It’s Not You—It’s Your Hospitality
It’s Not You, It’s Your Hospitality is for independent restaurant owners, operators, and leaders who want to build thriving businesses without burning out their teams or losing sight of what hospitality really means.
Hosted by Preston Lee, founder of The 30% Rule, this podcast dives into the systems, leadership strategies, and culture shifts that separate the struggling 90% of restaurants from the top 10% that thrive. With over 20 years in the industry and a decade spent helping major brands grow sales, Preston shares raw stories, proven tools, and hard lessons learned from the front lines.
If you’re tired of high turnover, inconsistent guest experiences, and the endless cycle of training without transformation—this podcast will dive deep into the world of Hospitality and show you how to fix it once and for all.
Because at the end of the day, it’s not you—it’s your hospitality.
It’s Not You—It’s Your Hospitality
How One of America’s Most Profitable Restaurants Built Its Brand on a Shrimp Cocktail
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Most restaurants fail.
The average independent restaurant lasts less than 5 years. Profit margins sit around 3-5%, staff turnover can exceed 75%, and the industry is notorious for destroying even the most passionate owners.
So how did St. Elmo Steak House survive 123 years... and become one of the highest-grossing independent restaurants in America?
Located in Indianapolis, this legendary steakhouse generates over $26.5 million per year from a single location. It survived Prohibition, the Great Depression, the 2008 Financial Crisis, and even the restaurant shutdowns during COVID‑19.
And the craziest part?
It did it without franchising, without private equity, and without opening for lunch.
This podcast breaks down the real systems behind a $70M hospitality empire built by Steve Hughes and Craig Hughes.
You'll discover:
• Why closing lunch service made the restaurant MORE profitable
• The psychology behind calling employees “stewards” instead of staff
• The business strategy that turned a failing tavern into a hospitality powerhouse
• How the famous St. Elmo shrimp cocktail became a viral marketing engine
• Why scarcity beats scale in the restaurant industry
• The leadership philosophy that kept employees for 20–30+ years
This isn’t just a restaurant story.
It’s a masterclass in leadership, systems, culture, and hospitality strategy.
If you're an entrepreneur, restaurant owner, manager, or hospitality professional, the lessons inside this story might completely change how you think about building a business.
Because the truth is:
The steakhouse isn’t the product.
The system is.
The restaurant business isn't just hard, it's a mathematical impossibility. The average lifespan of an independent restaurant is five years. The profit margins hover around 3 to 5%. The staff turnover rate is a staggering 75% annually. You are statistically more likely to survive around a Russian roulette than you are to keep a restaurant open for a decade. The inventory rots if you don't sell it fast enough. The trends change faster than you can print menus. It's an industry designed to kill you. But then there's St. Elmo Steakhouse in Indianapolis. This isn't just a restaurant. It's a glitch in the matrix. It has operated continuously at 127 South Illinois Street since October 1902. That is 123 years of survival. It survived Prohibition, it survived the Great Depression, it survived the 2008 financial crisis, and it survived a global pandemic that wiped out 110,000 of its competitors. And here's the crazy part it isn't just surviving. In 2026, it is the 16th highest grossing independent restaurant in the United States. A single location generating over $26.5 million a year. It out-earns legendary institutions in Manhattan. It destroys giants in Chicago, it makes more money than Peter Luger. And they do it all in Indianapolis, which, with all due respect, is not known for their culinary endeavors. So, how does a father and son duo take a dusty, failing tavern from 1902 and churn it into a $70 million hospitality empire without franchising, without selling out to private equity, and without opening for lunch? The answer is not stakes. The answer is systems. It's training, it's culture. They built a business that operates on three radical philosophies. Scarcity is better than scale. Every employee is a steward. Tradition is an innovation and strategy. Now, to understand the money, you have to understand the dirt. I want to show you how they went from buying a failing tavern and turning it into a $70 million empire independently owned. But let's go back to 1902. In 1902, St. Elmo sits in the wholesale district. This was the Amazon fulfillment center of the Midwest. It was gritty, it was loud, and it's where retailers came to buy goods in bulk. A man named Joe Starr opens a tavern in the Braddon building. He calls it St. Elmo Buffet, named after his patron saint of sailors. Why sailors? Because Joe liked boats. That's the extent of the branding strategy. And guess what? It flopped. The buffet concept didn't work. The workers didn't want a buffet, but Joe was stubborn. He rebranded to St. Elmo's Steakhouse and he leaned into specific clientele of the wholesale district, traveling salesmen. This is a crucial look at the architecture, high-backed booths, dark wood, no music, no windows. Why? Because salesmen need privacy. They needed a place to cut deals where their competitors couldn't see them. St. Elmo's became the boardroom of Indianapolis. The design was an aesthetic choice, it was a commercial tool. Now, let's fast forward to 1947 where Joe Starr sells the place to the Roth brothers, Harry, Sam, and Ike. Eventually, Harry Roth brings in his partner, Izzy Rosen. And this is where the culture of accountability begins. Harry was the front man, charming, wore colorful bow ties because long ties would get dipped in sauce. Izzy was the operator, a former bookie, gruff, cigar in one hand, whiskey in the other. Izzy Rosen didn't care if you liked him. He cared if the floor was clean. He cared if the books were balanced. This dynamic created a culture where excellence was mandatory. They weren't running a charity, they were running a machine. But standards alone don't make millions. You need a hook. In 1946, the Ross invented a single most profitable item in the history of the Midwest, the St. Elmo shrimp cocktail. Originally it was 10 cents for three shrimp. Today it's 1995. But the recipe? Fresh horseradish, cider vinegar, ketchup, that's it. Super simple, super clean. It was violent. It would clear your sinuses, it would make you cry. And here's the branding genius. They never softened it. They turned the pain into a badge of honor. It went viral before the internet ever existed. Competitive eater Joey Chestnut holds a record, 18 pounds of it in one sitting. It became a challenge. But the real genius happened in 1955. The Roth brothers looked at their PL statement and they realized that lunch service was breaking even at best. It burned out the staff and it diluted the prep for dinner. So they did something that 99% of restaurant owners are too scared to do. They canceled lunch, closed for lunch. They voluntarily cut 50% of their revenue hours. Why? Because they understand the economics of scarcity. By closing for lunch, they made dinner an event. They forced demand into smaller windows. This is what drives their $124 check average from today. You aren't grabbing a bite, you are committing to an experience, and they're committing to giving you that experience. And then there's the menu. Till this day, every entree comes with navy bean soup or tomato juice. Is navy bean soup cool? No, it's archaic, but it serves a purpose. It is a system of consistency. It forces a kitchen to execute a hundred-year-old recipe perfectly every single day. It tells the guests we do not change for you, you come here for us. By 1986, the wholesale district is dead. The city is empty, and the Roths are old. At this point, St. Elmo should have become a parking lot. Enter Steve Hughes. Now, pay attention. Steve isn't a romantic chef. He isn't a corporate turnaround artist. He is one of the first Arby's franchisees in the nation. He took Noble Romans Pizza Public on the Nasdaq. He actually fixed steak and shake. This man knew exactly how to scale. He had the playbook to put a St. Elmo's into every mall in America. But he didn't. Why? Because he knew the difference between selling a roast beef sandwich and selling hospitality. He brings in his son, Craig, a dishwasher turn manager. And together they implement a radical new philosophy for their workforce. In most restaurants, you are a server or a cook. You are a laborer. In other words, you are completely replaceable. At Hughes Culinary, every single employee, from dishwasher to GM, is called a steward. This isn't just HR Fluff. It is a psychological reframe. An owner asks what they can do to take the business to the next level. A steward asks how they can protect. By changing the title, they change the philosophy and the psychology. They told the busboy, you aren't just cleaning plates, you're a guardian of a 123-year-old legacy. That dignity is why they have a retention rate for employees of 60 to 70%. That is why you have servers who have worked there for over 20, 30 years. They bought into the mission, but you can't keep stewards employed if you don't grow. So they invented the selling satellite strategy. Instead of franchising St. Elmo's, they built brands around it. For example, they built Harry and Izzy's next door to catch the overflow. They built 1933 Lounge upstairs for the speakeasy crowd. HC Tavern for the suburbs. And yes, they failed. Burger Study was a premium burger concept and it didn't work. So they closed it. They didn't let their ego get in the way. They cut their losses to protect their winners. That is leadership and that is discipline. Now, because their systems were so strong, the brand became a magnet for power. Peyton Manning started eating at St. Elmo's in 1998. He loved the privacy. They built him a secret entrance that turned the wine cellar into his personal bunker. It became the unofficial headquarters of the NFL Combine. Deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars were signed over spicy shrimp cocktail. You can't franchise that kind of exclusivity. But the ultimate test of the steward philosophy came in March of 2020. The governor shuts down all dining rooms. Revenue hits zero. The industry standard, fire everyone, save the cash. Craig Hughes looked at the numbers. He realized that his product wasn't the steak, it was the training locked inside his steward's head. If he fired them, that institutional knowledge would vanish, the systems would break. So he paid them full wages based on their average tips from 2019. For months, it cost millions. It was burning cash. But when the world reopened, St. Elmo didn't have a staffing shortage. They had a wait list. They had proved that the inverse pyramid, putting employees above the guest, is the only way to build a brand that will last over a hundred years. So why did we just spend 20 minutes talking about a steakhouse in Indianapolis? It wasn't to sell you a shrimp cocktail and it wasn't to tell you about Payton Manning. I told you this story because St. Elmo is a Trojan horse. On the outside, it looks like a restaurant, but on the inside is a leadership academy. It's a training facility. It's a masterclass in human systems. Think about it. The consistency, that isn't magic, that is training. You don't get 120 years of perfect soup by hoping for the best. You get it by drilling standards until they are muscle memory. The steward title, that isn't a buzzword. That is a culture. It's the refusal to treat humans like commodities. The inverse pyramid, that isn't charity, that is leadership. It's the understanding that you cannot have a five-star guest experience of hospitality while giving a one-star employee experience. Everyone wants the $70 million, everyone wants a 126-year-old business, but nobody wants to do the boring, unsexy work of building systems to make that possible. St. Elmo didn't just survive because they had the secret sauce. They survived because they treated hospitality as a discipline. They treated training as an investment, and they treated leadership as a responsibility. You don't build a legacy by chasing the next trend. You build it by mastering the basics training, systems, culture, leadership. The steakhouse is just the souvenir, the system is the product.