Eddie Rakanui on Love Life More: The Philosophy That Changed Everything

In this episode of the Forkin' Good Podcast, Simon and Kate sit down with one of the most fascinating people they've ever met: Eddie Rakanui.

Eddie has hitchhiked in more than 700 vehicles across New Zealand, met thousands of strangers, spoken on stages around the country, and built an entire philosophy around one simple idea:

Love Life More.

From overcoming self doubt and leaving a secure government career, to finding purpose through discomfort, connection and vulnerability, Eddie shares powerful lessons about living intentionally, building confidence, embracing uncertainty, and creating meaningful human connections.

Along the way, you'll hear stories about:

Hitchhiking with strangers across New Zealand
Being welcomed into a tangi after a family loss
Driving for a man who fell asleep at the wheel
The life changing power of discomfort
Why gratitude changes everything
Family, friendship, grief and purpose
Learning to stop overthinking and start living

This conversation is funny, emotional, inspiring and packed with practical wisdom for anyone feeling stuck, overwhelmed or searching for more meaning in life.

If you've ever wondered whether there's more to life than simply getting through the week, this episode is for you.
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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:05

I was at this event and I met this guy and he's got this shirt that says Love Life More. And do you know when you just sort of like you're you instantly warm to somebody and go, This cat's cool? Like and then so I met Eddie at this event and he's on the Falking Good podcast with us today. Welcome everybody who's tuning in. And I'm like, I gotta meet this guy more. So and then Eddie says to me, I like your attitude. You said something like that, like, I like you. And we swapped phone numbers, and then we ended up texting a bit, and then I said, I want to meet you again. We're gonna catch up. And then Eddie flew into Auckland Airport. So I drove out to the airport and we just had a catch up at the airport. And I'm so intrigued about Eddie, and I'm and I know a little bit about him now, but I I just knew instantly that he'd be awesome on our podcast as gold, right? Because when you meet people like Eddie, they're gold, and he has got stories. So I started telling you about Eddie. I'm like, you gotta meet this guy. I don't know what it is about him, but like, man, he hitchhikes everywhere, and he gets people in Bentleys and Rolls Royces pull up on the side of the road, pick him up, or in a truck, or a bombed out car. He says, This guy's just a fruit cake, and I love him. And he and he helps people. He goes around, he does a speaking circuit. He's just a legend. So you don't get a chance to anything yet, Eddie. It's a handfire. You gotta stay with us because this guy's gonna blow your mind. So you how did you meet Eddie? What was the deal?

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Okay, so you told Eddie about me. Eddie calls me. Right? Have a good one. Who's Eddie? Yeah, who's Eddie? And then and I answered the phone. It's like, oh hey, it's Eddie here. So this is this whole like Eddie, who is Eddie? And so we had a good yarn and I learned a little bit about Eddie, and then I was like, coming to Wellington, we should we should catch up. So then you chose the the place, City Bowl, and I was like wandering around. And I went down Lambden Quay and then came up the other side. It was actually just down the road. Nuts. And so good old Google Maps. So then I we sat there, there's so many people going through, it was so busy. The food was superb and it was so cheap, so fresh, cheap, amazing. We just yarned and yarned and yarned. And then I got home. So and then I rang you, said, Oh, I meet up with Eddie. And oh, what do you think of Eddie? Oh, he's so cool. Like, I'm gonna told you so. And then it was the next week at work. One of my staff goes, Who's Eddie? The meaning of either way. And I was like, that's a good question because we sort of talked about what Eddie does, but we sort of still don't really know who's Eddie. So who is Eddie?

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Well, I guess this is the thumbnail title for this. Who the fuck is Eddie? Eddie's taking away.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Wow. Well, that's what that's alright.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

You're like this inigner of everybody's just like, wow, this guy, Eddie is so cool.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

The training it took me to get here is crazy though. Like I remember meeting you the first time. So I don't I knew like vaguely your face, but I didn't know who you were. And even getting to there, I went to Hitchhiker to Auckland to get to that event. Blah blah blah. And uh I remember there was you, me and there was another guy there. And we were talking, I was like, fuck, I like this guy's energy, man. Like, yeah, I like this guy's energy, that's really cool. And then uh, you know, you get to that point in the conversation with yourself. So what'd you do? And then there was the other guy. Do you remember the other guy that was there?

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Yeah, it was Steve, and he he trains people in sleep and he does ice baths and all that stuff, and he invited me to go and do one of the ice baths, and I lost interest. I mean, I want to do one, but I'm too scared. You can do it, bro. I did one this morning. You did one this morning. Yeah, yeah, but anywho. Here we go, another person gonna try and do it.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Jesus Christ. But I remember when we were talking, you're real humble about what it was that you did. And then at one point, I don't know if you remember this, but he like because I clearly had no idea. And then he goes, Oh, this is Simon Golf. And I don't know if you remember this, but I went, Oh. Good for you, bro. I didn't like it. You know, I was just talking about the top of my ear. And then uh Which I love. That's what I think. I was like, man, I love this guy's energy. It was cool. And so from there, then yeah, like you said, man, when you went in and picked me up and we met at the airport, it was a cool moment. It was a really cool moment for me. And then I knew because he'd spoken about you favorably. Oh, that's it. Oh god, very favorably. You've gotta meet Kate. You've gotta meet Kate. Right. And then amongst all the the juggling aims that we're all up to, I thought, man, if I'm I know he's got a lot on his plate, so why don't I just call Kate? You know, and it was like, picked up the phone and that was and I've gotta be honest, that was, you know. Have you ever heard of call reluctance? It's a thing where people get where you're like, ah, should I call this person? Should I not? Should I call this person? So I get that sometimes. And that was one of those moments, man, where I thought, God, it's Kate. Like, this is Kate. And I'm shit, man. Right, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. So I walked away out, set aside time at um the home, the cabin. I'm like, right, I'm gonna call her, I'm gonna call her. Call her later. No, we're gonna call her. It was that kind of moment, but right, I'm gonna do this. And so when I picked up the phone, and and it was, you know, I'm like, oh man, I should have done this earlier. I should have done that earlier. Um yeah, it was bat next to them, all the things, and and here we are.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Here we are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Can you tell us about? I mean, you got lots that we want to find out about you, but I want you to tell what prompted you to just go traveling, but was hitchhiking everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Yeah. So I used to be, I'll wind it back. So about seven and a half, maybe eight years ago now, I was in this job and it was wicked business, like government ministers, NZTA. I don't mind saying who it was, because it changed now, but fuck, I hated it. I hated it so much. I was there for five years, and for the first three years, I absolutely loved it. What were you doing there? I was overseeing these national education and advertising campaigns.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yeah, and they were for cycling and senior drivers. Before I got the job, I hated cyclists with a passion.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

It's causing it. And and I always vote Cape Nice and very quiet, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

And I just think it was like us versus them kind of mindset, that's what I had. And I remember when I got the job, and then oh, when leading up to that, and then the manager at the time, who I still rave about, she's absolutely amazing. And she said, I said, You'll be handling the cycling portfolio. And I thought, I hate cyclists. And then that was when the penny dropped, and I thought, if I can convince myself that everybody should be on the road and they deserve their space, then I can convince anybody. I know that, because this is like how much I didn't like them. And uh and it was over the course of that job where I learned so much about behavior change and how to influence people, yeah. And how to recognize when you strip away the mode of transport and all those things, it's just a person. Yeah. And then that's what I started to focus on. And then, man, next thing you know, I'm on a bike and I'm riding everywhere, and I'm like, people should be doing this.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

You know?

SPEAKER_02 8:31

So we ended up having um. Have you ever seen a thing called See the Person Share the Road? There was this advertising campaign that I led, See the Person Share the Road, and basically because I'm a nerd as well, I looked at all the evidence and said, Well, how do you influence someone's behaviors? Well, you don't try and influence everybody, you just want to know who is the like target audience. You work on them and then it grows. Yeah. Trying to bring people with them like influencers, right? Anywho, so I did that, and for the first three years, we had this chief executive. And I never forget, he said one time, I want to be a world-class agency, but I don't have the dollars to bring in overseas talent. So I'm gonna build it from within. I'll I'll grow the team from you know, in-house capability. And I thought, oh, okay, that sounds pretty cool. That resonates with me. He was gonna focus on people first. And he backed it up too. And I just loved it. I loved it. I was that annoying person that would go to barbecues, and I'd say, man, guess what? We did that work today.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

You know, it was cool.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

It was, oh man, honestly, it filled my bucket out. I loved it. And then I reached the, well, we reached the stage where they changed the leadership, and then the new guy came in, and then it just the knock-on effect all the way down was there was a lot of people that, in my opinion, shouldn't have been in the roles that they were in. And the experience went from one that I had to loved to I just hated working there. I hated working there. So back to your question, bro, is I I made a decision, I was there for two more years, and I've got a really healthy relationship with death. You know, I looked after family at home getting palliative care, and you know, my culture's like I can cast with that kind of thing. So I'm really comfortable with it. And I also knew that life is too short to be unhappy. Yeah. It's way too short to be unhappy. So thankfully, with Debbie, my wife's support. I resigned. I had no job to go to. She was on maternity leave. We had just had our third child looking after my mum at home, big fat mortgage, two cars, Netflix, I don't watch TV, gym memberships, gonna hate going to gym.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

You know, all this stuff.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

And uh I said, I thought what's it all for? And so when I resigned, I I took a the decision I made was I'm gonna take a strategic approach to living life. That's what I wanted. I'm gonna design a kind of life that I want to enjoy with my family. Crazy control frictor. People could ask me and I could tell them where I was gonna be, who I was gonna be with, what I was gonna be doing, when I was gonna have lunch, what I was gonna eat, all the things. To your point, I thought, what's something I can do where I don't know any of those things. Hitchhiking. Alright.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

So you just went for it.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Uh like so I just went through it, but the reality was, like, like the behavior change, right? It was incremental. Like the seed was planted, and watered it, and I had this this catalyst of change which was leaving my job. And when I was mapping out like designing the kind of life I wanted to live, I started taking this picture of times when I felt happy, times when I felt content, and times when I felt enriched. And enriched for me is it's like learning something, or when I'm a challenge, or discomfort, or curiosity. As I started painting this picture of times in my life when I had these moments, and I thought, where was I? What was I doing? Who was I with? Why was I there? And then as it started to come together, I looked and I thought, fuck, I want to do more of that. I want to do more of those things. Yeah. You know, the things that helped me to do this, yeah, to love life more. Yeah. And so I had this kind of like compass. I thought, okay, what's stopping me from doing this? And man, it was me. It was all me. Uh it was self-doubt, overthinking, procrastination, feelings of inadequacy, which is quite big for me as well. Like even that phone call, you know, to you. Like, oh my god, oh my god enough to call Kate.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

That was a genuine But it's like I'm just Kate. Yeah. Like, I know. And that's just Simon. It's just Simon. You know? Yeah. We're all just people, and we get like almost like imposter syndrome. We've talked about that when we caught up. Like imposter syndrome, feeling like you're not like, ah, am I am I good enough to do that? Am I good enough to and I think that's like listening to a story. Like when you go, you know, what makes me happy? And I'm going through this at the moment. I was talking to you as we were as we arrived today, like just starting to, and we've even talked about it over breakfast, eh? And last night. Yeah, and last night. What do we what do we enjoy doing and what do we not enjoy doing? Because so often we get stuck in this mindset of like, I don't have to do that. You know, like I because it's just what you've always done, and then all of a sudden you go, why don't we just stop and go, I fucking hate doing that. Fucking hate it. So why am I doing it? I want to do more of that stuff because that stuff leads to the joy. Like doing the podcast. Like, I love it. I said to Simon this morning, it's so cool. Because I, it's like you get out of your normal, because I'm always just talking rubbish and shit these days, you know, like because of my job. And then it's like you get to totally move out of that, and it makes me think differently, meet cool people like yourself and like Elizabeth, like all these people that we've met, I just think, you know, that actually brings me more joy than, you know, some of the other stuff that I do. I love behavior change though.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

So how do we do it, Eddie? Because you know, we all do stuff that we don't like doing, and and when we actually take the time to sit down and think about it, like you drew a picture of the things that brought you joy, made your life better, gave it gave you more. But how do we how do we do that? Because I I do stuff that I don't like doing, but I do it because I need to do it and then I do stuff that I know I I I get a big dopamine hit probably from it. You know, I I've just been in Vietnam and going in because I got a camera, I get to meet the shit. I get to see the stuff that other people don't see, which I love. Yeah, you know that and and then when I post it, and then you go and look and go, oh, 120,000 people have watched that. I bought some joy to somebody else, that ticks my box. And we were talking about it last night, and I love doing that stuff. Or, you know, versus sitting and like I said to you this morning, like doing a gnocchi video, you know, I go shopping, I cut the potatoes and peel this and chop that and cook it all, film it, push play on the camera because my, you know, record on the camera because of my own own, on my own. I run round the bench, go rah-rah, rah, rah, rah, run round, turn it off, get another angle so that see another angle for the next step. Push, record, run round, rah-rah, rah, rah, rah.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Well, I mean, we're gonna change the angle editing.

SPEAKER_03 17:07

And so you do all that, and then finally you've got a dish, and then, you know, you try and get the gold shot, the money shot of the actual finished dish that you show at the start of the video. So then you go home and you after you do the dishes, then you download everything onto your computer. Then I spend the next three days editing because I'm a cook. You know, I'm not an editor, and then you post it up and you go, nobody even said thank you. I'm done. You know, I just want to do the stuff I like doing now. I don't I don't need to feel if I'm gonna cook gnocchi, it's because you're coming for dinner, yeah, you know, yeah, and I feel like cooking gnocchi, you know, and put a smile on your face. But so, but how do we how's the step? Yeah. Like, I'm your student now, okay, all right? Take me on a journey because we all do stuff we don't like.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

But and sometimes you have to, though. We all have to do things.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

We did a beautiful thing yesterday for Kate's auntie, who is does not have long to live. And she won, she was a fan of mine, is that right? How did it go?

SPEAKER_00 18:13

Oh well, she she's been my biggest fan forever. And then when we got together with uh and started doing the podcast, she was just she's on there every week, like commenting. She just loves it, she's so excited, and and she just she's and because she knew Simon, like, how did how did you meet and like all this stuff, and she's so amazing, she's like my mum, like literally is my mum, yeah. And and so I and and so I said to Simon when I found out, because I'd told you when I met you that I'd just found out she had weeks, and so I rang Simon, I was like, Simon, I just would love to do something that's special for my my biggest fan, you know, my auntie, and then she just loves Simon. So Simon, he was like, Yeah, yep, yep, let's do it. So we went yesterday and we cooked our lunch with some of her friends. Had a great time, eh? Like, and she was laughing and happy, and and I mean, for me, that moment was really hard because it's like it could be the last time I ever see her, but in also, and I was very emotional when we left. So um you're doing you're doing good right now. I don't know, I can feel it, I'm holding it back. But you know, the the I think I said to you yesterday when we drove away, I was like, if that's the last thing that I do with her, and it's this happy moment, that for me is and you know, we made it happen. And I mean, huge thanks to Simon. She was she was just so excited, and she had her blood staken, and she was like, Oh, the the nurse who came around, it was like we had this little party going on, and she's got all this like palliative care people coming in, and the nurse arrives to take her blood, and she's like, Oh, you know, Simon who's got Simon Galt here, like, you know, it's just so and the lady's like, How do I get that? And she's like, Oh, yeah, and just didn't, you know, and I mean that was just so cool. That was yeah, it was just so nice. And her friends, we had such a blast and listened to the stories from when they grew up, and yeah, it was very, you know, it's really, really stuff, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_03 20:26

Because it makes you realize that life is short, bro. And you know, it's not a just press rehearsal, and I don't want to wake up going, I missed all these opportunities. Yeah. I think I told you when we met, you know, like I gave up doing restaurants so I could be a dad. Yeah. So Hazel remembers me as a dad, not the guy who was always in the restaurant as the best thing I ever did. But I need to make more changes. So I'm your student. Because I think people are gonna love the I I bet you everybody that is listening, there's not one person that hasn't got something they'd like to change.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I found. You know, and through my journey, and I talked about the the you know, just the loss of confidence, the self-doubt, and like all those things. And it what I realized was all of those things were just setting a ceiling on me. So I had this picture of this is the kind of life I want to be living. But what's blocking me is these feelings of inadequacy, overthinking, procrastination, overwhelm, you know, like you know that phrase where you spinning plates. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Or juggling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Someone told me once, especially good analogy is that like think of the juggling. Some of them are cloth balls and some of them are glass. So you can drop the cloth one. You can pick from a blade and hold on to the glass ones. Like, cool, the glass ones for me and my family, my kids, my mum, like, everything else. So I can just chop it on put it down and I'll pick it up later. Which I I found was a useful analogy, but having like knowing that that was my ceiling, thought what is that that's gonna break that ceiling? What is it what's gonna push me through there? And uh uh it's well worn, it's a well-known, well-trodden road, but the like celebrity speakers, what got me in front of them was talking about this concept of be uncomfortable and grow. So be uncomfortable and grow. That those four words had completely overhauled my life and how I apply it. So the concept is this like I'll give like a distilled version, but if you think about any facet of your life that you want growth in or you want to be better at, it could be having intimate conversations with your partner, or better relationships with your kids, pitching a high-value product to a client, learning a new language, or just doesn't matter. Like every single thing I pointed this thing at, it just words. You you have a level of comfort doing that thing. So you have a level of comfort doing that thing, and let's say this hand represents your level of comfort doing that thing, and this is your comfort zone. This hand represents where your deep is uncomfortable. This space here, that's our growth. Right? Our growth will come from in here. And so each time you put yourself into an uncomfortable situation, you build up your familiarity with being uncomfortable. The more you do it, the more familiar you become with it. Familiarity grows confidence. The more familiar you are doing something, more your confidence grows in doing it. And it just keeps rinsing and repeating, and you become more inclined to take and accept challenges than you wouldn't have done, that you would have done, so that you wouldn't have done previously until eventually that is your new level of comfort. That's your comfort zone.

SPEAKER_03 24:27

I love it. And then you're moving up, and then there's a new uncomfortable zone. Yeah. And you move into that, and that's how we excel and get better and do things that we thought we could never do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

So that's what I did. That's what I've I've I've pointed that one concept at literally every aspect of my life that I've wanted to get better at. Um, you know, the hitchhiking, I I did the hitchhiking because I wanted to break that the shackles of like being a control freak. And eventually I thought, right, I'm gonna do this. And I flew down to Invercargal so I could hitchhike back to Wellington. And when I did it, it was just so far out of my comfort zone.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

To fly a far away from home and try and get back in the country.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

So, what was one of the craziest things that happened to you while you were hitchhiking?

SPEAKER_02 25:31

Oh man, well, I'll I'll pick the whole gamut because I've been in over 700 cars since then. That's that's only since COVID.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

This dude has been in 700 cars hitchhiking, beat that.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. And uh, so like from some of the there's side quests all the time, right? You know, like the last one I did, where was I going? Oh, I a couple of weeks ago I flew down to Queenstown and I'd never been on the west coast of the South Island. Oh, yeah. So I hitchhiked up there. And in one of them I got picked up in Hokka Tika, and I got picked up by a guy and Moldegar and really friendly. He's like, Oh, I gotta do a couple stops. I'm like, I love side quests, man. This is so far off my radar, let's go. And then we go to one house, we pick up these co cookers and and all this stuff, and and as we're heading to another place, I picked up a trailer. I'm like, bro, what's all this for? He goes, Oh, we're taking out to a tonguey up in Greymouth. I'm like, oh man, who's Tunny? And he goes, Oh, it's my sister's. I was like, oh, you didn't have to pick me up, man. Like, when did she pass away? He goes, Oh, last night. I'm thinking, Oh my god. I'm standing on the side of the road, and this dude's come and picked me up. No need to. Yeah. It's got this obviously this massive life moment that's happening for him. Yeah. And I'm gonna be part of it. And we go to one place, we go to another, and then when I next thing I know, I'm walking straight into this tongue, man, and it is like raw emotion. This is a for real moment. I'm never gonna forget this. Yeah. Like putting myself in this situation, this position, I'm I'm experiencing like just pure humanity here. Yeah. And man, that you know, a moment like that fits in, but I'll I'll live with that forever. And it was just such a beautiful moment. So, you know, I made sure I was helpful, like help around and fits to put things together, and you know, it's a moment like that. That's awesome. That fills my bucket.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Can I just say, because I think that's something interesting, like they always I mean, there's a lot of sayings out there, like people come into your life for a reason or a season, or you know, like there's all of that. And I, you know, I I'm a big believer in you know, fate and things happen for a reason, and you do have to put yourself in a position to be able to be open to things happening, and that's how we're uncomfortable, and that's how we still like with the podcast, you know, starting with a lunch. But you know, in my mind, I'm listening to that story going, you know, you you were there on the side of the road at that time when that guy's just lost his sister, possibly not coping, lonely, wondering what, and then he's just like, I'll pick up this guy, like just I'll give him a lift, like it'll give me some company. Then he picks you up. You probably had this millionaire's yarn about life, and you know, and that and that goes through to then you end up with a tongue, and then it's like again, everyone's like, Who's Eddie?

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Like, you know, it's just gonna be a song, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 28:46

Who the fuck is Eddie? Isn't there a song Alice?

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Alice is gone, Eddie's in the one just assumed I was related. I'm all the hongy person out another high. But that's hard, and everyone just assumes I'm like, no, I'm I'm just a bro that was on the part of his own in this moment.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

And yeah, but you were there for a reason. Yeah, I agree. Whether it's for you and for him, or for him, or whatever that moment and reason.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

A tonguey is what they would know as a funeral, yeah. And when you talk about the homie, yeah, it's like the the kiss of the noses, right? And so a lot of our listeners not in New Zealand, so we can clarify that guy's narrative.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Yeah, and look it up, look it up, Google it.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

What about the guy that nearly fell asleep? Oh yeah, bro. In one of his hiking changes.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Your barbecue stories must be epic, you know.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

I don't even think my mates are I don't even think my mates ask me about these things anymore. They just I think they just don't care. Well, we're interested in and my kids like, whatever. You know, eye roll as well. So I was I use the hitchhiking as well to take off a lot of bucket list items. And on this particular one, I had never been up to Cape Budang, the Dang and Wild. And I went up there and I got stuck in this place called Tikal. Uh if you've ever been there, it's a beautiful town. I got I was there for about close to an hour, and then there was there's no more cars, and there's a 70-year-old couple. Actually, man, I'm gonna show you a photo of them. Oh, I'm just gonna stick off camera. Here you go. I wanted to show you this photo.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Is this your book? This is my book. And I've been dying to see it. Walked in and I'm like, I wanna know what's the network.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

There's this couple, this seven-year-old couple, and they pick me up, and Mike and Stella, and they take me up to Cabrina, and then we we leave there, and as we're heading back, Mike's driving, and I'm sitting in the back, and I look, I'm looking in the rearview mirror, and I can see blinking and his they're getting really long. You know when you get tired and you just see those blinks just get longer and longer? And I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, oh shit, I'm gonna need to do something. It's not my job to tell a person how to drive. Yeah. But it is my job to drive. Yeah. I've got to do one thing if I keep it as a bare arch minimum, stay on the line, get home to the family. And I just said to him, Oh, and I told a small white light, I said, uh, I drive trucks back in monitor. I used to. I drive trucks in one of the I can drive. Do you want me to drive? Yes. Yeah, yes, please. He pulls over where we shouldn't have. Because he started, he started swerving across the style, and I'm like, Man, I'm getting uncomfortable here.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Not a good uncomfortable either. And he pulled over and he jumped in the back, I jumped in the front, and so I went from hitchhiking to being the driver, and within five minutes, he's out. He's like, Yeah, fast asleep. And so Stella and I are just we just go on a road trip. And I just fake out because she's just like us, right? Yeah, she's you know, I realise she's just like us when she starts mocking me for how I'm driving. I'm like, you out, man. So then I take her for a real fruit ice cream, which is something I love doing with that.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

So you just left the guy in the back. We just have an ice cream.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

So I take care we go get ice creams, and during the course of the conversation, she'd never eaten a power pipe. I was like, man, you can't you can't live in New Zealand seven years and not have a power pipe. Just like sample one, so did it you know, not stop and pour the power pie, and off we go. I love things like that. Like those kind of psychoists fill my butter. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Because it's the unexpected.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

What's the flash star that's picked you up? Yeah, so we laugh about this because he didn't pick me up technically. There's a guy, Robbie Allen. Robbie Allen is he's got a massive following in New Zealand. He he picked me up in a hummer. You know what a human. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was in it's a pretty flash vehicle. It's a flash vehicle, right? Yeah. And I I was standing, I can't even remember the bloody name of the town. I remember south of Cambridge. He was heading back towards Harrington, and I was standing outside this BP, and I saw this hummer go by go past, and then it pulled into the forecourt. And I don't normally ask people in a forecourt, I normally put my thumb out because I don't want to like impose on them. Yeah, yeah. And but when it drives past, I can't see the guy, I just see the hummer, the truck. And I thought, fuck, I don't have any hummer story. I need a hummer story, so he pulled it over and he and this guy gets a solid moldy dude, like long black hair, gold chain, big diamonds, big rings. And I like him, I think, this guy has either stolen that, or he's a drug dealer. You know, I've been condescending, I've had my own bias. I get it. Multifying like that kind of card, I don't think he's stolen or he's he's a drug dealer. And I walk over and I explain myself and I say, this is who I am, this is what I get up to. I'm heading to Ragling as part of a bucket list item. Would you be okay giving me a ride? And he said, Yeah, bro, I'll do that. And um, so he went in. I think he had a fee and came back out, and then he and I just had it off straight away. Well, I was on fire.

SPEAKER_03 34:58

So had he stolen or was he a drug dealer? He was neither disappointing.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

He owns this multi-million dollar fucking empire.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

As you do. As you do when you drive a hammer. As you do.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

So I ended up, he ended up saying, Oh bro, like you're not gonna make it to Raglan. I'll drop your filth. My car in my yard. Take one of the cars, take it for as long as you need. When you finish, chop it back off. I was like, this was cool. So I took a van and I got accommodation transport.

SPEAKER_03 35:32

All in my and um What was it like in the Hummer though?

SPEAKER_02 35:38

But I'm not a car person, to be honest. Uh I get in cars, I don't even know what they are, and I get out and like I know I was in a car.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Or did I feel like it was a cool car? Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Well, he the joke being he talked me off, he picked me up in a hummer, but he ends up when I drop his van bat, he drops me off in a in a Rolls-Royce. As you do. As you do. He's just the trucking company. Yeah, yeah. Um so that was a like a moment. And one way, I love the idea of a value exchange. So somebody I I love the idea of just by being me, if I give value to somebody and they reciprocate that, that's really cool. I don't I don't do it for uh anything back. I almost no expectation.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

I'm just doing me, and if you decide to do something, that's really cool. But during the course of the conversation, he had a bucketless item as well where he wanted to because he owes a whole bunch of cars. He wanted to do a car show. It's like I'll organise a car show for you. So I did. Um a couple of months after that, I organized this car show. Got about 50-20 of these high-end cars there. Um opened it up to the public, raised some money for canting, which I've got a long history with. And had like a fireside combo, something like this, really. Where we he and I just sat on top of the back of the Cube and we just talked about our lives and what we get up to.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

Yeah. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Yeah. Again, there's a reason.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

Always a reason why you meet people.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Yeah, it is so cool. Yeah. So, I mean, that's just another example, right? I have these just so you got a photo book though. What is this? This is analog.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

So if you guys are listening, you need to turn on the visual so you can see this or jump on YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

There's only a couple of pages to this, but it looks a lot more dense than it actually is. But this was actually how you and I mean, believe it or not. Well, one of the steps between you and I mean, because celebrity speakers, who's the agency that represents are you I don't know. No, I know you should be. Well, they should be picking up, but anyway, um, is they I had I had to overcome massive amounts of self-doubt protecting celebrity speakers. And because I looked at the names of the people that they represent, this guy and this Graham Henry and um NanoGirl, who I'm a massive fan of. And I looked at these names and I thought, shit, man, there's no way I'm like, these people are, these people are, these are the whose whom, right? And I sat on this and I contacted them. Eventually I contacted them, and it took me, I think it was two years and three months before when I first contacted them to when I actually picked up the balls and said, I've got to do this. Like I cannot die, not having put myself forward because I've got a story to tell.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Like I'm living a life that I don't see a lot of other people doing the way I'm doing it. And I spoke to Louise, who's the kind of she's the MD, she runs the show. And she said, Yeah, cool. And she's awesome too, by the way. She said, Yeah, cool, come up. We'll have a chat. Great. So I thought, how am I gonna share my story in a way that just it's it reflects me more than you know, just one person in a suit standing in front of a lectin and they kind of do their thing, everything?

SPEAKER_00 39:06

That's just not. I hate lecturing.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

And so I thought, well, how would I share my story? And I looked at what I've been doing and how I've been doing it, and I'd realised that over the course of my life, just by being me, I'm having a positive influence on people.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

I know that. I know that about myself. The car rides, the gigs, the vents, the everything, right? Just by being me. When I'm me, I have a positive influence on people. Man, that that feels like a blessing. It's quite a superpower to have. If if it helps other people, and I have the potential to help other people, then I can help other people to love life more as well. And so that was my mission. Right. I'm gonna do that. Cool, I like that. I'm gonna help everyone to love life more. Yeah. This resonates really strongly with me. Because I can do this just by being men. Yeah. When I'm when I'm putting on a mask. Oh nice fucking.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Help everyone to love life more.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

Yeah. When I put on the mask and I try to be somebody else for someone else, it just doesn't fit me. And I know it. You know, I don't know if you guys get it, but I know I get it. I just I feel like I'm I'm in that play or something and I'm acting someone else's role. I'm like, this feels weird, and I like clammy hands, I just all the things, right? All the negative things. But when I'm just man, I'm just living my life like fuck man, I I can do this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

When I went against D. Louise, I said, well, I thought, well, anybody can have this goal, right? But what is it that makes me different? And it was who I am. And that's a sum of who I am. So this is Debbie. Debbie and I have been together since high school. So 28 years. We've been married for 21 in October.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

These are uh this is our tribe. Uh this is our eldest Maya, sister Scarlet, Tyson, and our managing director, Sky.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

What I learned is if I get this bit right, everything else falls into place. Yeah. Everything. When I do get this right, I mean it just doesn't matter what I try to put my attention to. I know in the back of my head I've got one foot here and one foot there. Yeah. Yeah. So this is why this is like fundamental thing. Yeah. We invest a lot of time in our family. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

We have to. Well, they're the most important people in the world, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:18

And it's also the most chaotic and stressful and anxiety and all the things, right? Like it's I remember the Brady Bunny. I remember the Brady Bunny. That's not what our family looks like. No, no, no. This is like the complete opposite. Yeah. Um that's part of it. Yeah. If I get this right, everything else comes into play. But this is also a part of it. This is our group of friends. Yeah. I'm very fortunate that we have a a large group of lifelong friends. Now, these most of these are taken uh like a couple of years. Every Easter, sorry, we we come together, yeah, for being here, 30 of us come together, and we will spend that time together.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Now kind of trigger warning for people is that nearly five years ago, one of my brothers, who was another mother, uh my bestie, he came to suicide. And he when it happened, if you've ever been through that experience, it just like all fell right out from you. Just unbelievable. And it was just after I got over the peak of my grief, I knew that there was gonna be a silver lining. Silver lining was sorry, I don't realize anyone knows silver lines, but silver lining is like no matter the negative. There's a there's a to every dark cloud, there's a silver line. Yeah. No matter the negative, there will always be a positive. And after he committed suicide, and after I recognized that there's gonna be a positive here. But the things are there were several. One of them was our very large group of friends came together and became more connected in a way that if I'm being honest, probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't have done what he did.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

No, it's it's uh perverse.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Yeah, it it brought people together instead of throwing people apart. Like sometimes in relationships that you get a disjointed relationship between two groups of friends or whatever, and that blows it apart. Whereas that one negative thing brought everybody together.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it did like all so cool. Man, it's incredible. Yeah, it's so unbelievable. All of us say, We love you. Like, I love you. All the guys to the guys, uh the the guys, girls, girls, girls, kids, everyone. Yeah, we hug. Yeah, you know, and we we give meaningful hugs. Yeah. Not just uh hey, bro, you know, yeah, yeah. And I've always been a fan of hugging because in my mind, if this is the last time I ever see this person, what a cool way of going. Yeah. You know, my memory of that person is all the hug. Yeah, that is so much more intimate and connecting than 100% everything. Yeah, you know, like, oh, good on you, mate.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

Well, because it's always like the handshakes, like you either get like floppy, strong, like, but a hug, it's like, and and you know, when people give you that hug and you pull them in further, they actually just needed that, like you know, they're like, oh, it isn't uh uh. And then you're like and they're like, yeah, that is a good hug.

SPEAKER_03 46:07

Hugs are reserved in my world for people that are special to me. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

You know, I don't hug everybody.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

I can understand that. Yeah, not everybody. No, uh people I are I want in my world, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

You you I give them it's a vulnerable thing to do to give a hug. You know, you're literally exposing like all of your body, right? Yeah, yeah. Just off topic, is when I did that hitchhiking session a couple of weeks ago, I got picked up by a young lady outside Makarora, which is between Lake Sawia and Haas. And uh early 20s on her own. Um her dad had recently passed away. She'd flown over from North America kind of to escape everything. And her and I had this incredible connection. And then at the end of it, you know, we went to a beach, we just did all these side quests, and then we had dinner together. And then as I said to my food well, I was like, you know, I'm I'm really thankful that she picked me up. And I'm also incredibly thankful that she shared her time. I I placed a massive premium on time. Yeah. And and you know, I I could you know see her and she started walling up, and then she just burst into tears, and I thought, shit, like, you know, everything that's happened, I you talked about reason. Yeah. Like I was the the absolute right reason, like the the meeting of us two.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Meant to be there. And I just do like a hug. Yeah. Yes, please. Yeah. Consoling hug.

SPEAKER_00 47:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

It's gonna be okay. Yeah. You're right. Um I'm glad that I was here for you at this point in your life.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

Well, it could be quite lonely. And she must have when she picked you up, did she ever say, like, I felt like I needed to pick you up? Like, there's a it's not always a one-way thing, you know. Like you feel like you need, like, I I have to pick this person up. And you don't even know why. You don't know why you are doing that, or I have to meet this person. You don't know why you have to meet that person, but you just do it, and then all of a sudden something comes out of it.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

Well, but yeah, there's a lot of people envious of this right now listening. I'm envious of it. You know, like I don't pick people hitchhikers I'm I have done, yeah, but years ago. But I tell you what, I'm thinking about it totally differently right now. Yeah. Totally different. Yeah. Yeah, it's a different experience. And maybe I'll love life more. Yeah. You know, which is what you helped with that girl. Yeah. You gave that special hug to and guarantee you she hasn't forgotten it. Yeah. Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

He became part of your journey of grief. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

Yeah. Yeah. Um so yeah, that was that was another one of those moments, that hug, and you know, the connection that you can have with people. Yeah. That, you know, that hug. When you when you hug somebody, it's uh you're putting yourself in a vulnerable position. You know, and that's what I do when I'm hitchhiking. When I'm standing on the side of the road with my thumb out, I'm deliberately leading with vulnerability. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

You're in that uncomfortable zone.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

Yeah. Because you don't know who's gonna pick, you know.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

You know, have you had a bad experience?

SPEAKER_02 49:31

Uh I've had ones where, yeah, there was uh there's three occasions, the Kate Ringer one being one of them, where I thought I need to intervene at some point here. So that was quite mild. The other one was Waipu? No, not Waipu. What's that um west of your way? If you get a Poka Koi, you go past Poka Koi. Waiuku? Waiu K. Made a guy and he picked me up and he was chaining it down the road. Man, I'm just thinking, I just want to get out now. I want to get out. And and I just I thought, how am I gonna get this guy to slow down without telling him how to drive? And so I said, right, the way you drive makes me want to change my underwear. And he goes, Oh, sorry, bro. I drive these boats all the time, and so I'm just really used to it, and then he just took the foot right off the pedal. Yeah. So I'm like, oh cool. Yeah, and you didn't need a new pair of and the but the the one way I had to intervene properly was a guy picked me up just outside of Ashurst, which is near Palmerston North, and he he was we're all on a spectrum. He was at the far end, and he at one point in the journey, he wanted for me to wind my window down so he could get the other uh driver next to us to pull over so he could have a fight with the other driver.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Oh yeah. I don't want to be in the middle of this. I just said how'd you get out of that one?

SPEAKER_02 51:07

I just said, look, bro, I'm not gonna wind this window down. I'm not about that. I'm just about getting to my next stop. And then just by saying that, I took the edge off them. Yeah, and then I would talk a bit more, and then it just said power down. Yeah. But that's been it. Yeah. You know, I've been in a a lot of cars, man, a lot of people's lives. People have shared so much life with me.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

Oh, I bet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

I bet. There's the what I do. Yeah. You know, people say, What do you do? Which is, I love life more. Yeah. It's the how I'm doing it. I'm a yes person. This is me. Uh you put something on the table, like when you did, oh, let you want to come on a podcast. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

So this is me being a piece of art for a mate's exhibition. It's cool. He rang up and said, Can you do this? And all at the time I'm thinking, fuck off. Yeah. Why am I gonna do that? And I knew because it was so far out of my comfort zone, I had to do it. Yep. I was coasting this radio show for a couple of seasons where it was like helping people into jobs. Yeah, that was out of my comfort zone. I had a mammogram done because and I the episode that you guys did we talked about breast cancer and whatnot, like that resonated because I knew nothing about breast cancer. But I knew, especially in Pacific Island cultures, that you just don't talk about it. Yeah. And so every time I would have a conversation with my auntie, my mum, my cousins, people just clamp up. Yeah. And I had this massive knowledge gap.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

So through a friend, I had I went and got a mammogram done. Well, because men get breast cancer too. Yeah, no. Yeah. It's just like that, talk about a taboo to uh topic. Yeah, but it's a real thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, men come and get breast cancer too. Yeah, so Dr. Monica Saney helped me with this end-to-end. We talked about it. Because I thought, man, I'm not the only person who has a vested interest in the health of their mum, their wife, their auntie, right? Yeah. How do I get this knowledge and like give it to people in bite-sized chunks that I would like to?

SPEAKER_00 53:11

I had one this week. Congrats. Well done. Yeah, went in. They're always cool with staff there. They go in and they manhandle everything so gently, and then you're just like, boom, and they and they try to keep your dignity and stuff, but it's like, yeah, it's just so important. I I I'm more than happy. I'll talk about mammograms, smears, all that stuff, because there's no shame. There should never ever be any shame about going and having things checked. And doing it before there's a problem. Yeah. You know, like that's that preemptive. Once you've got a problem, it could be too late. So I'm as soon as I got like the biarly mammograms, I'm like, yep, lock me in, I'll make that appointment, I'll get there. Like, totally king. And I think everybody, like, there's no, there's no shame. And just just go do it. It's just just millions of of people, billions have lived here, and we all have the same bits, you know, like so it but you want the idea is to survive, right? Yeah, so maximum survival chance. And I'm just like, you do that, smear, you squeeze that boob. Like, I'm just, I want to be here for the longest time.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

Yeah. Um, a mate of mine calls it a war on a fitness. Yeah. Just consider it your war on a fitness.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

Same with guys with prostrates, you know? Yeah, go in there. Yeah, I remember I remember like one of my friends said to me one day, so I went and got a prostrate exam, and I didn't think about, I went with a male doctor because I thought, well, you should go with guys, you know. And he's like, and then I saw the size of his fingers. He had like fingers like sausages, and he was like, next time I'm going to a woman. Like, you know, like like you see, you see all these, like women think that they shouldn't go to. I know I've had some of my best smear tests by men doctors, and they always have nurses in there, but they're gentle. Yeah. Whereas women are like, you know, whereas a guy's actually way more gentle. And I'm like, you know, I'd probably do that if I was a guy too. I'd go with a lady doctor instead of a men. Never thought about the size of people's fingers.

SPEAKER_03 55:21

Yeah, if you want to know why you listen to the Falking Good podcast, we talk about titties, the size of men's fingers, what they do with it. I mean, tune in. Everything. I love it. Sorry, just high deck to it.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

This is a men's group. It wasn't really a men's group, just trying to grow organically that used to run. Anyway, one of the many things. I'm gonna skip this bit. This is the the nerd stuff with the the public speaking and helping corporates and blah blah blah. Yeah. This is all the this is what I walked celebrity speakers through. Yeah, yeah. How I'm doing it. This is the book that I wrote, or one of the books I wrote. Hitchhiking in a life I fucking love. That took a long time to get to that stage for where I was comfortable enough saying what I wanted to say. Yeah. You know, because I love h I love hitchhiking. I fucking love my life, man. I do. I feel like a walking-talking advertisement about how I want to live my life. For your life. My life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not everybody else, but my life. Yes. So anyway, but these are some of the incredible people that I've shared life with that are picking up on the side of the road. This is Mike and Stella.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

So now we know Stella, and Stella's been the power pies, and real fruit.

SPEAKER_02 56:44

Mike fell asleep. Yeah, Mike, put on your mic. That's me. Um, just you know, ice real fruit ice creams, least dispatch, just incredible people everywhere I go. Yes. This is Robbie. Oh, cool. This is Robbie. Ah, this is a guy in the Hammer. That's right. Um, he's a classic.

SPEAKER_00 57:07

I'm looking at these pictures, Kane. You might turn the page up, I know them.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

So many people. I'm like, hey man, I'm so thankful that you've shared part of your life with me. Yeah. I really love it. That's so cool. And I I love stepping into these cars with no judgment because they're helping me. Yeah. They're doing me a favor. Yeah. You know, and by creating this space where they feel comfortable sharing their life journey and the stories, the secrets that people have told me. Unbelievable. Yeah. And I love knowing that I help them create that space. And you want to see what happens. Like they'll be driving, right? Like white knuckles sometimes. And there's always a cadence to the conversation, like laughs and then slightly deeper topic, and more laughs, and deeper topic, and then come out. And there's a point where I think, if I shut up, they're gonna say what's on their mind. Yeah. Say the thing that they've been carrying, and they'll share this the trauma or the thing. And then they just go. You know, and you just see years of baggage just wash off them. Yeah. Shoulders relax. Oh man, it's so good. Like I sit there looking like, man, I love knowing that. I could help with that. Yeah. Love knowing that. That's a cool buzz.

SPEAKER_00 58:34

I I just think that's such a cool, like, such a cool story because that whole, you know, sometimes it's easier to talk to a stranger. And I know when I met you, you've just got this personality that, you know, you you sort of gently we had a few laughs. You did exactly that to me. And it's like, oh, so we've been up to. And I told you about my auntie, and then I was in tears, and then like, we just went through this little journey of stuff. And it, but you're just the sort of person who helps people to open up, I think, too. You know, you have this real genuine kindness, genuine interest, gen, like, and you relax people, and I think that's a real unique talent of being able to get people to open up. Like it's like counselors in that. And like when you look at all different jobs, even nurses, it takes a special sort of person to be a nurse. It takes a special sort of person to be a counselor, it takes a special sort of person to be able to get people to open up and half the battle is listening. Yeah, yeah. We talk too much and don't listen enough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:40

So, yeah, those are some of the incredible people. How I do this, how I love life more is this. These are the keys. These are like the practical things that I do, the frameworks, the concepts, the ideas that help me to love life more.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Yeah. I'm gonna run through them quickly because I'll just go quickly.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:07

If you put gratitude aside, so gratitude is the undisputed champion. Yeah. Undisputed. There is nothing else that comes close to gratitude. But just for the purpose of this conversation, if you put gratitude to the side, then the next cab off the rink is to be uncomfortable and grow.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

That is the one that has completely unlocked my life. It is the one that it amplifies, unlocks, and brings to life all of the other ones. Yeah. Um pausing between notes, understanding how to pause, how to slow things down, how to be more present. There's a quote by Truman Fisher A pause is as important as the note. Yeah. A pause is as important as the note. Do as much of this thing as you want, you can be as high performance as you want. If you don't have a pause, at some stage, you're either gonna burn out, not enjoy it, get a sense of overwhelm, you're gonna lose that sense of satisfaction, whatever the thing is. And that pausing, even if it's just a breath in the day. It makes everything else that much sweeter. I'm gonna touch on two or three of them. Wabi sabi is a one that I had to really embrace. For people who aren't familiar, Wabisabi is a Japanese concept and it is the appreciation of the imperfect.

unknown 1:01:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

It is finding beauty in the imperfect. And when you are constantly telling yourself, I need to be better, I need to do this, I need to be X. Sometimes can't man. Yeah. I'm I'm actually really cool as I am. Finding a lot of love on that. Yeah. Yvishiva is great for uh overthinkers and perfectionists, of which I had a perfectionist trait. But you can just look at something and go, I don't need to continuously improve this thing. I don't need to keep improving this thing. It's actually beautiful the way it is. But sometimes it's a relationship as well. I don't need to force the other person to be more like me.

unknown 1:02:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

If I just recognize that this is a beautiful relationship the way it is, then this takes them even more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Yeah. Gratitude. Gladitude, man. It is the undisputed champ. Positive self-talk is another one. Self-explanatory. But silver linings is the one where if your mindset is no matter what the experience is, you're gonna get a positive out of it. Then suddenly you look at every experience as being positively loaded. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not just loaded, it's actually positively loaded. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

So every time I look at a man, something, something, fuck something up. I made a mistake, like a parenting mistake, they're the worst. Or in relationship mistakes, right? Yeah. With your significant other. They're just like they really wear on you. I'm like, what's the positive that's gonna come out of this? Oh, great, okay. And then I just focus my attention on that. Yeah. And it turns down the volume of that negativity and allows you to really amplify the positive that came out of it. Yeah. Whether it's communicating better or whether it's making a change, whatever the thing is, but man, that that has helped me so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

I just want to be like, you know, everybody out here, because I don't want you to give all your things here. You need you guys need to get Eddie to come in and do some chats with your staff and your like, or even just do you do like individual coaching and stuff? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

How do people contact you, Eddie? Because there's kind of a, you know, you're a you're a top boat that can help people live and love their life more, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:31

Everybody needs to know who Eddie is. Who is Eddie?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:36

Yeah, so that's a meeting. There's two ways. One way is come through the the channel of LinkedIn. LinkedIn, see my profile, Eddie Rocken. The other one is just call me. I'll put my number on the show notes. It says you know, I'm that kind of person.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

Yeah. You know, be uncomfortable and give Eddie a call. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:00

When you do all this, that happens.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

You help everyone. Boom. To love help everyone to love life more.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:10

That's it. With Eddie Rakanui. That's it, but that is a beautiful thing. I mean, I'm still going back to, you know, when you said you're juggling those balls, you know, and this is a short, right? For everybody out there juggling balls in life, you need to listen to the latest Falk and Good podcast with who the fuck is Eddie.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

And learn about glass balls and fabric balls.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:37

Because you can drop the fabric balls. We're all juggling too many balls in our life.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

Yeah. We need to hang on and not drop the glass ones, but the fabric ones, let them fall on the floor. Absolutely, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:50

You can pick them back up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:52

I love that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:54

Yeah. And the ones I focus on, the ones I keep in the air, are the ones that help me to love life more.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Everything else is noise.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:03

I love that. Inspiring. Yeah. Really inspiring. As always, being around you, just being near you, and obviously listening to you. Like you're a you're a cool cat, Eddie. My opinion of you has not changed. One eye open from the second I met you, knew you were a cool cat.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

And now when somebody says who is Eddie.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:27

Well, now we know who the fuck is Eddie.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:34

No, no, we we're grateful for your time and grateful to our subscribers and our listeners. It's it's you know, that's the why we have all these chats, eh, Simon? It is. Entertain people and educate people and learn more about ourselves as well. Like, I've learned so much about myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:54

That's why I love doing this podcast. Yeah. You get to hang out with people like Eddie. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, thanks for tuning in for another episode of the Four Hingle podcast with Simon Golden Cape with Fenwick and our amazing guest, Eddie Rocanoy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

Thank you. I'm just gonna give, like, you know, let's just do the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

This is a podcast you need to watch with this dude, and you'll find out who the fuck is Eddie. You will indeed. So right.