The Long Way Out
It’s never too late to find your truth or change your mind. Join partners Carlos and Anthony—a nurse/professor and an addiction recovery coach—as they navigate an age-gap relationship, late-in-life coming out, divorce, and the art of the "second act".
While our journey started with our own story, we’re going everywhere from here. The Long Way Out explores any and every topic through the lens of experience and curiosity. We’re opening the floor to guests and callers to share their own stories, educate us on new perspectives, and join the conversation. Whether it’s life on the front lines of healthcare or the messy reality of starting over, we’re proving that the long way out is often the most rewarding path.
Episodes
13 episodes
Episode 13: Bunch of F*cking Hypocrites!
Recorded on May 13, 2026.In the episode: Mother's Day awkwardness and when Mom is MAGA, and you're not; Caitlin Jenner & other LGBTQ+ jerks; LGBTQ identity; Disturbing trend of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation in the U.S.; MAGA Grindr c...
Episode 12: F*ck Taxes, and Other Things That Can F*ck!
Recorded on Sunday, April 26, 2026.In this episode: Why pay your taxes? How is Pakistan involved with the war in Iran? Why was Hungary so important to MAGA? Melania, the First Lady, the movie. The Trumps' approval ratings--oof! WHC...
Episode 11: I'm Okay--The World is Wrong!
Recorded on Thursday, April 16, 2026.In this episode, we invited our friend and neighbor Mario to join our conversation! What's better than three old, cranky queens talking trash? Topics include: Artemis 2; Anthony's su...
Episode 10: This Episode Has No Business Existing
Recorded on Sunday, April 5, 2026. Anthony and I can talk! All. Day. Long. In this episode: Is Easter a thing, really? Anthony's sciatica and other mysterious body stuff. Speaking of Iran.... Are MAGA folks less educated? DEI...
Episode 9: Unpacking Some of the F*ckery
Recorded on Saturday, March 28, 2026.In this episode:People suckThings we don't care much about, but pay attention anywayNews biasIran dominating the newsThe Middle East is like Game of Thr...
Episode 8: Why Are People So F*cking Crazy?!
Recorded on Tuesday, March 17, 2026In this episode:Happy St. Patrick's Day! A message from New York City's Mayor Mamdani.Iran, Graham Platner (D-Maine), Joe Kent (former Director of Counterintelligence Center)<...
Episode 7: The Episode We Meant to Record. Much sooner.
Recorded on Tuesday, March 3rd & Friday, March 6th.In this episode:Catching up and the episode we meant to record (sorry we're so late!)Anthony's Birthday in Portland, MaineBlack History meets LGBTQ+
Episode 6: A Rough Week
Recorded on Friday, February 13, 2026In this episode: Super Bowl half time showsAnthony's heartbreakEstranged adult children and when you think they hate youInfidelity and how it's different be...
Episode 5: Picking Sides
Recorded on February 1, 2026.In this episode: Unhoused in the cold, Anthony's line of work, and how we can help.Retirement? What retirement? Internalized homophobia. Gay for May...
Episode 4: The Lines We Cross
Recorded on January 25, 2026. In this episode: Prizes and how dictators love them, update on Anthony's friend Debbie, fuck cancer, missing out for not coming out sooner, ideas about masculinity, casual sex encounters, who's th...
Episode 3: Strong Truths, Stronger Opinions
Recorded on January 13, 2026. LGBTQ culture shock, TV, movies and catching up to the culture. Our age difference, how we grew up, PDA, Medicare and health. LGBTQ kids, relatives. News on our minds (Iran, state of h...