Frum Women in Motion
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Frum Women in Motion
Kayaking to Resilience: Maayan Beitsch's Journey of Strength and Emunah
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Ellen Z. Goldberg interviews Maayan Beitsch, a molecular neuroscience research scientist, histology specialist at the Weizmann Institute, and seminary teacher, who is also a wife and mother. Maayan describes how she fell in love with sea kayaking after joining a Weizmann team and now kayaks at sunrise with a women’s group in Ashdod, finding it spiritually grounding, supportive of nervous system regulation, and a way to daven while alone on the water. She shares that kayaking helped her recover balance after a stillbirth, months of bedrest, and a traumatic October 7 birth amid sirens and hospital chaos, and she connects kayaking’s “flow state” to improved stress handling and work focus. She discusses kayaking during wartime near Gaza, hopes to start a kayaking group for frum women, and recommends donating to Keren Shemesh, which supports Beit Shemesh families affected by the Iran war and missile damage.
00:00 Meet Maayan Beitsch
00:31 Podcast Mission Intro
01:29 A Pasuk in the Sea
02:06 Davening Dedication
02:42 Family and Career Snapshot
03:27 How Kayaking Began
04:27 Sunrise Routine Logistics
05:08 Ocean Mindset and Thrill
07:05 Gear and Sea Kayaks
10:02 Hashem in the Water
11:20 More Than Once a Week
12:42 Letting Go of Control
13:40 Kayaking During Wartime
14:57 Sirens on the Sea
15:49 Kayaking as Me Time
16:14 Loss and Bedrest
18:09 October 7 Birth Crisis
21:06 Kayaking Finds Her Again
22:20 Flow State Survival
23:51 Rescues and Training
24:24 From Control to Presence
24:58 Flow at Work Not Home
25:58 Brain Benefits of Exercise
26:48 Community Support Donation
28:14 Movement and Sisterhood
29:12 Final Wrap Up
Mayan Baich is a research scientist, seminary teacher, and most importantly, as she says, a wife and mother to her family of nine. Her work in molecular neuroscience shapes how she understands resilience, stress, and recovery. Once a week, she wakes before dawn to kayak with an all-women's group along Israel's coastline, using the practice to support nervous system regulation, emotional resilience, and a deep sense of connection to the Bore Olam, the creator of the world. Join me now to hear her story. As religious Jewish women, we're always running for our families, our work, our communities, and our values. But what if fitness could be more than just another thing on the to-do list? I'm Ellen Z. Goldberg, and on this podcast, we explore how movement can bring us closer to the best version of ourselves and closer to Hashem. Because when we build physical strength, we build spiritual strength too. Join me now for From Women in Motion. I am so happy to finally interview you after many, many stops and starts of us trying to get this booked.
SPEAKER_00Thanks so much, and I'm so excited to finally be on this show.
SPEAKER_03So, Mayan, the pasit that really spoke to me, it's uh in Tihilim, Perik Ayan Zion 77. And it says, God, your path is in the sea, your way is in mighty waters, and your footsteps are unseen.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely great choice. That Pasuk definitely resonates with me. I feel like I should even use it as a journal prompt to see what else that means to me and look up the deeper meaning of the repartion for that. Absolutely great Pasuk.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so Mayan, before we get started, let's focus the spiritual energy of this interview for someone that you're divining for, for someone that you're praying for. So share with us the name of somebody that you're jobing for.
SPEAKER_02Sure. Actually, it's the Yarissa my Safta, and she was the one who kind of raised me. I feel immediately about myself, and she's the one who really guided me throughout my whole living here and being a mother and everything. And her name is Violet Bajanet.
SPEAKER_03Violet Bajanet. Oh, her nishama should have an aliyah, your special softa. So, Mayan, you are a very busy woman. Tell us about yourself.
SPEAKER_02Marital status kids work. I am a mother, I'm a wife to uh wonderful heart and bend and mother of seven children, and I work in the molecular neuroscience division of Weizmen, also brain scientist as a histology specialist, and I teach a seminary once a week. What's your education background? I have a bachelor's in my bathlite. Which is uh let's see if I can translate it a laboratory, medical laboratory degree.
SPEAKER_03Wow, and you did your degrees in Hebrew? Yeah, yeah, I did in here. Wow, amazing. So you have a very interesting relationship with exercise, and your way that you exercise is, I think, beyond cool. Share with us about what you do and how you started. So I'm in love with kayaking.
SPEAKER_02And it's basically one day my boss was like, You want to join the Whitesman kayaking team? And I was like, eh, no, maybe okay, I'll give it a try. They wake up at 5:30 in the morning and you go to the Astro Beach and you go into the water. I've never been in the sea, and you kayak like away from shore, kilometers away from shore. And then I fell in love right away. And she's like, by the way, there's also a women's group. I was like, Oh, I would rather join now. So every Friday at sunrise, there's a women's kayaking group on Ash Dog.
SPEAKER_03I can't believe they do it on Friday.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that's the only time they invited the like spots available for their tiex.
SPEAKER_03How does that work for you fitting in your shop as preparations? Are you tired when you come home? Are you energized? Oh, I'm I'm exhilarated.
SPEAKER_02I'm totally exhilarated. Like on days I don't go, I don't really function well because I'm depleted, which doesn't make sense, but so you meet at 5 30?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And what time do you have to get up to get to Ashdode at 5 30? 4 45. Oh wow. I guess there's no traffic at that time.
SPEAKER_02No, there's no traffic. It takes 30 minutes to get there.
SPEAKER_03And how long do you ladies go out for? An hour and a half. Just straight out for like five minutes and then straight back for 45 minutes?
SPEAKER_02Yes. And what's crazy is you at one point you don't know where you are. Like you can't see the shore. And sometimes you even see dolphins, sometimes you even see sea turtles. I'm waiting to see a whale, but I don't know if they exist in the Mediterranean. I'm not sure. And you're just alone. And because, especially in the winter, there's no room for anything else in your head because the sea demands your full attention, and it's not like running where you know where you're going, and the road, the road doesn't shift and change its mood. The road you're running, you know where it's going. But the sea will be calm, but it has a mind of its own. And all of a sudden it'll be rough and then silent and then not rough. And then you can actually ride the waves, which is crazy. That's the first day I went, it was stormy. And the instructor's like, okay, you're new, you're not coming out with us. And I was like, I've lit in a horse, I'm a Texas girl. I can handle it, I can ride, I like you know, ride a horse, riding waves. It's not it similar. So they're like, okay, fine, you can try it. And then I fell in love. I was like, this is amazing. They're like, most people freak out because I fell out. I fell out in the middle of the mission. I was riding the wave and I don't really know what I was doing because with my brace time and I fall out, and you have this whole maneuver. You they didn't teach me yet how to get back in, but we figured it out, and it was so exhilarating. I was love at first ride.
SPEAKER_03And I gave it kind of Whoa, I'm kind of freaked out for you though that you fell out your very first time in stormy season. Do you know how to swim?
SPEAKER_02Well, you have safety gear on and you have two among the same, like one in the front and one in the back. And I told them I can swim. They gave me like a 45-minute crash course of how to manipulate the kayak. And but they didn't tell me how to get back in.
SPEAKER_03Oh well, I know nothing about kayaking. How many women are there in the kayak?
SPEAKER_02There's about like between 10 and 17, depending on the weather. Some people don't like coming out in the cold. And interestingly, there most of them are over 50. I'm the youngest one.
SPEAKER_03That's because it's a very long-impact sport. There's between 10 and 17 women in how many kayaks? They have like 20 kayaks.
SPEAKER_02They have like a nice uh um, how do you say in English? Like a shelter, but not not this kind of shelter. Like a boathouse?
SPEAKER_03A shed? Oh, shed, okay. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02They have like a shed with lots of their kayaks.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so each woman goes in a kayak by herself.
SPEAKER_02Is that one kayak, one kayak per person, yeah? Okay, it's a sea kayak, it's very, very long. It's it's like double my height. It's very long, they're like very spitzy at the end because they need to be able to cut the waves. It's not like a river canoe, which is kind of like spouter and shorter. It's very long, very spitzy, like pointed, and they're very specific for sea kayaking.
SPEAKER_03Fascinating. Okay, and what does one wear to go to sea kayaking?
SPEAKER_02You can wear whatever. That's also why I like the sport because you you have this skirt, like a boat skirt. You seal in the kayak, so as you flip or fall out, the water doesn't come in and save you.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so it's full.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's like you have this like rubber skirt that's on the kayak, and then you just wear your clothes and you have a life vest and yeah, a helmet because when it's really uh stormy, you don't want to fall and crash your head into a rock.
SPEAKER_03So you did this one time, you fell in love with it, even though you fell out and it was stormy, cold, yet weather.
SPEAKER_02It was exhilarating, it was so exhilarating, and I just loved how you couldn't think about anything else.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I love that. You know, as a scientist, and I see your WhatsApp statuses, and you're thinking big, complex, complicated thoughts all day and trying to translate that into data. And I love that this is just you, the ocean, Hashem, your kayak. That's it. Nothing else.
SPEAKER_02There's nothing else. There's nothing else, and also there's the beauty aspect of it. That the ocean is immensely beautiful and scary, and you see the sun rising. It's just all these components together. It's the most i i can't explain it to you. Have to do it. You should come with me Friday morning.
SPEAKER_03I'm slightly terrified of all of the things you're telling me, but it does sound if the sunrise over a sh do that I'd be into. Well, go in the summer ones. It's very rare to have uh stormy waves. Okay, maybe we'll talk. Maybe. So do you feel like your relationship with Hashem has changed or deepened from doing this? Yes.
SPEAKER_02But what the the main thing, because I'm someone who's always moved. I wake up, I take care of the kids, I put them to school, I go to work, I come back, take care of the kids. Then sometimes I go back to work again at night or teach at night. I am constantly busy. That's kind of my default. It's my happy place because my board, I don't know how to regulate my schedule, just my personality. But at the same time, I never have time to stop and breathe. So this is the time where I stop and breathe. And I dominate a lot, actually, when I'm there, because even though you're with the group, you're not with the group, but they're very far away from me. Like they have to signal with their paddles to get your attention. Like you couldn't scream at them. So you're basically all then with a sound in the water, and it's deeply spiritual if you want it to be. It kind of just refocuses you. I love that it, I actually love that it's on Friday because then I feel like I recharge my full battery and I get to extend that to Chavez preparation and bringing in Chavez with fullness instead of depletion.
SPEAKER_03That is so beautiful. So it really worked out that the time that was available Friday morning, yeah, so much good from that. Do you find it carries you throughout the whole week till the next Friday?
SPEAKER_02Absolutely not. I have to go also on Tuesdays with the Whitesman kayaking team. And it's so beautiful what they have. They're a very close-net group, and they've become really close through this team and persevering together through, I think one time they did a 14 kilometers straight into the middle of the ocean, which is crazy. And they even do kayaking trips outside of Israel. My boss, she went on a two-week Alaska trip, which I told my husband already that that's gonna be my 40th birthday present. If we're not dancing and giving bonus and the basement, but hopefully that will happen. But if not, I'm gonna be at that Alaska trip. But it wasn't enough just once a week.
SPEAKER_03Right. And that's also one person kayaks, right? So you don't need to only one person. Are kayaks always one person? I don't know, because that was my first introduction to kayaking. Okay, so anybody who's listening to this who kayaks, I'm sorry if that was such an ignorant question. I clearly did not do enough homework about kayaking before Mayan and I talked, but okay. But I'm learning a lot, so thank you.
SPEAKER_02Do you exercise on any other days of the week, or it's the two kayaking really kind of I I used to be really obsessed with working out because it kind of was part of my go, go, go, go, go mentality of like just do all the things, but it wasn't in a healthy way. I needed to be in control and it wasn't healthy. So with kayaking, you just you can't be obsessive because I don't own a kayak.
SPEAKER_03That's great. And also you're not in control of the waves. Hashem is in control of the waves and the water and the temperature and the sky and everything.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. So you have to let go. There's no me forcing my agenda on this. It's between family work and all the responsibility. Okay, also I have to exercise and be super healthy and be the like now. Here, you there's no room for that.
SPEAKER_03I love that. You totally found your sport, the sport where you can be really active, but don't have control. I'm gonna think of this when I'm running, please God, tomorrow. You're right. I know where the road is going and I know where I'm going on the road. So we've been at war for most of the past two and a half years. Have you been kayaking when there's been any scary war-related issues going on?
SPEAKER_02So you're near Gaza. So we did kayak the summer after October 7th. And it's weird because there's like weird debris in the water, and you're like, oh, that's from the Mel Salaman. You're like, I don't want to know what that is. That's really disturbing, and maybe I don't want to be kayaking here. So you just run away from shore because it's not deep in the sea. Like by the shore, there's just really weird artifacts in the water that are from the war.
SPEAKER_03Like metal pieces or body parts? Like, how weird are we talking here? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02You don't want to look, like, you don't you just there's stuff floating in the water, and then structure like just keep going. We're like, well, what is that? And they're like, keep going. So I don't know. And that was disturbing. And we did have a couple sirens here in the middle of the ocean in my souls. Right. Yep, there's nothing you can do at that point. Nothing, nothing. So you're just like, Well, hopefully they're not charging a submarine.
SPEAKER_03So could you see things in the sky? What was your thought process as opposed to like can I assume the vast majority of other times that there's an Azaka, there's a siren that you're able to be in a city?
SPEAKER_02No one has their phones out in the city, so you don't even get the pre-waring. Interesting. I haven't been uh kayaking for like I'm uh eight months prior. So I haven't been kayaking for eight months. Uh Beshatova, okay. So so I took a break, but so I haven't been in this current situation, but back like the October 7th situation, they thought everything was calming down, but then you'd randomly get those has the club from Gaza, and we're in Ashdon.
SPEAKER_03So it's a hot second away for those of you outside of Israel. It is really close.
SPEAKER_02It's very close. You see smoke, you hear boom, and it's more of that feeling of I am really not in charge of anything.
SPEAKER_03So it's what you like about kayaking, but more in a not so gentle way.
SPEAKER_02Yes, but I would prefer not to have that experience.
SPEAKER_03I really hear that. What do your kids think? You have quite a large family. What do your kids think about mommy kayaking? They they love it, they want to come with me, but I tell them not yet.
SPEAKER_02Not yet, because I don't honestly I kind of want to keep it for me. And if they want to do it, they can do it. When they're older, it's kind of my thing that I don't want them involved in. I know that sounds a little not so nice, but I used to be a workaholic and obsessed with exercise and then the backstory is I had uh um Ledash Kitan. How do you say that in English? A stillbirth. I had a stillbirth, and before I was on bed rest for six months, and the baby of life was always in question, and and it it wasn't alive, and then I got pregnant right away with my other baby, and I was on bed rest again, and it was born on October 7th. It was a crazy story, so all that happened, and I lost all my strength. And this is someone I was running 5k every day in 23 minutes. I was running, and although I was working like crazy, I had a really, really great job, financially amazing what people dream about. And I was teaching a seminary and supporting like my husband and Cole, which was my ideal, and then this happened, and you had to stop. I couldn't, I couldn't go back to running once you're on bed rest for muscle atrophies after three days. It's not fair, it's really not fair. So I had to find something that was low impact and gave me that outlet I needed, and that's what kayaking gave me. And I want that to be my thing, not something I do with the kids, which I do a lot with the kids. That's why I need my kayaking.
SPEAKER_03A hundred percent. I was actually thinking that, especially with a big family, you need you time. If you don't carve it out for yourself, it's nobody's gonna hand it to you, especially not your kids, or say, Oh mommy, why don't you go take some time for yourself, Ima? That would really be a great idea. Said no child ever. What a journey you've been on. So you were on bed rest six months with your child whose life was in question, and you had a stillbirth. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_02And then my other baby was he was born on October 7th. It's it's a crazy story. I had a placenta abruption at 35 weeks. And now it's on October 7th. Uh and we came in.
SPEAKER_03Because and to interrupt an abruption is a potentially life-ending complication as a nurse. You just you cannot underestimate how very serious this is. Okay, so Mayan, please continue.
SPEAKER_02I found out afterwards the mortality rate of women is basically from this like afterbirth. So I had a placent abruption, 35 weeks. The sirens are going off. I'm in our MOMAD. My husband is at shoal. And my oldest, she was 14 at the time, she sees the situation and she's like, Molly, I need to go get help. In my head, I was like, okay, something's happening, but I didn't realize how dangerous it was. Also, I heard the the sirens, which sounded more dangerous. So she's like, no, I'm gonna go get Tati. Okay, you can go get Tati. And he came, assessed the situation, called Mara right away. And Mata's like, we might be a while because there's something big happened. Like big, like something that's never happened before. So our ambulance, we had to stop him aside a couple times. Our ambulance finally gets Tadas and Karen, but then we get screamed at by uh Masok, which is helicopters. Helicopters are like telling us to move the ambulance miad, because they're bringing in wounded soldiers from the south. So I just got dropped out by myself. Oh my gosh. Okay, it was bad. So I'm pushed to the side and they're triaging all these soldiers that are missing limbs that looked more dead than alive, unfortunately. And and then someone finally said, Why are you here? And I was like, I'm bleeding. And then the doctor's like, I'm not sure you have so much time. Go upstairs. So I go upstairs, but then they're like, We turned all the labor and delivery rooms to surgery rooms and like emergency ORs, and you're walking, so go away. So I go back downstairs, and that doctor, she saved me. She's like, Tell the doctor to call me. You need to be induced right now. So I go back upstairs, and the doctor's like, You again? I told you you're walking. And he shows me the soldier who doesn't look like he's gonna walk again. He's like, He needs me more than you. So I was okay. Can you call this doctor? And he calls her and he's like, Oh, okay. And he puts me on pitocin. They pop my water, it's all this is like very graphic. My water was all blood, and then I pass out, and I wake up October 8th without a baby. So I thought he died, just like the other one. But he was fine. I mean, not fine, he was in the pit queue upstairs, and I was told he was brain dead and he's never gonna make it. And in the end, Hashem's in charge and he's totally fine. I can send you pictures. He's delicious. My young. Oh. After that, three months after, I needed to get back to myself because it was too much. I thought the world was over, the same, everything was over. I was like, I don't care. I'm gonna start running again. I thought I could start running again. And then my body's like, no, you cannot run right now. And then I was really depressed, and that's when my boss was like, come kayaking with me.
SPEAKER_03It says really Minisha Mine, like Hashem, put this into your boss's head to say, why don't you come kayaking? Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02And I really feel like because what I gained from kayaking, everything in my life just started to have balance in a way that I've never had before. Ever, ever had before.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely incredible. Do you get together with the women on your kayaking group at other times, or is it just you see them before you get in the water and after, and that's it? So my boss. Right.
SPEAKER_02She's a really amazing person. And honestly, I'm kind of dreaming of being professional enough so I can run my own group for sure. From people.
SPEAKER_03That's so cool. So this is FWIM from Women in Motion. Maybe soon, please God, we'll see FWIK from Women in Kayaks. So when things get tough, when you're exercising, when the water is really rough or it's cold, or there's Azakot and sirens going off, well, how do you encourage yourself to keep going? You've got to keep going. You're in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, yeah, you have to. You have to.
SPEAKER_02And really, your arms are just on fire. Your whole back, it's not really your arms, it's your back. And at some point, you're like, I have to go back. And you're like, really, you're dying, and like the waves are fighting you. And you're just like, How am I gonna do this? And that's when you just really zoom in and get into a flow state, you say, like in neurology, and you're just there. That's what I got addicted to now. We can say that you have to get in that flow state, you have to be in tune with your body. And there's a lot of talking to shaman's positive words to yourself of like, you can do this, you got this, you can make it to shore. You can't not make it to shore. That's not an option. Like you have to make it home for shamans. You're not just gonna give up and just float to Greece. I don't know, wherever the water, the tides take you, and that flow state. I really feel this rewires my brain to handle stress better in real life. I really believe that because you realize that you have to learn to knock out all the distractions and get in that flow state and be completely aware of your reality at hand and dealing with the situation without getting emotional. You start getting emotional, that's not really helpful. Not gonna get to shore about during a tangent.
SPEAKER_03How did the Madrichot deal with it? The guides, is there ever a time that a person can't do it?
SPEAKER_02Can't get you train before you do the horror seven kilometers, you train and they don't let everyone go. Sometimes women really can't make it, so they they get thought it's really embarrassing. You don't want to be that person. They tie the kayak to their kayak and they're kayaking you back, but that's not something you ever want to do. And it's like the the kayak of shame. So there is a rescue, they know what to do if someone says, Listen, I really can't.
SPEAKER_03Do you find that you've been able to get into this flow state? First of all, did you ever get into this flow state when you ran? No.
SPEAKER_02It was all about control. And can I beat my time? Can I beat this? Can I do this? And I would clung home on a high, but it's different. It's different. It was it was more about me. It's not about me in that kayak. It's about experience.
SPEAKER_03I can't explain. You're doing great. I love it. You practically got me ready to sign up, which my sister is gonna just keel over laughing at this concept. But okay. So do you find are you ever able to get into this flow state at work or with with in any other time? Or is it really it's mainly in kayaking, but since then it's trickled to work, and I can get in flow state of work.
SPEAKER_02I'm in charge of three descent laboratories and up to 15 different projects. And normally I'm dragged here, I'm dragged here, I'm dragged here. But like, no, I'm working on this, and you learn to just quiet all the noise and be in that flow state, which has made me more efficient. Now, as a mother, I don't think flow states exist because you're supposed to be able to multitask. In motherhood, I think is is an oxymoron. Maybe you're flowing through the different things you need to get done, like also dinner, also diaper, also refraining a fight. You have to throw on something different. A flow state, by definition, doesn't work in that situation.
SPEAKER_03I think that makes so much sense, but I love this that you've been able to take this flow state and put it into work.
SPEAKER_02There's so much research done, how much exercise stabilizes so much in your brain, cleans so much in your brain, it stabilizes amygdala. You can control your body from the top down, meaning from the mind to the body. So it totally helps that flow of you being in charge of yourself instead of the inputs being in charge of you, because basically we're a machine, input equals output. So if all the inputs are outputting you and you're just responding to life, it's not really a nice way to live. But if you're in control, it's just so much better. And exercise gives that to you. And I shouldn't be in a especially for women, it's not a present, it's mandatory.
SPEAKER_03You need to take care of yourself in this way. I love having a brain scientist on this program because I just love everything you just said is so amazing.
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SPEAKER_03Well, so before we end, I wanted to give people a link. If anyone wanted to make a donation in your honor, what organization would you like a donation made to? And I'll put the link in the show notes.
SPEAKER_02I think every single community thing in Beit Chemish has been so amazing supporting families that have either had to leave their homes. There's so many, we have so many families that can't live in their homes right now, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_03Just for those people listening at a different time. So we're speaking in the second week of the Iran war. And last week a missile fell in a populated area of Beit Shemish. And unfortunately, nine people were killed. I think 40 were injured. And the last I heard there's over 2,000 people who are not able to live in their homes in our city. My aunt and I, although we live in the same city, we don't actually know each other in person. But I'm glad we're getting to do this. So, do you have a particular organization in mind?
SPEAKER_02I do. It is called Karen Shamesh. They're really helping all balls people who have been affected by the war in our community.
SPEAKER_01Also, they just recently deployed three shelters in public areas, and they're really, really stepping up and making sure that everyone's safe and taken care of.
SPEAKER_03And what final thoughts did I not ask you or did you not say already? Because I feel like we covered a lot, but I think you probably still have a lot to say.
SPEAKER_02There's so much to say on this, but I think the main thing is that movement reconnects us to what binds us to our body, to our purpose, to our creator, and why I want to hopefully start my own kayaking roach for women. I think the group aspect of it is huge. I don't think women are ever meant to do anything alone. I think that's really an unfortunate thing that society has imposed on us. I don't think we're meant to raise kids alone. We used to go out to the river and wash our clothes together. We were never isolated. So not only reconnecting to our body, but right reconnecting to other women, I think is extremely important. And it's it's not just an emotional truth, it's a biological truth. That movement reconnects you, it grounds you, and it gives you the clarity you must have in order to succeed as a human.
SPEAKER_03Mayan, I am so touched. This is the third time we've tried to do this. It was worth all the challenges that you and I both put in. I can thank you enough for your time and just being so honest, speaking from your heart about such challenging situations and about what you've gotten from the kayaking is so beautiful. And I really appreciate that you shared it. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02You're welcome. I just wish to all the women listening that they should do this. They should definitely do this. I obviously highly recommend kayaking. But they should do anything that can get them in that state of flow and reconnect to who they are because we're pillars, we're pillars, and it doesn't matter if you have children, don't have children, what stage of life you are, women are pillars of the people around them. And you need to take care of that pillar. It was really nice to like officially and officially meet you. Thank you for putting out these podcasts, getting women excited about moving and really interviewing such a wide range of women with so many different backgrounds, so many different ages, stages in life, and really bringing us all together for one purpose. I think it's very beautiful.
SPEAKER_03Thank you. That is so beautiful. Well, Mayan Baige, thank you so, so much for your time. Because I'm so happy we finally did this. Thanks so much for joining me on this episode of From Women in Motion. If you'd like a copy of today's show notes with links to what we talked about, plus photos so you can put faces to the voices, follow on social media or send an email to fwim613 at gmail.com. And if you are a From Women in Motion, I'd love to hear from you. Maybe you'll be my next guest. Until next time, keep moving forward.