Episode 7: The Episode We Meant to Record. Much sooner.

Recorded on Tuesday, March 3rd & Friday, March 6th.

In this episode:

• Catching up and the episode we meant to record (sorry we're so late!)
• Anthony's Birthday in Portland, Maine
• Black History meets LGBTQ+
• Straightwashing, whitewashing, and misrepresentation in America
• Watched "Call Me By Your Name" & that Armie Hammer problem
• Watching "Pose"
• Talking about and educating ourselves about trans & transphobia*
• SAVE Act
• ICE Whistleblower (FUCK ICE!)
• Confused about Iran
• More Epstein fuckery
• Mamdani 

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Music: Stick The Landing by Everet Almond

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:05

Hey! Carlos! Hey, Anthony! We are back. Just in time. Well, I mean, we are late.

SPEAKER_05 0:16

We skipped a week.

SPEAKER_07 0:30

Um, but I I but just couldn't make it work. Well, we had a lot going on. Yeah, it was too much happening. We we had my birthday. Yes. We had um me in vicious pain of sciatica. Yeah, we couldn't get you to sit or stand or think.

SPEAKER_05 0:47

But the thing is, we did record an episode, but it was pretty weak. Yeah. Right? We were both like, it's this is not a good episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 0:56

Well, the vibe wasn't there because um, you know, when you're not feeling well and you're in pain, I mean, um, when when we were doing that, I was standing up rocking back and forth.

SPEAKER_05 1:06

Like you are now still.

SPEAKER_07 1:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08

Keep your keep keep close to the mic. I'm close to the mic. You keep swaying away from the mic. But anyway, we did record an episode last week and it wasn't good, right? So I I even I was like, well, I said, hey, we need to do this over. That's and we tend to do that anyway. Like, we record more than once, and we're like, oh, that was a good rehearsal, you know? And then you're like, rehearsal? We gotta do that again, because you were in so much pain.

SPEAKER_07 1:37

So if we were like on television and we had a talk show, who would you blame? The executive producer? I don't know who I would. I'm not in that. I'm fucking blaming you. You're the executive producer.

SPEAKER_06 1:52

I know.

SPEAKER_07 1:53

I'm only playing. I'm only playing. So anyway, yeah, you know, that sciatica, you know, going on like a month of of pain and torture. It was more than that. Well, it it came out of nowhere. I don't I I can't recognize how it happened. Um, but the most severe pain and the uncomfortability, um, I mean, it wreaks havoc in your head.

SPEAKER_08 2:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:22

You know, I was I was walking with a guarded walk. I I was afraid to move any certain way. I couldn't get out of bed, literally holding on, holding on to walls. And I was ready to call an ambulance at one point. I just could not move. You were chewing ibuprofen like there was no tomorrow. Oh my god, it was starting to hurt eating it.

SPEAKER_05 2:42

My stomach, yeah. Yeah, and um, but then you got a hold of a medrol dose pack, some steroids. Yeah, yeah. And I forgot all about that as a treatment, really, because you know, we were trying to be conservative, conservative about it. Right. Um, and I was like, but then you know, it's been almost two months now.

SPEAKER_07 3:02

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 3:04

Uh so you did the dose pack, you're more than halfway done.

SPEAKER_07 3:09

Yeah, halfway. I I did six, five. Right. I gotta do four tomorrow. And now today you're like, right now, you're like, it's like it never happened. Yeah. Yeah, I I just said it to you before we got on the air. Is like God fucking test to me. Is this some sick joke that it is like like I couldn't I couldn't move, I couldn't walk. I was screaming in pain out of nowhere, and now it's gone. I feel normal. It's so weird because it it's like a cruel joke. It really is a cruel joke. But they say it could come back. Like I could wake up in the morning and it could be here again.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Just keep stretching it, finish the dose pack. Oh man. Hopefully, this will be the end of it. God, you know. I hope so. But anyway, we this is like a packed episode. We're probably gonna call episode seven the episode that we meant to record. Because, like I said, it wasn't great, you know, and we didn't want to put trash out there. No, but anyway, um, it was Anthony's birthday on the 21st. Uh yeah, last weekend. Was it last weekend or the weekend before last weekend before last, yeah, because now we're in March. Oh my god. I know. Beware of the eyes of March. Yeah, but you know what? Fucking New England with the snow today, like it started snowing like this afternoon, yeah, during rush hour, this evening, and I'm like, oh fuck, here we go. Because my 30-minute, 40-minute commute, one hour and a half to go 11 miles. My god.

SPEAKER_07 4:37

What the we had we had uh 38 minutes from Salem to Lynn. Um 4.1 miles.

SPEAKER_05 4:47

Yeah, that's absurd. It's just too many people here now.

SPEAKER_07 4:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:51

Well, it was snowing also. But anyway, we did go to Portland.

SPEAKER_07 4:55

Oh a blast, what a blast, what a beautiful city, a beautiful place, right? And um you know, not not for nothing, but Portland not too long ago was a shithole. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, it was like torn up and neglected. Yeah, yeah. Like they rebuilt it, man.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

I would imagine that a lot of these port cities were like the yeah, they just didn't get a lot of attention because they were just there for industry. Right, right. Is my what I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_07 5:24

But now everybody wants to be in those old brick buildings with the lofts. And uh and the new ones are going up, you know. Yeah. But they don't have the charm as the old lofts, like, you know, with with the the natural brick and the high sailings and and the uh you know the heating systems different. It's just they're just and they're expensive over there. You know, they're the their rents are insane. For Maine, it's it's it's crazy to you know that that one unit that they said $18,500 a month for a three-bedroom in Portland, Maine. $18,000? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_07 6:02

Are you serious? Well, there was the the the studio, 777 square feet. That was forty seven hundred dollars a month. That is some fuckery. Come on, who can afford to say you know what it is? It's it's corporations, you know, buying uh, you know, three or four spots in you know, so people can live where they work or whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 6:26

I I mean the pay isn't great in Portland either. It depends what you're doing. Well, no, because I looked at nursing jobs there and I would what what did I say? Or we get like a 40% pay cut. My God. And it's gonna cost more than where we live now, which is insane. But I did love the city, super liberal.

SPEAKER_07 6:45

Oh my god, great food.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

You can't go wrong really anywhere you eat.

SPEAKER_07 6:49

One restaurant was better than the other.

SPEAKER_05 6:51

Yeah, it just kept getting better, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 6:56

You know what was funny, Carlos?

SPEAKER_05 6:57

What's that?

SPEAKER_07 6:58

We were stumbling into restaurants, like we didn't even, you know, we we walked by the um the the clam shack there. What was the name of that?

SPEAKER_05 7:08

That clam shack. Um, what was the name of that place? It was really good. Yeah, yeah. I can't remember the name of it right now.

SPEAKER_07 7:16

Yeah, we stumbled there and we stumbled into the um the noodle house. Oh, yeah. We stumbled into that place, that place was good, and they're very well known. Yeah, I know I was starting to get the feeling that every restaurant is good.

SPEAKER_05 7:31

Yes, you know, you can't go wrong anywhere you eat there, right? Right. Like there's a lot of competition in that city. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Big tourism there during the summer.

SPEAKER_07 7:39

And they don't they're very creative, they don't mess around. No, they don't.

SPEAKER_05 7:43

And we went during the off season, right? Right, yeah. And so basically, the cost of the hotel room for a long weekend would have been the cost of it for one night in the summertime. Yeah, which is insanity. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_07 7:56

But we did get snow while we were there. Yeah, but you want to know something? It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 8:00

It was beautiful snow.

SPEAKER_07 8:02

It really was. Like we we were walking in the snow during the storm. Yeah, you know, and and um we were both amazed on how well they removed the snow. Oh, yeah. Next day it was like it never happened. Yeah, yeah. It's like you know, they get out these little plows that they're they're made for like the sidewalks, and they plow from the building to the curb, and and and and then they get the plows that uh plow from curb to curb. So they just like get rid of the snow and they and they salt it all too, you know. So so when you get up and once the sun is out, man, you're you're you're right back down to uh those beautiful shiny bricks. Every every sidewalk all around Greater Portland is well, the old side of Portland. Yeah, well, you know, um the port, the old port. Um, but there's that's a lot of area.

SPEAKER_08 8:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:57

You know, a lot of area to have to still have brick walkways. You know?

SPEAKER_05 9:02

While in Portland, um it was funny because on your birthday, we were walking around. I think we had other plans, like maybe hit the museum or something, and like but there was a bunch of protests because it was on the weekend.

SPEAKER_07 9:14

Yeah, that was on Saturday.

SPEAKER_05 9:16

Yeah, that was pretty funny. Very liberal city, yeah, very anti-ICE, very like progressive, yeah, you know, human rights. Um, and like, yeah. They knew what they were talking about, they really did. These people were fuck around, nonviolent, it was very organized, you know, people were not messing with each other, which was pleasant to see. I was very happy that you know that I didn't feel unsafe. Exactly, you know, but again, but then again, ICE wasn't around yet. Right, right. Right. I like I think they caught wind that they were next. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 9:55

And it was nice the way, you know, the organizers they had um they had uh the microphone set up with the speakers, you know, and it was open mic, anybody can get up there, say whatever.

SPEAKER_05 10:08

Yeah, and they had ready-made protest signs and woman was singing her anti um MAGA songs, yeah. You know, how what did she say about the GOP Wants You Dead? Yeah, like the GOP Wants You Dead. It was so funny, yeah. But uh I thought it was really funny, but there's also you know a lot of support for Gaza as well, yeah, you know, and like the problems with that we have with Israel. And my God. Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 10:36

I'll tell you, Carlos, what a difference a couple of days makes. Yeah, you know, what what's going on now? It's it's just bizarre, you know. There's so much going on um, you know, in the Middle East, you know, the the unrest over there is just it's intense.

SPEAKER_05 10:52

Oh, yeah, a lot of intensity these days. God, but what we meant to do last month, folks, was you know, it's February, short month, and we did record about this. You know, we never got to acknowledge that it was Black History Month. And it's funny because we we were gonna do this in the beginning of the month, but other things came up, and we talked about other things in the last episode, right? Um but the the thing about black history was you thought that it was LGBTQ history here, when in reality it was LGBTQ history in the UK, right? Right. And it's black history here and in Canada. Okay. So an interesting thought came to my head was oh, who are some black figures in history who are also LGBTQ? And wow, you know, thank God for these search engines, because I was like, I wouldn't have been able to do this. Oh, really? What what what Carlos is gonna share right now? It's gonna open your eyes. No, it I was kind of blown away. So pioneers of civil rights included Bayard Rustin. So this guy was a strategist and the primary organizer of the 1963 March on Washington. So he was basically with Martin Luther King, right, right, in the civil rights movement, and he was the one who pushed hey, we can protest, but we got to do this peacefully. Right. And which they did. Yes, and Marsha P. Johnson, and this is a self-identified drag queen and central figure in the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. Okay. Also, Stormy De La Love De Larvier, uh, also another uh Butch lesbian and a drag performer uh who scuffled with the police is often cited as the spark that ignited the stonewall uprising. Yeah. Do you remember? Because after after we read this, we're like, oh, I'm kind of ashamed that I didn't know much about my own gay history, right? Right. And what is it that she said? Why don't you guys do something? Yeah. And that's what started it. Yeah, right. That's what the that's when this the fight started.

SPEAKER_07 13:02

Well, you know, it's it's crazy, but there's a history to everything. And like, um, you know, there's probably a lot more to gay history. It's just not documented. No. I mean, s someday there's gonna be a real you know, something strong, a real good documentary to really take people through. I hope so. You know, uh being gay in America, you know, and what having started and like like little things like um somebody if you think about it, Carlos, somebody uh invented the flag, the rainbow flag. Yes, I forget how that came about. Yeah, yeah, but something that simple, you know? Uh you know, can you imagine if whoever did that patented it?

SPEAKER_05 13:48

You know? I mean, it's a big symbol and it re represents the community. Yeah. But it's made it's gone through some changes, you know, because now it um it includes a trans community as well.

SPEAKER_07 13:59

And there's so many variations of the of the flag now, which which I think it should be just one flag for everybody.

SPEAKER_05 14:10

And I think that's what they're trying to do.

SPEAKER_07 14:12

Yeah, because it's confusing, you know, it's separating.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:17

Um yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:19

Yeah, and other like notable people, you know, James Baldwin, um, there's Audrey Lorde. You know, these are writers and intellectuals. Like Audrey Lorde was a poet, you know, Lorraine Hansbury, uh, first black woman to have a play performed on Broadway. Well, A Raisin in the Sun, which I absolutely loved that play. Such a good play. And then, of course, in music, there was Gertrude Ma Rainey, who is a blues singer known as the mother of the blues, and there's Betsy Smith, who was uh mentored by Gertrude Ma Rainey, and she became the empress of the blues. And, you know, there's some there were some uh documentaries that say that they might have had a relationship, even, you know, over the years. Uh also there's Alvin Ailey, the dancer, the choreographer, dance company, and then of course Sylvester, you know. Here we go.

SPEAKER_07 15:33

Man, I keep it on. I danced to this song 77, 78. Okay, it was 78. Was it 78? Yeah, because I remember I was in high school. And how could you not move to disco? For fuck's sake. I had that on vinyl. Wow. Yeah, on a uh a 45 disco single, a promotional copy. The thing is, Anthony, you didn't know you were gay then. Come on now. I didn't, I didn't.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

I guess disco was for everybody.

SPEAKER_07 16:02

No, the disco days was you know, I was out fucking girls.

SPEAKER_05 16:06

Yeah, oh dear. I'm sorry about my cough. I have this annoying post nasal drip. Forgive me. I will do my best to kind of cue it out. Anyway, it's a good idea to acknowledge uh black history and LGBTQ. I know we're a little late, but the thing is, these people should be acknowledged every day. Absolutely. Like women, right? I think there's like, oh, an international women's day coming, but come on, every day should be women's day. Too many national this, national that days out there.

SPEAKER_06 16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:41

The reason why we talked about black history and LGBTQ, because we're we're seeing, or now we're beginning to notice because now we're watching movies and we're watching documentaries together, you know, and a lot of these things um bring up the idea of whitewashing and straightwashing in America, right? And basically in America, these are forms of cultural erasure. Uh, they basically prioritize white heterosexual narratives, you know, and a lot of times they are in gay movies, you know, gay-themed movies, for example, um, white actors are casted, right? Uh in non-white roles, but also um there are also, you know, straight actors playing gay. Yeah just to get that Academy Award, right? Um, but the thing is it it you know, it's straight washing and whitewashing, you know, what that does is that you know, it makes people feel marginalized and less important. Like they don't matter, like we don't matter. Yeah, you know, what we the gay actor wasn't good enough, right? You're not important, you're not important, you know, and it's it's really something that we should be mindful of. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_07 17:53

You know, it'd be being non you know like that, it's like like second nature, you know? Yeah, yeah, it's like you don't even think about it, you know. And you should.

SPEAKER_05 18:04

Yeah, you should. And the thing is, like it the it's I guess everyone is so used to how things like being straight was so normalized, right? Right. And how like being white was being so normalized, and that being what America is about, but it's not right, right? When I was growing up, America was this melting pot of all these races and cultures, you know, and now we're seeing this disturbing trend going on in the last year, especially.

SPEAKER_07 18:33

Right. Well, then again, you know, you're looking at it uh through the eyes of somebody who lived in New York City, you know, uh a melting pot. Um, you know, where I grew up, uh in East Boston, it wasn't so much of a melting pot. Um, you know, Boston was segregated, uh, you know, like the blacks were in uh you know, majority of the blacks were in Dorchester and Roxbury. Um the whites were in South Boston, Charlestown, East Boston. Yeah, you know, um like like in East Boston where I grew up, um honestly, there was probably in the in in the uh seventies, you know, to the eighties, maybe twenty-five families, blacks. Wasn't a lot. You know, it was it there was a lot of uh predominantly Italian and then the Irish. Um there were more um, I would say Portuguese than than blacks, and the the black families they were the uh in in the housing projects.

SPEAKER_05 19:47

But interesting thing, the Italians and the Irish were also marginalized growers. Absolutely, right? I remember seeing documentaries in the past or reading stories like how Irish or Italian need not apply to certain children.

SPEAKER_07 20:02

I was called a guinea wop so many times. Yeah, you know what a WAP means, right? I think you told me recently that I didn't know what it was. W without papers. Yes, now even like even you know, they were Irish WAPs, but for some reason the Italians were guinea wops.

SPEAKER_05 20:18

It just kind of stuck.

SPEAKER_07 20:19

Yeah, yeah. Because I always thought WAP was Italian. Yeah, yeah, but you know something? It never when when somebody called me a guinea, it didn't bother me. For some reason, I didn't take it as a racial slur.

SPEAKER_05 20:33

Uh it's not nice.

SPEAKER_07 20:34

Well, yeah, it's it apparently, you know, it's meant to harm, but it didn't bother me. Yeah, but we don't say those words anymore. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_05 20:42

Yeah, it's just not respectable.

SPEAKER_07 20:44

Yeah, like a wife beater. I mean, you know, the the tank these sleeves. Yeah, a tank top.

SPEAKER_05 20:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 20:50

Uh you know, people call them wife beaters, but they were to me, they were guinea tees before they were wife beaters. What? You never heard them called guinea tees?

SPEAKER_05 21:03

I know, but now I think about it and I think about moonstruck.

SPEAKER_07 21:07

Yeah. No, everybody's cage's character and uh you know, growing growing up, you you wore you know, if you wore shorts, you had a guinea tee. If you had jeans, you had a guinea tee. If you were going out at night, you had a dress shirt with a guinea tee, you know, underneath it. It was um standard equipment.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

Yeah. But important to keep in mind, you know, that we are a nation of many cultures, races. Yeah, that's for sure. Right. Um, and we gotta live together, man, you know. And so when you're whitewashing and straight washing, you know, these practices um they serve to maintain a specific sanitized feel of things, you know. And it's not accurate, right, to the American identity, in my opinion. Yeah. Um, so, and like I said before, you know, people are are misrepresented. Or they're underrepresented, right? Um like I've seen we're seeing disturbing things happening right now, you know, with this administration, how they are trying to say that slavery, you know, didn't happen. Right. God. And I'm like, no, you need to own that ugly part of our history.

SPEAKER_07 22:23

You know what the the the white people, their comeback is blacks own slaves also. No, no, that stop it.

SPEAKER_05 22:32

That's ridiculous. Really, right? You just cannot, oh, I can't with this with some people. Yeah. You know, because the whole point, I guess, should be, you know, understand your history so you don't repeat that shit again. Right, right.

SPEAKER_07 22:45

When I was in the sixth grade, um we we had a homework assignment to watch Roots. We had to watch it.

SPEAKER_05 22:56

That was fantastic.

SPEAKER_07 22:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:57

That was in this that was like 79, 80?

SPEAKER_07 23:00

No, no, no, no, no. No, no. I was in the Samuel Adams Elementary School.

SPEAKER_05 23:04

Oh, it was before that.

SPEAKER_07 23:06

Yeah, yeah. I was in elementary school.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

Maybe they showed it again because I saw it as a kid.

SPEAKER_07 23:10

Yeah, so how how old was I in the sixth grade? 13? Yeah. So so you're looking at uh, you know, 1973, 74? Yeah. I'm gonna Google it real quick. I'm um now I'm I'm curious.

SPEAKER_05 23:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 23:30

Uh to see what year Roots came out. 19, it concluded in 1977. I thought it was earlier than that.

SPEAKER_05 23:43

No, 77. Dang. Yeah, so a mini-series from 1977. From Alex Haley's novels. Yeah. Wow. I thought it was amazing, you know? And uh, and it was very eye-opening and oh rough.

SPEAKER_07 24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

I remember, you know, like people were treated this way. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 24:04

Yeah, so so I thought it was elementary school, it was junior high for me.

SPEAKER_05 24:08

Yeah, so a lot of this shit is coming back, and the sad part is it was always there. Yeah, and now it's coming back, yeah, right, and legit, like the scary thing is, you know, they're doing this for against the Jewish population as well, saying that the Holocaust didn't exist. Like, what the fuck? Like, what is happening? Yeah, right. And then I I I think recently there was a post on Reddit with this guy who was wearing a swastika t-shirt at the market basket. What a way to catch a beat. Oh, you would hope so, but you know, that's assault, so we really can't do that, right? Um, but I believe that Nazis should be made uncomfortable. Absolutely. I'd call them the fuck out. No doubt. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 24:53

No doubt, call them out.

SPEAKER_05 24:56

You know?

SPEAKER_07 24:56

Really?

SPEAKER_05 24:57

But um, anyway, we uh recently watched uh Call Me by Your Name. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 25:04

Incredible, great movie, great movie. I mean, like, I'll jump right to the ending, man. Like the ending of that was was a tear jerker. Oh, you were crying. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, the the camera focused on him. Um, you know, just he was like nailing at the fireplace. Hell yeah. And and yeah, and staring, staring in the uh into the fire, and uh with clear eyes, and as it went on, he just you could see the tears slowly coming down his face. It's great acting. Yeah, yeah. But to watch the movie and see that happen, it was epic. It was it really was. It was heart wrenching.

SPEAKER_05 25:44

What a gut punch when he was like, I'm getting or he was uh engaged. Right. And he said that to the parents when they were on the phone, not to him. Yeah. And it's like, oh like, what?

SPEAKER_06 25:56

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_07 25:57

And and uh the location of of where the film was made in Italy. Yeah, some of the scenes and the in the the scenery, just eye dropping.

SPEAKER_05 26:09

Yeah, I saw that it was central Italy, so I was confused because I was like, isn't that the Mediterranean? I'm not sure. Yeah, I just have to I had to I didn't dig too deep, but I was like, oh, it's beautiful scenery. Real nice, yeah. Yeah, but um, but that's an example of what we just talked about, right? Straight washing. Yeah, because you have straight actors playing that, yeah, you know, and I saw it once before, but like when it came out, I think it was 2017. I saw it, but it's been coming up again on Reddit, on my Reddit feed. I see Call Me by Your Name coming up, and people are talking about it. Yeah, what sparked it? Do you know? I don't know, I don't think it ever went away. Yeah, um, but there was a recent viewing in an LA theater, maybe a few weeks ago, and people went to go see it on a big screen and loved it again. Yeah, you know, so it was a beautiful love story. But when I saw it the first time, um, I wanted to watch it again. But there was that whole army hammer problem. You know, they have one that played Oliver, right? Right, right? And woman eater.

SPEAKER_07 27:17

Oh, women what? Eater. Oh, he wants to eat women, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:21

Like I think he literally said, I want to eat your flesh or something like that.

SPEAKER_07 27:24

Sick motherfucker, man.

SPEAKER_05 27:26

Well, I thought that too, and it did kind of ruin his career for a bit. Disturbingly so. But the thing is, like, I don't think there was any evidence to back that up either. I don't, yeah, I didn't really dig that deep. I didn't I did a search on it again recently, um, after we watched the movie, because I was like, what really happened? I know he got he was married to Elizabeth Chambers, and then they got a divorce, they have kids, um, but and he had to drop out from a lot of films. Like he was supposed to do a film with Jennifer Lopez, that didn't work out. There were other roles that he lost, and I think he got dropped by his agent. And at one point he was selling, I want to say uh real estate, I forget. No, timeshares.

SPEAKER_07 28:11

Yeah, like he was in some island selling timeshares. That's that's crazy when you get dropped by your agent. Yeah, they're the ones who are looking for customers, you know, and they're like, fuck him.

SPEAKER_05 28:22

But apparently, I guess he's you know, people have short memories and he's making a comeback.

SPEAKER_07 28:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:28

Americans in general have short memories. I think people in general, humans, yeah, don't have very short memories. I mean, look at this election that just happened last year, right? Last year, like people forgot what happened.

SPEAKER_07 28:42

You know, you know what, you know what it is too? Time goes by. And the old saying, you know, time hails all things, you know.

SPEAKER_05 28:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:51

So that's like September 11th, you know. Um, at first, you know, the first year, second year, fifth year, you know, it was still fresh in in in in uh in the eyes of Americans and people all over the world, but it just gets watered down through the years, you know, and it just becomes another day in history.

SPEAKER_05 29:12

I don't think we're gonna ever forget about that trauma that happened in New York.

SPEAKER_07 29:17

No, no, you won't forget, but it's not it's not like really out there the way it used to be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:24

Time time goes by and heals wounds. Yeah, right. Yeah. Uh we're also watching Pose. Unbelievable. We just finished the first season. There's two more seasons. Colorful. It's great. Oh my god. What an iconic show. God again from tw I want to say 2018, yeah, 2019, or it ended in 2019.

SPEAKER_07 29:48

And you know, I could you use the word costumes? Like, no, the way they dress. They I guess because in the movie it's costume.

SPEAKER_05 29:58

Well, because they were doing the ballroom scene, yeah, yeah, right. But I wasn't really aware of that the way it was. I guess I paid attention to it more this time, yeah. Right, and those are some beautiful women in this show blow your mind, yeah, mind-boggling, you know, and like and it was kind of cool because you know, that show was bringing trans to the forefront, yeah, right. Unapetically, you know, um, also put them in a good light. But I I um I'm kind of like ashamed that I just don't know my own history, and I'm always like, oh, let me teach you. That's why I was saying before. I'm not a great representative of any of this stuff, but it takes place in the 80s.

SPEAKER_07 30:46

Yeah, it's all it's all new to me. All new to me.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

Takes place in the 80s, talks about that, or it's about the ballroom culture in New York City, right? And I forget which part of New York City, probably Greenwich Village or something, or the meat packing district. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_07 31:02

It had to be well hidden somewhere.

SPEAKER_05 31:05

But you know, they were underground, right? They had this ballroom culture where they have houses, and these houses were for people who were rejected by their families, which I thought was a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_08 31:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 31:18

You know, but it's a very feel-good show, which I like. It's amazing that something like that went on, and it was true. Like, you know, the the houses and you know, you had to earn your way into the houses and yeah, and you had to compete for the for the prizes.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

Yeah, it was a big deal. It sure was.

SPEAKER_08 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

And um, but it was so feel-good that that uh the house of uh evangelista, yeah. There were, you know, she's like the perfect mom and raising these kids, you know, mom and air quotes, you know. Um, and she herself was trans, but it's kind of it's it's kind of cool how the story talks about that, you know, about uh the ballroom culture, yeah, and how a lot of it was predominantly trans. Yeah, but it also like merged with what was going on with HIV AIDS during the time. Yeah, and there was no cure in the early 80s, right? Um, so scary times, right? Absolutely, yeah. But I don't know how they did it, but they managed to make something fun and beautiful out of it. Yeah, they did, you know, and your favorite character.

SPEAKER_07 32:26

Oh my god, my man. Yeah, pray tell. He's a hot shit, man. You really I tell you that show has uh some of the bo the the the best one-liners it really does. You know, I I wish I had uh written some of them down, you know. There's one there's one after another, you know, not only from him, but you know from a lot of them, right?

SPEAKER_05 32:48

They're vicious like series one-liners, but yeah, but what's funny is like they aged well, some of those one-liners. So they they would still work today. Absolutely, yeah. Pretty good insults. What I do love about the show, I mean, uh, other than the ballroom scenes and the costumes, you know, it's feel good, and they they developed the character so quickly and beautifully. Like you actually gave a shit about these characters.

SPEAKER_07 33:15

Yeah, you know, it it totally blew my mind how you know I looked differently at trans until I seen the show. I always looked at them like um almost freaks of nature, you know. But now, like, well I'm getting educated on them.

SPEAKER_08 33:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 33:36

You know, I've I've never seen that side where, you know, I always thought that a trans, you know, they they they dressed up like a girl, you know, and they weren't, you know, you could tell that they were a guy, you know, yeah. Like, you know, back in the day. But you know, today's trans, they're gorgeous. Oh, yeah. They're they're beautiful. It's nothing like when I was growing up. Like, you know, that you you you see a trans and you would know that's that's a guy. That's a guy.

SPEAKER_05 34:06

I mean, you know, it's come a long way. Yeah, right. The treatments, right? They they I guess uh, you know, trans are transitioning earlier now, you know, and that's when we had this discussion before, like when did we feel that it was too early for someone to transition, right? You know, and and I guess we disagreed on this, but in my opinion, it's none of our business when the person or the family decides that their child wants to do this, you know. Um because the thing is, like I was pretty ignorant about it too, you know, um because I guess when I was younger, um they were more like drag queens.

SPEAKER_06 34:49

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

But it's not, right? Drag in my understanding, being a drag queen is you are a man dressed as a woman. We know this, yeah, right. But someone who's trans is actually a woman. They're in the wrong body, yeah. You know, and and I think that that show See now you just enlightened me.

SPEAKER_07 35:11

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

Yeah, but that's I didn't know that. But I think that's what the show was trying to highlight, yeah, you know, and that's why like that main character, Electra, you know, how she you know detested her penis, you know. I think a few of them detested that, yeah, you know, and they wanted to be real women, you know. So the surgeries I think were started probably before that, you know. But I know at the hospital that I'm at now, you know, there is gender-affirming surgeries these days for both, whether you want to transition to a male or to a female, which is incredible.

SPEAKER_07 35:45

Is there an age where I mean, obviously if they're underage, they have to have consent. Absolutely. But didn't they pass something like uh, you know, um some sort of a law that if if if if if somebody wants it, like uh they can do it at 14 or 12 or 14?

SPEAKER_05 36:03

I think it really depends where you live in the country. Really. Because in some states right now, you know, we were talking about the transphobia earlier, you know, like um places like Texas, you know, like you can't even get an abortion, you know, even for rape. Wow. Let alone like get gender-affirming care that you need, you know, whether it's like being seen by a mental health professional, like a psychologist or a psychiatrist that's trying to help you through this, you know, and forget about getting surgeries. Like these people are getting prosecuted for crimes now. Yeah, you know, and then now when you're um, I guess they're in situations now when kids are getting this care, the the clinician can be prosecuted and they can accuse them for child abuse. Wow. Yeah, it's wild, you know. So it's all this hate, but shows like Post, it's it's really like, you know, I think it brought that to the forefront and it made it beautiful. And I think those performers did such an awesome job. I wish another show would come out like this. Yeah, okay, to bring them back to the forefront. I think that would be really incredible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:16

And and you know, it is it is a show, and there is, you know, hair and makeup involved, you know.

SPEAKER_08 37:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:23

And um it's like the these, you know, the trans how can I say this? Can they do the makeup just as well as you know the the makeup artists on the show to make themselves look like that? I think so. I mean, because they were they were like beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 37:49

I mean, think about it this way. A w a woman, right, would have need a makeup artist for a TV show and a movie as well.

SPEAKER_08 37:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:59

You know what I'm saying? So and she would apply makeup on her own. A trans female would do the same. You know, they know what works for their skin tone, what they need to do to highlight what they need to highlight, or you know what I'm saying? Like they they would know, of course, because again, remember, they're women. Yeah, at the end of the day, they are women, right? Right. So they're still going to do the things that women, I guess, traditionally do or want to do. You know? I oh man, what what a I I've watched the show before, but it's so much more meaningful now to me.

SPEAKER_07 38:37

Yeah, how was that segment where the guy was um was going along with everything that that that that uh the girl wanted, you know, apartments, uh car, you know.

SPEAKER_05 38:51

Oh that's the straight actor, uh, when the the beautiful trans woman, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 38:57

The white male straight guy. Yep, yep. And and and you know, the way she she had a dick. Yeah. She had a dick, and yeah, like and once he found out, he was like, Jail's over.

SPEAKER_05 39:12

No, no, no, no, it wasn't. He he was okay with it. Because remember the conversation that they had in the room when they first met? He was like, Oh, take your clothes off, you know, and take everything off. And she said no. She didn't want to take it off, right? But then he insisted, and I I guess that's how it went. But it wasn't like a violent insistence, it was more like, please do that for me, sort of thing. I guess I I can't remember exactly. Yeah, but the bottom line is she did take off her panties, you know, and then she was like, Oh, you know, I'm trying to save enough money or so I can get my little friend out of there. Yeah. And then he commented, Well, it's not that little, and he didn't mind. Yeah, right. But it but in another episode later, you know, he discussed or or it came up in their discussion in one of their conversations, that he was attracted to that. Yeah, like he they didn't understand it himself, but he saw a porno mag that had what they quote unquote called she males, yeah, and that's what he liked. And that's where she got upset with him and was like, Oh, you think I'm like a pornomag? Right, get the fuck out, you know.

SPEAKER_07 40:29

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 40:31

So, but I guess there is a population of men that do like that, you know, and and I mean, when I hear a lot of other uh podcasts, or when I read some articles and some stories, and how like, you know, during Charlie Kirk's, you know, when he had that rally at that college before his death, you know, before his I'm gonna call it a murder because it that's what it was, and he should not have sure what that should not have happened to him. That's terrible, you know. I didn't like him as a human, but no one deserves to die like that. That's terrible. But um, you know, grinder was crashing during that time in that area, yeah, right? Because you have a lot of like these people who are in the closet, you know, and I guess they feel less gay if they were to, you know, get involved with a trans female as opposed to just a straight-up male, right? Or they just like a more feminine male. It you know what? It I'm not here to judge, but people like what they like, you know, and like shit should be okay. Like if the world would probably be a lot easier if people just calmed the fuck down and just made themselves happy and just like went with what who you know what they truly wanted and who they truly were. Yeah, you know. So watching a show like Pose, even though I feel it brought that, it made it beautiful, it brought them to the forefront. Um, but it was also pretty historically accurate, too, and how the government was withholding or not withholding, they probably didn't bother to do the research for a cure, you know, because it was gay people. It was a gay cancer, so to speak, right? Which to me was so fucking sad that they did this to us. They just didn't give a shit because they were like, we don't want them around anyway, let them die. And they did.

SPEAKER_07 42:33

Yeah, and and that's what they're doing today, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 42:36

The the the administration, you know, and it's coming, they were sliding back, crazy, which is crazy, you know.

SPEAKER_07 42:43

History recreating itself again, yeah, repeating, repeating itself, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 42:48

So it we finished the first season, it was a beautiful season, and now the second season we haven't started yet. I mean, we tried to start it, but then we kept falling asleep, and we're like, okay, we gotta make time to watch the second season to see how this goes. Um, but you know, watching pose, you know, watching Call Me by Your Name, I'm glad that we're doing this because I'm re-watching a lot of these movies and I'm like, wow, I didn't pay attention to a lot of this stuff. It's for some reason it's more meaningful to me now. And so here comes like the documentaries about Stonewall Inn. Um, because I needed to understand the uprising too, right? Um, we did talk about some uh black history LGPTQ figures, right? And like Marsha P. Johnson, uh what's uh Storme Delavere uh were the ones who started that uprising from the sounds of it, right? Um and they tr and they're trans. You know, they're the ones that like made it happen. And because of that, we have the rights that we do now, and it kind of just happened at the same time the civil rights movement was going on, too. So um, but I'm embarrassed that I never paid attention to that.

SPEAKER_07 44:05

Yeah, I was totally in the dark because that wasn't my life, you know.

SPEAKER_05 44:09

Yeah, but the other thing too, like, you know what we noticed? What something that did shock you though is that how gay men treated trans. Yeah. They weren't part of the community, right? Which is really fucked up.

SPEAKER_07 44:23

Yeah, I thought everybody was like one big happy family under the rainbow.

SPEAKER_05 44:27

Me too. You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 44:29

Because I I got along with the lesbians and I got along with the colours. It seems like today they they all segregate themselves. Yeah. You know, the the uh the gay guys against the lesbians, the lesbians against the the trans, the trans against the gays. It's like crazy.

SPEAKER_05 44:47

But the thing is, like, it's so we went from that, right? Um, the second season we started watching, you know, that's where the song Madonna song Vogue came from, was from this culture, right? They were voguing, I guess, or they I guess she labeled it. I I I don't remember how it came about, but it was exciting for them that this happened because now they're being recognized. Yeah, right. And now we're regressing now. Right. Now we're looking at transphobia. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 45:18

Um, you know what blows my mind is that you know, with the with the uh with the trans people, you know, uh if if they have colored hair, they're dangerous.

unknown 45:33

I I don't understand that.

SPEAKER_07 45:35

That's so fucking weird. Yeah. It's stupid. Well, I I could see where it's coming from because you know, some of the uh the attacks that happened recently, um you know. Oh, like the shooting and uh the people that got caught had colored hair and they were trans, you know. But they're labeled, you know.

SPEAKER_05 45:59

Yeah, they're labeled as terrorists now, but they're not, okay, because the trans population is one percent of the population, right? And the administration has been vilifying them to I probably distract from the real issues, Epstein, right? Epstein, you know. Um, but the real minority that's really destroying this country, not the trans, not us minorities or people of color, I should say, um, but the billionaires. Yeah, right. That one percent that's got control of everything, they are making our lives extra miserable. All right. So be kind to the trans community, please. They're not wrong, they're not the problem, okay? Um but right now, I just saw in Kansas um they're demanding that trans drivers surrender their licenses. Did you know this? No. Yeah, this is wild. Why? I don't know, but let me see. It's saying here that um if you receive this notice on Thursday, February 26, 2026, your current Kansas credential will no longer be valid. Additionally, please note that the legislature did not include a grace period for updating credentials. This means that once the law is officially enacted, your current credential will be invalid immediately, and you may be subject to additional penalties if you are operating a vehicle with a without a valid credential. Wow. Isn't that fucking wild? Why? Because they're they're taking away their rights. That's fucked up. That's what I'm saying. Like, this is bullshit. This is happening right now, you know. In Kansas These are people too. What the fuck? I mean Kansas anymore. I'm fucking Kansas right now. That's some bullshit, you know? Yeah. And so on Reddit, uh called the concerned job coach, and she's talking about let me see here.

SPEAKER_09 48:05

It is now illegal for trans people to drive in Kansas. I never say, like, please don't scroll. But for once in my very online life, I'm going to ask you to not scroll. This week, trans people in Kansas received letters that their IDs are now invalid with no grace period.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Hi, I'm Avery Rowland. I'm a transgender woman in Kansas, and today I got a letter from the driver's license bureau saying my license is invalid. It happened. I received my letter from the Kansas government saying that I need to change my driver's license. That's to mail.

SPEAKER_09 48:39

And will remain invalid unless they go to the DMV and get new IDs listing their sex assigned at birth. If they're caught driving with their current license, which affirms their identity, they could face a Class B misdemeanor, which carries up to six months in prison, of course, prisons that align with their sex assigned at birth. Now you may be wondering if there's no grace period, how can they drive themselves to the DMV to get a valid license or why didn't the government just send them valid IDs with those letters? Because giving trans people paths to freedom is not the point. Preventing them from participating in public life is. Much like how ICE has been arresting people when they show up for their lawful immigration appointments, the fascist regime is pretending that there's a pathway to becoming a persecuted minority the right way. When we know that that's not their goal. They don't want trans people driving or getting paid at their jobs or renting apartments or voting. And once they've achieved that, they will move on to another group. So if you're thinking, I'm not trans, what does this have to do with me? Allow me to put it another way. The same politicians pushing for ID requirements on voting day just singled out a group of people that they did not like and invalidated their IDs overnight. I think you should care about this because it happened to anyone. But if you also belong to any minoritized group and think that something similar couldn't happen to you when you become inconvenient to the fascist project, I don't really know what to tell you. It feels insane, frankly, to be speaking in these terms about a supposedly free country, but I've added a link to donate to Transcontinental Pipeline on my profile. It's an organization that is helping evacuate trans people in unsafe states to Colorado. And to trans people in Kansas, we love you, we need you. Please hang in there.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

Yeah. Is that the most insane thing? Wow. Like they need to basically seek asylum to other states.

SPEAKER_05 50:33

And what she said here in her about the voting act, you know, that SAVE Act is crazy too. Like basically show your papers so you can fucking vote.

SPEAKER_07 50:44

Right.

SPEAKER_05 50:44

Right. And what's funny about that, not funny ha ha, but funny oh, you know. Uh-oh. Right? Is that you know, when you register to vote, okay, you're at the DMV, you've already shown your credentials. So why do I have to show them again? Right? Because my real ID, in order for me to obtain the real ID, and here in Massachusetts, remember, everybody had to go to the real ID, which means everybody had to get their birth certificate and or passport, bring it to the DMV, prove who you are, right? Well, that's what I'm saying, you know. So already citizens, so where's the fraud and voting? Really? There isn't any fucking fraud in the voting, is my point. Right. Right. But of course, this let this uh administration is gonna preempt that right now because they want to, of course, when they lose, say that there was fraud, you know, and that's why they're trying to do crazy shit like nationalized voting. They they have a backup for everything, they're very not stupid. No, no, and they've outsmarted us.

SPEAKER_07 52:00

Okay, we're gonna say this and they're gonna say that, so we gotta come back with this, and then they're gonna say that, and then we're gonna come back with this. It just keeps going.

SPEAKER_05 52:07

And there's gonna be zero accountability because the president, remember, has immunity. Unbelievable, right? Because he got handed that on from like the first week by the Supreme Court. Now he gets away with everything, right? Everything that he wants to do. Yeah, yeah. He's got balls, very testy.

SPEAKER_07 52:26

Very testy. Fuck him. No, no, ball. He does, he's got balls. He thinks like that, you know, he's the end all. Like he is in charge of fucking humankind. I don't know, man. He's he's fucking he's sick, man.

SPEAKER_05 52:41

Well, he's very he's quite the narcissist, you know, but in but in a very bad way. Like in a very it's like narcissist in a very harmful way, and that's he's gonna like slowly, well, not slowly, he's destroying us very quickly right now. Oh my god. You know, which is really fucked up.

SPEAKER_07 53:00

He set this country back, Major League. He has set us back, yeah. Years and years, you know.

SPEAKER_05 53:07

And then there was that whole thing with ice, because I talked about it to you. Um, we were saying that that whistleblower, remember how we were like, what the fuck is this? Because one of the things that I was curious about was do they really get training like the police officers? And apparently, I guess they don't, because I rich originally before this whistleblower came out and said something, um I saw that they did have the same amount of hours and training and they had to understand the constitution and all this other stuff.

SPEAKER_07 53:43

Didn't they just cut out like um in their training? We was we were watching the news or something, and they cut out like 32 hours of training, and that was like on on uh de-escalating. Oh, right here.

SPEAKER_05 53:56

So this was on Reddit, and I think I showed you this. Let's hear this guy here.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

I swore an oath to uphold the constitution when I joined ICE on August 1st, 2021, as an assistant chief counsel. I followed that oath for four and a half years, working side by side with ICE officers. And I followed it when I resigned on February 13th, 2026, a little over a week ago, so that I could speak to you today. For the last five months, I watched ICE dismantle the training program, cutting 240 hours of vital classes from a 584-hour program. Classes that teach the Constitution, our legal system, firearms training, the use of force, lawful arrest, proper detention, and the limits of officers' authority. ICE is teaching cadets to violate the Constitution. And they were attempting to cloak it in secrecy by demanding that I lie about it. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 55:02

I know this is what America is coming to, guys. Like by the way, that wasn't me coughing. That was in the I was coughing in that video. But but that's what I'm saying. Like now gypsies, tramps, and thieves. Yeah, stop wondering why people are getting shot in cold blood and like being treated like animals and shit. Like it's fucking crazy out there.

SPEAKER_07 55:25

They cut that uh curriculum in half.

SPEAKER_05 55:28

Yeah, literally in half. Right? That's a lot of hours. Let me tell you something. I teach nurses, and if we cut 240 hours of their like clinical time, they're all gonna be fucking dangerous. They're not gonna be ready for anything, right? Right? Like, you can't just put someone in the job to be like, oh, you're gonna learn this shit on the job.

SPEAKER_07 55:48

No, no, no, no, no, no. And you're probably cutting out all the stuff that's hard to learn. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 55:54

Yeah, like how to like you know, uh de-escalate people, you need to know the law. You know, maybe you should like be safe with your firearm. Like, what is happening over here? Cowboys, and they're just hiring people out there. Cowboys because they need stormtroopers, you know, like it's not even about border security anymore, it's about terrorizing the public, you know, yeah, but the Gestapo. All right, like, yeah, this is this is a problem. Oh god, enough of that stuff. I can't keep talking about this.

SPEAKER_07 56:28

It's crazy when you think about it because you know, there's when whenever you see ice, right, there's always like 50 or 60 of them. So when they want somebody, they're getting them because there's nobody else around like to help. You know, there's so many of them. And and and they take you down in numbers. Yeah, you know? Yeah. It's it's not like a a team of five uh ice officers can go to a house and get somebody. They have to go in mass. Yeah, they have to because they you know they if they want them, they're gonna get them, and they they they take fucking a hundred people with them.

SPEAKER_05 57:05

The other night I was falling asleep, and you were like, look at it outside. What did you see?

SPEAKER_07 57:10

Oh, I seen four white vans, yep, with with ice on it, yeah. Driving down, and then down in the corner I seen all the uh the the blue lights. But they were on the first two, they had uh side railings. They were on, you know, they were outside holding on.

SPEAKER_05 57:29

Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 57:30

I think they were hummers, white hummers or vans. They they I never seen anything. Uh what type of van it was it? Weird. They were weird looking. A little bit wild, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if someday Trump empties the jails of the rapists and the murderers and he makes them ice.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

What do you think he'd well think about it for a second?

SPEAKER_07 57:53

I mean, that's what he's got out there now.

SPEAKER_05 57:54

Think about this. Because I've read this somewhere. Where did all those January 6ers end up? Because you don't hear anything about them now. He gave them all the badges. That's right. I mean, that's a scary thought, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, right? To think that, oh, you didn't commit any crimes. Yeah, you fucking did. Dude, you tried to disrupt an election. That's fucked up. Other things with ice, uh, DHS wants, you know, your Department of Homeland Security. Uh, they want social media companies to expose anti-ICE accounts. Uh so Facebook, yeah, Instagram, yeah, Reddit, even just handing your information over. Wow. If you say anything anti-ICE. Well, fuck you, ICE. Right? Come for me. Yeah, please. I don't know where where would they send me? Back to New York? Like, I've never like where are they gonna send me back to Italy? I right do it. Fuck. Do it. I got a bunch of idiots. I I don't know what they're gonna do, but fuck them anyway. Fuck ice. Absolutely. Ice could fuck all the way off. Right? Um, and they also want to buy warehouses and stuff to create detention centers. What does that sound like? Concentration camp camps, exactly, right? And that's what they're doing, you know. So this is this is craziness, right? And they wonder why they can't get funding. Yeah, fuckers. Like they don't need to fund them anymore. I think they're getting more funding than some of our military forces, right?

SPEAKER_07 59:31

Well, they have the second biggest budget next to the first biggest budget is the uh department of war. Oh, yeah. And the second biggest budget is ICE. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:42

So um, anyway, buy what you want, whatever you need. But like speaking of war, you know, you brought up war. Like, I'm still confused about Iran. I don't know like what to think about that. I'm still kind of confused about why did they bomb Iran? Like, where is this going? Yeah, you know, is this a like what are we doing here? What's the end game here, you know?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:16

You know, I just read today that they were following Khomeini for months. You know, they had him under surveillance and they were just waiting for the right time. And they knew um, you know, it was uh I guess it it happened on a Saturday, you know, yeah. Daylight. And um, you know, it was when Israel and the US attacked and uh there was there was a lot of high-level leaders in the meeting over there in Iran and uh they wiped out, you know, an entire regime, but did they? You know, because it's still the fighting's still going on. You know, if you get caught protesting on the street over there uh in favor of democracy, you're getting shot on the spot.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:00

But from what it sounds like, it's that's what the people want there. You know, the impression that I get about Iran and videos that I've seen of Iran, you know, they're just like us. They just want peace.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:12

Oh yeah, they want democracy.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:14

Right? They want democracy. They I've seen videos where people are like talking to each other, like, oh, do you want to go out on a date with me? And they're like, that's so cute, but no, I need to go home because I need to study for our final exam. Right, right. You know, I'm at the university, and like, you know what I'm saying? Like they're educated, and you know, and we're treating them like animals, which I which which I don't understand. I don't understand, and it almost feels like this happened because I guess Trump's like approval rating wasn't doing very well.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:51

Not good at all, not good at all, right? So now you need to it was like in the high 30% uh range.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:58

I think it might even have been lower.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:00

Really? I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:02

But like I think, you know, I think other presidents have done stuff like this to like boost their credibility or something. Um, because Trump did say, like, oh, I'm going to like you know, bomb you if you don't stop killing protesters. And remember, we've mentioned that in another episode.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:20

And I'm like, what the fuck, man? Like, how about you deal with this shit over here?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:24

Like, that is like they don't want us there. Stop. Yeah, you know, and it feels very much like he did it with Israel, you know, for credibility. And it sounds like Israel needed that credibility too.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:37

But for some reason, um Israel controls the United States or the president.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:44

It feels like that, yeah. Right? There's something going on. They've got something on him, yeah. You know, and then like, and everything just seems all tied up. And I don't want to sound like, you know, I'm looking for what's the word I'm looking for? Uh like uh I can't think of um oh, you know, the person that comes up with theories and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:10

Like I don't want to be that person that comes up with but you know, you know what they're saying is that um like people are taking it to the streets there also um because they're making homemade drones, you know, with wooden wooden propellers, like cheap drones that can carry missiles. And and um yeah, yeah, and they and they're just renegades, you know. They they're they're blasting anything that has uh the interests of the West is a target, you know. I mean, it's it sounds like um I guess in Dubai. Well, you know what it is? It's like you know, remember the um the the uh what are the uh IEDs on the ground? You know, when you drive over them and they blow up. Yeah. You know, those are gone now. You know, they use they're going from the sky hitting hitting targets. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:05

That's wild, because they can do it from a distance now.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:08

You know, and and you know, it it could be it could be China, it could be it could be Russia, it could be anybody. It could be anyone, you know, that had you you could be in a in a recliner watching TV and you could take off your drone, you know, let your drone take off, and just hit points of interest that you want to blow up. Yeah, it's that easy. It really is that easy, which is frightening.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:34

Because Dubai, I think the embassy was attacked. Yeah, right, and they basic America told the Americans there, you're on your own. Yeah, like what the fuck are we supposed to do? They can't get out, like you have no plan? Like, obviously, they rushed us through because they were in a hurry to do something, all right? But it I don't know. This sounds like a very much like you know, Trump was probably like they fucking shouldn't have been there. They shouldn't have been there. It sounds like a very much Israel made me do it kind of deal. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I'm not anti-Semitic, so cut to shit, everybody. Okay, like I don't agree with genocide and things like that, so um I have I have problems with it, okay. I love Jewish people, I don't have a problem with them. Like, they're people too, like, but I'm allowed to have the beef with things that I don't agree with, and that's what America's about. You're allowed to disagree at the end in the end of it, okay? Um, but yes, it really feels like that, and what you were saying before, how like um you know, do they have something on him? Yeah, right. All that talk about Epstein, right? Like I read recently, or it came out a while ago. I can't, my days are blending in. That is he part of was he part of Moussad? And I almost Said is he part of Moussad? Because I think a contributor, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, they fucking got him out and he's alive. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_07 1:06:10

Like he's definitely I believe he's free.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:13

Like he really has our president right now, if he's alive, which he probably is, yeah, and so is Ghlaine, right? Um, they have him by the balls.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:23

Didn't you say that she's got a TV or something in her jail cell or something? She has a fucking puppy. Oh my god. Like, how can that be? Right?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:33

How can that be? What yeah. I guess, I guess if you if you, you know, are trafficking humans, human girls, you get a puppy. What the fuck? I know, right? This is the problem. What jail is she in? Some candy land one. God almighty. Yeah. Some low security candy land a puppy. Where she got a fucking puppy.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:57

Yeah. Is there any validity to that?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:00

I that's what I've been seeing, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:03

But it's uh it is pretty crazy out there. I I I don't know how they are allowing this to happen. But again, I think it's because they really have them by the balls, you know. Um, so here's something that came up weeks ago that I wanted to rhyme remind people about. Um, so hold on. Let me see here if I can get this to work.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:28

So why uh are Republicans so interested in Bill and Hillary Clinton? It's because they're trying to distract from the fact that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files thousands and thousands of times. In those files, there's highly disturbing allegations of Donald Trump raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. So I encourage the press to go look at these allegations, and I'm highly disturbed that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche just got the law wrong. Yesterday he said essentially that it is not a crime to party with Jeffrey Epstein. Well, that's actually not correct. If Jeffrey Epstein was human trafficking minors for these sex parties, and you show up and patronize the establishment at that party, yes, you're guilty because patronizing is part of the law, of the federal sex trafficking law. So Deputy General Tablan just got that wrong, which maybe explains why they aren't investigating all these folks, including Donald Trump. He needs to read the law and investigate these people. He also needs to resign, not only for not knowing the law, but a massive, not only screw-up, but the biggest privacy violation in history. They release a lot of pictures of minors unredacted, just violated the privacy of these girls. It is uncalled for what they did. The one thing that they could not do under this law was to invade the privacy of these women now who were girls at the time who were uh victims of sex trafficking. Also, he met with Ghislaine Maxwell. Maxwell moved her to member security prison and then got a puppy for her. So for all those reasons, he's just got to leave the Department of Justice.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:26

So Todd Blanche was Trump's lawyer, his personal lawyer, okay. Um, so we have a problem with that. Zero credibility, they're not gonna be accounted, you know, accountable for any of this, okay. And also that that's where we got it. Ghlaine Maxwell got a puppy, minimal security. You know, that's this is wild. And this was back in February. Wow, okay. Um, so this was weeks ago that this happened, and this is rep representative Ted Lou who drops this uh information down about Epstein.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:01

But it's it's wild because so many questions, so many things, really, you know, like there's so many distractions and like you know, yeah, so many rabbit holes to go down, and then so Representative Ted Lew is a Democrat, but Congressman Thomas Massey is a Republican, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:21

Okay, and Thomas Massey had some things to say as well. Here we go. Is that simple?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:28

Why do you think he is working so hard not to get them released for so many months? What do you think the real reason is?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

It these files implicate billionaires and friends of him and of his and uh political donors uh that he's trying to protect. And Epstein also had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies. That's why there's so much um effort in trying to stop this. And and I do believe they'll try to stop it somewhere else. Uh and that's gonna backfire on them too.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:02

So who's the the director of of the FBI?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:07

Uh Cash Patel is.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:09

Well, right. No, who's the woman? Who's the woman with the Oh it was Christine Gnome, but she's no longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's this other dude. So Patel and Gnome, they've seen the files. Yes. Okay? So they know. And so did Bondi. Okay, they all know, and they all know what Trump did.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:29

Oh no, it's not Gnome, it was Bondi.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:32

But who who whoever it is, they all seen, heard, you know, whether they're tapes or whatever, they've they've seen what Trump did. Yeah. And how for them to keep their mouth shut, there's got to be some sort of reciprocation going to them. Oh, absolutely. You know, and we talk about what $20 billion going to somewhere today. And but what was that we were talking about earlier? Oh, I can't remember because it's hard to keep track of where all this money is being stolen and put in their pockets. Yeah. So what they're doing is they get they're getting money, you know, 20 20 billion going this way, and to to create a uh a company. Um I don't know. It's just the money just goes right back to the thieves.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:24

Oh, well, I know what it was. It was Christine Gnome because she had spent 20 million dollars on advertising or advertising. 200 million?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:36

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:36

Like not 20 million, 200 million.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:39

So that so that 200 million, what happens with that is their cronies, right, develop a or start a um advertise and ad agency. Fuck. And then that that's where the that's how they get the money. You know, they create these fucking agencies or or corporations, and when you follow the the trail someday, boom, you know where the money went. God damn, it's always about follow the fucking. Well, there was a representative in East Boston. I'm not gonna mention his name.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:12

Don't please.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:13

I'm not gonna mention his name, but he was he was a state rep, okay? Great state state rep, but he started to get wise and he started to be greedy. And um, he owned um a fruit and produce corporation. Huge. He had like 50 trucks, you know. You ever see the white trucks on the street with all the bananas on them and you know, yeah, you know, the graphics? He had like, I won't mention the name of the company, but he had like 20 trucks. He had an entire huge warehouse at the Chelsea produce market in uh in Chelsea, and he was, you know, he was a fruit distributor. And before you know it, um he had the oh he had all the uh Boston public schools, you know, were buying his fruits and vegetables, you know, because he had the political connection. You know, so he so they well, that's what they do, and in like no bid contracts, you know, and that's what they do. They they they the politicians start corporations and they know people in in the government, and boom, the money goes to them. That's how they play it around.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:31

Maybe that's how they all like enter the job broke, yeah, and then leave the job wealthy, right? And they're all guilty of it because you see some rich ass Democrats now too. You're like, what is going on? Like, how the fuck did you do that? They're worse than the mob. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's quite the racket, isn't it? So uh one other thing that I was talking to my brother the other day because he had flown back from California, and you know, the last snowstorm that we had, it was so bad. And um he was so impressed that when he got home, because he was like, Oh, I gotta take the subway from the airport, and I have to drag my luggage through this fucking snow. And then he got out of the subway, and to his surprise, he was like, There's no snow on these sidewalks in New York. What the fuck happened? You know? So basically, Mom Donnie hired people, you know, like giving them extra cash, right? Um, baby city employees to clean snow off the sidewalk.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:37

Imagine how that works. Wow. Imagine how that works.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:42

My brother was like, he was like, because I was talking to him about uh Portland, how it like, oh, like this, like there was a storm there, and the snow the next day was it looked like it never touched the sidewalk, you know, it disappeared everywhere we went. It was impressive. And then my brother was like, Oh, in New York, the same thing happened. I was like, What? And he was like, Yeah, see, like, look at I think that I thought that was brilliant. If they did something like that here in Boston, it would just clean out like those streets up so quick, right? Um, but and then I heard these arguments too that people were like, oh, well, they're demanding two forms of ID for a job, you know. And I'm like, Yeah, like that's what you're supposed to do when you apply for a job. You're supposed to bring either your passport or a license and something else, you know. I I forget what other form of ID you can bring, or like uh social security, social security card with your license or your birth certificate or your whatever, you know, and then people are trying to like equate that to well, why can't you ask that for voting? I'm like, it's not the same fucking thing, right? Because mom Donnie, you know, has was employing people, right? You need the two forms of ID because they weren't getting taxed on that money. I think they were getting like $30 an hour. Oh, yeah. And then if they did overtime, it was $45 an hour. Bad. Right? But the shit worked, and I thought that was super brilliant. Yeah, right. So that's a win for momdani in New York City.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:22

So I hope he I hope he keeps up with the clever, yeah, keeps this working because he's making you know, that's watch how clean the streets are in the summer when he gets those people to clean the streets.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:34

I hope so, because uh New York can be a little bit raunchy in the summertime, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:40

No doubt.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:41

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