Episode 8: Why Are People So F*cking Crazy?!

Recorded on Tuesday, March 17, 2026

In this episode:

• Happy St. Patrick's Day!  A message from New York City's Mayor Mamdani.
• Iran, Graham Platner (D-Maine), Joe Kent (former Director of Counterintelligence Center)
• Spit on the face, then punched in the face
• Workplace violence and nurses
• Thank gawd for therapy
• Why are people going crazy?

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Music: Stick The Landing by Everet Almond

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Hey Anthony. Carlos. Long time no see.

unknown 0:11

Hey.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Where you been?

unknown 0:13

Oh, you know.

SPEAKER_04 0:14

Out and about, I guess. Uh so long way out. There we go.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Episode eight. Episode eight. Wow. Can you believe it's great? Imagine? No, I eight of them. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 0:39

I thought we would have more, but you know, we're busy guys.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Yeah, well, life goes on, right?

SPEAKER_04 0:44

I know, my God. But um, no, this still doing it, still fun. Yeah, it is. It is. Yikes. So, hey, this uh what were we gonna talk about today?

SPEAKER_02 0:57

That was a lot of fun. Well, today is St. Patrick's Day. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00

Happy St.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Patrick's Day.

SPEAKER_04 1:04

Yes, and um, I think I was made an honorary uh Irish person. Really? Yeah, you know, my one of my colleagues that I I work with, you know, like Irish, and talks about like um how she introduced me to my first Guinness. Ah yeah, because I I all these years I've never tried a stout, I never liked the appearance of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:31

You know, it's dark.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Yeah, you have to acquire a taste for stout.

SPEAKER_04 1:36

But you know, I I didn't mind Guinness at all when I tried it recently, and I was like, this is actually quite good. It's light.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

I thought it was gonna be creamy and heavy. You know, you're in Boston. This is the land of steak, stout, and steamers. I mean, aren't aren't Irish everywhere though? I mean oh my god. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

But you know something? I'm Italian, and I think St. Patrick was Italian.

SPEAKER_04 2:05

Uh I don't know. He was. I hang out with my colleague and some Irish folks, and I drink Guinness with them. There you go. They love to drink, and they call me O Carlos. O Carlos. So I thought somebody McDiaz, exactly. But anyway, a happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody. Yeah. Um, didn't get to make the parade today. No. Ah, I it's cold out, and I worked last night.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Well, no, well, the the parade was was Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

Oh, you see how much of a clue I don't have? But Sunday was ugly out.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:50

I did not want any part of that.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

No, it was brutal, it was windy and rainy.

SPEAKER_04 2:54

Yeah, it's gross. But um, I wanted to play this bit from um Donnie, the mayor of New York. I'm obsessed with this guy because I really like how he's doing things, and I think many New Yorkers are quite impressed by him. But here's a clip here. I mean, it's pretty, pretty extensive where he goes into St. Patrick's Day.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Today, as New Yorkers celebrate St. Patrick's Day, I think of the words of St. Patrick himself, the Apostle of Ireland. In the 5th century, in what we now know as Ireland, a British warlord named Carodacus had laid waste to the countryside. St. Patrick implored the soldiers responsible to stop. Overcome by grief, he wrote, All I can do is what is written, weep with those who weep. It is no small act to weep with those who weep. It is a choice, one that many do not make. It requires sacrifice, a subjugation of the self, solidarity. Irish solidarity is no coincidence, as it was on Irish soil that the British Empire developed their colonial project. So much of the exploitation later imposed elsewhere across the world was honed first in the plantations in Ireland. Who can better understand those who weep than those who have wept for so long? And yet the story of Ireland is not merely one of violent oppression, of subjugation, of attempted domination, it is one of resistance too. For centuries, generation after generation, waged a lonely effort for independence. Year after year, uprising after uprising, they were brutally beaten back. And still, they kept coming. I think of leaders like James Connolly and Patrick Pierce, who roused hundreds of thousands with demands of political freedom and economic self-determination. I think of those who endured unimaginable hardship during the Troubles, the ten prisoners who died after going on hunger strike to protest the British government's refusal to deem them political prisoners. I think of the many whose names have been lost to time, who perished from a famine exacerbated by imperial callousness. And I think of the discrimination Irish New Yorkers faced when they first came to these shores. They were barred from employment and housing. Signs plastered across storefronts read, Help wanted, no Irish need apply. They did not grow discouraged, however. They organized, mobilized, and formed labor movements that endure to this day. It was Irish hands that helped build so much of the city we recognize today. The skyscrapers that pierce clouds, the tunnels carved through bedrock. If solidarity has so often been withheld from the Irish, it has never been withheld by the Irish. An Irish diplomat named Roger Caseman helped to expose the barbarism of Belgian King Leopold II in the Congo Free State. After Dublin supermarket workers went on a three-year strike to protest apartheid, the Irish government banned the import of South African goods, the first complete ban by a Western government. And in 1980, Ireland was the first EEC nation to call for a Palestinian state. For years afterwards, Irish leaders like former President Mary Robinson stood steadfast in their support for Palestinian freedom. Today, as we celebrate St. Patrick's Day, I know there are many who feel a continued obligation to one another, to a world where justice does not feel so often like the exception, to all those who still weep. Happy St. Patrick's Day.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Ooh, you know, I remember, I remember the hunger strike. And um there was one Irishman who literally he starved himself to death. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I remember it was all over the news, you know.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

It's just wild, huh?

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:18

Jeez. I had no idea. So I I only knew about, you know, that they faced some marginalization when they first came, but I like we mentioned before, yeah, you know, Italians were victims to that too. It's just a new group every time.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Yeah, well, I I think, you know, it's it's part of the territory um with with with the new immigrants coming in, no matter you know, what time or or when they could, you know, whatever they came in, um, you know, whether it was the the Irish, the Italians, the Spanish, uh, that you know, the Haitians, the Jamaicans, it's you know, it started like way back, you know, like the Indians were here, you know, and and and then um, you know, it just took off. It took off.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Yeah. But I I like I I like the way he does that. He tries to acknowledge everyone. Um, however, he did face some some uh opposition from someone from like uh a Palestinian in New York who was really angry. There was a video, I can't find it right now, but he was legit shouting at Mandani, like in his face, uh, during a press conference saying that, you know, you're a hypocrite because you know you're saying that Israel has the right to exist, yet you're saying free Palestine in the same sentence. And it's so it's so wild to me because I don't I guess I don't understand it that uh like enough to really have an opinion. What I do have an opinion about, and I keep saying this, is that I'm not okay with this genocide of Gaza. You know, they're they're they're causing this, they're they're they're making that happen right to to to the Palestinian population, and that is kind of fucked up. Not kind of fucked up, it's just really fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Brutal, right? Brutalizing them.

SPEAKER_04 8:20

And now there's talk of like, you know, there's apartheid happening in Israel, and I mean it's just it just keeps going, going, and going. And it never ends, you know, and impressive that the Irish since 1980 were like, yeah, no, we free, you know, they're already speaking up for Palestine. Yeah, as far back then.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

You know, right. And they're fighters, you know, the the IRA, you know, with you know, the uh the cat Catholics and Protestants fighting in Ireland. Yeah, you know, they the Irish love to fight.

SPEAKER_04 8:55

I just think that that I don't understand that whole thing either. You know, and this is where my problem with like religion comes into play, right? Like, because the way I've always viewed Catholics and Protestants, I'm like, you're the same fucking thing, you know. In essence, you know, you are very similar, so I don't understand what the problem is.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Right.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

You know, but that's my own ignorance, and I need to figure that out, you know. But I am not a very good Catholic anyway. I I I don't even claim to be one anymore. I haven't practiced religion in forever, and I and I for the longest time I've been against it.

SPEAKER_02 9:35

Yeah. Half the people that are fighting don't know why they're fighting, what they're fighting for.

SPEAKER_04 9:40

It's really ugly. Yeah. You know, there's no need for it. And then with that, you know, you have the issues with like Iran, right? We talked about that before, and how I I guess in the last episode we were talking about uh what did I say that it was a case of Israel made me do it, and it doesn't look like I was wrong, you know. It I'm still figuring out why, you know, we our country decided to take this path, right? It still doesn't make any sense because now, you know, people are speaking out that yes, this is probably because you're covering something up, dude. Right. Like here's Graham Plattner in Maine. Um, you know, he's the one that's uh Democrat that's running for a Senate seat there, and I guess Susan Collins voted for this war, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:36

And um she's the the the governor, no?

SPEAKER_04 10:40

No, uh senator, senator, yeah, and then she's um in place right now, but I think their primary is coming up in November, and and I think Graham Platner is the I guess he's the one that's ahead right now in all the polls.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

This war is uniquely stupid. This war is uniquely awful, but we must be clear that it was allowed to happen because of the system that we have allowed to build. This never should have occurred, it never should have been an option that a president can just start a huge regional conflict because he's afraid we're gonna find out he might be a pedophile.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

So true.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

We need to pull power back on Wednesday. There was an opportunity to at least try a little bit, and Susan Collins voted against it.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

I mean, that's a bad look right there, right? Of course, of course, they're trying to hide something. Why uh why is there there's really does it make any sense, you know? And then with that, um, there's this whole talk about um who was it, Joe Kent? He's a counter-terrorism center director. He he resigned. He resigned from his post because he was saying that after much reflection, I have decided to resign from my position as director of the National Counter-terrorism center effective today.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

So he could say what he wanted to say.

SPEAKER_04 12:31

Yeah, but basically, this is what he's saying. I cannot, in good conscience, support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. It's wild. This thing goes so many layers deep. Right? You know, we have we and Democrats are just as guilty because you have some Democrats who are accepting money, this APAC money. Yeah, I can't tell you what the acronym stands for right now, but basically that's the lobby for Israel, you know, and they're taking this money, so a lot of these politicians, and it kind of influences well, not kind of, it does influence how they vote, you know, and that's why you have people like Chuck Schumer that we cannot stand right now. Well, I don't know about you, but me, I cannot stand right now, because they are very much in support of Israel, Israel, Israel. Again, this does not make me anti-Semitic, okay? Uh, my problem is not with Jewish people, my problem is how Israel is conducting itself right now.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Yeah, you know, you're starting all this shit up, you're stirring up these wars, you know, and then people are looking at You know, I don't even think you know, Israel uh started it was it was America more than Israel. Well, and you talk about all the layers, right? And at the bottom, the first layer, right, are the nukes, you know, and they're not even talking about that anymore. You know, our brain and they're nukes. Like, you know, there's there's all the other stuff that goes above that, that's that cause that's you know, I don't even want to call it a conflict because it's you know, there was no conflict that that brewed and then a war broke out, you know.

SPEAKER_04 14:26

Yes. At one point they're trying to say that this isn't a war, but it is. It's gone over two weeks now, you know, and you didn't have to see what a war looks like. Existed in a war, you didn't get congressional approval, right? You know, you just kind of ran with it, yeah, right? They didn't ask anybody, they didn't run it by anybody, you know, and now you have someone in counterterrorism, which by the way, is um been is a veteran himself. He has been in the Middle East for quite some time, so he knows what he's talking about. And if this guy is saying, hey, there was no imminent threat, then what the fuck are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 15:04

Right, right?

SPEAKER_04 15:06

Like just so many things wrong with this right now. We and and war is not what we needed at this time, right? Things are just too fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

Oh yeah, the world is nuts. The world is nuts. Um well, let's talk about it for a minute. Um you know, the other day you were in uh in traffic and the dude spit in your fucking face. Oh, that was like that was a couple weeks ago. Yeah, well, I know. It was horrible. Yeah, but I wish I was in the car with you.

SPEAKER_04 15:36

Yeah, but no, you can't you but then you can't like assault someone else, and uh you know, that's that's illegal. No, uh no, it's it's uh self-defense. That's if I do something, you spit on me, not on you. I got some on me. You know, I was like, No, I don't think it worked. But anyway, that situation was wild because I'm not even joking. It has given me so much anxiety since it happened. You know, every day now I get in my car and I dread driving to my destination. And all I can think is I just need to get to where I'm going.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 16:18

Right. And when I leave from where I got to to come home, I can't wait to come home. Yeah, and then it's always so much traffic and so much fuckery, and people are so angry. Yeah, you know, all the time too. And that situation that day, it was after the snowstorm, right? Um, so it was a couple of weeks back, and like I was behind a bus, it was a shorter bus, a smaller one, you know, and the lights came on. But I, you know, the stop sign wasn't up on the bus. There was nobody around, right? The bus literally pulled behind a car that was parked, and then put, you know, and I was like, oh, and I guess because they didn't plow to the curb, you know, the street was kind of not plowed.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 17:07

Took up space, took up space, so I was like, no one's coming, no one's around. So I went past the bus. And then there was plenty of room for two lanes of traffic, and this one guy blocks me.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:22

And starts yelling, starts screaming, rolls on his window, starts screaming at me, and I'm like, what is happening?

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Right. You know, and then you you were more concerned because it was tight and you didn't want to hit the car on the um, you know, the bus on one side and the car on the other because it was so tight, he probably didn't realize you know what was going on with the bus.

SPEAKER_04 17:41

Like he had plenty of room to get out of my way because everyone else behind him made the space because they saw a car was coming, but he blocked me. Yeah, and I'm like, dude, you have enough room. What are you doing? You know, there's no one around, you can go. And then he starts screaming that I'm there's a butt like because of the bus. And I'm like, but there's no one there, just let me pass. You have you totally can let me go, right? And then I and then as he's passing me after the you know, after the kids get on the bus, now the like the stop sign's up, you know, they get on the bus safely, right? And then um he goes past me, my window's down. I'm like, what is up? What is up, dude? You have plenty of space. Look at the space that you have right now, you know, and then he's screaming at me like I'm a fucking piece of shit and whatever, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, dude, fuck off. I don't have time for this shit. And then spits at me. And when I say he was so angry, it was like, here is for 400 years of slavery and for every African nation. Like it, and it was a lot of spit, too. Like, he had that brewing and it hit me in the face, it was dangling from my glasses, it was disgusting, you know. And I was so stunned, and then he sped off right after, right? Just like you just made my point that you had plenty of room, you were just being a fucking asshole, yeah. You know, and there was no reason for any of that. Horrible, you know, and like I was so stunned, and I wasn't even angry, I was just like, wow, is this where we are now? Is this what people do? Like, that's the version of the last word. Words are enough, yeah. You know, I'm happy to give you the last word. I don't give a shit, but you don't have to like assault me in the process.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Yeah, Louie, right? Really?

SPEAKER_04 19:41

It was a lot of spit. I was like, it was all over my uniform. I had to go teach clinical that morning. I wasn't even in a hurry. I had plenty of time. I left early than planned, you know, and there was no reason for him to do that. Yeah, you know, it was disgusting. But he sped off because he probably thought I was gonna get out of my car and fuck him up, right? But I couldn't be angry because I was actually quite sad for him. I'm like, your life is that fucking miserable that you're gonna treat another person like that, you know. And the thing is, like, you don't know who you're doing that to. That's crazy. You do that, he does that to the next person, and it's the wrong person. He's gonna be dead, yeah. Right, like you might want to rethink that, dude, next time. Yeah, like don't do that, you know? And so I kind of let it go because I'm like, well, it happened, whatever. You know, I like I said, I wasn't even angry, I was like, wow, this is this is what it is now. Yeah, like holy shit. And then like my next complaint in the span of like two weeks, because the following week, I get punched at clinical.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Wow, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

Right? And I don't even worry about pick on Carlos week. Like two weeks. Like, so that was pick on Carlos month, right? So this happened at the clinical site that I teach.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Blindsided by a sucker punch.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

Yeah, it was a sucker punch because you know, uh a psych patient, you know, lots of trauma, lots of issues, obviously, you know, they're there. There's a lot of forensic patients on this floor. What I mean by forensic patients, these are patients who are are sent there by the judge to see, you know, to be assessed. Yeah, just stipulated to make sure that they can stay in trial, basically. Yeah, right. And a lot of them do have psychiatric illnesses, like they are legit. Okay. This one, you know, I acknowledged their presence. We I thought we were cool. I've been at this site now for six, seven weeks, you know, so never had an issue. Always spoke to them. I always talk, you know. Basically, we take students into this area because it's, I mean, all other than it being required. You know, we still have to, you know, teach them like these are people too, you know, you treat them like people, you have to be respectful, and it teaches them how to like engage with this population. Okay. And of course, the students are already fearful, but this woman that day, you know, I acknowledged her presence when she walked behind me. She had what would they call a one-to-one. So she was being watched by someone continuously, constantly. Okay. She walked behind me once, there was a TV there, and then she walked away. And then I, you know, I watched her. You know, I said good morning, and I was like, hey, do you want my seat so you can be closer to the TV? I don't mind. Like, because I was there with a few students who were talking to other patients. They were having a good conversation.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Do you think she uh didn't feel a part of I don't know?

SPEAKER_04 22:56

Yeah. Because there's there were moments that I saw her in in previous weeks, like she was legit talking, for example, one day, talking to a bookcase, you know, as if it was a person there. Wow. Like legit conversation, back and forth. You only heard her part half of the conversation.

SPEAKER_03 23:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:16

You know, and the students were like, Are you seeing this right now? I was like, that's okay. They're like, What do you do about that? I was like, Well, you let her finish, you know, and then you can come in. But you don't want to be rude and interrupt because she really thinks there's someone there, she really sees, right? This is part of her hallucination. Okay. So you can't like, you know, be rude, you know, and then when they say, Oh, like, did you see this person? You should be like, I believe that you saw someone, but I I'm sorry, I did not. I didn't hear them or see them. Okay. That's how you have to approach it with patients that have, you know, hallucinations. That's what we try to teach them.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

Right.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

You know, and even though psych nursing or med medicine, if you want to like in general, is very different from the medical surgical hospital, because I teach that in the fall, it's very different because it's not as task-oriented, not as task-heavy.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

Right.

SPEAKER_04 24:12

But boy, is it exhausting because you have to be mentally alert and ready to sp to say the right things at the right time. You know, you can't trip up like, you know, you just have to be on the ready. So it's mental game, very exhausting.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

But I mean, and you know, with them, they they're they're just uh, you know, in the in the room creating scenarios in our in their heads, like of things that aren't happening, and you know, it depends on the diagnosis and the illness, too, you know, and a lot of them are there for dual diagnosis.

SPEAKER_04 24:46

Yeah, you know, they have severe depression or that might they're bipolar and they were suicidal, and they have a like a substance abuse issue as well, right? So, anyway, she comes behind me again, this person, um, you know, and I was like, Oh, she's just gonna go look at the TV. I'm observing my students who are managing like this conversation beautifully, and I'm like very impressed by how they are communicating with this patient, who was kind of delusional. The next thing I felt was a punch. And then my student, who is closest to me, uh, she said later on that she was like, I heard you get hit, and then you and then I turned around, you were on the floor. I didn't realize that I hit the floor when seated in the chair.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Right.

SPEAKER_04 25:33

But apparently I flew out of my chair. She hit me that hard from behind and got me right in the right side of my face, you know. And then all I can think was, oh my god, because everything happened so quickly. I'm thinking, get up, get up, get up, get up, because who who else is gonna fucking jump in now in this room? Like, who's gonna help or beat the shit out of me or harm my students? Right, right. So of course I'm like, get up, get up, get up. And all I can think, because I was in so much pain from that, and I was nauseous and I was just stunned. I was like, uh, and I was just like, it was so hard for me to muster out that no, yeah. And then, like, and it stopped everything in the room, everything stopped, you know, and then and then I was telling my signaling my students, I was like, go, go, go, you know, and then I started talking to her because I didn't want her to attack my students, I didn't want my students to get hurt, right? So I was like, Do you understand what you just did? And she was like, No, I don't. I was like, Do you understand that was wrong? And she was like, I don't think it was wrong. The TV, they were telling me to do it, you know, and then I'm like, What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 26:45

And I so I was like, Okay, now we gotta go, let's go, you know. Wow, so like did the TV call her over and whisper something in her ear?

SPEAKER_04 26:54

It could have been, but what was on the TV was news, and it's a lot of like violence in the news, you know. And the thing is, like, you know, we were saying, like, maybe you shouldn't have the news on. Yeah, but you know, the patients have rights and they're allowed to watch the news if they want to, so they have to put it on for them. Yeah, you know, and I get that, right? Um, but after that incident, it was, you know, it's it started to cause issues amongst the group now, right? Because, you know, students were expressing wanting to quit the program after students.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Yeah, you had one that really wanted to.

SPEAKER_04 27:30

Yeah, but but it goes beyond that. There were other things going on, right? Like it had to be more than that. And, you know, other students that were afraid to go back to their clinical placements for psych. And I had a third group of students coming after they rotate this one out. Yeah, you know, that were like, you know, those groups didn't want to go to psych now. And they're like, this is crazy, you know. And then even the, you know, like my colleagues were like, Do you want to go back there? I was like, Do I have an option? Like, I can't just stop going because these students need their clinical hours.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Just knowing, like, you know, you're a young, a young kid, a student, and you know, you're going into a psych ward, you know, and uh, you know, just the word psych, you know, and you know, crazy. And you know, in their head, it's like, oh my god, we gotta be careful up there. It definitely carries a lot of stigma.

SPEAKER_04 28:20

Oh, no doubt. And that's what we're trying to do with these placements, is we're trying to destigmatize this because they're people too. They have, you know, mental illness, they need help and they need our help, right? You know, and that's the approach that we tried to take. You know, we don't want you to be afraid. And the thing about psych, it's in every specialty, right? Not not anymore. Do you have or ever been, I don't know if it's ever been, that you would have, you know, a patient, for example, who's say got stage four cancer, you know, or whatever stage of cancer, some a chronic illness, plus a mental health illness on top of that, right? You don't know which one came first or which one caused, like, you know what I'm saying? Like it, so it's everywhere, is my point. So when we try to teach the students that you're not just gonna see this in a mental hospital, you're gonna see this at the medical hospital as well.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Right.

SPEAKER_04 29:17

You know, because we often joke, like, oh, this person that came in, you know, she has abdominal pain. But not only does she have abdominal pain, she's also suicidal. You know, like, and now we got other things to deal with, right? Or she has a substance abuse disorder, you know. So it's very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Yeah, you know, probably illness.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Yeah, you know, but you know, the bottom line is this like what made me so mad about that situation was that because I had some time to think about it between these two incidences in like a two-week span, you know, it gave me so much anxiety about going out of the house. And like yesterday, because this supposed this is the spring break week, right? Which only means I work one job now, just my night job. And um, and I do light work, you know, to catch up work for my day job, for the teaching job, and it's spring break, you know. It's not really a time off for us. Um but what kind of made me crazy was that it was so normalized, the violence, you know, this workplace violence, and we tried to teach the students because I had to tell them, you know, we talked after a lecture with a couple of my colleagues there. Like, it's not okay that this happened.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Right. But but it does. You know, shit happens. But you know, if they're gonna be working as a nurse, you know, they're gonna have those patients.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

They will have those patients, but it shouldn't happen. Right. Right. So I thought more about it, and like, you know, that basically it boils down to that person who was a one-to-one didn't do his job. Yeah, you know, nobody informed us that this patient was hitting people over the weekend, right? And we were, and then we came on a Wednesday when it happened, right? Um, nobody said, Oh, watch her back. This is what she's doing now. They're like, nobody told us because maybe we would have done things differently.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

So so what happened to the patient?

SPEAKER_04 31:22

Did they like the security come and restrain her or did well she didn't require physical restraints because I my voice was loud enough, I guess scary enough, that it stopped time in the room. And then she like woke up from whatever trances she was in to do that, you know. Um, and they took her off the unit because that morning they had to restrain another patient. Wow, and they used a seclusion room for that one.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Was the patient that uh, you know, did she apologize to you?

SPEAKER_04 31:53

No, because she had zero insight. She really, yeah. She was like, I don't think I did anything wrong. Wow, but TV basically told me to do it. I'm like, okay, well, I guess you we let's go. Like, I was so stunned and like so much pain that I was like, I just need to get her out of here. And then the the person that was supposed to watch her didn't wasn't watching her because I got hit and and didn't really respond quickly enough, started to call for help from the staff like when I had already dealt with the problem. So I'm kind of glad that he didn't add to it because I had to protect my students. Okay, like I was like, I don't know what the fuck is gonna happen right now, you know. So like I think back and it kind of pissed me off because I'm like, you should have told me, you should have been watching, you know, and and when I say that they normalized it, people are like, Oh yeah, she assaulted me the other day, or she and I'm like, No, but this is not okay, right? Right, right. So if this was happening, it wasn't it should have been in report. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, if this was happening over, you know, since the the previous weekend, right? Like, why weren't measures taken right for this patient? Okay, because after this incident, then they decided, oh, we need to medicate her differently now. I'm like, you didn't think to do that when it was happening for multiple days, like almost a week, and like good. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, and I think they freaked out because, like, though, the person who got hit doesn't even fucking work here. Like, he's a guest in our house and he just got fucking like belted on the face, right? Like, he just took one and it was not cool because now my jaw still hurts. Okay, I mean it's gotten a little, it's less tender now when I when I wash my face, I don't feel it as much. But like at the end of my day, when I'm talking all day, or when I eat, you know, when I'm eating, the end of my day, it's it irritates so much that it gives me a headache now.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

You should have gotten an x-ray.

SPEAKER_04 34:08

I probably should have, but it wasn't indicated when I got checked out at the urgent care. Yeah, you know, they were all like, Oh, you should go to the emergency room. I'm like, No, no, no, no, no, no. I work in the emergency room, I already know what's gonna happen. I'm not doing that. I'm just gonna go to urgent care. It's fine. I'm not dying. Okay. I just need to get checked out. That's it, you know. But the following week, when I got back, last week, you know, it kind of pissed me off that people were like, they were concerned, thankful. I'm thankful.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Yeah, you got you got that call from like somebody way up, you know. Yeah, she was really concerned, you know.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

Yeah, and then well, of course, right?

SPEAKER_02 34:49

You know, your end of the story.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

So it happened, yes. Should it have happened? No. What made me more mad was that to them this was just part of the job. You know, I think back and they were like, Well, you just gotta be careful up there. I'm like, don't fucking patronize me. Obviously, I know how to be careful around these patients. This is my third year teaching on this floor, like, cut it out. You'd fucking know I know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Like, I nerd to begin with.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

I knew who was in the room, I knew like potential people that could have been joining her to beat the shit out of me or my and or my students. Like, I know, don't don't tell me that. Yeah, that's annoying. Okay. How about you just own that you fucked up and then do you know and fix the you know, fix the problem. Right. Right. Um, but it just it just made me mad that that they were like, oh, you know, we're sorry this happened, but I'm like, no, no, no, just stop right there. Yeah, don't add to this anymore, you know, because quite frankly, like I would have just if I had some students, would I be like, fuck this. I'm walking, I don't need this bullshit. Like, what the fuck? Like, I would have been, you know, more pissed off, but because my students were there, I wasn't gonna make a fucking scene, you know. Like I had to be like, this is how you should act in these situations. And of course the students were like, wow, you're a better person than me. I'm like, you know, but it's not okay for nurses to get assaulted, whether it's verbal or battered in any sense, okay? And like it's not okay, and it's happening more and more. Violence against nurses, yeah. You know, I think there were like some statistics that are showing like eight out of ten nurses are getting assaulted, like daily, you know, whether it's a verbal assault or a physical building of one, you know. But then people are not taking steps to like make this problem stop.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Yeah, just like I think over the weekend, uh, you know, the town of Danvers Mass, there was a dude that uh uh from I think it was at uh Bishop Frenwick High School student.

SPEAKER_04 37:03

Don't name the schools.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Oh whatever. No, it's I mean it's all over the news. You know, there was a Bishop Fenwick student, some I don't know his name, but he was uh he you know, he crashed somebody's house and uh he murdered a woman and then he was made his way to Lynn and he's walking around, you know, the neighborhood in Lynn with a knife in his hand, and he's like uh walking, you know, they they showed the footage on TV. Somebody had a security camera, and he's walking down the street and he has this big knife and he's going up and down.

SPEAKER_04 37:37

Just kind of swaying it loosely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

It's not like yeah, and he was cut like cutting uh people's hedges, you know. But you know, multiple people called the police and you know they surrounded and got him, and he admitted right away.

SPEAKER_04 37:50

Yeah, you know, but um that that's unfortunate. Yeah, she was a nurse. She was a nurse. She was a nurse. Yeah.

unknown 37:58

God damn.

SPEAKER_04 37:59

You know, I don't think he knew that. I think it was they said that it was um that it was random, but that's frightening. Yeah, you know, like uh I I can't even fathom that. That's craziness. You know, on the subject of the uh workplace violence, I did I did see an article here um from the National Nurses United, and they give these quick, you know, um findings in their uh surveys that they conducted. Yeah, eight in ten nurses or eighty-one point six percent have experienced at least one type of workplace violence within the past year.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Wow.

unknown 38:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:39

So nearly half of nurses, 45.5%, reported an increase in workplace violence in their unit in their previous year. In contrast, only 3.8% of nurses reported that workplace violence decreased in their unit in the previous year. They're not doing shit to protect us. Right. You know? Um, so nurses experience multiple types of workplace violence on a daily basis, ranging from physical abuse to verbal threats. The three most common types of violence reported were being verbally threatened, when that's 68%, uh, physically threatened, which is 39%, and being pinched or scratched, that's 38%. Wow. Yeah. So basically, employers are failing to provide safe staffing, okay, which is would be helpful, right? You have too many patients to deal with at once, okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

And you know, like all these hospitals, all the security guards, they're they're down in the entrance area. Which where they should be, right? Right. But I mean, you know, they should have like every floor should have a security guard, every unit.

SPEAKER_04 39:47

Well, they they at least at my hospital, they respond very quickly. Like they're they don't waste any time, they they do what they can. And there's so few of them, too. You know, it's bananas, yeah, right? They can't be in all places at once, anyway. Right? And if they're in the if they're not centrally located, then you don't know where to get them if you need help, right? So it's good that they are where they are. And unfortunately, a lot of this stuff, you know, happens in the emergency department, you know. Uh, like that show The Pit, where that one, the charge nurse, got assaulted or battered by a patient outside, you know, who she had to confront about his behavior in the waiting room.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

Right. Is that a is that uh you guys call cold blue on that?

SPEAKER_04 40:36

No, code blue is when someone's not breathing, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

So think about a person that's a cold cold red is fire. Yeah. What's like security? Is there a uh it could be code gray? Yeah, yeah. Well, they just yell out code, just call for security, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

Yeah. So um, but it's different, some of the codes in the hospitals, but blue and red are the typical ones, you know. So and pink would be for a child, yeah, if you ever hear that.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

And brown's for shit.

SPEAKER_04 41:07

Code brown, absolutely. But anyway, it's it's senseless, you know, the violence, it's not necessary, and it makes it harder for us to go to work. Yeah, you know, at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

Nobody should be afraid or scared to, you know, yeah, to go to work.

SPEAKER_04 41:25

Absolutely. As we were saying earlier, the world has gone crazy. Like I was saying before, I was feeling that um that anxiety all the time, and thank God therapy exists because you know, I I talked that off today. Um because what I did yesterday, because now that I have you know, spring break and it's slower, right? Like during the day, I was outside and I was like, oh, there's a school bus. Let me look at the school bus for a second. And the back of the school bus, there's you know, it tells you the distance that you should stay from the school bus. Right. And it also says illegal to pass the bus when the red lights are flashing.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Right.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Okay. So anyway, bear with me. I look at the bus and I have to study it. And the reason why is because I ask questions, I'm like, when am I supposed to stop? I thought I was only supposed to stop when the stop sign came out, right? But the problem with me is that I'm colorblind and the lights look very similar in color. The yellow, orange, red, they kind of, you know. And so the way I've learned to adapt, for example, with traffic lights, is the positioning of the light. That's how I do it. So up here in the northeast, or you know, it's and in New York, it's most of the lights are hung vertically. Right. So I know, you know, from a distance, I could see the positioning or whether between the yellow and the red. Green's obvious, it's way different, right? Um, and in the south, I've in a lot of the southern states, I've seen it horizontal. So I know that the left is red. Okay. And then so I do that by the positioning, okay. Um, so on the bus, I noticed that the yellow lights are the two one, there's two sets of lights. There's outer lights and inner lights. The outer lights are the yellow lights or orange, whatever color it is. The amber and the red are the inner lights, but they look similar to me. Right. Like it takes me a while to look at it to go, okay, I can tell now, after a while of looking at it, the difference. Okay, because the colorblindness takes me a little bit of time. Um, so now that I have studied the bus, okay, that day when that guy spit on me, I didn't. Do anything wrong because the outer lights were flashing. So I was allowed to go past that bus. Right? That fucker just wanted to start beef with me or someone that morning.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

He was in a rush to go nowhere.

SPEAKER_04 44:15

Yeah. You know, there was no reason to act that way. So I didn't do anything wrong. And I remember I was freaking out. I was like, did I fuck up? Like, because I don't want to make kids, you know, put them in an unsafe situation. That's not what I want for children. Okay. So, like, I took that time to study that bus a little bit, you know, and I'm like, okay. I remember it was the outer lights that were flashing. Yeah. There was no stop sign because the stop sign flips out, right? On the driver's side. So then you don't pass the bus, you know. Um, and neither of those things happened.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

Right.

SPEAKER_04 44:53

Okay. So now we're good. I'm okay now because now I understand what I need to do.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

You know, you noticed you told me that um uh the bus was uh for Saint Mary's School, and on the back of uh of the bus where the exhaust was, it said holy smoke.

SPEAKER_04 45:12

Oh, stop it.

SPEAKER_02 45:16

Where do you come up with this shit? I'm here for the nonsense.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

Oh my god. So anyway, on the subject of people going crazy, like why are people going crazy? You know, like I this is not a new thing. Yeah, like I think uh because I was looking it up.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

You know what it is, it's paying it's a long fucking winter this year. Yeah, it really people are like mean, you know, cold and it's horrible.

SPEAKER_04 45:52

Yeah, but it there's some after effects from the pandemic still, six years later, right? Um, people are so like damaged from that, I guess, you know, and also like people are broke right now, right? The people can't afford shit, right? We're paying taxes like crazy. We're paying for groceries, utility money, yeah. They're more expensive now, right? People are angry about that and their wages are not catching up, right? So there's a lot of stress out there. People are just so angry, you know. Also, I find like generationally, like Gen Z seems kind of rude, you know, and and I'm and I was like, why is that like that? You know, and I guess for them, um it's more important to be um yourself and being they appreciate honesty over formality. Yeah, are we in Gen Z right now? The I think Gen Z is gonna be 40. They're approaching 40, the oldest ones.

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Really?

SPEAKER_04 47:05

Yeah, and so um, so that gener, and I I forget how young they are, but I think they're approaching or 30s at least. It's gotta be one of those. They're adults, yeah. Okay, some of them have kids, right? But they are more about calling people out, they're more they appreciate the honesty more, you know. Um, and when I mean formality, by what I mean formality, please thank you, holding the door for other people, right? Or like you know, when you hold the door for someone and they say thank you, that's uh that's like it's uh someone that's older, probably, right? You know, and they and they just someone who doesn't acknowledge you, they just think you're the fucking door holder. Yeah, like you know, Gen Z probably, right?

SPEAKER_02 47:55

Yeah, like they don't put the shopping cart back.

SPEAKER_04 47:58

No, you know, that no. I've seen older people do that shit too, but that pisses me off as well. They don't pick up after their dog when they shit all over the sidewalk.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

You know, I noticed today, you know, I had that bag of pistachios that you know that uh expired, you know, and it's probably half a bag, a lot of pistachios. I threw them all in the grass area by the parking lot. And when I tell you, there's there's probably 50, 75 loads of shit on that small patch of grass over there where they barbecue.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

It's horrible. Like, how can you just so it's somebody in the neighborhood that's just okay, this is the way my dog's gonna shit. I'm gonna let him sit, and I'm gonna because everybody else sits here. So it's like a uh a pond of shit over there. It's gross.

SPEAKER_04 48:49

Yeah, and like you.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

I don't get it where people don't pick it up.

SPEAKER_04 48:52

You know, on a rainy day, on a snowy day, pick up your shit. Yeah, right? Shit does not dissolve in water, yeah, right? It just sits there forever.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

Yeah, and there was disgusting. For for a couple of days, there was a good dog crap right at the gate where we go into the parking lot. Oh god, and people stepping in, you can see the the footprints in in it, you know, and then they're wiping it off. It's just gross.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Yeah, so it's ending up in their car, it's ending up in their homes. That's why we take our shoes off here because they don't want to track it in the house if I step on something, right? Oh man, but like that's one of my things that makes me upset, yeah, angry when people don't clean up after they're done.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

Well, I had that argument with the kid out the window. See, Gen Z, motherfucker. Yeah, we were we were sitting in the window, I was having a cigarette, and you know, we had the window open, and uh this motherfucker has he's out there walking his dog, and the dog took a shit, and I said, and he left. I said, Yo, he looks at me. I said, You gotta you're gonna pick that up. He goes, What? My dog shit in the snow? You getting mad at me? Because my dog's shit in the pick up your dog shit, man. He wanted to fight me. Come down. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_04 50:12

I mean, you started some beef with him too. Well, you know. The fuck? I'm like, don't do yell out the window. Come on, stop it. Just leave it alone, you know. But um, you're right to call him out. But at the same time, it's like, dude, they didn't do anything. I don't know if he ever went back to pick it up. No, no, you know, like it's so it's so fucking rude, man.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

And there's a lot of dogs around here. There are. Because you notice, like uh with the snow, right? The piles of snow, and you know, the dogs, there's there's yellow, you know, the dog lifts his leg and takes a piss, you know, in the snow. Yeah. So you see all the yellow stains, and like there's like 30 or 40 of them. Like uh, you know, when we walk into the car, you see, but it's like wow. It's disgusting. It really is. It really is gross. I mean, the dog's got to pee, you know.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

That's that's one thing, but you know, but it's happening in like in your more affluent neighborhoods as well, right? It's happening everywhere. People are just assholes. And I don't mean to shit on Gen Z because it's not they're not the only ones that I see this from. I see it from other people too, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

From other generations and every race and every like You know, I do you know it's I don't know how we got on dog shit, but um, when we used to walk um cocoa, you know, in that area, there was the you know, there's the uh the the parking signs and the pole, and the pole had like these holes in it, and I would put you know, a good you know, 10 or 15 bags through the hole, dog bags, for people, you know, and they they just nobody ever used them. No, they were they you know, every time we went out there, there's this there was it it wasn't getting depleted.

SPEAKER_04 51:53

Yeah, it's just we're on that subject because it makes me crazy, it's disgusting, and it's not good for the public health, right? Because, you know, shit has you know a lot, it's a lot of bacteria in there, right? And then it runs in the water and it gets into the you know what I'm saying? It gets everywhere, it's not good for the environment. You need to pick it up and throw it in the trash so it's disposed of properly. Aye, aye, aye. But other things that um that I was looking up that why are people so angry? Um also there are things like political polarization. Well, we've been talking about probably multiple episodes, yeah. You know, how people are on the right, how people are on the left, how people are woke, and how people are, you know, best friends are fighting over politics.

SPEAKER_02 52:44

Yes, how um um, you know, uh husband and wife are getting divorced over politics. Yes, I saw something.

SPEAKER_04 52:52

I mean, it's crazy today where a woman like threw her husband out because he voted for Trump. Yeah, you know, and I'm like, that's a little extreme, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

Right?

SPEAKER_04 53:02

Like, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

You know, you I was reading on Facebook, you know, something happened and everybody was commenting on it, and and like people are like, wow, like I grew up with that dude. I never realized he was like that, you know, talking about politics, you know.

SPEAKER_04 53:19

It's it's wild, it's wild to me because I I don't want to sound like I'm a reverse racist or something. That's not what I'm trying to. I'm just gonna state facts here, okay? Like how when did it become a thing where white men, white straight men are marginalized? Like, do they really think that they have less now because they have to you know I don't I don't understand that concept because you know the world is kind of built by your own people for your own people. So what is happening? So uh you're gonna you're gonna you wanna give a reverse discrimination to fail. You wanna like give a little sliver? You don't even want to give a little bit? Yeah, like dude.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

How's it feel? How does it feel?

SPEAKER_04 54:18

You know, like it I I I never understood that, yeah, that that that type of um right, right that kind of anger, you know. Um so that's something that I'm still trying to figure out, right? Because I I don't carry a chip on my shoulder, I would like to think. Like, but at the same time, I know that as a person of color, I have to work harder. I do. It's just my reality. That's it, you know? Um I yeah, it's I'm having a hard time expressing this for some reason because I'm trying to be um diplomatic about it and fair, okay. Like when DEI was crushed, right? Diversity, equity, and inclusion, I don't understand why that was. Okay. Because you look at the administration, it's mostly white, and I'm gonna say in air quotes straight men, okay, because you have your you have your closeted cases there that are, you know, that are admittedly in conversion therapy, which is fucking ridiculous, right? Because they think that, you know, um being gay is like having an addiction problem, like gambling, you know.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

Yeah, it can be cured.

SPEAKER_04 55:37

It's it's not it's it's not something to be cured.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Well, how how about uh the Iranian um shah or whatever the oh the ayatollah? They're saying that he's gay. Okay, so I Ayatollah asahola. What the hell do you come up with this shit? You're so crazy. Though I do like a parrot, you know, I hear something.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

I don't even know what the shit means.

SPEAKER_04 56:07

The thing is, like, so you sent me this post today, and I was like, get the fuck out of here. But yeah, but at the same time, I'm like, why am I why do I care about that? Like, it shouldn't make a difference that he's gay, right? Right? And what's like really extra upsetting is that there was an article that said that Trump had a good laugh about this.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

Oh, yeah, a big chuckle, you know, and then there was someone else that came out. Yeah, they all they all started to, yeah. It was they were laughing days later.

SPEAKER_04 56:42

Yeah, why is it a joke that someone is gay? Like that shouldn't make a difference, you know. But I guess in their culture it's uh hypocritical because um not and I don't want to blame the culture, but in Iran it is illegal to be gay, and people are apparently are hung by cranes for this, you know. And then they have like these surgeries, gender-affirming surgeries, you know, for gay men to become women, so that way it wouldn't be illegal anymore. So that to me is kind of weird, right? Because being gay for some reason, right, over there is being synonymous with trans. And it's not how it works. Trans is different, yeah, right. So all so basically, uh gay men in Iran, you know, to no longer be illegal for being gay, they transition their bodies into being female, so that way it's now legal. That's crazy. Yeah, that is. Okay, and so yes, so maybe there's a problem with him being gay because it's illegal over there, right? And I guess it's death is the penalty, right? That's what you get for that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

They say that he had a boyfriend or a mentor.

SPEAKER_04 58:15

He had uh his tutor, tutor, that's what it was a long time relationship that he had, apparently, you know.

SPEAKER_02 58:21

Yeah, so I mean, uh a tutor would be a little older, you know. I mean, I wonder what the difference is in age.

SPEAKER_04 58:29

I again, none of this is our business and it shouldn't matter. Yeah, right, at the end of the day. And here's the thing, right? Like, who's to say that because he is the leader now, that he could change, he couldn't have changed those things. Right? Maybe he would have been like, hey, it maybe we shouldn't make gay illegal because it's there's nothing wrong with it. It's some people are just born that way. We don't know that. Yeah, it's unlikely because the way you know, the way they've ruled over all those years, right? Um, so it's hard to say. I don't know. But again, we didn't need that war anyway. So we and and it just disappointing, not disappointing. I'm not surprised that the administration acted this way and be like, oh, that's hilarious that he's gay. No, fuck you guys. Like, what's wrong with it? So what? So fucking what? It's none of your business who he sleeps with. Fuck off, you know that that shit pisses me off. Oh, yeah. But speaking of like the post that you share, like another reason why people are fucking crazy right now is because of social media and rage culture, and what culture?

SPEAKER_02 59:47

Rage culture. Jesus Christ, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:49

Yeah, right. So apparently, you know, when people are doom scrolling, kind of like how I do when I'm on Reddit all the time, and I think that affects my mood too. Yeah. Because it sometimes I'm feeling kind of bummed about the shit that I read. And you might see the same thing in Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Well, yeah, I mean, and you know something. I look at Facebook when I open it up, it is so confusing. Like, you know, when I first started going on Facebook, you know, you were see what seeing what your friends were doing, you know, you could poke people. Now there's like advertising in videos, in politics, and news, and and people fighting. It's it's just crazy. Like, you know, and if you get into get caught in like uh some sort of algorithm, you know, it's it's just it's constant. You can't get rid of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

I know, I know. It's like horrible. It's like one wrong tap or swipe. Yeah, you're stuck in that fucking algorithm loop. God, it's terrible. So it really is basically doom scroll. They're looking at like conflict all the time, like you're saying, yeah, you know, anger, you know, bad shit happening everywhere. Right, right. So of course people are gonna be fucking crazy. That's all they see, that's all they see, right? And then, like, with all the stuff that's going on with like ice, you know, and what's going on with the wars, you know, we're we're becoming desensitized to it. Right, right. Right? It's like we're like accepting the cruelty towards LGBTQ still. Like I thought we were ahead of this, yeah, already, but no, we're going back, like I've been saying, right? Um, so yeah, people are now getting used to it. It's becoming normal for us. Yeah, you know. Um, and that's and that's the unfortunate thing. Because I mean, think about it though. What gets more attention? Right? Those those reels that you look at where there's cruelty happening. Oh, yeah. Right? When you're when there's rage and anger or war, like those are gonna get more clicks than those things that are like, oh, that's okay, yeah. You know, cute puppy, they got saved by, you know, yeah, you know, you forever home.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:06

The the other night you said something like, um, you don't want to wake up the gay community, you know, when it comes to you know them trying to uh stuff us down, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:18

No, no, because I mean they forgot about what happened at Stonewall. Yeah, you know, it'll happen again. It'll happen again. Oh, yeah, yeah, because they're coming for us. Yeah, you know, and women are gonna get pissed too, because you're coming for their rights. Like, no, don't don't fuck with anybody's rights, man. You know, you corner an animal, you're gonna get what you're gonna get.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:38

Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:39

Yep. So we already talked about stress and economic pressure, right? Because we talked about like you know, burnout of work. We haven't talked about that, but the cost of living is expensive as all get out. Yeah, it's tough, right? And people with job insecurity now, yeah. You know, that so people are gonna start to feel more powerless and they're gonna take it out on people they don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:03

Yeah, like like the way people are living now, like there's no room for error. Like, God forbid you need a new tire, yeah. Or or or a battery, you know, like that's you're not gonna eat for a few days, you know? Yeah, people are like living that way, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:19

Or imagine those who need to pay for their medications because they don't have coverage, right? Right? Like that that to me is crazy. Yeah, you know, other things that are going on, and and you know how I've been saying, like, I I have this anxiety about getting in my car now, having to drive it anywhere. I absolutely hate this feeling. It's this mild to moderate anxiety where I'm like, something bad is gonna happen. Yeah, there's so much fucking road rage. People are so aggressive, yeah. You know, even driving to our friend's house the other the other night or the other afternoon, um, we were kind of driving on a on a country road, okay, and the person behind me like was driving too close. Yeah, okay. Like, and this is how I gauge this, right? If I can see your fucking, if I can't see your fucking headlights, you're too close to me. All right. If I can see your fucking face, you're way too fucking close. Like, back the fuck off, you know, and what makes me crazy is that they know there's a car in front of me. I can't make the car in front of me go faster. I have no control of that. Yeah, and then they swerve to the side in the other lane to see what's going on in front of me, and I'm like, fuck off, asshole. Yeah, like you're in a hurry for what?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

You know, like it it's unreal. Yeah, and and like around here, man, people fly, fly around here in their cars, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

And there's a lot of pedestrians around here, oh man, right? Like it's so dangerous, you know. Um, but also like the thing that kind of gets me nervous right now, not only driving, but my brother was like, oh wow, let's uh let's plan a road trip. Yeah, you know, let's go, let's drive the California coast, let's drive from San Francisco to San Diego. And I was like, oh, that would be beautiful to do, you know. And now I'm like, look at what it looks like at the airports. You know, they're like, show up three hours early for your domestic flight. Get the fuck out. Yeah, spend your whole afternoon standing in line just to get through um, you know, the TSA. Yeah. Right? Who are apparently not getting paid right now because DHS can't get funded. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:47

Okay. Well, do you remember what happened last time when uh the TSA w were out? All the TSA agents that stayed on, remember Trump gave them all 10 grand?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

That's you remember that?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:01

Please. They're doing that for for show. They don't give a shit about any of those people.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

But oh there's a lot out now. You'd think that that would have been like an enticement. Well, you know, like look what happened before, man. I'm staying in work.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:17

No, there's they're gonna get screwed. It sucks. You know, they need to I hope they pay them because they're doing the fucking work, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:25

Like, um, but there are some cities that use private companies to do that, they don't just hire TSA. Really? Mm-hmm. I saw that, I forget which cities there were, but some I saw on Reddit, they were like, oh yeah, and I think I want to say it was LA or something. They're like, this airport looked fine, there's nothing going on here, you know, because they don't use TSA, they use private companies to deal with that. So I can't remember which city, don't quote me on it, but I know that there are some cities that are not using TSA to do that, and they're allowed to do that. It's amazing. Government agency. But the thing is, like, for us to fly fucking out of Boston to California, like in the coming months, where the cost of fuel is going up and fucking your wait times to get you know checked in and everything are gonna be bananas. I'm not not feeling it right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:16

Even tolls are going up.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:18

Yeah, it's it's crazy. I'm just not feeling it right now, and I'm feeling very uneasy that bad shit is going to happen. Don't like it, you know. So, do you think people are actually getting worse or are we just seeing it more?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:33

No, they're getting worse.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:35

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:36

You think so? Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. I see the attitudes at work, and everyone is kind of like the morale is shit. People are pissed off and angry.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

And that's another thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:47

People don't want to work, you know, and they're people don't want to they're they're not looking for jobs. Well, I mean, if you think about it, like look at how workers are treated.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:56

Of course they don't want to fucking work. I think I saw something with this woman, uh, another post on Reddit. Here we go, my doom scrolling. This woman at Red on Reddit works in a was working in a drive-thru and got pepper sprayed by a customer because she didn't like the wait time for her food. Damn. Yeah, like legit sprayed through her too bad you didn't uh use your mace on the guy to spit on you.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:21

That would have been a nice one.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:22

No, no, no. Come on. I don't believe that two wrongs make a right. That's not a situation I want to put myself in. My God. Like I the thing is, Anthony, like I, in my opinion, feel that I have a lot to lose as a nurse. Yeah. As a professor. Right, right. Like, you know, I lose my license, I won't be able to have a job anymore as a nurse in a hospital. Right. I lose my license, and I can't be a nursing professor ever again. You know, yeah. There's just way too much to lose, in my opinion. So I'm not gonna behave like that. Yeah, you know, unfortunately, that means that I'm a sucker because I'm probably gonna get assaulted again and I'm not gonna do it because I'm gonna be afraid to fight back, you know, because I'm like protecting, don't be anybody's punching bag, man, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

No, no, no, no. If you're getting hit, you gotta hit back.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:09

Of course. I mean, I'm gonna have to defend myself if it came down to it. If my life was on the line, absolutely, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:16

And and when you do hit somebody, make sure you take it out on them, like, this is for the that dude that spit at me. This is for the friggin' no. I I I I this is for the patient that that punched me in the face, just go right down the line.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:32

It's it's interesting that you bring that up because stress does add up.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:36

Oh, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:38

Like, and that's my thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:39

You snap. Yeah, then you're the aggressor.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:42

People fucking snap. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:44

I'm that's like I live in fear around you, that you're gonna come home and beat the fuck out of me. Why would you say that? I'm only playing. Relax.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:53

I don't think you and I have ever had a problem like that. We don't have many problems. I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:59

Just teasing, just teasing.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

Like, geez, like you shouldn't joke like that. People are gonna be like, oh my god, those two. They're fucking nutcases. Like, he's like, Oh, he's holding him hostage. He's an elder, help him.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:13

God, I'm gonna fucking knock you out right now. Oh, yeah, you're scared of me causing violence.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:19

God, but uh, you are 65 now, so yeah. Gotta get that AARP membership. Start using start getting that senior citizen discount everywhere you go. But anyway, but I had this conversation with my therapist today.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

If you hit me, that's you know, when you assault somebody, I think over 60, there's a that's an additional charge.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

That is an additional charge.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:48

You better be careful, fella.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:50

That is no, it's I think it cuts off in Massachusetts at 59. Really? Yes. Whoa. Yeah, it becomes, I forget what what other charge gets attached to that, but yes, it becomes more than just assault. You know, it's assault plus probably something to do with elder abuse. Yeah, you know, but I I'm just not that person. Yeah, like I don't need to engage like that, you know. Right because I did talk to my therapist about it today, that you know, these things keep happening, you know, dealing with the road rage of people, dealing with, you know, it's gotten me very anxious, and I don't want to snap, you know. So of course he talked about it and I love how he breaks it down for me because he's like, So what would like like for example with that issue at the hospital when I got punched? It was like, what would you have done differently if your students weren't there? I would have been like, I would have been like, you know what, fuck you guys, I'm out. I don't need this shit. I would have just walked away. Right? When my students are there, I'm not gonna make a scene. Or, you know, if like I don't know. I don't think I like I said, that guy who spit on me, I felt more sad for him. I'm like, wow, your life is really that shitty. Like really, you know, and and I I know that I do I can I snap? Yeah, I could, you know, everybody has that potential, but I don't want to be that person. So don't be that person then. Yeah, so I don't want to have that, you know, everybody has that potential, but I don't want to be that person. So and like I said, you know, I I feel like I have a lot to lose. I can't just behave like that, you know. Like that's just craziness. You know, the world is fucking crazy. That's all.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

There's not an ounce of hate in you. That's what I love about you.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:39

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

You you love everybody, everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:43

I just try not to engage when I don't need to, right? There's also that fear of getting shot now because you can't be starting beef with people because you don't know who's got a fucking gun anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:53

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:53

Right? Like, I don't carry, so like it's not gonna be a fair fight.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:58

Yeah, and you know, and in and the guns that they are carrying, if I can high caliber, like you know, rapid fire assault weapons. Yeah. That's fucking nuts. Yeah, yeah. No. I don't I don't know they spray, they don't shoot anymore, they spray.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:12

Yeah, ridiculous. Like we're not have there's no war here. What is going on, you know? Anyway, um people are just running on empty, you know. And I'm glad that my therapist was around to help me through that today because I felt a little bit better getting it out. Yeah. I was like maybe I'll feel less anxious about getting in the car now, even when people are you know in a ra enraged behind the wheel and like you know, potentially trying to cause accidents, you know, unnecessarily, you know. They don't think. I don't know what's going on in the minds of people, but it's it's not a problem that we're going to solve anytime soon. You know? Well, anyway, uh that's it for me. Talking about running out, you know, running on empty. So, anyway, like, subscribe, comment.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:11

And uh, if any of you out there have a cue off a sciatic, then let me know.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:16

Yes, Anthony is still going through it, suffering. Alright, guys. Have a good night. Come in.