Ask A Therapist
A place for insight, reflection, and a little humor along the way.
Ask A Therapist
Father's Day Disappointment (Ep. 27)
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Father’s Day is supposed to feel like appreciation—but what happens when it feels more like an afterthought?
In this episode, Kenzie & Carli respond to a listener letter from a dad who feels unsure about how to address his quiet disappointment around Father's Day. He consistently shows up in big ways for Mother’s Day, but finds himself feeling overlooked when his own day rolls around. Now he’s wondering: should he say something, or just accept it?
The conversation digs into the emotional gap between what we assume our families know we want—and what we actually say out loud. They explore the identity of the “low-maintenance dad,” the discomfort of asking for recognition, and why wanting to feel celebrated isn’t the same as being “needy” or keeping score.
At its core, this episode is about something simple but often hard to say: I want to feel seen in my own family.
Have a question? Email us at info@askatherapistpod.com, use the link below, or DM us on IG or TikTok at @askatherapist_pod
Find Kenzie at therapy-with-kenzie.com or @therapywithkenzie
Find Carli at carlikingtherapy.com or @carlikinglmft
Hello and welcome. I'm Kenzie. And I'm Carly. And this is Ask a Therapist.
SPEAKER_01Each week we explore life's most relatable questions, from relationships and boundaries to burnout and self-worth, all through a therapist lens.
SPEAKER_02We're licensed therapists, but this isn't therapy. It's a place for insight, reflection, and a little humor along the way.
SPEAKER_01Your questions, our insights, Ask a Therapist. This podcast is intended for entertainment and educational purposes only. The content shared should not be considered a substitute for professional mental health care, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly encourage listeners to seek help from a licensed mental health professional for any personal or psychological concerns.
SPEAKER_02Any advice or commentary offered is based solely on the information provided. As such, we cannot guarantee any specific outcomes, and the feedback given should not be interpreted as professional mental health advice. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, please call 911-988 or 211.
SPEAKER_01Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Ask a Therapist. This is episode 27. We are wishing everyone a happy Father's Day to those who are celebrating and thinking of those where this holiday might be a little bit difficult. This week we have a letter from a dad who is feeling like he would like to be celebrated a little bit more on Father's Day, but doesn't know or feel completely comfortable asking for that. We want to share a quick reminder that while our questions are specific to listener submissions, the insight and responses we share are meant to be supportive and applicable to anyone who may be listening. We're excited to explore this with you all, so let's get started.
SPEAKER_02Yes, let's. But before we do, Kenzie, I know last week I had a chance to tell you about the absolute best dining experience that I've ever had, which happened to be in New Orleans. But it makes me curious about what would you say your best dining experience has been?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. I am still thinking about your dining experience. It just sounded so fun. You and me both.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, okay, my best dining experience. This, so this is a fun fact about me. Um, Carly, I don't know if you know this, but I feel like I feel like I must have talked about it at some point. But I love cooking competition shows. I just like okay, yeah. So that is like my jam. Maybe I've even talked about this before, but um I I love cooking competition shows. And there is a restaurant that essentially like mimics chopped. And we went for I've been no, I've only been once. I really want to go again, but um, I went for my birthday like two years ago, and they have two chefs that come in and they give them like a mystery basket full of ingredients and they put a timer on and they have like 30 minutes to make an on or an appetizer, like 45 minutes to make an entree, and then 30 minutes to make a dessert. And they have to like use the mystery basket ingredients, like they don't have to use them in every portion of the meal, but they have to be used at least once uh throughout the appetizer, entree, and dessert. And they have to be done by the certain time and like get it all plated up for everybody. And so you, as the as the person that's there that is enjoying this experience, you get two appetizers, two entrees, and two desserts, and you try them all. And then at the end, you get to vote for who you think had the better overall meal, and they get like a cash prize, but you're watching them cook the whole time, like the timer's actually going on. The food was so good. It was such a cool experience. It was and like my dream. So I loved it.
SPEAKER_02That sounds amazing and like a nice like mix of fun, but then like good dining, and sounds like there's like a little bit, an element of surprise there, right? Because you're having dishes different dishes prepared. You don't necessarily know what exactly you're gonna get or what they're gonna come up with.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's so fun and like it, it's just such a cool experience, and the competition part of it is like like so up my alley.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I don't think we have anything like that in Pittsburgh, at least not right now. But my first trip to Connecticut or New York or Philly, I'll definitely have to have to check that out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. Oh my gosh, yeah. If you come up here, let me know. I'll get I'll get the tickets early. We can go, we can try it out.
SPEAKER_02Perfect, perfect. I'm in countless.
SPEAKER_01You know, almost coming up on a year of doing this podcast. That would be so fun. I know that sounds crazy to say, but yeah, it absolutely could be, yes. Good. Okay. Well, we yes, have a great question to jump into today. So let's go ahead and get into it. If you're struggling with anxiety, navigating life adjustments, or want better emotional regulation or communication tools, therapy can help. I'm Kenzie, a licensed professional counselor in Connecticut, offering virtual therapy services to individuals looking for meaningful change. I offer tailored therapeutic care to my clients, as well as an emphasis on a strong therapeutic relationship where you will feel safe to process and grow. Visit www.therapy-with-Kenzie. That's K-E-N-Z-I-E dot com to learn more or schedule a consultation.
SPEAKER_02Okay, today's letter says, Hi Kenzie and Carly. I'm writing because Father's Day is coming up, and I'm already feeling that familiar mix of disappointment and guilt. And it hasn't even happened yet. Here's the situation. Every year I go all out for Mother's Day. I'm talking thoughtful gifts, helping the kids plan something meaningful, making sure the day actually feels special for my wife, not just another Sunday where she's still doing the mental load. Same goes for my own mom. I put in real effort because I want them to feel appreciated and celebrated. And then Father's Day rolls around and it's like an afterthought. I get a happy Father's Day, maybe a last minute card, sometimes something small that clearly wasn't planned ahead of time. The day itself usually just kind of happens. Maybe I get a meal I like and I'm left alone to watch whatever I want on TV. The thing is, my kids are 12 and 7. They're not toddlers anymore. They're absolutely capable of putting thought into something, especially with a little guidance. And my wife is more than capable. She just doesn't seem to prioritize it the same way I do. My own dad always downplayed Father's Day saying, don't make a fuss. But here's the truth. I want a fuss. Being an active, present dad is a lot of work and I want to feel appreciated for it. Is that wrong to admit? I just don't know how to say it without coming off as needy or worse, like I'm keeping score. I don't want my wife to feel like I'm criticizing her or for my kids to feel like they need to repay me for being their dad. But I also don't want to keep pretending I'm fine with something that genuinely hurts my feelings every year. So what would you suggest? Do I tell my family I want them to step their game up? Or is this just one of those things where I need to adjust my expectations? Thanks. What do you think, Kinzie?
SPEAKER_01I mean, my heart goes out to this listener listening to it. The familiar mix of disappointment and guilt was like one of the first lines where I was like, oh, you know, this listener is really feeling um disappointed. And I think understandably, you know, there's a lot, obviously, that we're gonna get into and that we're gonna talk about. Um but I think something that came up for me when hearing this question was like, you know, we do we do place such an emphasis on moms as parents and the dad kind of saying, like, you know, it's it's being an active present dad is a lot of work and I want to feel appreciated for it. It's a super fair feeling to have, especially on on this day where it is specifically for dads. They said, is that wrong to admit? And to me, that was such like a flashing, hold on, wait a second question, because I'm so curious around why that would be wrong to admit, to want to feel like your role as a dad of it's so important. It's such a big role to fill in a child's life to be an active, involved parent. And I'm curious as to why the listener would would say, is that wrong to admit? It sounds like maybe there's been some subliminal messaging around kind of like maybe it's not manly or it's not like a dad's role to want to feel fussed over or to want to have a celebration or that appreciation. So no, it absolutely is not wrong to admit. And this is my last like initial thought that I'll give. But I tell people this all the time with birthdays. Birthdays are always kind of something where people are like, it just didn't match expectations. It was just disappointing. And days like this, Mother's Day, Father's Day, you have to communicate what it is that you want out of these days. You cannot expect other people to know or anticipate what it is that you're looking for because you will always be disappointed. And it is not too crazy or too much to ask for, hey, here's what I want to do. Here's what I want this day to look like, here's what's important to me. That's being a good communicator. It's not asking too much, it's not expecting too much or making too much of a fuss. When you don't do that, you feel the resentment. And this is, it sounds like this has been years of feeling kind of dismissed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, everything that you said in terms of your initial reactions, I could relate to. I did feel, you know, kind of sad for this listener when I read it. But if I'm honest, my initial reaction was did my husband write in and try to like in an underhanded way tell me that because I think this is like a super common thing. And honestly, I felt a little guilty reading it, you know, just because the truth is that I can relate to putting more effort into Mother's Day than I do Father's Day. And I think that probably stems from, you know, my own parents and things. I can relate to the dad who's like, oh, don't make a fuss. I don't want anything, you know, and you kind of get used to that. Also, just traditionally, because women have taken more of the lead when it comes to child rearing, I think that's why they tend to get more like focus and appreciation and attention during Mother's Day. But this generation of dads, like millennial dads in particular, are, and I think it with every generation like becomes more and more involved. Um, I know a lot of Gen X dads who are very, very involved, but like with every generation, that like shifts a little bit more. And obviously there are other factors that contribute to that. You have more women working outside the home. And so there's more of like a split of those household responsibilities and parenting responsibilities. But it is one of those like kind of cliche things that, you know, tends to come up. And I do think societally we're shifting. And there's nothing wrong with men or dads wanting more acknowledgement and appreciation for that because he's right. It is a lot of hard work. And to ask that for one day you be acknowledged for that, I don't think is asking too much.
SPEAKER_01No, no, I don't either. I think that, you know, like you're saying, just depending on how you grew up or what you think somebody wants, like you might just kind of get into like routines or patterns as a family. His wife and kids might not have, you know, I I wouldn't take this as like they don't care or they don't appreciate. They genuinely might not know how you want to be appreciated or that this is important to you or that this means something to you. And so to this listener, I, you know, I think that it makes total sense to kind of be like, hey, I know that traditionally in the past, this is how we've done it. Father's Day is coming up. Here's what I want to do this year. Here's what I'm excited about. Here's, you know, where I want to go or what I want to do. I do think that having that conversation with your wife is probably an important one. You know, they had mentioned my kids are 12 and 7. And while older, yes, they are in like a prime stage in life where like, it's all about them. Like they're not necessarily gonna go out of their way to be like, oh, let's think about dad or mom and what they want and what they would be excited about if if given the opportunity to like stay home and play games or talk to their friends or whatever. No, they're gonna choose that 10 out of 10 times, they're kids. So having that conversation with their wife or setting the expectations with your wife and with your kids and kind of being like, here's what I want, not putting it on them necessarily to plan, or you know, not definitely not putting it on the kids to plan, but also not being like, you know, I want to celebrate more, but not really giving them any guidelines around how you want to do that, like being a little bit more specific about here's what I think would be fun, here's what I would love to do. You know, you don't have to make the reservations or, you know, do all the cooking or anything like that, but giving a little bit of guidelines around kind of like, here's what my ideal day would look like. Here's what I want to be in control of or in charge of, here's what I don't want to be in control of or in charge of. Um, you know, and this this means a lot to me. I I want it to be a day that I get to spend with my family and get to have these moments and these memories and and feel feel all the feelings that that come up with this holiday.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So you touched on two things that I want to um just highlight. One being it was not clear to me in this letter how much of this has been communicated to his wife and kids, right? He did mention that his dad always said, Don't make a fuss. I don't know if he said don't make a fuss or if that's just kind of been the assumption and he's never countered it, right? So that was definitely one of the first things was like, have you attempted to communicate this? Um, and if so, like what have those conversations like? Don't think that to your point, we can assume that people should know how to show up for us if we're not willing to like offer some sort of feedback or guidance on that. People are not mind readers. Even when you show someone through your actions, like I hear him saying for Mother's Day, I do these things. We can't assume that that's going to translate to he wants the same thing done in return. And so I this comes up so much with couples of like, if I have to tell the person to do it, then like almost like I don't want it. Like I shouldn't have to tell you. But there is such there, there's love in someone being able to do something because you asked. Like one way to look at it is like, why wouldn't they think of it on their own? But another way to look at it is if they didn't think of it on their own and I brought it to their attention and they're willing to make the adjustment, isn't that an like an ultimate expression of love and care? Is like you will go outside of something that you might typically do for the other person. And so just the idea that he would have to ask, I kind of want to reframe that from a negative to like it's an opportunity for you to kind of show or teach your family how you would like them to show up for you. And if they can kind of meet that challenge, that can even strengthen the bond, right? Because everything isn't always just like naturally perfect. Sometimes we have to work at it. And the fact that we're willing to work at it is the expression of love, you know?
SPEAKER_01Can I go ahead and say something that's like because I love that. It's such a good reframe. I'm so happy that you said that I'm gonna use that. Um, something that comes up so often in individual therapy that I do with people is if I have to ask for it, it won't mean as much. And that is always something that people say that they feel of kind of like, I don't I don't want to have to tell them how I want them to show up for me, or I don't want to have to tell them that I want them to do this for me because it's not going to feel the same as if they just did it. And that's one of the biggest things that I always push back on with clients because people, you can't expect people to be mind readers, and you are the one who ends up disappointed. They are oblivious, they have no idea what you might be thinking or what you might be feeling because everybody's thinking about them themselves and what's going on for them. And so it's not that it means less. And so often what happens is people will finally kind of like say it and and be like, hey, you know, this hurt me, or hey, you know, I really would appreciate it if you did this. And then people will say or do the thing that they were hoping that they were going to, and they're like, no, it actually did feel nice to have them acknowledge it or to say it. It it really didn't mean less having to ask for it. That is a part of life. You're going to have to tell people and be honest with people. It's it is an act of love of being able to say, like, you know, not getting defensive around it, not getting upset around it, being able to communicate what you need or what you want from somebody and teaching them how to love you in the way that that you would like to. It strengthens a relationship, it strengthens a bond. It doesn't make it less meaningful. And so just kind of putting that out there, I'm glad that you said that and mentioned it.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Absolutely. I think the other, you know, piece that you mentioned was the age of the kids. I agree. They're not quite at an age where I think it's fair to expect them to fully lead in terms of, you know, developing whatever the Father's Day plans are going to be. But they are at an age where the way that the parents respond to things teaches them like what level of importance and what value we place on things. And so, you know, the listener is saying for Mother's Day, like I go all out. And I'm sure that the children see that. Like they have some understanding of Mother's Day, you know, is taken seriously. These are the things that we do on Mother's Day. I don't know. He he didn't necessarily mention how involved the kids are in his plans for the wife, but you know, we teach children things about what's important and and value based on what we value and how we respond to things. So I do think they're at an age where if, you know, mom or the other people in their life kind of downplay Father's Day, it is sending a message that Father's Day isn't quite of the same level of importance. And so I think this is something I agree, it's a conversation with the wife. It is also maybe a conversation with the kids, but I'm thinking of it as like how do the wife and kids kind of work together to um make sure they're conveying to the children like the value that they want to be placed on, and not just Father's Day, because that's like a holiday, but the importance of expressing appreciation and acknowledgement toward their dad for the things that he does do. So I agree. I think it's it may be up to the wife to kind of take the lead there, at least in guiding the children on what they could maybe do. So maybe that is having the kids help with cooking a meal. Um, I also don't know the wife's relationship with her father, but it also made me curious about that. Like if she experienced the same kind of downplaying, or if it's possible she had a different or conflictual relationship with her dad, how that might influence how she approaches Father's Day. So it just made me curious about a lot of the like kind of context around it. Um, so that you can really approach a conversation with your wife about like, this is how I'm feeling, this is what I would like more of. And then hopefully she can take the lead in guiding the children to then, you know, adopt that same value.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Carly, what are your thoughts? Because I am really curious, you know, that that question just does keep coming back up for me as of like, is it wrong to admit that I want to be celebrated on Father's Day? What is your, you know, what are your thoughts around? I like what you mentioned at the beginning of like there are a lot of dads in this generation that are much more active and present in their kids' lives, but maybe there is still this feeling of like, well, but like I can't, you know, maybe it's wrong for me to to want to be celebrated in this way on Father's Day. What are your thoughts just around that question and how you would address that with this listener and other dads who are maybe feeling the same way, but don't, but, but maybe feel weird about being like, celebrate me, or like, you know, because what because women really don't like Mother's Day is a day for women to kind of be like, you are gonna celebrate me. Here's what I want. This is what, you know, do not wake me up until I wake up naturally. Like women really don't have as much of a problem of kind of saying, I want to be celebrated on this day. And and it may not feel as comfortable for dads to say that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Of I mean, of course, when I heard the question, my answer is of course it's not, you know, wrong to admit that you want more acknowledgement, but I do understand the listeners kind of maybe hang up on how that will be perceived. And I think it's a lot of the things that you're saying, like as women and men, we're just we're conditioned differently societally. There are certain expectations that are placed on men versus women. And I don't want to make it a man versus woman thing. I think we have our own hardships and challenges, and it's not to compare them. But one area where men really aren't given a whole lot of leeway is in like emotional expression. You know, I've heard people say men are allowed to be like angry or fine. Nuance of like, well, actually, I'm feeling like a little sad, but a little bit. These are just not things that we really teach young boys, teenagers, to to adult men to express and to feel comfortable expressing. We also have a lot of messaging in like television and media. You know, it's it's kind of fair game to poke fun at the dad. And like if you think about a lot of like dad characters on TV, you know, sometimes they're kind of like aloof, or we make fun of them being like the silly goofy dad, or almost like the dumb dad. Like, there's a lot of messaging around the dad figure that isn't exactly positive or like encouraging to men. So I really do understand why he's questioning even. And the ability to bring it up. He's saying, I don't want to seem needy. You know, he doesn't want to seem like a pastor, like, hey, everybody celebrate me, you know, like, but he wants to be acknowledged. So I very much understand why he feels hesitant about it. He also mentioned the keeping score aspect of I don't want it to feel like it's a tick for tack, you know, but he's still a human being. Having needs is a part of being a human. So there's nothing like wrong with that. Obviously, communicating them. I don't know if he feels like he has the tools to effectively communicate it, because if it's not something he's practiced in and it's not something that he has a whole lot of examples of, right? Then like, how do you broach this topic? And so it makes me just want to, you know, kind of offer some ways to bring up the discussion in case he's feeling like I don't even know where to begin with this, you know. And I think it can be a very, you know, light, you don't have to bring it up as if it's such a so fraught with emotion, even if you feel strongly about it, you can kind of sit down with your wife and say, babe, you know, I really, really hope you enjoyed your mother's day. Like I put a lot of effort and intention into it. And I would appreciate that that effort being reciprocated, you know, and like you said, to to provide some examples of what would land well with him, I think can be helpful. But I do get it. I think that we expect men to be emotionally sensitive to our needs as women, but to completely like bottle up and handle their own emotions as men. And it's not, it's not fair or realistic. Sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I think that a good, you know, you don't have to apologize. I love the um framework that you put, Carly, of like, you're a human, you have emotional needs. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. And so I think, you know, for for us, just kind of reassuring you, like, of course, this is not wrong. Um, you can ask for this no matter what. But uh, you know, if a helpful reframe for you is kind of like what you're asking for is genuine connection and love and experiences with your family. You don't have to apologize for that. And also you're setting a great example for your kids of kind of like, we love and appreciate both of our parents. Like that, that is something that is important. We value the father role, and and we're gonna use this day to celebrate that and appreciate all that dad gives to this family. Like that is not something to feel bad about, to apologize for, or to feel like that's too much. So, so recognizing that you're creating moments, experiences, memories with your family. You're also modeling and valuing a really important role and the importance of that role, that that is such a positive. And you also might be modeling that, like, yes, you are a male, you're a dad, and you also have emotional needs. And and your kids should see that too. And it's not just kind of like, oh, I'm either angry or I'm fine or I'm tough or I'm whatever it is, you're human and you want to have fun, you want to be celebrated, you want to enjoy as well, maybe feel emotional around your role as a dad. That's a beautiful thing. It's okay to feel that, it's okay to express that. And there's no reason or need to feel worried about expressing it, to feel needy. It's not, it's not a needy ask. It's not a tit for tat. You're just wanting something and so feeling the confidence of expressing that without feeling like, oh, is this too much? It's not.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, it's not too much, but I do understand his angst around bringing it up, you know, because I don't know how it will be received by his wife in fairness. And I, you know, it like in other words, it's possible that some of that fear isn't just coming from nowhere. You know, again, we don't know if he's attempted to bring this up. And especially if he's if he has and it wasn't necessarily received well, then of course that's only gonna add to the angst around it. But to everything that you said, I I would agree. I think it's good to teach your children that, you know, sometimes things, sometimes it's important to prioritize other people and their needs and not only your own. Of course, we have to teach our children to, you know, address their own needs and and be on their own team and all of these things. But it's also okay to teach them that not everything is about them all the time. And sometimes we do things whether we want to do them or not, because it's about another person. It's about celebrating dad in the way that he wants to be celebrated. So maybe I'm, I don't know, interested in golf. But if dad wants us to go play golf for his birthday, I mean for Father's Day, and that's what he's into, then yeah, you're gonna sacrifice this time and it may not be your preferred activity, but we're gonna do it because it's something dad enjoys and he deserves some attention as well. Just like when it's your birthday or your special day, you know, we prioritize you. So I think there's like opportunity for learning for like everyone in here. And I so appreciate this question and kind of like all the questions we've been getting from men, like that's not lost on me how many of the questions have been from men and from the male perspective. I know that as two women, like we clearly there's some aspects of that where we just we we can't fully relate, but I do appreciate the acknowledgement of like this is different for we experience it differently than how they do. And sometimes as women, we can forget that, you know. So I appreciate the reminder as well. It's making me rethink Father's Day this year and you know, my own dad and my husband and things like that.
SPEAKER_01So I agree. And that's a that is a very good point to bring up. Um, and I really like the perspective of like not everything is all about us like teaching your kids that sometimes we have to be um open and receptive and respectful to what other people want to do too, even if that's your parents. Because I think sometimes, you know, like kids they'll do that for their friends or for other people, but then for their parents, they'll be like, I don't want to, like all this kind of stuff. And like for the dad to know too, even if even if you get some pushback, maybe like it's it's still okay to kind of say, well, actually, I'm it's it's also teaching my kids a little bit of a lesson here too, uh, that will help them in life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, for sure. They didn't say, um, he didn't say his children's gender, but it does make me wonder if any of them are boys. You know, remember just like he talked about his dad being the kind of like don't make a fuss. Like it's also teaching them something. And so I just imagine if one or both were boys, like remember that they could potentially be a father one day. And so you're kind of even modeling for them what it might look like to ask for what they need, or that, you know, that is a role that is celebrated and should be celebrated. But even if they're girls, it's also teaching them something, you know, about that, about how they may want to honor their future, you know, spouse or or what have you, or just the importance of honoring their own dad. So again, everything is like cyclical because on one hand, it may feel kind of scary and daunting to bring up the topic. But I think there's like real opportunity for growth and like a benefit to everyone involved, a benefit to the marital connection, a benefit to the children and learning like values and and you know, learning to prioritize someone else, a benefit to the family unit, and then a benefit to the listener and actually getting the level of acknowledgement and appreciation that he's seeking. And so I think that he has a real opportunity here. He may feel like it's a little unfair that it's placed in his lap to initiate it, but I think there's a real opportunity here for everyone to grow as a result if he can have the courage to, you know, go for it and not be afraid to say, I'm looking for a little bit more here, guys.
SPEAKER_01I think that that is um, I think it's spot on. And, you know, I'm I'm excited for this listener. I hope that he is able to kind of take this and plan for it and and use this as a little bit of a motivation or a boost to to communicate what he's feeling. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And shout out to the dads. I mean, I know some really, really, really great dads. I have been so fortunate to have some really exceptional men in my life, like in my personal life, my dad, my husband, my husband's family, my in-laws. Like, there are some really, really exceptional dads out there. And we want you to feel acknowledged because you you absolutely deserve it. So happy Father's Day to all of the men, the fathers, the the father figures, the people who step in, even when they're maybe not the biological father, but the stepdads and the uncles and the coaches and the mentors and the pastors. And I mean, the list just kind of goes on and on. And um, we really do value that. So happy Father's Day.
SPEAKER_01Yes, happy Father's Day. It's such a it's such an important role. It makes such a difference, and and it's not always easy. So definitely see you and appreciate you and your making lives better by the love and the care that you provide. So happy Father's Day.
SPEAKER_02If you'd like to hear our thoughts on a topic that matters to you, email your question to infot ask a therapistpod.com. We'd also like to hear your thoughts on today's topic. What resonated, what didn't, and what did we miss? If you have advice for our listener, please share it. You may just hear your feedback on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at ask a therapist underscore pod. Emails and DMs are always welcome. Also, if you'd like to connect with me or Kenzie and learn more about the services we offer in our private practices, check the show notes for ways to reach us directly. With that, we're signing off. Thanks for listening, and remember, don't wing it, just ask a therapist.
SPEAKER_01That's it for today's episode. We hope it gave you something to reflect on. Or maybe even that aha moment.
SPEAKER_02If so, you know the drill. Rate, review, subscribe, and don't forget to text it to the group chat. Remember, sharing is caring.
SPEAKER_01If you have a question you want us to tackle, big or small, we want to hear it.
SPEAKER_02Email us at info at askathherapistpod.com or slide into our DMs on Instagram at ask a therapist underscore pod. You bring the questions. We'll bring the insight and probably a metaphor or two. This is Ask a Therapist.