Insulin Sensitivity - A Deep Dive

Rick Sorensen and Greg Camp tackle a term that gets thrown around constantly but rarely explained: insulin sensitivity. In this conversational deep-dive, they break the science down to "eighth-grade biology" and build it back up with analogies anyone can follow.

You'll learn how your body converts food into glucose, how insulin works like a key unlocking your cells, and what goes wrong in both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. The centerpiece is Greg's "school hallway" analogy — where students are glucose, classrooms are your cells, and the auditorium is fat storage — which makes insulin resistance click in a way a textbook never could.

From there, Rick and Greg cover the practical levers that actually move the needle: why muscle is your body's biggest glucose "sink," how a simple walk after a meal (and the GLUT4 "side door") helps glucose get used without extra insulin, and how visceral fat, poor sleep, and chronic stress work against you. They also dig into diet — why sugary drinks spike your system like dropping every student off at once, and how protein and fiber trickle it in instead — and close on why protecting your muscle while losing weight is essential to keeping your insulin sensitivity high for the long haul.

The bottom line: your body craves homeostasis and hates extremes. Move regularly, build and keep muscle, and avoid big sugar spikes to help your body process energy efficiently — and keep your pancreas healthy for years to come.

This episode is for informational and educational purposes only. Please consult your medical provider before starting any weight loss program, medication, supplement, diet, or activity.

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SPEAKER_01 0:24

Welcome back. We are here for more. Yeah. Healthier Ever After. I think we have a microphone off. I know. Yeah. I don't hear you sitting around talking and chatting, and they're like, let's go. Oh, this is Healthier Ever After. I'm Rick Sorensen. This is Greg Camp.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

We are medical providers, uh, working an emergency medicine and a weight loss clinic. Greg started several years ago. So we are talking about, um, we've been talking about some myths. I think let's talk about so so uh just as our little disclaimer, uh, please meet with and deal and talk to your medical provider before beginning any health regimen, weight loss program, dietary supplement, or other uh thing. Uh we are medical providers, but we're not your medical provider currently. And uh we we hope you have personal contact with the with a professional medical provider. Um, this is uh what we talk about here is informational and educational uh only.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

And we like to have really, and I think it's it's important to point out because we're gonna be getting into the a little bit of the weeds today with our topic. Yeah. Um, and any topic we talk about, we will always talk about like a lot of the medical stuff that comes along with it because we're medical providers and that's like that's what we do. Um, but we like to keep it more conversational. Yeah, uh, we like the science, but also we like to have this where we could talk to teenagers and you know people in their 70s about this stuff and not have it so flooded with um so flooded with the the small little micro details um into the science that no one understands what you're saying. Yeah. I mean, I listen to some podcasters that sometimes I'm like, what? Like he's just talking about and then I have to go look into this. And it just I just can find that a lot of times, and I think that Rick would agree, and sometimes, sometimes like you're not benefited from that because you don't even know what we're talking about. We're not benefiting you, and we're trying to talk to the general public. Not if we're at a medical forum and trying to talk to medical providers about this, yeah, it's a different we get into it maybe. But I guess what I'm saying is that we like to do uh most of our conversations uh or most of our podcasts more conversational.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Yeah, no, I agree with that. And I think that's kind of why I so I I kind of wanted to do this topic simply for that very reason. As I was thinking about some of these things, we're talking a little bit, it and and I noticed that I think I I worry that we sometimes talk about things, you know, physiology or or processes in the in the body as medical providers that that may not be as as intuitive to anybody. Uh, and and and the the specific thing I want to talk about tonight is what we call insulin sensitivity. Because I noticed we've talked about that, we talked about exercise, talked about you know different things that that increase or decrease your insulin sensitivity, how cortisol affects insulin sensitivity, you know. And so we we drop that and and I was like, what does that even mean to anybody? What does insulin sensitivity mean? And why is it important to understand? So so we want to just break down that term tonight a little bit and what it means, uh, and why it's important. Maybe, maybe I I really am a fan of understanding kind of the physiology that we're talking about, how the body works. That's that's what we're trying to do, is adjust things so that your body works well. And and and that's what is help. That's what what healthy is. It's when your body is working well, work like it's designed to, make you feel better. You can do the things.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

And we're why guys, it's it's we like the why. I think that that you a lot of times can get more passionate about, like, okay, if I understand generally speaking, how a process in my body works, so I understand, you know, how sugar and insulin and all these systems work together, then I think a lot of times it actually helps really you formulate a plan within your own life as opposed to, you know, when when medical providers or podcasters or you know, in health influencers use that term insulin resistance or insulin sensitivity or anything about insulin, what are they talking about? Like and and if that's going over your head a little bit, hopefully this episode is to try to really to try to take that to where, you know, just use an example as like when I go to the mechanic and they're working on my vehicle.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

I don't know what to talk about.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Yeah, sometimes they're just getting a little bit like they're like, Oh, well, yeah, if you you know, and then the combustion here and they talk about parts of cars that I don't know what they are. All right, does it go vroom vroom? That's what I'm worried about.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Yeah, I just need it to drive me.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

So we don't we want to make it to where you just understand a little bit more into the inner workings of your body because we really do help that think that it'll help.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

It helps understand what you're doing, what you're trying to accomplish. All right, so insulin synthesis. So so let's just take a step back. Let's just like think of this as like eighth grade um biology. Yeah, I don't even want to call it physiology, it's just biology. So so um your body is composed of a bunch of cells. You have muscle cells, fat cells, nerve cells, all of the cells, right? And the cells need energy. And the way your body provides energy to these cells is through sugar or glucose, right? Glucose is the form of sugar that you know it takes other forms of sugar that you eat and turns it into glucose. Glucose is the molecule that your body can transport in the blood to um provide fuel for cells. In your body, you know, your cells take the glucose in and then they turn it into ATP. I mean, they turn it into energy. They use it. Usable energy. Okay, usable energy. So, so, so that's the thing. Now, when we talk about blood sugar, like high blood sugar, that's the glucose. That's our glucose in the bloodstream, and that's what we measure. If we you go to the doctor, they take your blood and they measure your glucose, and that's what your your blood sugar or your blood glucose is, and and and what that level in the bloodstream is determines how your body thinks it needs to handle it, right? So if it goes up, you all of a sudden you eat a good meal or you have ice cream or whatever, you it or you need to be in a good mood. A good meal that your body digests those nutrients and that energy, and you end up with glucose in the bloodstream. Okay, so your blood glucose goes up. What your body does with that is says, Hey, I need to use glucose. I have glucose, I need to use it. So the first thing I want to do is burn it up. I want to use it for energy. What do I have going on that I need to use energy and your muscles? All you think of your muscles, not just like muscles in your arms, legs, hands, abs, but your muscles, all of your muscles in general is like one big organ, and it's the biggest engine, biggest organ you have to burn and use glucose. Okay. So if you are talking about your body as a furnace, a calorie glucose, sugar burning furnace, the muscles are most of that. They do most of that work. So the first thing your body says is I have glucose and I need to burn it up. And so it it produces insulin. Your pancreas is the brain there, and your pancreas produces insulin that is the signal. It's like a key that unlocks the door to the cells. Okay, and so insulin goes around and says, Hey, there's glucose, I need to get it in. So insulin gets sent out to the cells, it unlocks the door to the cells that lets glucose into the cells.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

So that's where we want it. We want the glucose to get into the cells because that's where it's functional. Um things can go wrong with that process. So, type 1 diabetes, let's just talk about that for a second, then we'll keep going on our biology journey. Type 1 diabetes is where your pancreas stops making insulin. Yeah, so it can't. It can't, it can't, it doesn't make the keys to unlock the door. So what happens is you eat your glucose, your blood sugar goes up. People with type 1 diabetes get really high blood sugar, but their cells are starving because they can't get that sugar, that glucose, into the cell to use it as fuel. And so that's the problem. You they and so they have to give themselves insulin that their pancreas isn't making, so that it can open the door, unlock the key, open the door, and let glucose into the cells to use it as energy and and then take it out of the bloodstream, right? So that's that's that's how that goes wrong. So the that's what the body's doing. Now, um, you've got the your glucose spike, insulin sends the signal, opens the cells, lets glucose in, and your body uses it. And it'll burn what it can. And then if there's still glucose, then it says, okay, then I'm gonna store a little bit in the liver with glycogen, I'm gonna make some glycogen, I'm gonna store a little bit of this for like immediate needs. And then if I have extra glucose, then the next thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna unlock the key to the fat cells and I'm gonna just store more fat. So any excess calories that you're not using, the body puts it into the fat cells to store it for later. And and so that's kind of what's happening with that.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

I just thought of an analogy. I want to just uh and just before you move on to the phone. I just I'm listening to you, and I'm like, oh, this is like kind of how I imagine this in my mind's eye. So you can imagine, like if you're thinking about like like when you were going to school, elementary school or high school, the hallways are the bloodstream. Yeah, and when before school starts, right? Like, I mean, think about it, just madness, or in between classes, there's madness. Your student level goes up. Yeah, your student level, or in this case, your glucose level. Now imagine all the students in the hallway, it's just cramped. Yeah, like it's just the hallways are full. Now, how do you get the hallways to be clear? And then, like, look at those hallways during class. They're they're kind of empty. They don't, you know, maybe a few students, a janitor. But what your blood, what you're really the insulin is trying to do is that's the school monitor or a teacher that's saying, Hey, let me go and open these doors for these students to go into these classrooms. That's yourselves. So the classroom, little classrooms. Now, let's say that you get all the classrooms full and everything's done that way, and we still have a bunch of students in the hallway. A bunch of students in the hallway. They're well, they're gonna take them to the auditorium where that's let's call it your fat storage. Yeah, so they're excess students, we don't have anywhere to put them, so we're gonna put them in the auditorium to leave them there, and then we don't want them there. We actually want them in the classroom, but there's there's no more classroom spaces, there's no more seats. Yes. And so the the idea is that is that you want to honestly really just empty the hallway out when the students are in the hallway. You need to find a classroom for them.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Okay, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

That's maybe kind of a crazy analogy.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

I okay, I like it, I like it a lot, but there are some issues with it. And so, number one, for the rest of my life, I'm gonna think of my my gut as my auditorium. I know, right? It's full of students, yeah. So, so number two, um the I think the analogy only breaks down in that we don't once the students are in the classroom, we don't burn them. Correct. For fuel. It's a good point. It's a good point. But uh but that's what your body's doing. It takes your students and it burns them up and then uses them. Yeah, it uses them, and then you can, if you need more, you take them from the auditorium or from more students. Yeah, because you eat as you eat, you get more students coming into school. Yep. Um, so you get them either from more eating or from the auditorium, and then you take them to the classroom to burn them.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah, when I thought of this analogy, I it was really good until it was good until you're like until what do they do in the classroom? Uh yeah, so yes.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

So no, so so they get the the fuel gets used up in the classroom. Sure, right? The cells, the cells burn it up, and then you need to do more. I like that auditorium, though. Yeah, so in the hallway. Okay. So uh so type one diabetes, like I talked about, is the doors never get unlocked. Nobody, the janitor doesn't show up with the keys to the rooms. Yeah, everyone's all the students are still in there, classroom, nobody in the classroom to learn, and the classroom dysfunction.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

Yeah, now imagine you have all the kids in the in the hallway and you just keep adding kids. Like you're not they're not going anywhere, you're not dispersing the kids to the classroom. So you're gonna fill the auditorium. I mean, everything's gonna be an overlook.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Yeah, it's overlooked, yeah. Okay, so insulin. Now, so that's what insulin does. Now, what what the other thing that happens over time is um, well, so then we talk about insulin sensitivity. Let's talk about what that means then is you can do things for your body that that make the key work better. Yep, right, and that's what insulin sensitivity is. When we talk about uh, you know, exercise, uh resistance training, whatever increases insulin sensitivity. What that just means is the cells respond better to insulin. So you only need a little bit of insulin to open all the keys to open the gates and let the glucose into the cells to burn for fuel.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

And it maybe think of it as like the classroom has two doors, or maybe just a big wider door. You're you're you're you just can accept that glucose so much easier.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Yeah, right. And it will and and insulin sensitivity specifically is the response to that key. Um, insulin resistance is the opposite of that, and that's what leads to what we call type 2 diabetes is your pancreas just sometimes your your the locks get rusty, so the cells don't respond well. They their insulin resistance goes up so that so that it takes more keys, more insulin to open the gates to let the glucose into the cells. And so what your body sees is wow, I've I'm given this insulin, but it's not lowering the sugar. It's not the glucose isn't getting into the cells as much. The students aren't leaving the hallway as quickly. So I need to get more insulin. So your pancreas makes more insulin because the cells don't respond to it as well, so it has to give more to respond. And over time, uh the pancreas wears out. Yeah. They can only do so much. Yeah, the cells are not responding. And so, so uh all of a sudden your pancreas can't make the amount of insulin that your body needs to open all the rusty locks that have insulin resistance. And so that's what type 2 diabetes is is your your pancreas stops being able to meet the need, the increased need to open those gates to let glucose into the cells. So it stays in the hallway, it stays in the bloodstream and not into the cells where it's needed to be, and causes all kinds of other problems. So that's what insulin resistance is, or really it's the precursor to type 2 diabetes. So when we talk about we want to increase um insulin sensitivity, that's simply making your body more efficient for insulin so that it doesn't have to wear your pancreas out. And and it ultimately leads to a a lot more efficient and better functioning machine. All right. So so that's that's um kind of physiology in a nutshell. Uh so there are things that that then we can talk about with um like exercise. We talk about exercise is the big thing because because your muscle is the biggest glucose sink. It's the biggest, like there, it's most of the classrooms are muscle, yes, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Yeah, you got your brain that's gonna require some and always needs some, right? You have your heart, and obviously you're working your lungs, but what makes all these work? I mean, really, the heart is just um, even though it's maybe a different type of muscle, it's not skeletal muscle, it's it's muscle that still requires, you know, uh sugar or glucose to run. And so it's just really it, but it's small, right? Your heart's always going, but it's small, it's not gonna have the uptake your, you know, your big dye does, or yeah. Like, I mean, you're just not gonna have that uptake. It requires some, but not a a large amount.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

Yeah, and so and simply having a little bit more muscle by doing some resistance training is is helpful. Even just a short walk after a meal blunts the glucose spike because because using those muscles opens those doors, makes them more sensitive, and absorbs, and and actually there's something else there's so there's this side change. So the glute for the glucose transporter type for it's it's a think of this as a side door or the window, or you know, like that you get into the classroom a different way. And and your muscles have this. So as you as you exercise and move your muscles, use your muscles, they they move these like uh transporter molecules to the cell membrane. So it says it's like opening up a side door to the classroom that doesn't require insulin. It's like the the um teacher's aide has a back entrance, opens it, hey kids, come on in here, and and like invites the glucose in without even needing insulin.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

Yeah, which is a beautiful thing, because it really then that makes it to where your pancreas doesn't have to produce as much insulin to be able to do its job, which keeps that sensitivity high and keeps you from getting insulin resistant because you're you're having to crank out more and more insulin. Yeah, it just makes it you're more responsible.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

And then there's other things as well. So so using your muscles, resistance training, uh, and and then and frequently you just just the actual just use of the muscles helps this process. And that's the biggest thing. But there's other things we've talked about as well, and that's why this kind of comes up in our conversation is is um you know, losing visceral fat. As you lose weight and the visceral, the fat around your organs in your body, that makes you uh less sensitive or more resistant to insulin, uh poor sleep, chronic stress, and causing your chronic stress hormones to to go in your cortisol, like those are things that that make you more resistant to insulin. Yeah, and so so there are those, you know, all the things we've talked about reducing stress, better sleep, reducing visceral fat, that's um those are things that that help this process and help your body deal with it and manage.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

And we kind of went into this and and on a broader picture. We went into this a little bit um on our myth busting episode, I think, number two, when when we kind of talked about how, you know, it there's a lot of different things that you can do to solve a lot of these various issues. It's not just one thing. You're not gonna do the juice cleanse and fix all of this. You're not gonna, you know, just walk and eat horrible and fix it all. Like it actually is a like a various um or like a um multiple multitude of things that you can do that really help with this. So, you know, you can, yes, of course, you can really help yourself by building, you know, muscles up to your ears. But for some people, that's not really the answer to this, right? Some people don't want to go and get big muscles or huge muscles and lift heavy, heavy weights and all that stuff. So, I mean, you think about these bodybuilders that lift you know massive amounts of weight and have huge muscles, they can also consume 600 calories or sorry, 6,000 calories in a day. And that's different than me consuming 6,000 calories in a day. But why? Why can that guy do that and still remain like pretty fit and lean but big? Um, and it's because he is the amount of energy it takes to actually manage those muscles.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

I think I remember like it several years ago, you know, 16, I don't know how many years ago, when Michael Phelps was had his big run in the Olympics. I think I have this thing in my head. I think they were talking about his diet during his training days was like 10,000, 11,000 calories. It's insane. So much, but but again, he massive muscles and work them hours and hours and hours all day long. It's it's it's it's a different thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

He just never could. I mean, he never could. I mean, he as fast as he could put that glucose, those kids in the hallway, they were being immediately removed. And he just I mean, that's just what swimming was doing for him with his muscles and with the amount of energy he's expending. I mean, never. You saw how leaning.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

So is he the one example of someone that can out exercise a bad diet?

SPEAKER_00 20:03

You know, if you're swimming as hard, if you're an Olympic athlete, if you can out swim Michael Phelps, eat what you want. Yeah, do whatever you want. That's our stand. Yeah. So just uh we'll call it our Michael Phelps plan.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

So uh a couple other things. The um talking about insulin resistance, back to back on. Yeah, I got off track, as usual. So there is a couple of little diet levers you can think, like reducing uh refined carbohydrates, so your added sugar, your sugary drinks. Um, that what that can do is it it decreases this big spike of glucose, which which decreases the insulin demand. Your body doesn't get this thing like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do with all these students in the hallway? Like, I got this massive influx. That's what that's what the refined sugars do. And so it causes the spike in insulin to kind of take care of that quickly. And and so avoiding that is helpful. And that's why uh protein and fiber slow that spike as well.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Well, like imagine, I think. Um, once again, I mean, the using the analogies for me is it's just how my brain kind of processes things. But imagine all the students being dropped off at the exact same time, like the same time, versus that's that's the sugary drinks, right? Because they all hit it once. You're it spikes everything. So your body goes into like sheer panic mode, releasing as many as insulin as they can to try to hurry and put all the students where they go. And it really a lot of times even overcorrects, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:23

Yep, and so that's why you feel like you get this crash and you're big tired.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

I what I've always referred to as the Thanksgiving effect, because you just always feel tired after you get that big Thanksgiving meal. But this happens through that. And then, and then, but now imagine you actually do get some carbs. Let's even just say, even if it's the bad carbs, but let's say that's combined with fiber and fats, like good fats and protein and protein. Now, what you've done is you've basically stopped them from being absorbed as quickly. That all the students weren't dropped off at once. You actually trickle them in. Your, you know, mom drops off a couple here, um, the bus drops off a few students here. Your body can just manage that a lot easier. Or just like you could if those students all showed up, you know, kind of as they come along. Anytime your body's dealing with extremes, any direction, right? So no students at all, you're starving yourself, you're not getting any glucose for long periods of time, or too many students at once, your body really just it doesn't like extremes. It always is looking for homeostasis, always looking for kind of some steadiness. And so, you know, you just, I mean, honestly, it just in every situation in your body is like those extremes are typically not the answer. Yeah. And so I really think it's the my thought process would be, you know, don't like the sugary drinks are just absorbed so quickly, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Yeah. And I like that it's dropping everybody off at the same time. Yeah, all the glucose, it quick, yeah, your body is extremely efficient at like sucking that straight into the bloodstream.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

If you even think about it from where me and Rick work, we work at the ER and we see, let's say, anywhere from 180 to 200 patients in a day. That's all day long. Now, if all 200 patients showed up at once, then that's pandemonium, right? But we can take care of patients as they trickle in throughout the day. Your body does the same with glucose. I mean, we can deal with the ups and downs of the day.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

If six people show up all having a heart attack at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

It's gonna be a rough day. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just your body can only deal with all the.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

We can only do so much, right? Yeah, no, I like that because yeah, if that I mean that's hor that's just horrific to think about. But as we go through the day, I mean we deal with what we can, and sometimes you you you're stretched, but yeah, and you're overwhelmed, and but that's your body too, right? Your body does that, yeah. Your body can handle some variation, but I think, yeah, the far big extremes um are are are not healthy, and and the ones you can avoid, you ought to avoid. Yeah, that's I think what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

And if the goal is to, because we talk about weight loss, of course, a ton, and if the goal is to reduce the size of the auditorium, in this case, the excess, the overload of students, yeah, because it needs to go somewhere. You can't just leave the students in the hallway, because we know what that does. That's gonna lead to all kinds of other health problems. We could get into a diabetes deep dive later.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

Having too much glucose for too long circulating in the bloodstream does, yeah. That's we could do that whole thing. Yeah, we should do that on an episode.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yes, absolutely. I mean, we're talking about wrecks your kidneys, wrecks your eyes, wrecks your purple neuropathies, your we'll we'll get into that because kidneys, but I'm gonna say kidneys again because terrible. It it is it is really just it just wrecks the system. So it truly does come down to then, okay, so what can we do, right? Short of actually eating a perfect diet, because none of us are probably none, that's not uh even what we recommend, right? So, short of that, like what are the things that we can do to help our body be more um more uh insulin sensitive, correct? And to really to honestly use up that glucose without storing too much of it in a healthy weight, in a help, yeah, and yeah, maintaining a healthy weight. So and I think that's where a lot of times really the first the low-hanging fruit from this, the most obvious source is really just adding good activity and lean muscle. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

And so however you want to do that, that's the walking after you eat, that's the resistance training, doing what you can to increase your muscle mass or or even just maintain muscle mass, not lose it while you're losing weight. Yeah. And and and then using it um regularly. And and I think we got an episode coming up on just what exercise does to your body as well. It's because it's amazing. Like, like you don't need to, you literally do not need to like over-exercise. The the health benefits of 60 minutes a week are are like it if I go exercise six hours, the health benefit really is not a whole lot more than 60 minutes in a week.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

It's been shown study after study. It's it's it's wild because you do you meet a lot of people that um really do exercise like mad people. I mean, we're talking two hours a day, six days a week. They like it. Some people like that. Some people are really into that. But arguably, um, and once again, for Olympic athletes or something like that, honestly, like I mean, yeah, they are training for a very specific purpose, but for you know, us average human beings, uh, I don't think maybe some Olympic athletes are listening to this, but for the people that are probably more likely listening to this, not Olympic athletes, and there's good benefits from just not overly doing it, just having some activity, using your muscles a little bit, yeah, getting some resistance training, maintaining your muscle mass, and that's gonna help your body manage this, help your body be insulin sensitive and and I don't know, keep your pancreas living and working well much longer than well, and and on a side note, and you know, keeping like as much as it's important to add lean muscle, like we're talking about doing activities to add that, I mean, uh almost arguably, or maybe even more importantly, when you're losing weight, if that's your goal, um maintaining that muscle. So if if if it's important to add muscle, it's equally important to maintain what you have, right? So when you're losing weight and we talk about staying active and getting your protein to main make sure you maintain good, proper muscle. A lot of the reason we do that is because yes, the the number on the scale, um, if that's going down because of muscle loss, that is not what we want. Nope. Because ultimately it will take down that insulin sensitivity in the long run, even though you're losing weight and doing some of the things that we know will be helpful. At the end of the day, when you're down at that more like goal weight, make and you want to more just maintain, now you're really having to try to rebuild some of that muscle.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

So if you're if you're here's your thing. So so you're you're starting GLP1 medicine, you do a diet, you're doing all the things right, you're right, you're losing weight, but you're not maintaining your muscle mass, you're losing muscle weight also. Yeah, that's like renovating the school and you're closing down a hallway. Like you, you, you're, you shut, you literally shut down classrooms. Yep. So now you have all the same stuff, but you have less less classrooms available because your muscles aren't there.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

That's what you know, they're burning anyway. So, no, it's true. It's like, I mean, so now you're just and then you're just really having to do more with less classrooms. I mean, you're just having to so you eat, or even the same thing with less classrooms. You can't do as well. You can't, you can't. So the truth is is that we're, you know, we're just trying to keep you know everything good while you're losing weight. And then whether you're at your at your at your goal weight, or whether you're just looking to add some insulin sensitivity, whether you're looking to like make your body process more efficiently, get moving.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Yeah, process the glucose, process the energy, make the food that you do eat uh work in an efficient way and a healthy way, and not all get stored in the auditorium. Yeah, because that auditorium is rough. All right. Uh, I think that's so hopefully that's it. I hope that I hope that's enlightening a little bit. I don't know if our analogies land with everybody, but um, but I think it's an important thing to try and understand a little bit about what we're talking about. When we say, you know, it increases insulin sensitivity, that's a good thing. Uh insulin resistance, it's a bad thing, and and how your body handles this. It really is it really is the key then of of what we're talking about of like losing weight and all those things. It's it's about how your body is managing this energy that it has and and uh and not just storing it in the auditorium. Yeah. So great. We hope you're healthier ever after. Absolutely. What else have we got? That's it for this week. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

We'll talk more about all of it uh as we go along, and and you'll see that like so many of the subjects we talk about um intertwine with everything else that we talk about. It's like it's hard sometimes to narrow it down to one specific subject because it really all is interrelated. It's not like we're like talking about the same thing again and again, and we kind of are, but but it's I think it's helpful.

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It helps me. Take care. Take care.