Forkin' Good with Simon Gault & Kate Fenwick
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Forkin' Good with Simon Gault & Kate Fenwick
Starting a Weight Loss Journey When Life Won't Slow Down
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IMPORTANT NOTE FROM SIMON: Just to clarity what I said in the video: sushi isn’t automatically “healthy” from a blood sugar or weight-loss point of view because it’s rice-based. Rice isn’t sugar, it’s starch but that starch is broken down into glucose (a simple sugar) in the body. One cup of cooked white rice delivers around 45 g of carbohydrate, roughly 11–12 teaspoons worth, which can raise blood sugar fairly quickly, especially in larger portions or with sauces and mayo. That’s what I’m talking about: carb load and blood glucose impact, not that rice literally turns into table sugar. Portion size and what you eat it with makes a big difference.
Life doesn’t pause just because you decide to take better care of yourself.
In this episode of the Forkin Good Podcast, Kate shares the start of her weight loss journey while juggling work travel, family life, and a schedule that refuses to slow down. We talk honestly about what makes change hard, why timing is never perfect, and how small, realistic steps matter more than big promises.
We also get into the very real challenge of feeding families right now. School lunchboxes, rising food costs, time pressure, and how parents can make better choices without blowing the budget or losing their minds.
This is not about perfection, quick fixes, or dramatic before and after stories. It’s about real life, real constraints, and finding a way forward anyway.
If you’re trying to look after your health while life keeps throwing curveballs, this one’s for you.
Let us know in the comments what part of life makes healthy change hardest for you right now.
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Welcome to the Forking Good podcast with Simon Golton, Kate Fenwork for another
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conversation. Love a good conversation. A good conversation is a great place to
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start with everything. You got your notebook out, Kate. Well, yeah. So, you know, I know we've
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done lots of episodes on sleep, uh, E numbers and things like that, and I
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start traveling next week, and I need to start kicking off on this health plan,
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you know, like I've had the summer, and I have been very healthy this summer, Simon. I have actually tried. Although,
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you brought bloody M&M's.
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Well, that it's a treat, isn't it? You didn't have to eat them. You literally almost all but waved them
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under my face. I know. We were just being sneaky sitting there eating them while the kids weren't there. Um, but I
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Yeah, I'm ready. Next week I'm going to kick off this full full health sort of
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journey for this year. Um, and I've been working on my sleep. Yeah. Well, I had a look at your
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Aura Ring app on your phone cuz you've got that very clever ring that sits on
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your finger and measures all your sleep and all everything around how much REM
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sleep you get, how much deep sleep you get and your average sleep and you're doing really well.
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You're doing really well. You're getting that sort of hour of REM sleep, which is fantastic. So, really well done. You've
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you've made some serious inroads. You should be proud of yourself. Oh, and I'm feeling better for it, too.
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I must admit, like I just Yeah. And it's become really important to me. Like the other night, everybody else is staying
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up and I was just like, I need to go to bed and then I had a good sleep. It's having that cur curfew where you
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go, I'm into bed by X time no matter what. and getting out of bed at the same
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time every day. So, your circadium rhythm can get in a rhythm. That's why they call it a rhythm.
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And you'll really start to gain even more traction
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because you could probably do with just a little bit more sleep than what what you were getting. You're getting 6 hours
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and 23 minutes average sleep a night. What would I'd love to see it in that 7
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to 8 hours. So, by going to bed at the same time every night, whether you decide that's 11:30, 10:30, whatever it
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is, and getting out of bed, whether it's the weekend, doesn't matter, out of bed
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at the same time every day. Yeah. Trains your body to understand that's
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what we're doing. That's the program. Yeah. And I think that's the next that's the next thing I'll work on with the
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sleep is actually that like trying to go to bed at the same time. Just make myself 10:30. That's it.
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And get out of bed. Yeah. At the same time. And try and turn those lights down a bit
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earlier and wind down to that time that you're going to sleep.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's been I have actually been doing that at home too cuz we've got a dimmer on the light and so I turn
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it down and it's Yeah, it's been working well. Nice work. Congratulations. Cuz you know
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that Do you feel it's a lot better than what you were getting? Oh yeah. No, much better. cuz I was
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actually having like waking up at 2:00 every night and then not being able to get to sleep or not getting to sleep
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till 2:00. It was hideous. And now it's like no, I feel far more rested. Um the
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other thing I've been really conscious of and that's been the last couple of weeks is drinking me water. like cuz I I
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notice like my skin um is often quite dry on my face and I know that it's
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dehydration and so I've been trying to make sure I'm drinking more but then we started
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talking about the strategy moving forward and it was like and it was cuz I thought
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I needed to drink 2 L of water but then you well we did the calculation and based on
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your weight and height and age and being a female, we worked out that you actually needed to drink more than 2
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lers of water a day. And when it's hot like this, you know, in New Zealand
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right now, we're in the middle of summer. Do you find it harder to drink water in
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summer as opposed to winter? Cuz I I find it even harder strange.
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Yeah. In summer to drink water. And I always find in winter I find it really easy. I
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know that I need to be drinking 2 lers of water. where I get up in the morning. First thing is I do is have a big glass
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of water and I really get into it. Yeah, I have to do a few toilet stops but I find in
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summer harder than in winter to do that. Yeah, I have actually struggled and I I think just making sure like I was in
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Oakuckland last week and I actually made sure I packed my drink bottle with water in it and then carried it around with me
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because otherwise especially when I'm in hotels I know sometimes their water's
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not that good either and you sort of drink it out of the the bathroom tap which you sort of feel
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a bit so I'm like no I'll get my get my water be a bit more organized. post. And I
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think today I've done pretty much drunk three or four of those.
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That's great cuz it's a liter, right? So that's really good. Yeah. I think I find it helps me to keep a
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large glass in my bathroom. So when I get up in the morning, the very first thing I do
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after the L stop is go is have a large glass of water.
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Yeah. And then I'll do the shower and all that sort of thing. and I'll have another large glass of water. Well, before you
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know it, I've I've almost done a liter. Yeah. You know, it doesn't take long right at
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the start of the day. Big glass of water. Yeah. And by the time I get to work, I'm
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looking forward to the L. That's for sure. And then it's a black coffee probably about that stage. And remember
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that black coffee is also hydrating. Yeah. Um so anyway, well done. That's great.
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And you know we should we're you know think about it like your brain is 80% water. If we're dehydrated our brain
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doesn't work as well or our whole body needs to be hydrated and we're generally dehydrated without even knowing it.
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Yeah. Yeah. And then it affects everything. Right. And you like you say you'll see improvements in your skin and all sorts
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of things. So well done. No I'm enjoying that. And I think this cuz this week my goal is to start going
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out for a walk every day cuz even though I'm on the road had to talk to Charlotte who works with me and hurts her and I on
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the road this week and she's on a bit of a kick as well at the moment. So we're like right well we're going to put it in
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the calendar and make sure that we go and have a walk every day.
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Love that idea. Here's a challenge for you. When you go for your walk, m get your phone out and go on the Forking
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Good podcast Instagram and do a live for for 30 seconds. Hey everybody, I'm on my
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walk and I'll be looking out for it every day and it doesn't matter what time it will pop up in my alerts on my
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phone. But, you know, that's kind of that little what do you call it when you
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know it's like the bad guy making sure you do it because if you look everybody
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in the eye right now out there and tell them that you're going to do a live every day when so we can check up on you
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and that'll make everybody all of us feel bad if we haven't gone for a walk. Right. Well, it's accountability, right? Like
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that's the thing and that and that's that was the word I was looking for. Yes. I think that's the thing that I've started now like we talked about it late
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last year that I wanted to get into it and I've just had you know sort of decided just be kind to myself in
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January work on the sleep work on some simple just taking care of myself better
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and then start now I'm back into it full on well I was actually back into it full on last week but I'm like right I want
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to start especially while I'm traveling with good habits. Yeah. Well, there you go.
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Yeah. And walk every day. Yeah. You and Charlotte. Yep. Hey, here we are
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walking down the street sing.
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I don't know if our singing will be good, but anyway, people in Oakland might complain.
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Um, and then cuz we we did we we sort of I'm looking at my notes cuz Simon and I
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did this deep dive couple of weeks ago. like we sat down and went through
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and cuz the we were also talking about doing the the fasting so the 168
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and I've been getting my head around that how do I work that into my into my
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work week because like you're like me you work at night sometimes and other times you're working
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in the morning and and so I have a lot of like sporadic work across the day and
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sometimes I'm starting at 7:00 in the morning and then finishing at 11:00 at night with my workshops
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during the day. So, I thought about it and I thought I might I think the best plan for me cuz after a workshop at
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night I don't actually feel like eating and so it's and but my workshop I'm
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normally preparing for that about 4:00 don't finish till 9:00. So, I thought I
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reckon I should try doing it breakfast
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as my first meal and then lunch and then not have dinner. What do you reckon? I think that's a fabulous idea.
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Especially if you're going to be staying in hotels quite a bit, you're probably going down to a buffet, breakfast, and
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if you can get down there and start with the big meal, eat like a queen for
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breakfast. Yeah. And a porpa for lunch. Yeah. set yourself up for the day. You know,
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make a beline for the eggs on. Is it buffets mainly that you're doing? Oh, sometimes. Sometimes it's a cafe and
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you've got to, you know, choose what you're having. But some if at the buffet, I must admit like the eggs I I quite
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often go for eggs. Yeah. Um, no toast. I don't normally have toast at all. And I avoid the
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croissants. Just saying. Yeah. They always look so nice though. But, um, I avoid that. But I normally have
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eggs and mushrooms and tomatoes. Say, um, I've gone off bacon because I think
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I just have eaten too much of bacon over the years. Like at hotels and it's
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always dry and chewy and nasty. Well, the protein is going to help set
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you up for the day. So, it doesn't have to be bacon, right? Yeah. And you know there are some
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sausages full of rubbish which are not ideal but generally those buffets have some cold meats and things.
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Ah yeah you know if you think about the Mediterranean you know they're they're having salamis and mortadella and all of
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those pushut and things like that for breakfast. Yeah. And you know so getting some protein is
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going to set you up for the day. So, you know, the the tomatoes are fantastic. The mushrooms are fantastic. The eggs
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are fantastic. What else do they have on there? Stay away from the crispy potato like nuggets and you know those what are
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they? Hash browns. Stay away from those. But look for some protein. Could be some
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smoked chicken. Yeah, anything like that. Some avocado is fantastic, which is good healthy fat.
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But protein cuz what we want you eating like a queen for breakfast. So, we want a big meal. If you're talking about
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doing this 816 hour fasting, so for everybody out there, you're you have an
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8hour window to eat in. So, let's say you're hitting the buffet at 7:00. Yeah.
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You have 8 hours to be eating and then after that you stop eating and then that leaves 16
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hours left of the day where you're fasting. Yeah. So, you know, your body is emptying out
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the freezer. Mhm. And sorry, the fridge which is full. Yeah.
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And then it's diving into the freezer which is the fat we can see on us and it's converting that back to fuel
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and we're burning that for the rest of the 16 hours and and we'll start to see
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some weight loss with that. So eating like really well for that first meal.
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Yeah. And then the next meal can be a lovely salad or wherever you go, you know, you can sort of,
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you know, be a little bit naughty. Look for something you love, but ask them to take out the things that you know are
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not so good. You know, stay away from the pasta at lunch. Try and have a salad. Look for, you know, things that
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have olive oil or avocado and some protein again. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, when you're
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finishing at 11:30 at night, you know, you're thinking, I want to get to bed. You're trying to wind down because
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you've had a big day. You've just been standing there talking to a whole bunch of people. You're a bit wired. But if
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you can wind down at that stage, absolutely fantastic. And look for things during the day that you know
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things like, you know, if somebody had miso soup or um you see something with
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sauerkraut or kimchi. These are all things really good for your gut bacteria. Yeah.
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Um you could even travel with your own jar of sauerkraut. Yeah, I could too.
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You know, find a sauerkraut that you like. There are so many different ones out there because a tablespoon of that,
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you know, even it would look a bit odd, but I who cares about looking odd, you know, a tablespoon of that on with your
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salad at lunch or whatever you decide to have. Super good for that gut health, you know, that microbiome in there.
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But let's go back three three steps just because this is all really good stuff. Yeah. and so exciting that you're going
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to target to eat in that eight hour windows because it will take no time for you to get used
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to that. Yeah. And then it will be down the track that is going to be your
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secret weapon. Yeah. But initially first couple of weeks it's kind of tricky because you know eating
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in that 8 hour window is a bit odd. It's new. But once you get in a rhythm it's just like you sleep. Once you're in a
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rhythm, things start to go well. But have you taken your weight, written
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it down? Yes, I have. Have you done your measurements? Because No, I'm going to do them tomorrow cuz I
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need help to do those. Okay. So that that is really important because what's going to happen is you're
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going to start losing weight and then you're going to sort of plateau a bit and it will become a bit
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disappointing and that's at the stage where you should take your measurements again
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because you'll find that you're actually you're losing fat but there's muscle
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there. Muscle's heavier than fat. Yeah. And you'll want go okay well I'm not losing that sort of 2 kilos or 1 kilo a
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week. whatever it is anymore, but your body shape is changing and then it will feel really good. So that's why
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you want to take your measurements now because in a month's time, it's going to
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be a good feeling when you take those measurements. Okay. No, that's cool. Carry on with your notes.
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No, well, I was just thinking like these are the things and I mean if anybody out there wants to join me on this journey,
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feel free to jump in and you know follow some guidelines from Simon. We have seen
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some people jump in there and say loving all the health tips and following along.
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So that's great because you know we're all on a journey. Oh, of course we are. And you know you're sharing your journey
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and people can sort of join in, right? Yeah. Carry on. Okay. So we've got the walk every day.
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So this this is what I'm gathering. Right. So we've got the 30 minutes
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minutes of sunshine and walk every day. need to drink three lers of water a day because of my height and I'm short and
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round. But most people need to think, you know, I want to get two liters in before at
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least. Yeah. Then the other things we're talking about is that preparing for bed. So um the hot shower before bed. Now I
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have struggled with that cuz I'm menopausal. I'm already sweating by the time I go to have a hot shower. But the
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times that I have done it, I have actually found that my temperature then drops and I go to sleep quite quickly.
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Um, I've been working on the dimming the lights 2 hours before bed. Um, no screen
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time before bed is a bit of a challenge because sometimes I'm winding down watching telly, you know, like cuz that
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sometimes just takes my head off everything else. But I have also been
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traveling with a book. So I can read a book. Yeah. I've got um the one thing that as you
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know today I was I'm fighting the no cream in my coffee. I've gone to all
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black coffee. So no more chai lattes, but I'm fighting that little bit of cream.
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Yeah, you're hanging in with the cream. I need to get I know I need to. So this week, no more cream. Just straight black
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coffee. Wow. That Well, the first couple of weeks you'll really miss it, but you'll
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get to a stage where you don't miss it. Yeah. I know when I did it, I I really The
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first couple of weeks from where's my flat white, you know, but you do get used to it. And now I
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can't think of anything worse than putting milk, even nut milk on my coffee. I just I I can't think of any worse. But I used
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to love it. So, you know, we can train ourselves Yeah. to like something new and
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different. Yeah, it does take a little while though. E um but I've been diminishing the amount that I have, which is good.
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Well done. A splash instead of a a shot. Um and then I've been working on keeping
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the room cool. It was another thing you said like try and keep the room cool when the bed covers light. So, you know,
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at this time of year it's like a sheet is enough cuz otherwise it's too hot. Um,
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just on that, I really notice with my daughter, you know, we go into her room
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and she's got a ranch slider in her room, open, turn all the lights off so it doesn't attract the bugs. Open the
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ranch slider. And if you don't have a ranch slider, just windows, right? And close the door
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and let the room cool down. Yeah. Before you go to bed. And I really notice the difference
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in how quickly she goes to sleep. If that room can be as cool, you know, in
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the perfect world, it's at 18 12° C makes a big difference.
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Yeah. And it's sometimes hard to get it down, especially this time of year, it's hard to get it down there. But
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I think that's where I found like the hot shower and then getting into like a sort of semi cold bed, even though the
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air is warm, has actually made a difference. Yeah. Yeah. Um and then Yeah. like just we
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were talking about what sort of foods as well that I should sort of be targeting to eat. And so those were the ones where
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obviously you said eggs. Eggs are good. So what about fruit?
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Fruit. Berries. Think berries. Blueberries. And you know this time of year when your
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hotels, when you're going to the buffets, there'll be fruit on there. Your body doesn't recognize the
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difference between the sugar and and fruit versus white sugar, right? But in
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the fruit, you've got fiber and good things. So berries really
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really good for you. You know, if you could have half a cup of blueberries a day, yeah, that is going to make a big difference.
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Even more, you know, like fill your boots on things like blueberries. Yeah. Really good. because there's loads of
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goodness in there. So, but you don't want to have a meal of fruit because you're going to be taking
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in too much sugar. So, sitting down and having half a pineapple or, you know, a banana
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or a fruit salad even a it's a lot of sugar whilst you're on this journey to
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shed a bunch of kilos. Yeah. When you have fruit, concentrate on berries make a big difference.
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Okay, cool. And then there's obviously like the the nuts. I know you said to me
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the Brazil nuts, the almonds, and the walnuts are the ones to Yep. Hang hang it with those. Yeah. And
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pecans are are pretty good, too. Stay away from your peanuts. Yeah. And when you have nuts, have unprocessed
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nuts. Yeah. So, not roasted, not salted. Stay away from the roasted and salted nuts. Sometimes, you know, I sprinkle a
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seasoning on there and it makes a big difference. You know, whatever seasoning you like cuz just a little bit is going
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to make them more palatable. But, you know, you don't need to live on nuts either, you know. So, we're not living on blueberries. We're living on nuts.
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We're just trying to have balance. If you like nuts, Yeah. And you do. Yeah. Then a little handful of those a day is
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fantastic. And they're also great to keep in a little mag bag or some kind of bag in your purse. Yeah. that I feel like I'm
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going to norm my arm off. Yeah, you can have enough. You know, you a couple of big glasses of water and a small handful of nuts is
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going to um slow slow that nor the armor of feeling down.
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I love it. I love it. And so then other things the other things that we talked about was edamami beans. You said
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edamami beans are really good. Edamami beans are good. Yep, definitely. And coconut yogurt. These were just the
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things that I wrote down from what we talked about that I like. Yeah. So, the coconut yogurt with the
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berries, yeah, is good. But buy an unsweetened just a plain coconut yogurt cuz some a lot of
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those coconut yogurts out there that have slipped a bunch of sugar in there, you don't want that.
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But if you're looking for that sort of yogurt type fix with some berries, yeah, coconut yogurt is good.
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What about cheese? I actually don't have I haven't written anything down here about cheese, but well, cheese is,
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you know, when you're trying to lose weight, go for hard cheeses, you know, like feta um is a is a good one.
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Parmesan's a good one. Some, you know, maybe some mozzarella cheese is okay.
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Um, but you know the cheddar and things and the breeze and cam beers, all those
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cheeses, you know, in moderation if you're going to have it. Yeah. You know, we're not trying to do a twigs
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and berries diet. Otherwise, it won't work. Right. If you love cheese, have a little bit every now and again. Yeah.
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You know, a weight loss journey, if our goal is a mile away,
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it seems quite a long way, right? Yeah. Yeah. And if we eat the wrong things, instead
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of it being a mile away, that goal, it's a mile and a half away, right? And
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if we don't have the cheese, we can make that goal a little less than a mile away, right?
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So, it's all relative, right? You can have you don't you don't want to starve yourself. And you don't want to go on a
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diet that is is painful and you don't enjoy it
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because man, I've seen all sorts people do all sorts of diets. They lose a bit of weight, they hate it, they so glad
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when it's over, they've lost weight, then they revert back to what they were doing. Yeah. Go back and
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and generally more. So, but always just remember the goal is
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X distance away and you can do things to bring that goal closer or push it out.
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And some weeks you will push it out. So, the M&M's definitely push the M&M's
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will push it out. Yeah. Okay, that's cool. And then there was some things that I wrote down that you
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said were really good for your gut. So things like the sauerkraut, sauerkraut, miso, keir, which is a
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yogurt drink that you can buy. Buy an unsweetened one. Yeah. And really delicious.
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Uh kombucha. Look for kombuchas that are don't not full of sugar. Um
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they're all good things that can help. If you're going to have bread, go for sourdough. Yeah. I'm not going to I'm just going to
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avoid bread cuz I I find any sort of bread just either makes me gives me indigestion or makes me feel bloated.
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Yeah. And if you're going to have pasta, for example, then go for a really good quality pasta
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because the flour will be less refined. Yeah. And you won't feel as bloated
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afterwards. It's like, you know, you can go and have a pizza somewhere. Yeah. And you just feel awful afterwards. The
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supermarket pizzas pizzas are just so processed and awful nasty.
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But if you go to a great pizza restaurant where they, you know, they're starting with a sourdough starter and they're making a good pizza dough,
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you're not going to feel as bloated. And the same applies to pasta. So when you're treating yourself,
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yeah, treat yourself to a really good one. If you're going to have bread, have a really good sour. If you pass a great
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bakery, that's not your just your run-of-the-mill bakery. You know, they make great bed bread. Nip it and grab
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your sourdough. And that's your treat for the week. Then you can freeze sl you
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could slice it all up and freeze it and go cuz remember we are going to cheat. We are we we don't if you love bread you
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need to have it every now and again. Otherwise you'll go crazy. Yeah, you will go crazy. And it's won't
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work, right? We got to have the things we like as well. And by the end of it,
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we won't like M&M's, you know? We won't we won't crave any.
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Yeah, cuz we've had a handful of them every now and then. Won't go and buy the big share pack
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where you don't share it. No, that's right. Yeah. And then apple cider vinegar and coconut
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oil. Yeah. So, everybody's got a lot of different opinions on apple cider
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vinegar. Um some people say that, you know, like a little shot of apple cider vinegar is good for you every day, and
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it probably is. It's certainly not going to do you any harm. Yeah. But I don't know about you, I don't love
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drinking apple cider vinegar. Um, but there is, you know, the apple cider vinegar that have what they call
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the mother in there. Yeah. And that's a better one to go for with
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the sauerkraut. I think the sauerkraut's a really thing to get a good thing to get in into. And in New
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Zealand, the wild fermenttory, they have a really fabulous range of
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different flavors. And you know, often you'll find sauerkrauts at farmers markets. Yeah.
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And you can go along and taste them before because you got to love it. Oh yeah. If you don't like some bad ones.
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Yeah. There is there is some pretty horrendous ones out there. But once you find one that you like, so you put it on
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the side. Kimchi is another really good thing. Full of vitamin C, but so good
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for your gut health, but generally spicy. So you got to like spicy. And kimchi is quite different. And kimchi is
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kimchi, but if you if you do like that and you like that spicy, that can be a really good little additive to have on.
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But just having it for the sake of having it, if you don't like kimchi, go find a good sauerkraut that you like
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instead. Yeah. Cuz I think that's the thing like and I know in the past when I've lost
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weight, it's I've been on smoothie diets, so I've done like, you know, all those different things and it's really
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hard to maintain. And what I'm realizing with especially the chats that we've had
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over the last month or so is it's about it's not actually
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about a diet. It's about a lifestyle change. Yeah. Yeah. Finding things that you like
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that you know are healthy. Yeah. And looking at the labels and not buying things that have got all these E numbers
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in there. We talked about E numbers on a podcast a little while ago. That's important. Yeah. Is reading labels.
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Yeah. And uh we're we're interviewing somebody about the the health soon too. Which will be
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the labels. Yeah. Professor Grant Scofia. We talked about asking if he'd
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come on the podcast and he's really looking forward to it. He is going to be so interesting about reading labels and
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those numbers on there that tell you, you know, it's a 2.5 or it's a four out
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of five for health, I think people are going to be quite surprised and disappointed how misleading they are.
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I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to it cuz after talking at the last podcast about the E numbers
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I like well since I met you really and we had that original discussion I'm constantly looking at what's in stuff
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and just realizing like say for example Pringles is pretty much everything
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except potatoes like it's like it's a true story. It really is.
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You can't you can't even pronounce them. you can't even pronounce it. And I and so I'm really looking forward to picking
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Grant's brain about and and learning from him so that we can share that
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information with you guys as well. But uh that's enough about my weight loss. Yeah, I think we we've done this healthy
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thing to business, right? It's um but I think you know that's people are liking like you know and let us know if
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you're enjoying that. But I think for me it's the the start of the journey.
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And I appreciate your support because you've done it and you're proof that
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if you do this. Yeah. It will work. It will work. And you can still eat Pringles every now
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and again. If you like Pringles or if you love M&M's, you can have some every now and again and you don't suddenly
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burst on your way. And I am not proposing that everybody start tea and Pringles or M&M's at all, but you know,
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like tonight we're making mashed potato for dinner. Now,
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I very rarely have mashed potato. So, there is going to be heaps of butter in
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there. There's going to be cream. There's going to be truffle salt and there's going to be black pepper in there. And it's going to be decadent. I
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know when I eat potatoes, I because of a gene I have, I gain 800% more weight
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than somebody that doesn't have that gene when I eat a potato. So, when I'm having potatoes and by
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adding the butter, it's going to lower the glycemic index. And I'm also putting cream in there. That's all going to
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lower the glycemic index. You know, yes, it's fat. Yeah. And it's going to be super high calorie.
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Yeah. And I am going to gain some weight, but boy, I'm going to have a smile on my face. But it'll be the only time I have mashed potato or potatoes
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probably this month. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so this is my treat day. And I'm going to
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You're looking forward to it. You've been You've been talking about the potatoes all day. Oh, I know.
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I love it. I love it. Um, now another thing I thought we should probably talk about in this
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podcast is every all the kids have gone back to school in the last week or so. Yeah.
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Right. Which is lots of adults are happy. It's been a long school holidays. Um but
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uh it's it's it's interesting like when when all the kids go back to school, everybody starts doing the lunchbox
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thing and I think there's a lot of parents out there. There's so many different there's so much different
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information like and that's why I think talking to Grant will be interesting
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about the cuz we've actually gone and got a few foods that we want to question
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him about um with the healthy sort of things especially like kids lunchbox
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stuff cuz it says that it's healthy but then it's like really um so I'm looking forward to that but
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leading up to that how do you find Hazel with her lunch box cuz you ever get the
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empty lunch box or or do you get the full one coming home? Sometimes it comes home and it's
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completely untouched, which is occasional. And I'm like, I just didn't
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have time, Dad. I was having so much fun with all my friends. We just didn't have time. And I get it, right?
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Yeah. I involve her in the making of the lunch box so that she And sometimes she'll make her own lunch.
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Yeah. But I get her involvement. So, I get her things, you know, what fruit do you want today? You know, do you want apple or we
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had some plums the other day? She chose an apple. I said, "Make sure you eat it." Yeah. Um I had these beautiful little baby
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kiwi fruits, tiny baby kiwi fruits that you can eat whole. Um so I I don't put something in a lunch
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box unless I know she's going to eat it. Goji berries I put in there sometimes instead of putting raisins in cuz
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raisins are just like putting sugar in there. Yeah, goji berries are more expensive. In fact, they're 40% more expensive than
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raisins. Yeah. But you don't need as many of them. And she happens to like them. So,
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and they're full of antioxidants. They're really good for you. Yeah. But I put, you know, definitely le more
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than 40% less of raisins and they do get demolished. Yeah.
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I always choose a good bread. Yeah. And I'm always like, we got to get some protein in here. And then I don't
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generally put butter on the bread. It's more like I'll put a feta spread or a cheese spread that brings a little bit
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of saltiness and yummness to the occasion. But I think the key is to
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involve the kids in it. And the other thing I find is why don't
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I make my own one at the same time? Yes. Instead at the same time I make myself a
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lunge. Yeah. similar to what Hazel has. And there it
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is. I don't call in somewhere because I'm ready to norm my arm off and have
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sushi. Cuz sushi is full of rice. Yeah. And sugar.
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Yeah. And you know, if you think about it, one cup of cooked rice, your body converts to about 12 teaspoon of glucose. So that
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sugar. So you know rice when you have you know rice with your Indian or Chinese food your body converts that
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rice to sugar far out right and of course we store it and we store it as fat right and it's you know
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no good for blood glucose support and things. So everybody thinks sushi's so healthy but it's really not.
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So that's why if I can make my own lunch at the same time as I make hazels
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and I'll tell you my lunches are pretty damn good. I used to be on a Facebook page where I help, you know, I used to
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take photos when she was at preschool of my lunches every day and religiously put them up there to try and sort of I don't
35:38
know, show off how healthy a lunch I was making. You were being that dad. Yeah. Well, I don't know. It's all
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about, you know, people have a go at me
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sometimes about the fact, oh, you know, people can't afford that. It's not it's not about what you can afford. It's like
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the goji berries, right? Yeah. They're 40% more expensive and they cost more, but you don't need
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to use as many. It's like when you make a salad and you want cheap shitty cheese
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in there or use a good quality one. If it's a good quality one, you can generally use less than half.
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Yes. Yeah. You know, and and it tastes better. So, and you know, I'm sick. Yeah. I get
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food's expensive at the moment. It is. It is ridiculous the cost, but if you open your eyes and do some
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searching, you can buy things a little bit cheaper. You talked about the breakfast that you
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had the other day where you paid $32 for a cooked breakfast and you were like, I could have spent that $32 and cooked for
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how many people? thing. I was like, well, by the time I brought some bacon, eggs, and, you know, bread and whatever,
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um, and even a bag of hash browns, I I would have been able to cook breakfast for at least six people.
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Yeah. Yeah. For the same amount of money. That it really really frustrates me. I
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mean, I no disrespect to the the cafe or anything else, but I was just like,
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"Wow, that's that's like that's getting up there now." Um, but I also think as
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well, like I've I've done lots of videos on my my um socials. I think it was the
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beginning of last year where we actually went through cuz a lot of people buy convenience foods like the little yogurt
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pouches and the little um they buy like the the snack cracker with the cheese
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and like all these convenience foods. So they're like, "Oh, yep. Crackers. Oh, this raisins." All those sort of things.
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And like the little box of raisins. And we I I've actually done all these videos so people can look them up, but we
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should do some more as well. But um we actually showed people how if you buy a
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kilo of yogurt and put it into a reusable pouch or a little just a a little container at home
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and you put it, you save so much money. Um, even the crackers and cheese, like
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if you buy a small block of of mold cheese, say, and you buy a box of
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crackers, you are you can make like quite a few crackers and cheeses out