Law Labs
Welcome to Law Labs — the podcast where law firm life gets a glow-up.
Hosted by entrepreneur, attorney, Modern Law founder, and optimistic disrupter, Billie Tarascio, this show is your backstage pass to the business of law. We’re not talking billable hours and black-letter law — we’re talking AI-powered operations, next-gen leadership, smart growth, and real strategy.
Billie digs into the systems, stories, and shifts shaping modern legal practice—alongside law firm owners, legal technologists, and bold thinkers who are rewriting the rules.
Expect real talk about:
- Scaling law firms without burning out
- Leading with clarity, culture, and data
- Using AI and automation without losing the human touch
- Building sustainable businesses that serve your life—not just your clients
- Valuation, VC, and the art of getting acquired (or acquiring others)
This is your lab for testing what’s possible—then building it.
If you're ready to lead smarter, scale faster, and think bigger—welcome to the future of law. Let’s jump in.
Law Labs
Latest Episodes
Ditch the Billable Hour: How to Price Value, Not Time with Shaun Jardine
Value-based pricing gives law firms a way out of the billable hour and into pricing that reflects outcomes, not time. Shaun Jardine breaks down how solo attorneys and small firm owners can offer clients gold, silver, and bronze service levels, ...
Private Equity Is Coming for Law Firms: What Every Owner Needs to Know
Private equity and venture capital are moving into the legal industry fast, and law firm owners face real decisions about MSOs, ABS structures, and what it means to take outside capital. This Law Labs roundtable breaks down how private equity a...
Is ChatGPT actually draining Arizona dry?
Arizona water bills have doubled or tripled in the last year, and a lot of people are pointing fingers at AI and data centers. The viral claim that every ChatGPT prompt uses a full bottle of water has parents, teenagers, and city council member...
Adapt or Atrophy: Why Law Firms Have 12 Months to Master AI
If you are a solo or small firm attorney trying to figure out where AI fits in your practice, this episode of LawLabs (a special series from the Modern Arizona Podcast) is your starting point. Carolyn Elefant breaks down exactly how to begin wi...
Inside an Immigration Law Firm on the Frontlines of Chaos
Immigration attorney and law firm founder Hillary Walsh joins Billie Tarascio for a candid conversation about what it's really like to run an immigration law firm in today's turbulent legal and political climate. From filing habeas petit...