strength train. And the winter for me is a great time to get my summer body ready so I can paddleboard and pickleball and hike and all of those good things. Here's one that not very many people think about, and it's rebounding or jumping on a mini trampoline because you can do that in your house. That really gets things moving. Yeah, your lymphatic system, your blood system, like everything, and it it works all of the cells and tissues in your body, as does a vibration plate. So it's like a whole body vibration. So Deborah and I both have whole body vibration plates in our house. And I don't know about you, but it sure feels good to get on there and rev that up and stand, just stand there. Because it gets your blood flowing and wakes everything up too.
unknown:Yeah.
Debra:Like that. Yeah. I I try to use it in the morning at least for a couple of minutes, even on my most rushed mornings, two or three minutes is plenty. But on the days when I have time, I'll just stand there, I'll stretch on it, and then sometimes I will do some of my strength training on it. And it like I just feel amazing. They're an amazing tool. Yeah. But rebounding the mini trampoline or vibration plates, fantastic tools. And then you talked about stretching on the whole whole body vibration. It feels fantastic. If you don't have one though, you can stretch while you're watching a movie or TV or I did your favorite show. Just the other night, I had my yoga mat on the floor and I was stretching in the evening while I watched a show. Easy. Easy to do, but really, really does help. It does help. Yeah. So you don't need motivation, you just need momentum, little bits every day of movement for mood, not for aesthetics. So what's number four, Deb? Number four is to create a win winter rhythm, not a summer one. And I'm gonna tell you honestly, I'm still working on this because I really like the summer one. No. And I get a little resentful almost to have to switch to a winter one because I just love the summer warm months that much. But one of the things that really helps with a winter rhythm is to deliberately get more sleep. I think of it really as hibernation season. That's why we want the comfort foods, we want warmth, we want more sleep. Like it's hibernate recovery time. So have slower mornings and earlier nights. It's dark early. It's dark at like five o'clock where we are. Yeah, it does. And like I look at my clock thinking, is it midnight? And nope, it's seven o'clock. Yeah. But it's okay. Go to bed early and have fewer expectations on yourself. You're not going to be as productive. Like I said, it's some of that recovery time. It's your winter rhythm so that you have what you need to spend on reserve and on tap for in the summertime. Want to say just give yourself grace and be understanding that you do have to adjust rhythms. I'm talking to myself here too. You do have to adjust your routines seasonally and let go of the shoulds, thinking you should be doing more. My brain goes to what are my absolute minimums? Like if I plan to work out and I want to work out for 45 minutes a day, my minimum is I'm gonna at least stretch for five minutes. If I get that done, I'm good. Everything else is gonna be gravy, or I'm going to at least walk for 10 minutes a day. I don't even set the time of day. I prefer morning, but sometimes that doesn't happen. So let go of the shoulds and then build your winter schedule instead of being like me and being resentful that you can't have a summer schedule all year long. Let's talk about the immune system. 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But it ultimately restores health to areas of your body that are affected by potentially unhealthy eating habits, like during the holidays, and also from overstressing. And it does it by using whole real food ingredients. You can go to optimalhealthsystems.com and use the code D times2, that's DX2, to get a great discount off your order. Okay, number five. Warmth equals emotional regulation. So that's a good one for me because I get a little kind of like you I kind of get irritated. I don't I don't know that I get resentful, but I get irritated with just the cold and the cold. Because it gets cold where we are. The warmth helps me, like being warm. Physical warmth ways you can get that is a hot bath or a hot shower. I do that every morning. I've been soaking in my bath a lot lately just for that cozy comfort. It feels so good. Yeah. So a hot shower or a hot bath, you can get in a sauna, which is fantastic. Sometimes I do that after a workout in the morning, and it's just really relaxing to me. And I'm already hot from working out. Well, my insides are hot, my outsides are cold. It feels just so good. But yeah, I will tell you, that's one of the things that in the summertime just doesn't sound good to me. I don't sauna. I don't want to sit in the hot sauna in the summertime, but in the winter I will sit in it every day. Yeah. So nice. So if you don't have a sauna, you can use a heat pad. So my husband years ago bought me the best anniversary present ever. What was that? It was a heating blanket. So I put the heat like an electric blanket. An electric blanket. Thank you. I would put it in my bed and warm up my bed and then I'd get in, and it was so cozy. I loved it. It really was nice in the winter when I was super cold. So okay. I need to ask because I care about energy in the body. You would warm it up and then turn it off. Yes, I so you wouldn't sleep with that plugged-in energy going through you. No, if I did, I would sweat like 15 crazy off at night or something, you know. So I do that, but I have like a little, it's like a heating pad you would use for your back or something, but it's at my foot spot in the bed. So it's just on my, not my husband's, because he doesn't want it, where my feet go, I turn it on an hour before I go to bed. And when I get in, that's nice and warm, and that makes the rest of me warm. Yeah, that would be nice too. I didn't used to do that in California. It didn't get that cold there. No, I do it all the time now. So another thing, like when it gets cold, people say, Oh, it's sweat-a-weather. Oh, sweater weather. So warm, cozy clothing, nice warm socks and cozy blankets. Like on my couch right now, I have this nice cozy blanket to curl up under. And it just helps. And we're both walking to you in our sweatshirts. With socks on. And I have a blanket wrapped around my feet. Like just get cozy. It helps, it just helps your emotions, it helps your emotional regulation. Yeah. So the last one I have suggestion I have is warm drinks. Oh yes, big fan. So warm bone broth or tea or hot chocolate. Or if you drink coffee in the morning, coffee, not late afternoon. Soups, even. Yeah, white. Something warm. It does, it does help you feel good. It warms you up from the inside out. Our dad likes to do warm water or warm lemon water. That's really good. The solution sometimes isn't therapy, it's just warm socks. Yep. Makes a big difference for me. Okay, so number six is nutrition. Nutrition for winter energy. It's without getting like into all of the diet stigma or diet wars, the bottom line is you need to number one, prioritize your protein. Always, always, always prioritize your protein. That really helps with blood sugar stability. And then don't undereat. In the wintertime, your body needs the fuel and it wants some of those cozier, heartier foods. So don't go overboard, but don't undereat. Don't pack on your winter fluff. Yeah. Just eat enough to be warm. And then warm, comforting meals like the soup or casseroles or like last night we had roasted or not roasted, grilled salmon, roasted asparagus, rice, all of it was warm. But in the summertime, a lot of times we'll do salads as our meal or smoothies as our meal. But right now it's time for warm, comforting meals. That's better for you than cold foods. And then remembering that that fatigue that we get sometimes in the wintertime, magnesium will help and electrolytes will help. They help you year-round with that. But especially when you notice a decline in your energy during those winter blahs. Thought to just have in mind is are you actually tired or are you under fueling? I don't think that's something we think about that much in the winter is eating differently. But there are winter squashes, root vegetables, carrots, potatoes, all those things. Better to eat in the winter than in the summer. That's seasonal eating. It is seasonal eating. Okay. Number seven, plan tiny joy on purpose. So your winter joy needs to be intentionally scheduled. We've talked about that a lot with the Wheel of Life analogy, is being intentional with our lives. So this one we're going to be intentional on joy on a weekly basis. Plan something that you look forward to doing. Do you do that? Oh, oh yes. Oh, you should have seen her face. I deliberate, like I feel like I always need something to look forward to. And sometimes it's a favorite thing to do with Tom during the week or on the weekend. Sometimes it's something just for myself. Sometimes it's both. And then another thing is always like I love to travel. So the other day when we were out of town, I was looking at my phone because I have all of my, I'm gonna say travel passes, which are my hotel reservations in one specific area. And I flipped through them and just knowing that I still had three more already on the books trips for 2026 gave me joy. So just having something to look forward to. I wasn't scheduling them, I wasn't going on them, but the flipping through and looking and knowing why I'm going and what I'm doing brought me joy. Nice, I like that. I have a friend who goes on a on a cruise every February to get away from the winter laws. And it fuels them up for the next couple months. Yeah. Do you? Yes. I like to take a nice long nap on Sundays and I look forward to it all week. It's not a 20-minute quick get it done. It's a nice sleep as long as I want to nap. It really helps me recharge. Tom says those are he asks me, are you gonna just sleep until you wake up? Yes, it's that kind of a nap. Here's here's an idea you could do whether you are a family or by yourself or a couple. Candle-lit dinners. I have a friend who loves candles, and whenever and starting about the week before Thanksgiving, she gets candles out all around her house and lights them every night, and it just brings this nice cozy feeling. Yeah, that works. Some warmth, the light, the coziness. Yep. So you could plan movie nights as a family. When my kids were home, we would do family movie night on Fridays. We'd have pizza and watch a family movie together. You can do puzzles. Puzzles are good winter activities. Yeah, that's a good one. Have to do them all in one sitting. Or find a nice good book to read, cuddle up in your blanket and read for a little bit. Okay, so schedule a small joy this week and make it non-negotiable. Done. That's your debs ready. Done. I will do that. I always say find joy in the journey. Right? So the things that bring you joy are the things you need to deliberately make or in make sure are in there. Yes. Part of your life. And they're different in the winter than they are in the summer. Yes. And it's okay. They are. So number eight is to do a gentle mental mental health check. So sometimes when you are having the winter blaws, you might need some support. Yeah, there might be persistent hopelessness. You might be feeling like you're withdrawing from life, or you might notice that you're sleeping a lot more, not just a little more, but a lot more, and then don't have as much pleasure. That might be something that is more towards the seasonal affective disorder situation, and you might need some actual external help with that. Don't ignore it. Yeah. So let's normalize asking for help without any fear or shame. Yes, there shouldn't be fear or shame with if you have serious problems, get the help you need from whoever you need to help. Yeah. So I told you had we had nine. So here's here's number nine. You can make it through the winter. Try some of these things we've done, we've suggested. And try to remember that winter isn't a season to conquer, it's a season to tend. Tend to yourself, tend to your family, tend to your emotions with love and grace. Not hang on by the by your fingernails to just make it through until spring. No, because that that goes against everything that you and I talk about. Yeah. Right? Planning your life, living your life on purpose. Choose some winter things that will make you happy, indoors or outdoors. I know people who go snowshoeing every Tuesday. They've invited me along and I say, no, thank you. I understand why you are. I don't want to do it. Or go on the mountain and go snow skiing, or whatever your thing may be. I like to cozy up inside and look at the weather from inside. So we live where it's cold. Yeah. I have a daughter that lives in Texas, and some people think it does get cold in Texas, but it absolutely does. Yeah. I've been down there when it's like 40 degrees and humid and it's very cold. So even if you don't live where there's snow, it's going to be cold. If you're used to 80 degree weather and it's now 60 degrees, it's going to be cold. So find some things that you can do. Put on a jacket or coat and find something outside that you can do. Get cozy. I'm going to give a Deb's personal life example of this. Okay. When Tom and I got married, we got married right after Christmas, loaded up the moving truck and moved me from Colorado, where there's 300 days of blue sky and sunshine a year, to California. Sacramento area. So kind of central, not truly northern, but more central. And so we got there right at the new year. And the sun didn't come out for three months. Oh boy. And I would check the weather and it would say it was going to be 60 degrees or 55 degrees. And I'd think, oh, that's great. Because in Colorado, that feels different than in California in the wintertime. So I was freezing and it was gray all the time. And Deb was sad. I was sad. And one day I said to Tom, You're going up into the mountains for work today. Can I just ride with you so I can get above the clouds? And it made me so happy. I rode with him in his work truck and I just looked at the scenery and we got above the clouds, and there was blue sky and sunshine. It was still cold, it was snowy. It was beautiful. But you don't think of even California as being cold. But everywhere has their weather rhythms and their weather patterns, some to more serious degrees than others. But either way, it's a shift and you need to have a plan. Life has seasons, the year has seasons. So plan accordingly and do your best to enjoy the time during that season. It's coming. So we can choose to be miserable or we can choose to be resentful or we can just it's coming. So just roll with it, right? That's our whole our whole motto is just roll with it and roll strong. Yeah. So if you found anything in this episode that was helpful to you, please share it with somebody who well who might find it helpful as well. Find us on social media, like us, follow us, all those good things. We're pretty active on there and like to have um dialogue with our listeners on there. So it's a good place to communicate with us. But also I just wanted to mention that we always have in our show notes at the bottom of each episode, we have free resources. So there's the notes, but there's also links to free downloads that we've created or products that we love that you can get some good discounts on. So be sure to check out the resources that are down there for you. And until next time, keep your wheeling strong. See ya. Bye.