The Long Way Out
It’s never too late to find your truth or change your mind. Join partners Carlos and Anthony—a nurse/professor and an addiction recovery coach—as they navigate an age-gap relationship, late-in-life coming out, divorce, and the art of the "second act".
While our journey started with our own story, we’re going everywhere from here. The Long Way Out explores any and every topic through the lens of experience and curiosity. We’re opening the floor to guests and callers to share their own stories, educate us on new perspectives, and join the conversation. Whether it’s life on the front lines of healthcare or the messy reality of starting over, we’re proving that the long way out is often the most rewarding path.
The Long Way Out
Latest Episodes
Episode 18: Wow! We have so many friends we don't like.
Recorded on July 18, 2026.In this episode: Reclaiming our summer; why all the politics?; the Reflecting Pool (again); Proud Boys (allegedly); Empire State Building climbers; ICE (again); Brigham and Women's Nursing Strike & a b...
Episode 17: Tomorrow: "You're allowed to express how you feel. That's America, right?"
Recorded on 6/29/2026.In this episode: The conversation continued the following day; Luigi Mangione, Tin roosters in Maine; Elon Musk; Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool; Voting (sigh....); Mamdani backlash; Somali Flag; religious ex...
Episode 16: A Dash of Pride & Tacos
Recorded on June 28, 2026. In this episode: Our last weekend of Pride; Nuclear Family Month; paid for bigotry; returning to faith; Mayor Pete & Mamdani; Mike Johnson; Minor League Baseball (is so minor); Social Security; United Health...
Episode 15: I Know You're Trying To Stay Positive But....
Recorded on Thursday, June 18, 2026In this episode: We took some time off; Happy (-ish) Pride Month; Not feeling patriotic; The US lost this war, and just keeps losing; Boston's Scottish invasion, AI is cool, but has a dark side.
