The 10-Minute Trick That Can Break a Craving

When an alcohol craving hits, it can feel like your brain is screaming, “I need a drink.” But what if that craving is not really a command? What if it is discomfort in the body, a nervous system response, or an old autopilot pattern asking for relief?

In this episode of The Alcohol Myth Podcast, coaches Jonathan and Ellen unpack why alcohol so often becomes the go-to “switch” for changing your mood, calming anxiety, easing boredom, or getting through the 5 PM trigger. They share practical, in-the-moment tools for creating space between the urge and the drink so you can make a conscious choice instead of reacting on autopilot.

You’ll learn simple strategies like splashing cold water on your face, moving your body, going for a walk, practicing HALT, using the WAIT acronym, replacing the ritual with an alcohol-free option, and riding out a craving long enough to discover that it does pass.

If you are questioning your relationship with alcohol, taking a break from drinking, exploring alcohol-free living, or trying to understand why cravings feel so powerful, this conversation will help you feel less powerless and more equipped in the moment.

In this episode:
Why cravings can feel physical, urgent, and inevitable
How alcohol becomes a “mood switch”
The power of creating space between stimulus and response
Practical craving tools that work in real life
Why cravings rise, peak, and eventually fade
How alcohol-free drinks or mocktails can help replace the ritual
What to do when the 5 PM trigger hits

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Chapters
0:00 Alcohol cravings may be body discomfort, not a command
0:47 Welcome to The Alcohol Myth Podcast
1:27 Debunking the myths alcohol feeds us
2:06 Alcohol as the go-to mood switch
3:15 Creating space between stimulus and response
5:04 The power of a tiny pause
6:20 Cravings as a runaway train
7:05 Physical interruption tools for cravings
8:47 Why cravings speak through the body
10:35 Responding to the body with the body
11:33 Switches vs. seeds
12:53 Listening to what your body actually needs
13:43 Using HALT: hungry, angry, lonely, tired
14:17 Challenging the belief that cravings mean game over
16:26 Sitting with a craving and learning from it
17:45 Cravings rise, peak, and fall
19:33 Realizing you are not powerless over cravings
20:53 Ellen’s early alcohol-free beer story
23:06 Replacing the substance, not the ritual
24:38 Alcohol-free drinks as a support tool
26:04 Practical takeaway: keep the ritual, change the drink
27:40 Movement, breath, and physical state changes
28:50 Exercise and natural dopamine
29:42 Walking through a craving
31:19 WAIT: What am I thinking?
31:56 Final tools: WAIT, HALT, move, experiment
32:22 Send questions and stories to the podcast

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

How often is it that when that craving hits, we think it's our brain telling us, no, you have to drink and you have to drink and you have to drink. But more often than not, it's discomfort in the body, probably created by the drinks the night before, right? You're having that little bit of withdrawal, you're having that the anxiety that because your body's starting to release adrenaline and cortisol for that preparing for the drink that it thinks you're about to get. So we're physically uncomfortable. Our brain interprets that in a way that's like, oh, I know what to do about this physical discomfort. Drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. And it's like, yes, drinking will relieve it, but there are other things that will too, you know, that we just forget because they're not on the well-worn pathway. So it's like expanding our repertoire of what can I do in that moment.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Why does the world act like alcohol is the answer, even while it is creating problems of its own?

SPEAKER_01 0:51

On the Alcohol Myth podcast, we pull back the curtain so you can see what's really going on with alcohol and what life could be like without it.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

We are coaches trained in this naked mind and effective liminal psychology who fell for the alcohol myth for decades. Now we help people take back control of their lives by changing their relationship with alcohol from the inside out.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

You don't need to wait for a rock bottom. You don't need more willpower. You just need a new way to understand what you are feeling and why you are reaching for that next drink.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

So let's dig in. Because if you aren't questioning things, uh, then well, you're just gonna keep being looped into the same old autopilot patterns that uh may or may not be serving you anymore. The topic that we've got today is uh a terrific topic. We are talking about alcohol as the go-to thing that I turn to to shift my mood. Um, this is kind of broad, but one of the things that keeps people stuck in a relationship with alcohol that's no longer working for them is that they know that if they go to alcohol in the moment and they're looking for something, maybe it's to relax, maybe it is to elevate an experience, maybe it's to, I don't know, feel some kind of perceived uh discomfort or or maybe it's uh to assuage some boredom, right? If I go to alcohol, I know what I'm getting every time. And it's a very, very useful tool for in the moment changing how you feel. And it keeps a lot of people stuck for a long time. I know it kept me stuck for a while. So when we think about alcohol as this like instantaneous way to switch, wink wink, to switch my mood around. Uh, what comes up for you, Alice?

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Yeah, I think what what ex the experience I had is when I felt like I was anxious or I was whatever thing that I just was like, oh my God, I need a drink. Like that feeling of, oh my God, I need a drink. Like what I need right now is a drink. And it's just like, mmm, like we can't, it's we feel like there's it once we've decided it's inevitable and we're like on, and we might have decided that at 11 o'clock in the morning. We might be like, oh my god, at five o'clock, I'm having a drink. And it's the only way we get through the day, right? And so um, what comes up for me is that uh, and this is, I think this is a Frank Golk quote, something about like just creating the tiniest bit of space between stimulus and response is where we have the most control. Because when we just feel stimulated by something, feel triggered by something, and we immediately react in the moment by pouring a drink and having it, we're we're on that autopilot that you talked about. We're we're not thinking, we're not, it's not a conscious decision, even. We're just like reacting. And so the idea of like inserting some kind of a switch, some kind of a thing in the mix so that we can eke out that tiniest bit of space to make a different choice so that we can in the moment not just pour the drink on autopilot, not feel completely compelled. I mean, I used to feel completely compelled. Like once I decided that there was nothing that was going to get in between me and that. And this conversation is to like broaden the ideas of like, God, when I'm in that moment, what could I do? What is something else I can do other than pour the drink?

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Oh my gosh. Um, 100%. The I love what you said about creating a little bit of space, just a moment or two, even if it's a second between um stimulus or prompt to take a certain action or cue of behavior and executing on that behavior or running that program, right? The power to carve out just a little bit of space for you to insert conscious reflection or just noticing or mindfulness or whatever it is. It's literally the difference between living a life that is rote and that is on the rails that is uh we've been talking about autopilot, right? And living a conscious life that you're choosing, that you are an active participant in, that you are empowered to engage with.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Yeah, I mean, I'm having this visual of like a runaway train, you know, which is because we talk a lot about the well-worn neural pathways of our brains, right? And so we have this well-worn neural pathway that when I am triggered in some way, I'm I have a craving, I feel irritated, I feel anxious. It's five o'clock, like whatever the thing is that's like setting you off to on that feeling like you must have a drink. Like we've got this well-worn neural pathway. And so think of that as like this runaway train that once that thing gets started, it's off, we're off to the races. And if we can create just that little second for the little person to come in and put in that little thing in the train that allows it to divert, you know, yeah, and to go a different way. And, you know, so I think we can talk about really practical things like things that worked for us, things that we've heard work for other people. I mean, something is I was talking to a client this week and um, you know, asked her what is something that she could do. And she's like, you know, what's worked for me in the past is I splash cold water on my face. Like just of an actual physical interruption to just give you that like physical sensation of almost shock, right? To the system that allows just the ability to take a breath and be like, okay, do I want this drink or is it just an autopilot? And it just, you know, to get back in touch with my values. What am I doing here? Did I decide to take a break? Am I working on my drinking? Do I, you know, is is it really that essential in this moment? I mean, maybe it, you know, maybe it is like, but it we, if we don't ask the question, we never get to to offer another opportunity. So I mean, like a simple switch is like splash water on your face. I people, this was recommended to me, have a rubber band on your wrist and snap the rubber band. Just like there are all these little physical things we can do. We can like like this, the like if you can't see me, I'm like doing a big starfish pose, like either standing or laying on the ground, actually, and doing a big starfish pose. I used to do legs up the wall, which is a yoga pose where you scoot your butt all the way up against the wall, put your legs up, and I would lay with my arms wide just for like a minute or two, just to let my nervous system settle so that my prefrontal cortex could come back online and be like, okay, what are we doing here now?

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Like I think that what you're saying there about the nervous system is kind of the key to understanding the switches and like giving yourself a little space because when you are in the midst of a craving and you just have that voice triggering, you know, oh, you know, you need a little drink, a little drinky poo. Like, wouldn't it feel good to just give in, right? Like that little annoying, insistent, wheedling voice, it's not needing to really communicate to you in the form of words. You're you're likely having a sensation that you are then putting words to to describe and justify the sensation. The sensations first. And so what you're talking about with like literally physically splashing water in your face or doing a starfish pose or you know, legs on the wall, or going for a walk, jumping in the shower, all these things are communicating to the part of your brain that is the genesis of that feeling, which is like not your prefrontal cortex, it's kind of like your lizard brain area where it doesn't even have the capacity for language. The language that it speaks is body language. And so for you to be able to shift out of uh the the incessant messaging of the craving, you have to speak the language that it understands. You have to speak body language to it. And so um things that you can do, right? Like uh I really like you mentioned the the starfish and the legs on the wall. I'm big on doing some like tapping on your face and tapping on your forehead, anything that you can do to remind yourself, like I'm a physical person in a body, this is my body. And if you can kind of reclaim that from the craving, then you're more likely to carve out that little space to make an actual choice.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

That's so true. I love that. Like responding to the body with body, because it's so true. Like, we how often is it that when that craving hits, we think it's our brain telling us, no, you have to drink, you have to drink, you have to drink. But more often than not, it's discomfort in the body, probably created by the drinks the night before, right? You're having that little bit of withdrawal, you're having that the anxiety that because your body's starting to release adrenaline and cortisol for that preparing for the drink that it thinks you're about to get. So we're physically uncomfortable. Our brain interprets that in a way that's like, oh, I know what to do about this physical discomfort. Drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. And it's like, yes, drinking will relieve it, but there are other things that will too, you know, that we just forget because they're not on the well-worn pathway. So it's like expanding our repertoire of what I can do in that moment.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Yeah, Ellen and I, before jumping on, wanted to make this conversation very something that you could come to and get some practical tools for how do I switch myself out of uh the the feeling of discomfort, the the craving, you know, like how do I how do I reclaim control in the moment? How can I do that very quickly? And it's building off a conversation, a larger conversation around um switches versus seeds. And switches are things that work instantaneously in the moment, you know, you flip the switch and it works. And so for so many of us, drinking has been a switch that we can just flip, like the lights coming on in a room, right? Like, oh, I'm feeling XYZ. That's a problem for me. I flip the switch and now I don't feel that way anymore. And for so many of us, alcohol has been that switch. We could just flip it and it, you know, it works every time alcohol does the thing that we want it to do, right? We know what kind of experience that we're getting. Um, and so focusing in on in-the-moment things, we've been talking about splashing water, jumping in the shower, doing some um stretching, going for a walk? What other things can we do that are of the moment and responding to that like little that discomfort that we're trying to solve for? To me, it's like listening in the first place to what my body is telling me. Is my body telling me that I'm tired? What could that possibly mean that I need to do, right? If my body's telling me that I'm hungry, what could that possibly mean? That I, you know, am I mistaking the discomfort for something else? And can I solve the actual issue instead of doing what I always did and papering over it with alcohol?

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Yeah, and just having that like tiny bit of of a moment to to break the the runaway trains thing, is you know, then we can go to like halt, right? The the expression that um you know they use in AA a lot, and I and I found super useful. Like, are you hungry? Are you angry? Are you lonely? Are you tired? Is that what might be causing you and bored, bored is another one, like just that like little bit of like, oh, okay, this doesn't necessarily mean it's an inevitability that I have to drink. It's that one of these other things is going on. So let me try to address that thing and then see how I feel. I mean, I think what happens so often, I felt this, like I I think I think just addressing the mindset of when a craving happens, I have no control. When a craving happens, it's game over. When a craving happens, I'm hitting the eff it button or the easy button or whatever we want to call it. And you know, I think there has to be a little bit of an exploration and in this experimentation of like, okay, I'm gonna try splashing water on my face, I'm gonna try going for a walk, I'm gonna try legs up the wall. And we can see like, does it create space for us? Are there other things I could do? And then suddenly we can start to chip away at that really hard and fast belief that once the craving hits, I'm effed, right? Like it's over, game over. Because I believe that, you know, I I really did. I was like, and I sometimes it would be like, I've been telling myself I could have a drink at five since 11 a.m. So you're gonna tell me right now that I'm not gonna like, you know, I would get I get all up in my grill, right? Like you can't tell me that I can't, I've been promising myself this all day. And it's like, okay, but what is something that could just interrupt that? And and again, like we talk about here all the time, this is an experiment. It's something that works for me, might not work for Jonathan, but might work for Joe, right? Like we just we gotta figure out what speaks to us, what and and I I really like the idea of doing something physical because I think that it just breaks the neurological thing that's happening in our body a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

I was really resonating with what you were saying about the idea, the the unhelpful idea that, like, oh, I'm experiencing a craving. That means that I have to give in. Well, just because you've done that in the past doesn't mean that you have to keep doing that. And I think that even the idea, it's a good idea to like have tools in your tool belt. Like, I want other things that I can do besides drink alcohol that can help me change my state. That's a that's a good thing to do. That's that means that you're well resourced. And how instructive would it be to sit with a craving, to look it dead in the face? I see you, I feel you, what do you have to teach me? I'm experiencing this. What is it like in my body? Where does this show up? What stories am I telling myself about this craving? And then you're gonna discover, and I didn't know this for the longest time because I'd never ridden out a craving, but if you sit with and learn from a craving, guess what? 10, 15 minutes later, it goes away. Getting to the other side of a craving and watching it ebb away was mind-blowing to me because you know, I didn't have any experience with that. I didn't know they just went away. I thought it would just keep ratcheting up and ratcheting up until I exploded. You can ride out a craving and it can be extraordinarily instructive. I'm not saying you have to do it all the time or the first time. Have some of these other tools at your tool belt, but it's a good idea, I think, to make it part of the discovery process that is going and you know, getting curious and you know, questioning your alcohol.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

100%. I can't agree any more strongly. I I had that same belief. I was like, no, a craving is good until I drink, it's going to keep escalating and keep noisily talking to me. Like I really I thought the only way to counter a craving was with giving into it, was with doing the thing. And you know, and then it was explained to me, which makes so much sense that like everything in nature, what goes up must come down. There's nothing that can go up in indefinitely, you know. Just if you look in like what darkness turns to light in the morning, you know, the uh rockets get shot up in the air, they have to drop down. Like it's just there's it can it it can it physically can physically it defies physics and nature to think that it would only go up. So if we can have the patience and the curiosity to ride it out, like you said, and see and you know do it with a stopwatch. How long does it take? I get really curious. What's happening in my body? Like is it getting stronger? It's getting stronger, it's getting stronger, it's getting stronger. And then when does it dip? And when does it go away? And then when it once it goes, what does that feel like? Like that is one of the most instructive things that I did in the entire experience because it showed me that I wasn't powerless over a craving, because that was my belief up until that up until I started experimenting with this. I felt I I believed I was powerless once a craving hit. And I just want you to know that it it it it it cannot destroy you. It you you we don't have to fear them.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Yeah, I the moment that I realized that I didn't have to give in to a craving was the moment where I think I've got my first foothold into not feeling powerless as it related to my drinking. Because before that, I was just like, I'd had so many repetitions of trying to control it or trying to cut back or trying to moderate and failing and failing and failing and failing and failing and failing and failing. And then once I learned that it's um I think a craving is almost like its most viscerally powerful weapon, maybe like that alcohol can leverage against us, right? Like it just it in them when you're in it, it sucks, right? But if you can face that down and get to the other side of it and learn something from it, wow, right? Like you've just taken, you know, alcohol's most potent tool that it might use against you, and you've actually turned it into a tool that you can use against it. Like I know that you can't sustain, I know alcohol, you can't sustain this feeling in me forever. So I win, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Yes. Yes. I want to share uh an experience from my early that first 21-day thing that I had. I was a couple days in and I something had really triggered me. I think it was probably something to do with a family situation or something. And I it was, you know, five o'clock. I was in the kitchen. I think it was time for me to make dinner, which was a huge trigger. Just that whole five o'clock dinner, second shift, all of that was like so triggering for me. And I was like in it. I was physically, I was almost shaking. I may have been shaking just because I was so just like anxious and wanting release from that feeling of anxiety. And I had learned recently about alcohol-free beer, and I had gotten a six-pack and I hadn't really tried it yet. And so I was like, I had could, you know, I had to drive my daughter to driver's ed later that day. So I knew I couldn't drink, but I was like, I don't, what do I do? I literally I opened a beer, I poured it in a glass, and I kind of slammed it an alcohol free beer. Like I, like what I would have done if I That was a regular beer, I treated it that way. And I and I and then I was like, I need another. I slammed two alcohol-free beers in a row because it was also that physical. It was like there's something physical about the habit of having a glass, having a drink, drinking it. And I just I needed that still. But but so it just bought me this time. It bought me this time. Okay, I'm gonna do and I felt like I had to do something, you know, and and I did it. And I may have even haven't a third, I can't remember now, but by the time I I think by the time I finished the second, the craving had settled, you know, that feeling had just had the opportunity to rise and fall. I had had my slammed my two drinks, and then I was like, okay, now I can make it through the rest of the night. Like, and I wasn't too alcoholic drinks in, you know, and it that also was so powerful for me because it was like sometimes I, you know, I'm not I'm not over the fact that I need to slam a drink, you know, but it switched out the drink and it was enough for me to get me through that moment.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Yeah, I think that's so huge, Ellen. I love that. Like that's a very potent experience because you took the you took the most critical action, right? Like it's not, it's not like it's a problem for you that you drink a drink at five o'clock. The problem is that you drink an alcoholic drink at five o'clock. And so, what's the smallest change that you can make to be supportive of your lived experience, right? Which is I'm replacing the drink with like what could have been an alcoholic drink with an alcohol-free option, put it in the same glass, have it at the same time, drink it at the same velocity. Like I viscerally relate to the impulse to slam that you know first drink, especially in that state of high agitation, that state of high activation. Um, and you win at the end of the day because that bought you the time that you needed to be like, and then I'm okay. Right? It's it's so it's so powerful, and it it really underscores and speaks to all the messages and signals that you're getting from your nervous system about what it thinks it wants and needs. You satisfied the vast majority of them with the ritual of pouring it in the glass and drinking it you know aggressively at the certain time, right? Like you satisfied all that, and you still got to move your goal forward. Huge.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

Yeah, it felt huge. I I it and I I know there's people have mixed feelings about alcohol-free drinks, especially because some of them have like 0.5% alcohol in them. Um, but everything I've read in my own personal experience is I think you would have to drink 15 of them to feel even the slightest bit of anything, maybe even more than that.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

And so for I don't think you could in the time, like your body would metabolize the fraction of a percent before you ever started feeling anything.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Yeah, exactly. So I I I found them incredibly valuable. And it's interesting, two and a half years in, I hardly ever have uh an alcohol-free beer. I mean, on a Friday, sometimes if my husband's having something, I'll share, I'll have one. But in those early days, I had alcohol-free beer or or a mocktail every single day at five o'clock. Like I had to replace that ritual. It was important to me, it was part of my weaning, you know, it's like a weaning. And um and it was it was a helpful in that switch phase of like, I just need my brain needs to recognize okay, it's five o'clock, it's relaxed time, it's rest time, it's night time, it's but I don't want to screw my goals up. I want to stay true to my values. And so it was a very useful strategy for me, which I always recommend. And you know, everybody has to make their own choices about that.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yeah. Well, I mean, like, let's have that be as we kind of wind on this episode, let's have that be one of the first big uh action steps or strategies or tools that somebody can take from this episode. Anyone listening this far, replace the ritual, right? Well, don't replace the ritual, replace the substance. Whereas, like, keep your keep your routine, keep your ritual, have your glass in the same spot. Like, you know, walk in and go right to the cabinet. Change what's in the cabinet. You're gonna feel the the degree of relief that you're gonna feel in the early days from just not needing to break the entire routine and just changing what's in the substance is immense and worth it and can buy you the time to get you the reps to where you can start weaning off of that. Just like you, Ellen. When I first started going alcohol-free, I was loving those alcohol-free beers, right? Like, I just it really gave me the sense that, well, not that much had changed, even though everything had changed, right? Like it gave me something to kind of hold on to. And just like you, you know, this far in, I rarely have one. Like, I, you know, maybe with burgers, like, you know, summer backyard grilling or something, like I'll have one. But back in the day, right? Like when I was first starting out, it was most of the time, right? Just so that I had some kind of semblance of normal. Um, what other strategies, tools, takeaways could you give to somebody as they're thinking about how to practically implement uh the idea of switches in their life?

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Some of the most effective for me, and I'll just share those, and maybe you can share yours, and and and then we can just ask people to experiment, figure out what what works for them. But I something physical, shaking, jumping jacks, squats, something that kind of gets your physical body in a different state, like you're breathing some some deep breaths, you know, just like taking five deep breaths can can make a huge difference. And another thing that really helped me was like when I knew that that moment was going to be approaching, especially if I knew at five o'clock I would be getting a craving, like putting on an alcohol-free podcast or audiobook or something in my ear to sort of like prime the brain for a little bit of extra strength in the moment of craving, you know. But I I really like when we're talking about just pure switches, something physical. Do something physical with your body and just buy yourself that that moment of time that you can get your brain back online and then ask yourself, what do I really want?

SPEAKER_00 28:48

I love that. Yeah, I'll co-assign that. That's another big uh thing that I did for switches for me was like exercise beats almost anything, almost all the time. Like you can't help but to feel a little bit better if you churn out 10 squats and you know, like do a couple of crunches or something. Like you are just going to feel better. The body rewards us for moving it. So let's tap into that like natural dopamine.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

And you don't have to like plan a full-on workout, like just in your home, just drop down and do two push-ups, do do 10 squats, like something as simple and quick as that can change your physical state and and bring back this feeling of like, oh yeah, it feels good to feel good, you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

I think for me, this is kind of related, but a little bit different. It's a little bit less like physical exercise, but movement. Um, going for a walk outside, if you're in an area or you can get to an area that's nice to walk around in. Human beings, I think from an evolutionary biology perspective, are designed to traverse great distances walking. And there's something about it that just really puts us into a good spot. So go for a walk if it's at all possible. Like I'm constantly getting up, even in my cubicle at my day job, right? Like I get up at least every hour and I take a five, 10-minute walk around the building up and downstairs, and it just um is so supportive of like your mental and your physical health. So get up and walk around.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

I think the last thing is combining that that I was just gonna say, combining that with what you were talking about earlier about riding out a craving, if you can go on a 10-minute, 15-minute walk and just watch your body experience the like it keeps it gives you that distance from the ability to pour a drink for 15 minutes so you can watch what happens to your body, you know.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Oh, that's such a good idea. Yeah. Um, and you're gonna be in a better mindset, you know, when you get back than when you left, right? Like if you left because you're like, if I stay here, I'm gonna pour that drink. If you leave and take a nice little walk, you're gonna come back and you're gonna be feeling better. And you know, check in with yourself. Like, oh, do I really, really still want this thing that is gonna be putting me back on the train that I've already been on a hundred million times, right? Like, I don't know, maybe not. Um, another strategy that I love, and it's just a it's a really simple acronym, W A I T Wait, wait, wait. We were talking about that little space that you can carve out between a like a stimulus and how we respond to that stimulus. And wait is a great acronym for what am I thinking? What am I thinking right now? And that just it reminds you to check in with yourself. Um, am I frustrated? Am I angry? Am I hungry? Am I, you know, what problem am I trying to solve for? And is there a better way to solve for it than pouring a drink?

SPEAKER_02 31:55

Beautiful. I love that. Like a quick wait, halt, move your body, experiment, experiment and see what helps you. And if something doesn't work, don't give up. Try something else.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Yeah, absolutely. And let us know what you find out. Email us. Um, and we will look forward to continuing this discussion next week.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

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SPEAKER_00 32:21

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