The Long Way Out
It’s never too late to find your truth or change your mind. Join partners Carlos and Anthony—a nurse/professor and an addiction recovery coach—as they navigate an age-gap relationship, late-in-life coming out, divorce, and the art of the "second act".
While our journey started with our own story, we’re going everywhere from here. The Long Way Out explores any and every topic through the lens of experience and curiosity. We’re opening the floor to guests and callers to share their own stories, educate us on new perspectives, and join the conversation. Whether it’s life on the front lines of healthcare or the messy reality of starting over, we’re proving that the long way out is often the most rewarding path.
The Long Way Out
Latest Episodes
Episode 13: Bunch of F*cking Hypocrites!
Recorded on May 13, 2026.In the episode: Mother's Day awkwardness and when Mom is MAGA, and you're not; Caitlin Jenner & other LGBTQ+ jerks; LGBTQ identity; Disturbing trend of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation in the U.S.; MAGA Grindr c...
Episode 12: F*ck Taxes, and Other Things That Can F*ck!
Recorded on Sunday, April 26, 2026.In this episode: Why pay your taxes? How is Pakistan involved with the war in Iran? Why was Hungary so important to MAGA? Melania, the First Lady, the movie. The Trumps' approval ratings--oof! WHC...
Episode 11: I'm Okay--The World is Wrong!
Recorded on Thursday, April 16, 2026.In this episode, we invited our friend and neighbor Mario to join our conversation! What's better than three old, cranky queens talking trash? Topics include: Artemis 2; Anthony's su...