Mother’s Day Reflections and the Value of Time with Family

This week on the Forkin' Good Podcast, Kate and Simon take a step back from food and dive into something a little deeper… Mother’s Day, family, and the value of time.

They share personal stories about their mums, parenting, and the realities of balancing work, life, and raising kids. From mum guilt and missed moments to the importance of simply being present, this is an honest and relatable conversation about what really matters.

There’s also a powerful reminder that time moves fast. Whether it’s your kids growing up or ageing parents, the moments we often take for granted don’t last forever.

And of course, in true Forkin' Good style, they finish with some simple ideas for creating a special Mother’s Day at home, including an easy, thoughtful breakfast.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Well, here we are, another Forking Good podcast, and this week I want to talk about Mother's Day, Simon.

SPEAKER_01 0:14

Mother's Day. Well, you gotta be kind to your mum, right?

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Oh yeah. Or the person who acts like your mum. There you go. Because you know.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Yeah, I'm lucky that I've got an amazing mum who's my best critic. Okay, it doesn't exactly. And you want that in life, right? I mean, do you want somebody who goes, yes, darling, you're absolutely perfect all the time, or do you actually want somebody that tears a few strips off you every now and again? And my mum does that, and she's my best reminder. Yeah. You know, if you think you've got a serial reminder or an Alexa reminder that tells you not to do things, I've got a mum. And I've got to tell you, my mum is amazing. And you're talking about Mother's Day. Mother's Day is coming up, and I'm gonna be in Vietnam. I'll be doing podcasts with you from Vietnam.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

But and I'm gonna miss it again. And you know, you look go to yourself. There's only so many. There's only one a year, and like it was my mum's 90th birthday recently, and I had to go to Nelson to do a free thing down there, which I get roped into way too often. And luckily, one of my friends took her out for lunch because she gets on so well with all my friends. But yeah, I was a bit down in the dumps about that because but then again, as my mum said, you know, my dad was an airline pilot, so he was away a lot. So the actual date is not so important. It's like doing it, but then we're weeks later now, and we still haven't been out for a birthday lunch or anything. But I have been an amazing I hear people that don't get on with their mums or whatever, and I've got I I feel sorry for them, unless they've got somebody that's like their mum. Yeah. Who, you know, is their mum figure. Yes. It's uh they're important people, right? They bring us into the world and they they do so much for us. And I'm just so lucky to have a good mum. And you've got an amazing auntie.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

I do. I'm my auntie Barb, I have to say. My auntie Barb is like my mum. She's amazing. She's my she well the I think the thing, she's my best support as far as like she always watches everything I do. I always get a wee message from her. If she sees me on TV, you know, she and and I one really sad thing for me was when Erin and I got married a couple of years ago, she couldn't come because she was really unwell. And I because I rang her to tell her that we were getting married because it was a secret for everybody else. But I rang Auntie Barb. I wanted Auntie Barb there, but she couldn't come. So we we Facebook live it for her. Just so that so she knew it was gonna be on, and so she was she was there. Um and that's one of the cool things about technology nowadays, because you know, sometimes I suppose when when we grew up, like with dad and grandma and our families were all we all lived in the same sort of area, you know, like we're all in upper heart or lower heart, and we all lived in the same area, and every Sunday we used to go to grandma's for dinner, like every Sunday religiously. But we we also we knew our cousins, we spent a lot of time with our cousins because we all live quite close in the same community. And I feel like nowadays, pe like somebody's mum could live in, you know, Waihee Beach, say, and then they've got a child that's in London, a child that's in Australia, a child that's invercago, I don't know, you know. And then they're actually sort of on on their own a lot of the time. Their kids are away, and whereas that never used to be the case when we were young, we never had kids who went overseas as like when I was a child, none of my well, I did have my auntie and uncle lived in Hong Kong for a while, but their whole family lived there. And I think that's something like, you know, nowadays it's sometimes quite it's great to have things like face FaceTime, because on Mother's Day you FaceTime Mum and talk to her face to face. But I feel like sometimes there's a big lack for people, like some some people who just live on their own, you know. And I've been doing a lot of work in retirement villages, and when I'm talking to the people, they're like, oh yeah, my daughter's here and my son's there and they're living there. And I almost feel like sometimes we need to sort of go and find somebody who you can adopt as a mum. Yeah. You know? Yeah, absolutely. You know, because there's some especially, and I mean this completely going in c different tangent from Mother's Day, but one of the leading causes of death is actually loneliness these days.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

Oh no, yeah. I was in a retirement village a couple of days ago because I'm doing a talk there coming up. And it was really interesting to see, you know, the the lady that was showing around, you know, saying these people, th that table over there, those people, they didn't know each other three weeks ago. They've all just moved in. It's a new retirement home, so they're filling up. And they're all sitting there having fun. They've got a cinema upstairs, they've got the cafe, they've got the bowling green. And you know, you hear all sorts of stories about the first child. Oh, some stories. Um yeah, I know, but mums are so important, aren't they? And they're, you know, I guess taken for granted sometimes, and I'm sure I've done that, and you know, mum will be listening to this. I love your mum more than anything in the entire world, and you are the best critic and always hits the like button, unlike some of you other people out there. You know she subscribes and watches the whole video or then gives us good feedback. She'll always tell me if it's good, then you know, that one was too long, or this one was this, and so on and so forth. That one was really good. But you know, mums always tell it how it is, right? And you just need those people in your life, don't you? And I'm and my sister as well. We're you know, we're we're a very close family. And you know, I remember on my dad's deathbed, one of the last things he said to me was, You look after your mother, or I'll come down and get you.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

You know I think that's one of the things for me is it like I'm now like my son Daniels is 21, and so I am a mum, and I'm also a step-mum as well to Lewis. And you know, I was actually talking to Dan this morning, being for a job interview. So we had a conversation yesterday, and he's sort of trying to give some good mumly advice, you know. And uh because you want your kids to be successful, you want them to be good. The only thing for me is I just want my kids to be good people. You know? With good morals and good that that for me as a mum is all I want for my kids. I don't I don't like, you know, I don't have high expectations of them being rocket scientists or, you know, if that's what they want to do, that's great. But I just want them to be happy, well-rounded, respectful people.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

With some empathy and kind.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Oh, yes, yes. And it's and I think like, you know, with Lewis being a stepmum to Lewis, like, we're tight as anything as as a family. But it's just, you know, I and I actually had, and I hope Daniel doesn't mind me talking about this actually, but had a conversation with Dan recently. Because as a mum, I feel like sometimes you feel a lot of pressure. We put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be the best mum, the most supportive mum, the always their mum, the cooking mum, the cleaning mum. Like there's so many jobs that we take on, and we we often, and they always talk about like especially women these days, who've been in that role of being their mate, like the the caregiver of the children, and we've gone through all of that. And you, the last person you look after is yourself. And that's been something I've been learning with like working with you and Kylie and Grant and that, and it's been amazing, but you often are the last person you look after. And mums are so important when it comes to just, you know, I think we we we try so hard to be the perfect mum. And sometimes we just forget that we just need to be a present mum. You just need to be present for your kids.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

You sound like my mum now. A lot of times she said to me, you know, get off your iPhone. It doesn't matter what's going on on your social media. I tell you that as well. Oh, I tell you. Yeah, well, you're like my other mum, and you know, it's important that you do that, and you're right. And it's anyway, I interrupted, sorry, but just kind of like my mum then. Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Uh hey, hey, Simon's mum. When you're not there, I'm telling him. But no, but I had this conversation with Daniel, because sometimes like as you grow up, like, you know, as a person, just for I was a became a mum at 27, I'm now 48, and and you over time, like when Daniel was little, I was building my business and I spent a lot of time working. And I think nowadays, especially mums and dads, you know, or even like couples who are same-sex couples, all of that, we have to work so hard to make ends meet. And so, and especially with, you know, parents, you introduce a child, and then all of a sudden you've got another dependent, and you've got to work hard to make sure you're providing. And so nowadays, instead of like when I grew up, we were just kids are at home, mum looked after us. Nowadays you've got two parents working full-time trying to make enough to pay the mortgage and rent and whatever. And I feel like over, and I I for I tried all the way through to be the best mum, you know, for Daniel. But one of the things I I realize now, and I talked to him about it, was over those early years, I was working so hard. I would read him a book in bed, I would do all of those things, but as soon as he was asleep, I would go and work because I had to keep working. And and now with Lewis, who he's just turned 12, so known Lewis since he was five, I used to, because I hadn't am now established and I didn't need to work un you know unreasonable hours, I would, I actually realized all of a sudden I had time.

unknown 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

And I would put Lewis to bed and lie there and read him five books, not just one. I had time to, you know, not like go for a walk or do different things with him. And all of a sudden I started feeling this real mum guilt because for Lewis I was doing a lot more because I because I could. And I also, you know, and then but then I started feeling really guilty for Dan. And we actually had a conversation, and I just said to him, I brought it up, and I said, I actually said, I'm really sorry that in those early years I was I was just work I was working. And I used to take him away whenever I could. He'd come and be my ticket scanner and whatnot. But yeah, I think sometimes like it's not until like in the moment, and this is probably for these young mums and dads out there, because dads, same thing, fathers are important, just as important. But I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be perfect, and we we forget that those little times that we have, because you never get them back. You know, they they and I actually saw a post the other day on Facebook and it said, you have a baby for one summer, you have a toddler for three summers, you have a a a child, I think it was for nine summers, then you have a teenager for five summers, and then they're an adult. And then they're gone. And they're gone.

unknown 12:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

And it it's gonna be goosebumps. But it was just so I it just made me realize, you know, 18 years, you think it's a long time, but it's gone like that, right? Hazel's twelve?

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Twelve. And, you know, just going through that stage now where big hugs for dad are not quite as cool. And, you know, y what you say about being president is exactly what my mum says to me. You know, it's not about the trips away or holidays, it's about actually just spending time with them. And, you know, if I'd been a dad when I was younger, because I was a late starter to be a dad, and now I'm a single dad, I would have been a terrible dad because I lived in the restaurant. You know, that was where I lived. You know, was in there early in the morning, didn't get out of there until late. So I would have been a hopeless dad. And then when Hazel came along, I got a a nanny in. So what would happen is in the mornings I would get Hazel ready for school, preschool, drop her off at preschool, go to work for lunch, and then come back, cook dinner, get her to bed early, get go to bed early, because that's the most important thing for young kids, is sleep and then leave the nanny, and then I'd go to work. And then one day I was driving home and the motorway was closed again. Let's not talk about road phones and motorways, but it was closed again, and I just I made that decision right there and there. You know, I I'm gonna be remembered as the guy that was the dad that wasn't around. Yeah. So the next day I went into work and I went up to my business partner and said, Merry Christmas, here's half a restaurant on out. And I don't want to sink for it. Yeah. But, you know, I'm gonna be here for the next three weeks. And it's the best thing I've ever done in my life.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

And now I'm busier than ever, but not cooking in restaurants. So, you know, my sort of role now is creating content and videos and things, which is timely. So the minute Hazel's into bed, I'm not sure. But you know, I I did make that decision at an age where that Hazel was still young enough for me to read books to her in bed and you know, do all those things. And it's the most rewarding thing. And then now, you know, my mum said to me, you know, I heard on the news that, you know, from eleven years old to 16, they, you know, you're not important, they don't listen to you, they're listening to what they see on their phones and things. So, you know, it's so important. But really, can I just tell you one last story about, you know, as a dad recently, Hazel did really well at school last year. And I said to her, you know, do you want to take a girlfriend to the movies or go and have a you know a lunch at a cafe or something like that? And she said, actually, Dad, could I have a glider flight? Well, you know I fly gliders, right? And I've never been trying to get her to come out or push it down her throat, so to speak. So I tell you that was what music to my ears. Yeah. So she went for a glider flight, and guess what? She loves it. And she's still flying. And my life, you know, right now I'm not flying gliders because I can't afford to. I got paid for the first time last week since COVID in my business. So I've done it tough and just basically used or up life savings to carry on.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

We're turning a corner, although this war in Iran's probably not going to help my business with importing food. But anyway, you know, she's carrying on. So, you know, my role is I don't need to go gliding, I need to see her doing this. And I get so much pleasure out of seeing that happen. And that's what parents do, right? And I'm happy to work hard to have my child prosper and do well in the things that they want. Without spoiling them. Yeah. I mean, there's a limit, right? And I'm very lucky that, you know, she works around the house, she does things, comes and works in the deli. She's better on the till than I am.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

And that for me. No, but I think that's really important. And that's why I think, like, you know, mums and dads. It's once you get to that point where like you've you've been through those years, it's all of a sudden you just realise I can't get that time back that I wish that I'd spent. And it's the same with even like an elderly mum. They're only there, like you said, how many more do you have of Mother's Days and birthdays? And I think that's the thing, like we all work so hard, we forget that, you know, one of the most important things is time with the people that we love or that we enjoy spending time with. And I heard this, this I can't remember where I heard it, but it might have even been you might have told me in one of our deep, deep chats that we have. Um, but I I there was this somebody said to me, Oh, you know, nobody nobody ever said when on their deathbed, I wish I'd worked harder.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Yeah. Yeah. That's so true, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, you need time now. You're my conscience. I was sitting here thinking, I need to go visit my mum this afternoon. And you know, Mum, I promise you I'm coming to see you tomorrow if you're listening when this comes out. Because you're right, there's, you know, so important. Yeah. So important. And yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

And even from a health perspective, you know, like we do like we've been talking a lot about health and looking after ourselves and things like that. But I also think there's that the deep side of humans is also looking after each other. So we can sometimes when we get to a point where we we, you know, we're so involved in what we've got going on in this scenario that you forget that you've got, you know, the other people who are like your mums or your aunties who are that important in your life, and you're like, man, I haven't caught up with them for ages. I haven't, I haven't, you know, I need to I need to catch up with them. And so now for me, I'm more I I one of the things that I've learned from like Grant, when we had that conversation with Professor Grant Schofield, and he said, maybe it was him that said that on your death. Yeah, it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Professor Grant Schofield, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

So when we when with Grant, I it really resonated with me when he said, you know, you've got to do things that you wanna do. You've got to do things that you, you know, you gotta find the time to actually meet your friends, do the things that make you happy. And so I've actually been like in the last few weeks, I've been like, I'm gonna ring my girlfriend who I haven't talked to since before Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

I'm gonna make the time. Because I always like going, oh, you know, I'm a bit tired, and that'll be like a two-hour phone conversation. And I'm like, no, I'm gonna do it. I'm ringing, I'm making the time. And so I don't even know where this whole episode was going, but I think that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

But you're so right. I mean, you're talking away here, and I'm thinking, oh, who who do I need to follow? Who do I need to reach out? And you know, I'm fortunate that I get big car drives because, you know, the motorway's so slow. Yeah. And I ring people. Yeah, so I rang a guy yesterday on WhatsApp, who lives in America, but he was in England, and I just happened to get him at a time that he could chat, and it's having good chats with because you only have so many really good friends in life. Yeah. We all know of people that have been friends, but when it didn't suit them, they're gone.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

Or vice versa. They're there for a reason or a season, as they say. Yeah. So you know, when you've got your good solid friends, it's you've got to stay in contact. And it's like yesterday. Yeah. You know, I've got a few guys from school that I catch up with every now and again. It just feels like yesterday. And you don't have to ring those cops so often. No. But there are other people that you do know you need to reach out and make an effort.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

And, you know, effort brings reward.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Oh, absolutely. And it also just, I think that's where for me, you know, even those friends that I don't see often enough, and why I've I suppose why all this came about was I actually lost a uh a a very a cool colleague of mine just a few weeks ago. And the first thing we'd just done that podcast with. Dr. Grant and with Kylie. And and we found out we got to work. It was just after Easter. On the Tuesday, we found out she'd passed away, Louisa. And she was somebody who I always used to really enjoy the chats with. You know, like she'd ring, we'd just, and and she's just a work colleague, you know. But we'd she'd pick up the phone, or I'd pick up the phone and we'd matter about what's going on in the space, and and we'd both, you know, whether a bitching and moaning or, you know, happy about something, and we'd have that catch-up. And then on the Tuesday, when I found out she'd passed away, and I'd had an email from her two weeks prior, the first thing I thought is, I'll I will never get to talk to her again. Yeah. And then I started thinking, what about all my friends? And that's when I started going, I need to start calling my friends. And sometimes you need something to happen in order for you to to realize life is way too short.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I had a similar experience just less than a week ago, where I was told about a friend who taught me how to fly, who became a friend, you know, taught me how to fly gliders. His name is Shameless. He's an Irishman. Taught me how to drink whiskey too. I was told that he was sick and was in hospital. I thought, oh, I've got to go and see him. You know, I need to go and see him. Two days later I got the call. And I didn't go and see him.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

You know? And you can't you can't give that back to him. No. So when I guess if this podcast has a moral connection, it's when you begin to wonder about something, should you ring somebody. That's the moment to ring. I remember my dad when he taught me how to fly powder planes, and he said flying on. The minute you start to wonder about the weather, that's the moment you turn around. Yeah. That's the moment you find somewhere else. Because it can be too late very quickly. And life is like that.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Yeah, it is like that. It was sort of sort of slightly. It was slightly depressing, but also.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

So what can we cook on Mother's Day? We have to cook Mother's Day something on Mother's Day. And how I do that from Vietnam, I have no idea. But, you know, I reckon pancakes for breakfast. Pancakes. And you know, make them special pancakes.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

See, I can't have pancakes, so we have to come up with a different scenario.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Oh, we could put some ricotta cheese in the pancake. That'll make it taste really good and a bit healthier. Okay, so we're not pancakes. What about a good cooked breakfast then? Oh yeah. Right? So we're gonna make we're gonna have grilled tomatoes or tomatoes cooked in the oven so you cut your tomato in half. And as the weather's getting colder, the tomatoes aren't quite as good. But you know, a little drizzle of olive oil on there, touch of salt and pepper, find some herbs that you got in your jar and you draw, sprinkle some of those over the top, drop a balsamic. So bit of olive oil, a little bit of salt and pepper, some herbs on there, some cracked pepper, and then grill, put them in the oven. Quite a hot oven, sort of 185 degrees, and cook them until they're sort of wilted and not looking so sharp, and they will taste amazing. So therefore, you know, because how often do we go to a cafe and they serve a tomato on their big breakfast and it's got it's half wore, there's no salt or pepper on it. It's like epic fail. And then find some good bacon. Go out there and get something that's got no nitrates, and if it's for your mum, take the bake the rind off so that it's not getting stuck in her teeth and bake it on a tray in the oven when you're cooking your tomatoes on a bit of grease sprit paper so you don't get splatters going everywhere. Take it out, you've got crispy bacon. Go to your local butcher, buy a sausage that you think your mum will like. We've had some pretty good sausages.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

Oh, we've had some decent sausages, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Those Toulouse sausages. What about those? There was the Big Mac sausage that we had? That was actually great.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Is it a lasagna sausage as well?

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Oh, yeah, lasagna sausage, jalapeno and cheese, whatever. But go to your butcher, support your local butcher, and buy a nice sausage and cook those at the same time you're cooking your bacon. And then it's the eggs, right? Oh yeah. Are you a scrambled girl, you poached, what are you from?

SPEAKER_00 26:29

It depends on the day. Like some days I'm like keen for a boiled egg, then I want a scrambled egg, then I want an omelette, then I want like it's yeah, I I'm just happy with any eggs.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

I like scrambled. And if anybody out there wants to see a good scrambled recipe, I've got a video on YouTube where I do four different types of scrambled eggs, from really creamy to I actually did American scrambled eggs because they do them differently. I call them the trump eggs. The trump eggs. That that's a short got a little video of how to cook scrambled eggs if you like that. And if you're poaching your eggs, then you know you don't want to put salt in your water. Do not put salt in water. And you only want to put vinegar in the water if your egg is old, if it's fresh. And how do you you don't need to put vinegar in. Yeah. The the vinegar sort of helps set the albion, the white of the egg, if it's a little bit older. So you can check to see whether your egg's fresh by getting a glass of water and drop your whole egg in there to spin the shell. And hopefully it sinks right to the bottom. That's a fresh egg. No vinegar in your water. If it floats like up halfway, that's when you need vinegar in your water. If it floats above halfway, then you've got an old egg thrown away. Yeah. You're not eating enough. Don't eat that egg. And eggs are good for you. And then for the bread, you know, the toast, go to a bakery and buy something that's uh good and just a little bit different. Yeah. And a little bit of olive oil on it, and then whip out to the barbecue and grill it. Yeah. And then put all of those things on top. Oh, mushrooms, green mushrooms. Oh, mushrooms. I love olive mushrooms. So mushrooms, so we slice the mushrooms up, and that's the only thing you're going to do in the pan, right? Is some olive oil in there, touch of garlic, throw your mushrooms in. Of course, I'd put my Italian seasoning in mine, but whatever herbs you got in your drawer, throw some on, some crack pepper and some salt, a little bit of salt. Oh, yeah. And then taste one before you put it on the plate just to see if you want to add more salt to it. Because we're not one I I don't think anybody that listens to our podcast out there is one of those people that seasons food without tasting it first. Yeah. You know, when you serve food, I used to hate that in a restaurant. When you know you'd serve up food and then just throw salt. Can you just please try it first? Yeah. It's already just perfectly seasoned. And I know everybody has different salt levels. Yeah. So you can add more, and if it's already too much, then have luck, right?

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Yeah, no, and I that I mean that's and that's a great thing, is just like actually putting in the effort to go around and cook mum breakfast. Yeah. You know? And also like, oh, take her out for lunch or whatever it is. But sometimes instead of because you know, I certainly find for myself now, I don't need anything. Like presents, that's just like consumption and you know, I don't need any presents. But if my kids were like, oh mum, I'm gonna take you and do this with you, or because the most important thing for me is time with my kids, you know. And it's like, let's go do something together. Or one of the things they do do is they often buy me a massage voucher. So it's something for me. But I I mean that's the thing, like just doing something, or you know, uh just and being present somehow. Like if you're away, making sure you ring.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Yeah, no, I need to organise something that gets delivered, like a little thing of flowers or something. My mum's favourite things are lamb rack as a real treatment. This is so expensive at the moment. Oh, that's insane. And the other thing is chocolate souffles. And mum, I'll I'll cook you the lamb rack. Chocolate souffles, okay. Yeah. I should put chocolate soufflés. You should. You should. Now I've said it. Because she will listen to this. Yeah, yeah, I know. She will. That's probably slow.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

No, she be it should be like, I want my chocolate souffles. Oh no. Come on, some beta chocolate souffle. So good. So so good. Well, I think that's um, yeah, that's been a very, I feel like a deep, meaningful conversation this week.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

And hopefully we've inspired people out there to be extra kind to your mum all the time.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Yeah. Yeah, not just Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

And even your dad's not just Father's Day, you know? Yeah, dads always get the raw end of the deal, I reckon. Well, you know. They always get socks or undies for Father's Day though. So I mean, those are essentials.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

I got a I got a coffee cup that says love your dad on it. Because, you know, every morning I have my black coffee. Yeah. And uh that was a really thoughtful gift. And the last gift I got is Hazel made me a pillow for my bed. Oh, really? And you you looks like you could buy it from the shop. It is so cool.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

And isn't that neat? Like you just and those are things you'll keep forever.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Yeah, it's the little things that it's the thought, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 31:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

It's not about the money it is, it doesn't matter what it is. Yeah. It's just the thought.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Oh well, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Well, you can't tell her because otherwise she won't she'll know what it is. So Well, I suppose that's it for this week's Fork and Good podcast, and you're heading to Vietnam, so the next few episodes are gonna be I'm gonna be telling you what I'm experiencing doing over there.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

You'll be in the warm, I'll be in the cold.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

I know.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

And it's a work trip, by the way. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

But I it's a pretty cool work trip. But I didn't get an invite, you know. I'll be in Wellington.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

I might be going a la later in the year to take a group of people. Do you want to come on that one?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Give me the dates. I'm definitely done. Definitely keen. Yeah. Um, but thank you guys so much. Happy Mother's Day to all those mums out there.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Yeah, happy Mother's Day to all you mums out there, and a special happy to my mum.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Okay, guys, we'll catch you guys next time.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Don't forget to like and subscribe. That's it from Kate Fenwick and Simon Gold for this week of the Falk and Good Podcast.