Law Labs
Welcome to Law Labs — the podcast where law firm life gets a glow-up.
Hosted by entrepreneur, attorney, Modern Law founder, and optimistic disrupter, Billie Tarascio, this show is your backstage pass to the business of law. We’re not talking billable hours and black-letter law — we’re talking AI-powered operations, next-gen leadership, smart growth, and real strategy.
Billie digs into the systems, stories, and shifts shaping modern legal practice—alongside law firm owners, legal technologists, and bold thinkers who are rewriting the rules.
Expect real talk about:
- Scaling law firms without burning out
- Leading with clarity, culture, and data
- Using AI and automation without losing the human touch
- Building sustainable businesses that serve your life—not just your clients
- Valuation, VC, and the art of getting acquired (or acquiring others)
This is your lab for testing what’s possible—then building it.
If you're ready to lead smarter, scale faster, and think bigger—welcome to the future of law. Let’s jump in.
Law Labs
Latest Episodes
Private Equity Is Buying Law Firms: What Every Partner Needs to Know Before Signing
Private equity money is moving into law firms, and legal MSOs sit at the center of the shift. Frederick Shelton advises law firm owners through these deals and explains what separates a strong offer from one that costs a partner their leverage,...
Trafficking, Title IX, and Platform Liability: Building a Civil Rights Practice with Caitlin Engstrand
Caitlin Engstrand spent years as a public defender before moving into private practice with National Injury Attorneys, where she now handles civil rights, sexual assault, and trafficking victim cases across Arizona.In this Law Labs episo...
Ditch the Billable Hour: How to Price Value, Not Time with Shaun Jardine
Value-based pricing gives law firms a way out of the billable hour and into pricing that reflects outcomes, not time. Shaun Jardine breaks down how solo attorneys and small firm owners can offer clients gold, silver, and bronze service levels, ...
Private Equity Is Coming for Law Firms: What Every Owner Needs to Know
Private equity and venture capital are moving into the legal industry fast, and law firm owners face real decisions about MSOs, ABS structures, and what it means to take outside capital. This Law Labs roundtable breaks down how private equity a...
Is ChatGPT actually draining Arizona dry?
Arizona water bills have doubled or tripled in the last year, and a lot of people are pointing fingers at AI and data centers. The viral claim that every ChatGPT prompt uses a full bottle of water has parents, teenagers, and city council member...