Ep 24 - Midlife Reinvention: Courage, Self-Trust, and Building a Life That Actually Fits with Jaemi Pierson

What happens when the life you built… no longer feels like it fits?

In this episode of Midlife Audacity, I sit down with Jaemi Pierson — founder of Her Empowered Mind and certified growth mindset coach — for a powerful conversation about what it really takes to reinvent yourself in midlife.

We talk about leaving behind what’s “safe,” rebuilding self-trust, and why so many women stay stuck in lives that look good on paper… but feel completely disconnected.

This isn’t surface-level mindset talk.
 This is about courage. Identity. And choosing yourself.

Inside this episode, we explore:

•  Why your comfort zone is actually keeping you stuck 
•  The truth about courage and why it comes before confidence 
•  How to stop waiting for clarity and start creating it 
•  Breaking free from comparison and owning your unique path 
•  Redefining success in midlife on your terms 

If you’ve been feeling that quiet voice saying “there has to be more than this…” — this conversation will hit.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey, hey, and welcome back to Midlife Audacity. I'm your host, Celeste Dona, teacher, writer, speaker, and guide for women who are ready to rise into their next chapter boldly, soulfully, and unapologetically. Today's guest is Jamie Pearson. She is the founder of Her Empowered Mind. Jamie is a certified growth mindset coach who works with female founders transforming how they think, lead, and scale their businesses. And we're gonna get into all of that in this episode. Through her signature CEO Mindset Mastery Program, Jamie guides her clients through a powerful journey of identity work, mindset transformation, and high performance habits. So they can build businesses that reflect not just their ambitions, but their values and legacy. So welcome to the show, Jamie.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

The last it is just an absolute joy to be here with you today. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

I can't wait to get into all of what you're up to. We've been following each other on social media, I think for like the last two years. And there's just been so much that's happened over the course of those two years. But I thought it would be really fun to get to know you a little bit by doing a little rapid fire. I thought of this in the shower this morning, and I was like, you know what? Let's like just introduce you in a fun way. So you have the bio, you have all of the all of the resume stuff, but I think it's fun to just people for people to get to know each other like in an authentic way. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Hit me with it. What you got?

SPEAKER_01 1:54

All right. So let's start. Let's start. Beach house or lake house. Oh, beach house. Yeah, okay, good. Me too. Cat or dog? Cats or dogs.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Dog, but I have a cat. Dogs, but I have a cat. That's so funny because I would have said cat. Yes, of course. Yeah. Um, I have yet to have a partner who is on the same um wavelength with dogs. I'm I'm fortunate to have a cat. I'd have three dogs if I could.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Oh my God. Okay. I love that. We have both in this house. We have both in this house. And it was my husband who convinced me to go for it. And my kids were definitely in the background, uh, you know, getting that going. And uh now that we've lived with pets for quite a while, I can't really imagine our house without them.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

So 100% agree. I need those little wet nose noses around.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

Yeah, so cute. All right. Favorite, favorite color. Blue. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Last book you read. God, it's bad. Um, it's not a great book. It what is it? Let me think about it. I, oh gosh, I'm gonna have to get back to you on it. It's not even sitting beside me. It was a book that my coach recommended, and I remember writing him, going, seriously, this is torture. This is torture. It was a book on um really deep, just uh psychological being, like how we're wired from the inside out. And it was a very dry read, so dry that I can't remember the title of it. I'm sorry. No, that's totally cool.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Actually, one of the books that I read, it was a while ago, but I remember it was recommended also by a coach. It was so dense, so amazingly good, but really dense. And I had to actually listen on audio and read the hard copy. Like, so I would listen to audio in the car and then I would read the hard copy like when I got home at night to like reinforce what I was learning because it was so much information, and I wasn't into like neuroscience then at all. So it was like it was a difficult read for me.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Yeah, I think Jo Joe Dispenza's How to Break the Habit of Being Yourself was that one. That was a book. Okay. I was like, when you're talking about, I was like, there's a book that sounds like that, my experience, and it was How to Break the Habit of Being Yourself by Joe Dispenza. And listening to it and reading it, that was a six-month book for me, and I am still working on implementation. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

So it's funny that we were on the same page with that, with that kind of thing. Um all right. How about this is the last one? Last impulsive buy. A trip to Italy. Oh, me too. A trip to Italy. That is so funny. Yes. Okay, good. So okay, this is this is just serendipity. This is always how it goes in my life. Um, it is not surprising that almost every answer that you had was absolutely in sync, aligned, and totally connected to what I would have answered, you know, definitely on the spot. So that brings me to getting started with um our conversation. So we met about two years ago, and I had reached out to you via DM on Instagram. We were both like getting immersed in some in some marketing courses, and I was at the nail salon, I reached out to you on a DM, you left me a voice message back. I could tell instantaneously that there was a connection. I just felt really comfortable. There was like this softness about you, but there was this authenticity about you. I didn't feel like I was being sold or pressured. And it was from that moment that you and I have sort of built this virtual relationship because you're over on the West Coast, I'm over on the East Coast. Um, and a lot has changed within those two years. But I felt that connection and I have seen you sort of go in this amazing direction. And I'd love for you to share what life was like for you probably two years ago. Like, let's backtrack. And at that time you were working corporate. And where are you now? And what are you, what are you doing now with these amazing programs and all of the the work that you're doing with women and empowering women, which is what I am so fascinated by and love so much.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Yeah. Um let me unpack that a little bit. When we met, it was an energy connection because a good energy matches good energy and good people can spot good people a mile away. And I just so appreciated having that opportunity two years ago to make a virtual friend on the internet on a crazy app where I don't always enjoy all my time on social media, but meeting people like you is a highlight. So I just want to say how blessed I am that we met and we still connect today. Two years ago was 24 months of very courageous, difficult decisions, and doing things that I didn't know if I wanted to do, I didn't know if I could do, and here we are two years later, and I could not be more happy with where courage has taken me. I was in a corporate job that I had been in for 21 years at that time, and the job was amazing in so many ways, and it was eating me alive in so many ways, and I think that I at that point I was third well, it was like in my mid-40s, and I had come out of a really tough divorce, and I was just untethered, and I just knew that spending the next 10 years until retirement in corporate was not what I really was called to do, but I was terrified to leave it because it was all I knew. So I started a side business and I started to market it on Instagram, and within 12 months, I made the decision to leave my corporate job and go all in on a coaching practice that I had started on Instagram, which still sounds crazy. The words coming out of my mouth still sound crazy today. And so, fast forward two years, I'm working with female founders and removing the mental blocks and barriers that keep them playing small, whether it's imposter syndrome, whether it's limiting beliefs, whether it is perfectionism, procrastination, whatever those mental blocks or barriers are that are preventing them from growing and scaling their business. I like to say that I thrive doing the inner work with a woman who will create the external results that she's looking for. And all of that happened in two years, and it feels like those two years went on fast forward for me. Um, but I just look around with enormous gratitude for the work I do, the women I work with, and you know, even for the connection I have with you.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

I love that. I think that that's so powerful, and I think so many women are in positions where it's comfortable and they feel safe, and it's really scary for them to step away from that because it's maybe all that they've known, or maybe they feel even guilty because they worked so hard to get a degree, and they spent all of this time and energy basically climbing the ladder or um wrapped up in their definition of success, that now to step back and and reanalyze like what success means to them is a scary place to go. And so I find that a lot of women will stop themselves from even exploring opportunities or experiences or or meeting new people or actually like taking that other untraveled road for fear that it's not going to match up with their old programming of what success is. Um, and so can you talk a little bit about that? Because I know you do a lot of work with like redefining what success might be.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Yeah, I think there, I don't know if I want to call it a reawakening or a reinvention. Sometime if you're a woman and you have hit 40 or you're leading up to your 40s, you get a calling to reprioritize what brings you joy in life. And if you sit with it long enough, you will realize that there really is no such thing as security. There really is no such thing as um having to do the same thing over and over again just because the world expects you to, everyone around you expects you to, and you start to feel very uncomfortable in your comfort zone. And when you start to feel uncomfortable in your comfort zone, you have this little voice that will whisper to you that, like, I was meant for more. I am made for more. And if you listen to that voice, it will take you in the most incredible direction, but it will require an unusual amount of courage. And if you don't listen to that voice, it will start to eat you alive. Because you can push it down and you can snuff it out for a while, but it will continue to come back. And I think what I have found is if you get very clear on what you value, yes, that is the place to start. What are my values? Like, what does time freedom mean to you? What does peace of mind mean to you? What does success mean to you? Because my definition of success, it is nothing like it was in my 20s, let alone my 30s. Success to me is peace of mind and presence. And yes, it's wealth, but I look at wealth a whole lot differently now. I look at prosperity a whole lot differently now. And I think when you redefine what brings you joy, you know, post-40, you will probably find that how you're spending the bulk of your time is not bringing you joy. And then you're at the crossroad, like you said, it's like the road that you've always traveled or the path that you haven't before. And to take the path that is unknown to you is terrifying. We could call it scary, it's actually terrifying. Betting on yourself is the scariest thing you will ever do, especially when everyone else around you thinks it's the craziest time of life to do it. Right. But I just, yeah, if you sit down and you say, What do I value and how do I define success for me today? You will start to um, you will start to be called to do something different because we are in charge of our own joy. Yeah, 100%. Once you once you accept that, like, okay, if I'm not happy in my comfort zone, it's gonna require courage, but I am in charge of my own joy. I'm not a passenger in this thing called life, like I am the driver. Um, and the last two years, if it's taught me anything, it's that courage is always rewarded.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Yes. And I saw you actually post that the other day, and I and I loved it. And and one of the things that I often find myself saying, too, is courage comes before confidence. Confidence follows. Confidence follows courage. So it's that first step, it's that it's that scary, terrifying moment where you become so aware that life as is is not serving you the way it may have served you in the past. And it's that first blink of awareness of saying, oh, wait, I I I'm meant for more. There's something here that I'm not nourishing. How is that possible? How am I living this life and I'm not really nourishing the things that matter to me most? And right? And life comes at us. We know life comes at us, and we get busy and we get distracted. And a lot of those things, while they may have served a purpose at one point or another in our life, they've sort of distracted us also from maybe what we really want to be doing or what brings us the most joy, what really fills our cup the most. And in that whole process, we get lost.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Uh autopilot. Autopilot. Autopilot, especially, you know, women with families who have raised babies into children, into, you know, young adults that are going off to college. There's a moment where you go off autopilot and you look around, you're like, I don't even know what fills my cup anymore because I've been filling everyone else's for the last 18 to 20 years. Um, women in corporate careers, autopilot. And I'm painting with a very broad brush. It's not everyone, right? But most of us, this is what I went to school to do. I've spent my decade after decade climbing, you know, new titles, new promotions, new responsibility, autopilot. And when you have that moment of awareness that what you're doing is not bringing you joy and it's not as fulfilling as it used to be, that's a very scary realization to have.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

And it was funny, I was at a um, I was at a conference actually, and the speaker had, you know, these circles, and he was like, So here's your comfort zone, and here's the uncomfortable zone, and then here's the unknown zone. Yeah. And it's moving out of those zones. And the thing that I think is really interesting is that your comfortable zone is really not so comfortable. Correct. Right? It's really not all that comfortable, but we we go to work to make it feel that way. But you know what? Not doing what you love to do is not comfortable. It's it's actually like killing you slowly.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

And it's slow death from the inside. It's really interesting because our brains are wired for survival, not for success. They're not wired for joy, they're not wired for fulfillment, they're wired to survive. And inside of your comfort zone, that's exactly what you're doing. You know, but to thrive will require you to step outside of your comfort zone. To thrive will require you to step into the unknown. And I, you know, the way I look about it is the healthiest way to do this is when I think about it. You need to stretch yourself, not stress yourself. There's a difference between stretching and stressing. If you're not stretching, then you're not growing, you're not giving yourself an opportunity to thrive. Humans weren't born to just survive. We want growth, we want connection, we want aliveness, and you'll get to a point in your comfort zone where you're not getting that anymore. And that's when it becomes very uncomfortable. And then you've got to start to stretch.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Yeah. And the first time you go to do it, just like a physical stretch on your body, it's tight, right? It feels really tight, it feels restricted, and you're like, I'm not sure I'm ever gonna be able to get my hands to touch my toes. Right. Right? So you build in like some supports, you raise your knees a little bit, you give yourself a little bit of that uh that leverage that you have to have in order to start. And then once you start and you start to do that a little bit more every day, it's in those micro moves that we start to build the confidence. But it starts with the first step.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

It's so interesting because when you look at building competence, uh confidence, confidence comes from competence. And when you take those micro steps every day, you're becoming more competent, which naturally will breed confidence. And I look at it from a capacity building standpoint where you go, you don't have to be great at anything to start. But when you start, you will become great at it because every day you stretch a little, you build capacity to stretch a little bit farther, a little bit farther. You're building more competence, your confidence is growing. And before you know it, you look behind you and you're like, how did that happen? And it happened with one small step towards your joy, towards thriving, towards stretching every single day. I love your analogy. Like give your set yourself up for success. Like give yourself the props, give yourself the ability to win one day at a time.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Yes, yes, I love that. And speaking of, I remember two years ago when you were on social and it was it was a new world. It was like this feels really scary. And now anybody who comes to your page, Jamie, I mean, that you have curated the most beautiful, loving, empowering social media page, one of the best out there. And so it's it's no wonder that your account has grown in leaps and bounds. I remember when we first met, you had like 10,000 followers. I know it even seems weird like to say like I have followers, because I don't even love the whole language around it because it doesn't like resonate with me. But the fact that that's what you were, you know, that you had, and now it's like, I don't know, 160,000 followers, and it doesn't surprise me in the least. But I don't think that that was easy in the beginning. That took that took a whole lot of courage.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

It was painful to be completely first. I want to say thank you. Thank you for the kind compliment. It means more to me than you can imagine for another woman to say, when I come to your page, I feel empowered. I that just it brought tears to my eyes. When I started, Celeste, I was that woman dancing on camera, like pointing at things in the air. Like I literally, it was painful. I would watch it. I um if cringe had a deaf one, I was just gonna say, if it was like if it had a picture in a dictionary, I would, it would be my face. And it was so hard and so painful. I didn't know what I was doing. And all I knew that I was going to do was show up every single day. And I committed to showing up every single day for a year. And I said, in 365 days of trying this, then I will know is this for me or is it not for me? And I think a lot of people quit too soon.

unknown 21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Because it's like, I'm gonna try something for a week, I'm gonna try it for a month. And for me, I was like, give it a year, give yourself an opportunity to get good at it before you say it's not for you. And right around six, seven months in, I started to um hit my stride. Much like you, I don't resonate with the word followers. And so, what I decided to build was a movement, and I was like, it is a Movement for women who have that little voice that said, like, I was made for more, a movement of empowerment, a movement of peace, of joy, of um accepting that you know, we all have mental blocks and barriers and limitations, but we're not limited by them. There are tools, there are resources, there's neuroplasticity, we can change our minds, we can actually change our brains. And I was like, that's the movement that I want to build. And so that was a very different way for me to create content and to connect with people. And so I don't look at it as followers, I look at it as I call it my mind-rich community. And it's 98% women and a few really cool dudes that hang out with me in there. Yeah. And it is now a joy to create that space and this little tiny corner of the internet that will bring your inner world calm when you spend a bit of time with me. So yeah, it was ugly when I started. I know. Do you ever go back down all the way to the beginning? They're they're archived, and I can go. So I did this a few months ago, and it was so painful. I was like, I can't, it was so hard to watch it. And I was doing it for a client to say, just to give her a before and after. Like, this is how it's this is what it looks like now. It was painful, and yet there was so much joy in it to go, I didn't quit. I quite honestly was the worst content creator I'd ever met, and I didn't quit. And then look at like it's the competence that you build by doing hard things that brings you the confidence that we all want to have. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

And do you find that when you work with clients that they often, you know, compare themselves to the after product of somebody else? So they're seeing the iceberg above the water. But meanwhile, we know, and I love that visual of like, there's the peak, and that's what you see. And you're comparing yourself, the beginner, to this person who has put in, you know, 10,000 plus hours perfecting the craft or whatever the skill is. And on meanwhile, underneath the ocean, there's all of this work, and it wasn't pretty. It wasn't pretty. It's like our cringe worthy content at the very beginning. It's ugly.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

You know, it's um one of the most paralyzing um traps for women is the comparison trap. It is looking at someone else's chapter 11 and comparing your chapter one or two to their chapter 11. To be human is to compare. We are wired to compare. And so then it's looking at another woman's body of work as evidence of what is available and possible for you. It's inspiration, it is proof of what you can also build rather than evidence of your inadequacies. And I would tell you, it doesn't matter if I'm working with a woman who has scaled a multi-eight-figure business or a woman who is just working towards her first, you know, um, six figures. It's comparing your journey to someone else's that will do more harm than you can even imagine. Um, and everyone suffers from it. Every the most successful women I have worked with who are making tens of millions of dollars a year will look around and say, but I don't look like that founder, or I don't have the social media presence as her, or her page, her, her body of work, her um her portfolio is so much more beautiful and eloquent. And that comparison syndrome will paralyze your success and your growth.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Yeah. So what's the number one tool that you use to help women to I guess navigate those waters because they're going to be a reality? Yeah. So what can we do to help ourselves to move? Like, I think it's important to recognize that that's happening. And then how do you help women to move beyond that?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

I think it's the awareness, like you said, is so powerful because once you're aware of it, you can note, okay, what I'm doing is I'm spiraling in comparison syndrome. And what I need to do is shift my focus, my eyes back into my lane. What does my lane look like? And I think one of the biggest traps is I don't think I can create something the way she has created something. And so some of that is a limiting belief. So you can tackle that limiting belief and give yourself a new supporting belief, supportive belief. But the answer usually is your success is not supposed to look like anyone else's. Success will leave clues, but there's no such thing as a blueprint that you can lift off another woman's business shift and drop it onto yours and recreate her success. Yours should look different from anyone else's. And if I can give a client that belief that your success should not look like hers, she comes back into a more of an empowered state. And then it's what do you value? How, what, what are you building your business on? What are your values? Because the the competition's values aren't the same. Let's build on your values, let's focus, like put your eyes back in your lane, and let's give other people inspiration on what it could look like for them. Like, let's become the woman who leads with authority rather than insecurity. Let's become the woman who's so focused on what she's building and who she's building it for and the impact she's making in the world that everything else around her is just noise. It's really just redirecting her eyes back into her lane, into her vision, into her impact, and saying, let's build it the only way that you can build it. Right. Like let's put your thumbprint on it and make it your own. And a lot of times, coaching is just reminding women of what they already know, but redirecting energy and redirecting focus one week at a time. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yes. And it's not about handing you the answers, handing you the playbook, like you said, the blueprint. It's it's almost just reflecting back to your client what their greatest assets are, and reminding them of their values, which they have, and then saying, how do we package that?

SPEAKER_00 28:59

So it's it's you. That's it. Like you are the thumbprint that no one else has. How does what does that look like online? What does that presence look like? Because if you take a look around, I don't know what happens on other platforms, but on Instagram specifically, I don't see other pages that look like mine. And that used to really worry me. I used to think, can I really scale and grow a coaching practice if my page doesn't look like 99% of the other coaches out there? And the answer is yes. And I have to sit in that discomfort long enough to create the answer to be yes. But every woman's blueprint and thumbprint is so uniquely theirs. It's leaning into that and saying, no, of course, you don't look like anyone else there. That is your super power. So what does success look like for you? Let's create that.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Let's create that. I love that. And is that a majority of the work that you do inside of the CEO mindset mastery program?

SPEAKER_00 30:05

When I work with women, I work with them five months at a time, and it's a very personalized program. So we will go through identity work because I firmly believe the woman who got you to where you are today will not be the same woman who takes you to where you want to go. We do identity work and we look at the one or two limiting beliefs, the one or two, the big ones, the sticky ones, and we start to rewire those beliefs into more supportive beliefs. And then we look at her challenges in a very personalized way and go, what is keeping you stuck? What is slowing you down? And I create a personalized program for that woman. Every woman I work with gets identity work, every woman I work with gets subconscious rewiring of limiting beliefs, and every woman I work with gets legacy planning because what you build is bigger than yourself. Yes. What do you want your legacy to be? And let's put every decision through that filter so you're not just building and scaling a business, but you are loving being in the business, leading the business, being a part of it. So that's what it kind of looks like and feels like when you work with me.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

Yeah, I think that that's amazing. And I think so many women benefit from that work, especially the identity work, because really it starts there. It's the awareness of of how you view yourself, right? And then if I want something different, then I have to do something different. And then what's that going to look like? Right. And then how do I get from A to B? And what does B even what how am I defining B to begin with? Right. Like we sometimes say, like, oh, I want this, you know, new life or I want this end result. Well, are you crystal clear on what that is? I think a lot of women have these desires, but they don't have a lot of clarity around those desires.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

It's such a good point because this keeps a lot of women stuck. The belief that we need to be 100% clear before we move. Talk about that, yes. Yeah. And what actually happens is movement and action will create clarity. Um, I'll never forget this is one of the greatest gifts my therapist ever gave me. I was stuck, I was paralyzed with fear, and I kept saying to my therapist, what if I make the wrong move? What if I do something and it's not in the right direction? And he said, Jamie, if you're standing still, you have no momentum. And we can't course correct something that's not in motion. I need you to get in motion, and then we can course correct in any direction. And it never occurred to me that you can't actually make the wrong move. You can make a move, and then you will have more clarity. Is that taking me closer or farther from where I want to be? And then you can course correct. Movement and action will give you the clarity that you are begging for. You've got to do it wrong. You've got to make mistakes. You and I love like the belief that you fail forward through life. That movement and that failure and those mistakes bring clarity, and you get one step closer every single day to where you're where you want to be, where you're meant to be. But you cannot course correct something that is not in motion, and that's where the clarity comes from.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

I love that. That's so true. I mean, think of your GPS in your car. It can course correct the mistake you made if you're stuck in a parking lot.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

That's it. And all it says to you is recalculating. Yeah. It never says, hey, dummy, that was the worst decision. You'll never get to where you're going. I can't believe you turn left and not right. It just says recalculating. Exactly. That is life. That I love the GPS analogy. That is life.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

That is life. So, in doing all of this, what would you say like your number one tools are for your own personal uh growth and peace? Like, I know for myself what I do every day that are like non-negotiables to keep myself centered, to keep myself aligned with the values that I know are my guideposts. And for me personally, it's about a deep connection with God and having Him as a guidepost for myself as well. Um, that's one of the ways that I have moved into soulful living. And it's been a very big transition in my life, but a very valuable and almost beautiful transition in my life. So, what do you do personally to keep yourself grounded and centered and able to work with clients and not let social media comments take you out of the game and keep yourself in the flow?

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Yeah, I love this question. I also love the phrase soulful living. I wrote it down. That's so powerful. My daily non-negotiable is meditation. And specifically, I do guided meditation. I have a very, very loud mind. And it may sound like an excuse why I don't do silent meditation, but I get a lot more out of guided meditation, especially meditations that are designed to rewire your brain. So a 17 to 22 minute guided meditation every day is my non-negotiable. I love to start my day with it. If I don't, that's fine too. I will work it into my day. That is my um, that's my non-negotiable. I really have um, I have a passion for triggers, doorway triggers. And I have a little note here that every time I walk into my office and I sit down, I say I enter this room a happy woman, ready to serve. And I say that every single time I sit down at my desk because it just reframes my intention for whoever I'm speaking to and whatever we're speaking about. And then I ask myself, who needs my A game today? So when I sat down at my desk this morning, I walk through the door and it's coded in my mind. I enter this room, a happy woman, ready to serve. I sit down and I look at my note, who needs my a game? And I was like, Celeste and her audience. And these are the things that I cling to because they're so powerful. The last thing that I've been working really, really hard on is not chasing um shiny objects. I call it the shiny object syndrome. Yes. And it's in the online world, you will get fed ideas and um opportunities and all of these things. It's like that's a shiny object, Jamie. Your impact for the next three months, 12 months, whatever it is, is to serve women in this one way. And that has um helped me a lot. Just not chase every random thing out there on the internet, but just focus on pouring your time and your love and your energy and your soul into who you're meant to be serving for this season of life. Those are kind of my three non-negotiables: the meditation, the doorway triggers, and then stop chasing shiny objects.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

I love those. Those are so great. Uh, for me, it's mind, body, soul. So that's like my cornerstone of every day. Most mornings. Can I say every single morning? No, but most mornings I do start with meditation. Yeah. I move my body in some way, shape, or form. I'm I'm usually at the gym five days a week. Saturdays and Sundays, my movement might look a little different. It might just be stretching, it might just be getting up and like walking around and going outside. So it looks differently on different days. But movement, meditation, I shift between guided and silent. Yeah. So I I started with guided. I have a very noisy mind myself. So uh guided was the way the entry point for me. And it started with five minutes because I literally don't think I could have stood silent for any more, like any any more time.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

Yeah, it's training your mind. You are such an inspiration for women um of our age to stay active and like to lean into mind, body, and soul because it is it is all of it. But for as long as I've known you, I have seen you in the gym. Yeah. And I look at that and I'm like, oh, like an inspiration. So thank you for being that for the rest of us.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

Oh, thank you. How sweet. Yeah, it just has been a part of my lifestyle for so long. And I just am a believer in healthy living. And um, I was in the health and wellness space for 10 years aside from my classroom teaching, um, which really like honed that passion for me even more. And now I've kind of just come full circle with the whole mind, body, soul. And I too have a post-it in mind that I come into my workspace. Read it to me. And mine says, I am soul guided by limitless creativity, courage, and flow. Okay, that is beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

So look at look at this, look at us. Show, like sharing post-it notes. It is more powerful than I think a lot of people give it credit. Um, um, the intentions, setting intentions for your space, setting intentions when you sit down. Um and I believe we are creators. We are creators of our joy, we're creators of our life, we're creators of our success. That's an incredibly powerful quote that you read to yourself every single day. Your mind locks it in. It's like that's how you become the woman who gets the results that you're looking for.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

Yes, 100%. I agree. And that came through a lot of coaching, that came through a lot of soul searching, that came through quiet meditation, that came with having other women or men, I've worked with men coaches as well, reflect back to me my true essence when I did not have enough belief in myself. I was I I wanted other people to reinforce that. I needed other women and other men to say, let's reflect back all these amazing gifts of you.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

It's really interesting. So I have never, since I was young child in gymnastics through Division I, like collegiate sports, I've never, ever, ever not had a coach in my life. And I'm not without one now. I mean, the very first thing I did when I left my um my 22-year corporate career was get a coach. I don't believe we're meant to go it alone. And there are days where my self-belief is low, where my self-doubt is high, where without, like I work with a guy right now named Jude Friedman. He's incredible. Every, like every two weeks, we sit down together and he pulls me back in back on course. We do a lot of he's a mental performance coach. Like I'm a mindset coach and I have a mental performance coach. I just don't believe we're meant to go it alone. I love that there's just some days you're like, I don't have a lot of belief in what I'm doing right now. And a really good coach will go, no problem, you can borrow mine. Yeah. Because I don't imagine a world that you won't build exactly what you want to build. That's what a coach can do for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

And I too have always had a coach. I was always in sports. My dad was a coach, so I've lived in that world. So for me, working with coaches was was nothing new. And now doing this and coaching women, it just seems like such an easy flow step for me, you know. Um, and I've and I know the power of coaching. I know the power that it's had in my life, and I know the power that it has in others. So where can people find you? Where can people like coach with you, Jamie?

SPEAKER_00 42:55

So the only place you can find me is on Instagram. And it's just jamie.pearson. That's the only platform I spend time on. I market my business on. I my DMs are literally like the the entry point to chatting with me. And like you said, Celeste, someone will send me a DM, they get a voice note back. Yes. And I think a lot of people are like, well, that was wild. That was weird. Like, I am the most human person you will ever meet in my DMs. It's like you send me a note and you say I'm interested in what you do and how to work with you, you'll be in an instant conversation with me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:30

And that I'm telling you, check out Jamie on Instagram. You will not be disappointed with her page. And if you do, message her. She will get back to you with that amazing voice note, just pouring in all of this love and and beautifulness. Uh, you will not be disappointed. So, Jamie, thank you so much for being on today. I just loved our conversation so much, and I'm so happy that we found. Each other, even across, even across the world here. Um, it's just been so great.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

I the gratitude is immeasurable. And I just want to applaud you for your courage and your energy and your desire. The impact you're making, some of it visible, some of it invisible to you. I know this for sure is so important. So just keep doing the work you're doing. It is needed and you're making a difference.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Oh, you're the sweetest. Thank you so much. All right. Thanks. I hope you enjoyed listening to my conversation with Jamie as much as I did having the conversation. Jamie is one of those gem humans, and absolutely go and check out her page on Instagram. I will put it in the show notes below. Here are the five takeaways from today's episode. Number one, your comfort zone isn't actually comfortable. It's survival mode. Staying there long term creates disconnection, not fulfillment. Number two, courage comes before confidence, always. You don't wait to feel ready. You move first, and confidence builds through action and competence. Number three, clarity comes from movement, not thinking. You can't course correct a life that isn't in motion. Action creates direction. Number four, comparison is one of the biggest blocks for women. Comparing your beginning to someone else's middle or end will keep you stuck. Your path is supposed to look different. And number five, midlife is a redefinition of success. What once mattered, titles, security, external validation, often shifts into peace, freedom, presence, and alignment. If this conversation hits something in you, if you're sitting there thinking, I know things need to change, but I don't actually follow through, this is exactly why I created book study seminars. It's not about reading more books, it's actually about living what you're learning. I see so many women reading all the right books, highlighting, listening to the podcasts, but life never seems to really change. I invite you in to book study seminars. Doors are open right now for May, and we're going to be diving into The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks, which is all about expanding beyond the version of you that keeps you playing small. We talked in this episode about identity work. This is one of the ways that you can get started. So if you're ready to stop consuming and actually shift, then come join us and sit in the room. And how can you start doing things in your daily life that will move the needle toward the life that you want to eventually live? I will leave all the information in the show notes below. Until next time, bye bye.