Myths About GLP-1 and Weight Loss

In this episode, Rick and Greg discuss a groundbreaking 2026 policy statement from leading obesity organizations that redefines how obesity should be treated in modern medicine.

The key takeaway: Obesity is a chronic, biologically driven disease—and it’s being significantly underdiagnosed and undertreated.  

The new guidelines emphasize:

• Earlier and more aggressive intervention
• Combining lifestyle changes with medication, not delaying treatment
• Strong evidence supporting the safety and effectiveness of long-term obesity medications
• A shift away from focusing solely on weight toward broader health outcomes like cardiovascular risk, diabetes prevention, and overall quality of life

Rick and Greg also highlight a critical reality: stopping treatment often leads to weight regain, reinforcing the need to view obesity like other chronic diseases that require ongoing management.

This episode underscores a major shift in healthcare—from treating complications to addressing obesity at its root, earlier and more effectively.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:25

Here we are. Welcome, Greg. How's it going? Welcome back, everyone. This is Healthier Ever After, the YouTube channel podcast. We talk about healthy living, sustainable lifestyle changes, weight loss, and all things related thereto. As a reminder, we are medical providers, but we are not your medical provider. We uh offer advice and education and information, but uh certainly does not nothing we say here replaces your relationship with your uh medical provider, and we would encourage you to seek their advice and counsel uh prior to starting any weight loss program, medication, diet, exercise plan, uh whatever it may be. Uh that being said, we want to talk a little bit about kind of simple thing. I pulled out one of my a little article that I read recently, um commentary on uh the diet era. Yeah. Like the, you know, my entire life, right? I sure I mean I can remember as a kid, like there's wait Weight Watchers, and there's uh I mean name name your program or name your diet, or you know, and and the and the the keto and the Atkins and the like we bought which is now really just um now called carnivore or um you know keto.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Right. But it's it's honestly a really similar diet with um similar principles and another name because that's what five fad diets are, right? They're just they're a fad, they uh some people can find that they can live the fad diet. Um, and then there's the rest of us. There's a 99% of us that don't live in the fad diet lifestyle. We really can't. Uh, if we make lifestyle change changes, they just need to be gradual and more reasonable, right? Which is why we promote what we promote.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Right. So, so so whatever pick your pick your diet, pick your program, pick your guru. Um, and and there's good people out there, good advice, uh, and and and working on you know good motives on helping people be healthy. But this is the interesting, I want to read this paragraph from this this uh commentary. Uh it says when it comes to weight loss research, given that there isn't a single study among the thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of diet studies published these past 100 years that proves a specific approach will lead the average participant to maintain more than a 5% weight loss for longer than a few years. And in the face of medications with an average sustained loss of greater than 25%, at some point, journals won't care whether or not keto proved itself in a non-clinically meaningful way to be superior to a low-fat diet over six months' time. Instead, weight loss researchers focus probably will need to shift to exploring the impact of different diets on obesity, medications, efficacy, and side effects, as well as paying more attention to the impact that their stuff their studied diets have on conditions other than obesity. So there's a lot to unpack in there, but but but it's in it, it just talks about it said, look, you know, all of the all for a hundred years of research on diet in information, it there's there's no evidence that any of these one things will result in a sustained weight loss more than 5% of your body weight. Compare that to GLP1 medications that people are losing 20, 25 percent of their body weight. Um the the the difference is just dramatic. And now again, it's I think I think one of the big things, the first thing I want to talk about on this is is when we talk about this, we're we're I think we're on board. We we're not interested in just one thing. We're not interested in in uh we want you to do this diet. It's it's all of these things are a tool to put your tool bag and use together. So you could be doing the carnivore diet, or you could be doing whatever, you know, whatever, whatever thing you can do as far as um, you know, getting your protein, watching your calorie intake, getting your vitamins and your nutrients, um, and using that as a tool along with a medication, you know, GLP1 medication, or we talked uh a couple weeks ago about different types of other medications. But but but I think viewing that as it's all of these things are just another tool to have in your in your tool bag and use that way rather than just like a single thing.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

Agreed. And that's why I think our focus uh has been from our own personal experience with patients. I think that's where me and Rick stand in terms of why we feel so passionate about just trying to work on lifestyle changes, because we find that for so many people that that is just one piece of this, and that those are the things that we can realistically expect and that we've seen anecdotally in clinic that people are willing to change and maintain over a long period of time. We don't see that there's a a large amount of people. So if we took a hundred of our patients, we find that a very small amount of those people will actually be able to maintain and sustain um more extreme uh diets, like carnivore or keto or um even calorie counting. People just get so tired of it. And me and Rick having actually gone through this ourselves, which is why we're so passionate about this. We really love the idea of saying, why don't we work on some lifestyle things that we actually can implement in our life, not live perfect, but actually like be reasonable about, um, always, you know, working on it, self-correcting, doing a little bit better today than I did yesterday. And uh, we just find that for us and for our patients, that that's where we see the success. You combine that with medical weight loss, which is of course talking about adding GLP ones in there, um, and how much a hundred years of research, which is why these are so revolutionary, has just it's almost like we've always, it's almost like what they're it's saying, and I maybe I'm gonna say this wrong because I've never actually like formulated this thought, but it's almost like they're saying we've been attacking the wrong problem. Like we can only see this the 5% in any one of these diets that everyone's trying. And right now, as it sits with medication and science to where it's at, right now it's saying, well, with GLP1s, we're finding that we have probably found the solution and we need to focus on the you need a medication to combine with those lifestyle things if you want to have any real sustained weight loss long term. That doesn't mean that people don't lose weight with lifestyle changes with certain diets and maintain it. We're just saying that those the studies would suggest, and what we see in practice is that that's the exception, not the norm.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Yeah. So, so that the as you hear about this or read, you know, online, I think we wanted to address some things that you may hear on like like whatever guru's website or or podcast or Instagram page, um, some things that are said, or you might hear uh might be questioned from your friends, like what about what about this? I for I heard this online. And so so I want to let's address a few of these things. This um, this this article talks a little bit about it says, hey, you know, just pick any prominent uh guru, doctor, author who has hitched themselves to a singular weight management diet, whether that's keto, vegan, low fat, carnivore, or other approach, and look at the tenor of the message they share. So it says, you know, these messages are out there in the world that that are focused on like one specific diet thing, right? So here's here's let's start our I got a list of um of things you may hear or be asked about, uh and let's just address them. Yeah, right. So number one is uh you may hear about an exaggeration of the medication's cost. Sure. Like these are too expensive for you. You GLP1s, you'll you'll go broke before you're skinny.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Before you're sure I think it's not to discount that it's just not to discount that these medications can be more expensive than not doing medications, right? But when you start looking at the net cost, right? And me and Rick have talked about this before. The net costs of so for example, it's like pay it now or pay it later. So let's talk about the now. Uh, what are you spending right now on food? What how much does it cost you and your family to go out to eat? I know for me and my wife, geez, when we go out to eat nowadays, boy, we're splitting uh splitting a meal. Uh, you know, we see we see the significant reduction in cost of food right away today, right? So then you combine it with um, you know, the the the reduction in your overall health, like a errors, I should say the improvement or the reduction in health costs later on. I mean, the diabetes is not cheap. Heart disease is not cheap. We're talking tens of thousands of dollars, and we're saying, so it's kind of a pay it now or paid it later. Do you want to really have to? You can't undo the a lot of the damage that diabetes does. So the idea that you're like, hey, I'm gonna get ahead of this, I'm gonna pay these costs now. Yeah, the that's where I think the the exaggerated medical medication costs. Do they cost money? Yes. Are they affordable for every single person? Probably not. Um, but are the for the people that are complaining about it?

SPEAKER_02 9:40

But also the real actual cost is actually coming down, you know. I mean, it's it's it, you know, it's not it, you can get um a lot of these medications for 150 bucks, 200 bucks, 250. Go look at your morning coffee. It used to be 800. I mean, a couple years ago, you were you it was you could get online and it was 800 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

Go look at your morning coffee or something like that, you eliminate that. Uh, you know, something like that. I'm not even saying you have to eliminate that. I'm just saying that it doesn't really add day to day if you break it down like a a day, you know, of use.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

And and I and I like what you said about the the net cost because you when you were you're making these lifestyle changes. I mean, one of the biggest changes. I so I just did a little personal success story. Uh today I weighed myself. I today I weigh 66 pounds less than I did three years and three months ago. Wow. Um, now that's three years and three months of of of working on lifestyle changes, right? Um, but but but that to me that's a big deal. And and that the the difference in how I feel and things like that, it's just I I can't explain that. But but these changes you mentioned about like going out to eat. I don't think that we ever, my wife and I ever go out to eat anymore where it's not two nights of food for sure. Like, like there's always I'm gonna take a bunch of this home because uh I mean it's delicious, and I'm gonna eat it tomorrow too, because there's there's just I'm not gonna eat it at all.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Yeah, and I think part of that uh we would probably both agree this is the medication. It's also just mentally, we've yeah just figured out that you don't need to consume as much as you were consuming. Yeah. Um, speaking of that, I saw a video came back into my feed for Facebook, and it was a video from where we worked together, and uh it was Rick was talking in the video, and I couldn't believe it, right? I've seen this transition over the years. I could not believe it. I was like, who is that guy? Big guy. He's just he looks totally different. Now, to me, he looks like Rick, but like it's crazy when you look back on that, and I see honestly like what you looked like then to now, and it's so different. And I'm sure you just I mean, I think we've talked about it, you feel so much better. And 66 pounds, you've lost my eight-year-old. You've like my she was just weighing in the end, you've lost my eight-year-old. Like you've that that's incredible.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yeah, no, and I that to honestly, that's one of the things that makes me the most passionate about this because as you know, we we we see people in but you know in the emergency department, and and well, I think we'll talk about this in another episode as well, kind of the stigma around uh around obesity, but but it's just it's it's sometimes I feel like I'm I'm doing a disservice by not mentioning this, it's really contributing to a lot of your misery. Yes, it is you know, all right. So medications costs are exaggerated. Yes, uh, you often so we talked with Cliff about this there. You may hear about an ominous mention of GLP1's discovery relationship with the Gila Monster lizard venom. So there's some weird things. There's some weird things where medications uh originally were discovered, or the or the active ingredient, whatever they are, there are stories uh of all kinds of things. Um look up protamine, that's a crazy one. Um it but anyway, uh so as Clip, our our resident um pharmacist, pharmacist, yeah, uh mentioned, you know, that yes, that's where we discover some of these chemicals, but the but the medications are made in a lab, it's all in a you know clean environment, yeah, sterile, highly regulated.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Yes, I mean it's it's no one's like butchering Ghila monsters, taking squeezing their venom, or like yeah, have them like tied up in like in a in a lab somewhere, right? It's just yeah, and medications, you'd be so shocked if you went and even just Googled uh some of the craziest ways that medications are discovered and found. I mean, yeah, there's crazier uh than that. So it's it's just the truth is is that uh medications are found in all kinds of different ways, and um that's not where your GLP one is coming from. No, it's not all right.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

So you may hear about um mentions that you'll need a higher and a higher medication dose. Like you're gonna get on these medications, and then you're just gonna have to keep going up in your dose, keep going up in your dose, gonna be more expensive, it's gonna hit you know get more side effects. Um I don't know. I mean the only response I have to that is that's just flat wrong.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

It is flat wrong. And I think what we see is it's per patient. There are some patients that do really well on low doses of blood pressure.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

And and they can stay on a really low dose and do really well. And some of them have to go to higher doses, and they don't really get the the major effects and the significant weight loss until they get to higher doses. There's a lot of science and genetics and all that that play into this. And to not go too far into it, everyone reacts and metabolizes medications differently. And that's not just GLP1s or weight loss medications in general. There are every medication on the market, everyone processes it differently. And you just have to find out what the right dose is for you. And if you're working with a provider to be able to do that, you should be able to figure that out. And hopefully, with combined with lifestyle changes, hopefully you can keep that dose as low as possible.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

Yeah. Well, and and again, I don't know of any any studies that I've read that that talk about kind of long-term use or or increasing dose over you know a period of many years. Yeah. But but it seems to be in in my practice, and you can corroborate or let me know if I'm up in the night on this one, but but it seems you know, a lot of people will take a GLP1 medication, they'll kind of taper up over several months, get to get to a with their their kind of sweet spot dose, whether that's the maximum dose or half or whatever it is, they find their spot where they feel good, they're not having side effects, they're losing weight, and and then they'll do that for a year or so, right? Get get to a target weight, get to where they feel good, their close fit better, whatever, whatever their end result is. Yeah. And and and then most people, it seems to me, cut that back by about a third or a half, yeah. And and and kind of maintain that for as long as they want. Some, you know, and you you talked about people that's like, I'm gonna just quit and get off it, and then they want to get back on because they make it just how they felt, not because of any weight gain. But sure. Um, so I have zero problem someone taking this for the rest of their life. But but that's that's been kind of my experience. Like you use that, and people kind of just cut it back, and I'm gonna be on main uh maintain this, and it helps me a little bit, and I'm just taking a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

And that's what I see in practice over and over and over again. The reason why it's not talked about, or there's some like nuance, like like there's sometimes it's a little bit unclear. If you go and talk to your primary care provider about this, they may be like, well, you know, the reason why is because the studies were all done for this medication to get its approval, FDA approval, is the studies were all done with people taking certain doses and going up every four weeks, no matter what.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

And right, you know what I mean? So yeah, follow the schedule rigidly. And so, well, in real life, in practice, that's not actually what happens for most providers now. Now, that used to be what happened when this first came out. I mean, people would just follow the dosing schedule, right? But it's not like that anymore. I think most of your providers that are even somewhat up to date on any of this go to the best tolerated dose that's working and you're feeling good on. And so um, yeah, I think it's more so the importance of then working with a provider that you trust and you feel comfortable with. There's some people that do have to go to the higher doses to get a good effect. There's some people that never get to the high doses, they don't even get past the starting dose and they lose a bunch of weight and they do really, really well. So I think it's it definitely varies patient to patient. And that's with every medication. And yes, does your body there is adaptation that happens with the body? And I think that's also where this comes from. Sure. Do you feel the same you do as the first time you took trusepatite or semaglutide as you do the 50th time you do? Probably not. At the same dose, you probably wouldn't feel exactly the same. That's with everything. Anything you take on a consistent basis, anything you eat or drink on a consistent basis, your body had adaptation is why we can live as a species. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

And I've I know people that have kind of experienced that, talked about that. Like I just I I the food noise is back a little bit, but but I don't know of anyone that that says, I'm on this same dose I've been on, and it's doing absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Like you may get a little downgrade, I guess, would be a word uh for that. But but it's not like, oh, they're ineffective anymore.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

I mean, they're still a massive help. And a lot of people will find, and I think you've probably seen this as well as I have, is even when the appetite starts creeping back a little bit, it's not what it was, but it may be a little bit, a lot of times the patient is still maintaining their weight quite well. It's just that they're not used to hearing that food noise again. So they start to have a little bit creep back in, and they're like, oh boy, I can hear it. But yet you get them on the scale and the composition scale, and their numbers look great and their weights good stable, and you're like, Yeah, you're you have a little bit more food noise. And I know that's frustrating because who likes to, especially when they've gone a little while without hearing that. Um, but it's actually a good exercise. And when I think that patients hear that coming back in, it's like, hey, embrace that, like find your balance there. Yeah. Um, being hungry is a normal human experience.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Um, cutting that completely out while it's I think that's I think one of the things that I personally experienced uh is an ability to not allow um feeling hunger rule the day. Yep. Um I don't know. And I and I honestly I think Jill P once helped with that. It helped be able to kind of mentally just sort of brush that aside, that that feeling. But anyway, I agree. That was that was a big change.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Anyway, Miss Nomer, uh, if you're working with a medical provider that is working with you, you will find kind of that sweet spot, the dose that works for you, and that may be very low or on the higher end or somewhere in the middle. And uh there's not like any evidence that shows you just have to keep going up, up, up, up, up. It the it's not true.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Okay, here's another one. Uh, you'll hear assertions that uh GLP ones are a craze. These are a craze. What I don't know what they mean by craze, but uh you're probably like, oh, this is gonna, it's uh it's a fat, it'll come in, it'll go.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

Um no, it won't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

There's a lot of crazes in weight loss medicine. There's a lot of crazes in the world.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

Like, I think I think the reason that this is like this is like the pot calling the kettle black. Like, like you've you've been you've been promoting this specific workout thing and diet program, you know, for for 20 years. Yeah and and you're the guru and you made it. Um, and now there's something that is five times more effective than you have ever been in helping people. Yep. Um, who's the who's the fat?

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Who's the fat? Who's yeah, who's who's the yeah? It's it's just so wild. And the thing is, is that yeah, it's for anyone that doesn't uh utilize GLP1s in their practice, uh, or someone that's maybe not a medical provider that's yeah, selling a bill of goods.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Yeah, I think it's important for everyone to understand every medical provider to understand this a little bit better than than I think we currently do.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Yeah. And so it just gets to the point where yes, uh GLP ones. Hey, there's been a lot of fads in in weight loss and and weight loss medications and ways to lose weight. Um, this is not one of them. Yeah, we have overwhelming data. It's not, it's not a little bit, it's not kinda. We have overwhelming data. This this is their here to stay. And they, I mean, with soon retotrutide and all these other medications that they're working on. In fact, I think there's a list of like nine or ten right now that are in various phases of their FDA trials. Get ready.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

Yeah, no, uh, retotrutide is is going to it uh it will change the game, it will ramp up to a new gear. It'll be like going for you know, like semaglutide was first gear, terzepatide was second gear. Like, wow, this is that much better. Redotrutide is gonna do that same thing that terzepatide. It is, it is it, it's amazing. Yeah, and and there's no there's no question, like sure, we it's not it's not FDA approved, it's in final trial studies and things like that, but but um it if we had to, if I was a betting person, I would say, you know what, it's gonna get it's gonna get approved.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

It's gonna get approved, and it's gonna be good. And it's not even gonna be good, it's gonna be great. It is really truly like we started out with semaglutide, which was our Honda Civic, uh, which is great, it's reliable, and it got you to the destination and helped a lot of people, and then you upgraded to your Camaro. Um Reddit True Tide is the Ferrari. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, and maybe the Learjet is coming. But it's but it's and I'm sure with all the research and money dumped into this stuff, because it's very popular for good reason, it'll come. But it's at the end of the day, um it's it's really awesome to see what's happening. And it's really nice that instead of this being met with resistance like it was initially, it seems like so many more people providers companies are getting behind it and trying to help people be more healthy.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Yeah. And and a lot of people are accommodating their their kind of business model and things around this, recognizing, as we've talked about, it's as a tool that people are using. And so let's how do we incorporate that tool into you know what we're what we're doing, what we're selling. Absolutely. So you're you'll here's another one. You'll hear dire warnings about the unknown long-term risks. I okay. I don't know if there's a study that shows if you've been started taking t's hepatite or semaglutide for weight loss, uh, what happens 20 years later. However, the medications themselves are not new. Like we did that it's 24 years. Yeah, we have research and data and patients using this. So there is not a paucity of information on people that use this for a long time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

I mean 24 years. Right now, all we're seeing is more and more things that they're discovering, diseases, chronic and short-term diseases that they are like, wow, that helps with this. Wow, we didn't realize that helps with this. It's you know, approved for sleep apnea and approved for osteoarthritis of the knees. And I mean, the things that it come, I mean, the the patients that have autoimmune diseases that we're seeing. Now, once again, this is anecdotal. This was just being reported to us, but you can't ignore the amount of people that just have these in chronic inflammatory conditions that are coming to you and saying, Oh my goodness, um, I have rheumatoid arthritis, I feel amazing. Oh, hey, I have Hashimoto's. I haven't been able to get it under control. We've tried every medication and this and that diet and this, and all of a sudden I'm on a GLP one and I feel so much better and I've been able to sleep better and my weight's under control. This is not an accident. And so far in the 24 years, we can't find any evidence, and there's nothing substantial out there that shows that there's like not only bad, but so many good. We had a whole episode on it. I mean, my goodness, it's it's so at this point, it is if someone's telling you that, um, sure, we don't know exactly what's going to happen at if 24 years is not long enough, I guess at 50 years, at 80 years, we hundred percent know what obesity will result in. We have a lot of long-term data on obesity, and so much. It's the number one killer, it's the number thing, one key thing that'll give you disease and kill you and disable you. And so if it's not worse than that, then it's still risk versus benefit better, right?

SPEAKER_02 24:53

I I honestly didn't put that together that way, but yeah, that's that's a good way to put that. All right, how about how about this one? Um, you may hear recommendations on how to boost your own body's endogenous GLP1 by following their diet. Yes. So if you follow my diet, you just make your own GLP1.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

You don't need to buy semaglutide. The people that are promoting this are people that cannot prescribe GLP1s.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

Uh also people who I think we mentioned the in 100 years of research and data, none of them have been even 20% as successful as the GLP one.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Look, I'm not, we're not, this is not an episode to we're not gonna bash other people. Yeah, we're not. I mean, we're not here to to like like if anyone's out there promoting someone to eat healthy, to get their protein, to increase their good, healthy fats, because that's exactly how they're gonna tell you you're gonna increase your own GLP1. And um we're not against that. We want you to do all that, but we are just really going into the misnomers about currently about what we know to be the most effective thing in combination with lifestyle changes for this. And when you hear someone that touts a diet, what they're doing is ignoring what Rick's saying is they're ignoring all the evidence that says this is three, four, five times better.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Yeah. Um okay. I think we're maybe got time for a couple more. Um statements, you'll hear statements that GLP1 weight loss uh will result only in regain of the weight. And it's very very common uh that you'll hear that these the results you get are unsustainable. Okay, this this one's probably probably got a a little more grain of truth, I think, than than than maybe some of these other things we've been talking about. Um any weight loss, anything you do to lose weight, I think that's our whole point. Like I pound the you know, put stuff, pound the thing that that you have to use the tools you have and make sustainable lifestyle adjustments. Yeah, uh, or or you're gonna gain some things back. You have to, but you have to be able to maintain that. So, so sure. Do do some people that lose a bunch of weight with GLP1s regain some weight? Yes. Uh do most of the people I know who use GLP1s and lose weight gain it back?

SPEAKER_00 27:26

No.

unknown 27:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Trzepatite, they had an interesting, and I don't we don't have the study pulled up here. Uh, I mean, you can go an e a simple Google search will help you find it. Truseptide actually, and now this is like a like a dual, like a GLP1 and a Git peptide. And so you can look into that. Reditrite's gonna be those two plus another one. So it's starting to look more promising as these more um peptides that are further along, they actually are finding that a lot of people are not gaining as much back as initially, as initially that what they thought. They are having some weight. If you are doing something, I don't care what it is. Like, for example, if you're lifting weights, nothing to do with medications. If you're lifting weights and you stop lifting weights, chances are your muscles will get smaller. That is just a natural process. So chances are if you're doing anything to lose weight, not even chances, the studies that bear this out. If you're doing, if you lose weight, I don't care how you lose it.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

If I do the thing that helps and then stop the thing and it stops helping. Weird.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

When we talk about a GLP one or weight loss or health as a photo instead of a video, it's an ongoing journey. It's not, it's not like uh taking a photo and like, hey, where I'm at here is where I should always be. This is always a process, and and it's a process that starts whenever you're ready to start making that change, and it's a process that continues throughout your life. And I just think that that by saying yes, you'll gain it all back if you lose it, lose it on a GLP one, not necessarily. In fact, I have patients that have truly gotten off GLP1s and maintained a good healthy weight, maybe with a slight, you know, five to 10 pounds. Now, I will say most of them do prefer and do better when they're able to stay on even a low maintenance dose, is what we normally coin that as a maintenance dose is to try to keep you at that same weight. Yes, of course they do. They use medications to help them get it down, they use medications to help maintain. And uh, so why this is a bad thing, I'm not really sure. And yes, if you lose weight, no matter how you lose it, um, and you stop doing the thing that helped you lose weight, you will probably gain weight back. And the studies would support that. So that's not just a GLP one, that's every known way we lose weight. So I think it is true, um, but also um, but also kind of duh. Like duh. Like, of course you'd gain weight if you stopped doing the thing.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Like some t-shirts or something like duh, duh. Uh it's weight loss. It's weight loss.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Yeah, it doesn't, it's not this stagnant thing that you lose it once and you're just done.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

That's an important point, though. Like it's it's the rest of your life, like you know, healthier ever after. I mean, that you know, we named this podcast not really on a whim by that. It really did resonate with what we feel like is important. And and this is a for the rest of your life thing. I mean, this is not a this is not a like let's just change our body once and think. This is this is we're looking to help people change your body in a way that makes your life and your lifestyle and your enjoyment so much better for all the rest of the time you have on this planet. And hopefully, by doing that, you have more time on this planet with your kids, with your grandkids, with your friends, or whatever it may be, but but in a healthier way that you can enjoy that and and function with longevity.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

And I think it really comes down to right now, the only thing that we can really say um that science would support is that we the things that we talk about can definitely improve the quality of your life. Quantity of life, how long you're gonna live? Well, that's anyone's guess. Maybe we'll find at some point that these GLP ones do extend life. But right now, the the main goal is that we don't know how much longer we have left in this life. If we assume that we're all gonna live to the average age of, you know, 78, then um then how many ever more years until then do you want those years to be quality? How much of them do you want to be? Like, I remember the thing that really got me going on my weight loss journey was something so silly. Um, but it was something that I'm sure many of you have experienced. I leaned forward and tied my shoes, and when I got back up, I was kind of out of breath. And I was like, oh my gosh, my belly, like I was pushing so much when I was bent over. I'm like, out of breath, tying my shoes, so frustrating. And so I was like, forget that. I can't do that. So I literally figured it out.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

I literally uh a couple years ago, I I stopped. Um so I, you know, I could like just pull my video the video people get a little thing. They just pull my foot up like this, right? Put my sock on, yeah, or my shoe, tie my lace. Yeah, and I started I started having to do the thing where like I cross my foot and do it sideways because I couldn't I couldn't bend my leg up into my belly enough to reach my foot.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

It's just it's wild the things we'll do to accommodate for these, you know, for honestly, having that bigger belly and and um and like to be out of breath by with tying your shoes because you put so much pressure on your abdomen is just wild. And and the thing is, it's like and you learn to live with that. I mean, you do that.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

That's like it's like it's your everyday thing, but but now that you're far beyond that. I think that's that's what we want to encourage people about. That's why we're excited about this.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

We want you to be able to do these things better, just passionate about it because we've been where you've been, your journey's different, but where you've been, we've been there and we've watched forget us for a moment. Uh, we've watched it in patients' lives and how it changes their lives and how much better they feel when they lose some weight and feel better about themselves, physically, emotionally, mentally, all the things. And so that's where our passion comes from. We like to talk about the these these uh things that are gonna come up with your access.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Yeah, I think it's important for people to realize like you'll hear you'll hear a lot of these of these things, and and we just we want you to hear the other side, our our take on that, because because really we've we've seen a very different story in real IRL. Yeah, that's a little thing they say online.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah, IRL. In real life. In real life. I know. My girls, my girls thing so old. I'm learning a whole new uh vocabulary with my girls.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

Well, and that I that's probably good. But I mean, yeah, there's other things you'll hear. But so so you know, stay tuned. Uh tune in again. We are we're glad you're here. Uh check us out on supportmyweightloss.com. And if you're interested in any uh supplements, we have getweightwise.com. Got our uh supplements available there if you're looking for. They don't make you make more GLP1. They do not make more in diet, no. They are but we do we do hope that you can find a mix and a and a and a program and tools that you can use to really be healthier ever after. Like that's that's our our goal is to increase your health and wellness. Take care. All right, take care.