Episode 9: Unpacking Some of the F*ckery

Recorded on Saturday, March 28, 2026.

In this episode:

• People suck
• Things we don't care much about, but pay attention anyway
• News bias
• Iran dominating the news
• The Middle East is like Game of Thrones
• Are we (the U.S.) the bad guys?

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Music: Stick The Landing by Everet Almond

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Ready, steady, go. Hey! Hey! What's up, Carlos? I'm Anthony.

SPEAKER_03 0:06

And this is Carlos.

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Hello, hello. It's been a week since we've been live on the air. I think it's been more than none. Yeah. And uh we're on the air, but are we live? Would you say we're live?

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No, we're pre-recorded.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

That's right too. Yeah, we're pre-recorded. Coming to you, pre-recorded from uh somewhere studios in Massachusetts.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The loft.

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The loft. There we go.

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Anywho.

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Anywho. Yeah, so I hey, you know what we've been missing?

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What?

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Our music. At the beginning. The music comes on.

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When I edit.

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Oh. Yes. It would be nice to have it. Like that. That pumps me up a little bit. Yeah, it pumps me up. We should do it from the beginning, right from the rip.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Well, imagine it in your head.

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I I forget what it is, what it sounds like. Can you can you remember right now what it sounds like?

SPEAKER_03 1:15

How funny is that? That is pretty funny. Um, but it's funny because every time I put a new episode on, I always fit it in with us like talking in the beginning. Right. It kind of blends in and kind of works his way through, right? So anyway, this has been an exhausting couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Oh my god, people suck. I know. People are exhausting.

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I used to like focus more on people's behavior, but now I'm just thinking people are just really terrible. They can be. And I don't be. And then I don't know if it's because of the areas that we work in. Like I'm in healthcare.

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Yeah.

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I see sick people all the fucking time. Right.

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I'm I'm I'm in healthcare also.

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Yeah, right. And like and you work in recovery and and your people are a lot too. Oh my god. I I overhear things and I'll be like, oh, like during my Zoom meetings, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Yeah.

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And like it's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Right, right. And you know, we both work you know in an industry where we uh we tend to have a lot of people with mental health issues.

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That and illness. Yeah. Right. Physical medical illness.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

Daniel, absolutely. And um, you know, until until we get them stabilized, you know, um, they're just out there. They are. They're just out there.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

And but what of the people that are not like quote unquote mentally ill or medically ill?

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Right.

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Right? They're just fucking assholes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they can be.

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Like yeah, it's it seems like of late it's it seems like there's a um selfish sort of, you know, fuck everybody. You know, I'm um if it's if it doesn't uh do me any good, I'm not fucking participating.

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Every man for themselves.

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Yep. Yeah, no, that's those little words I was looking for.

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That's what it's absolutely turning into.

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Yeah. Yeah. A free-for-all.

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Yeah. I mean, this past week we were, you know, on social media, and I don't know why I care about dumb shit like this, but that whole thing with Chapel Maroon.

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Yeah, that that wasn't cool.

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Like, I really like her music and I enjoy her music. Yeah.

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Well, you know what it is, Carlos? Misinformed people, misinformed people.

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Yeah.

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In a nutshell.

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But at the same time, you know, she comes off a bit angry and abrasive.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

Well, now that you know what she did, what she did, you know, the the um spotlight is on her. So now every little thing is gonna, you know, is gonna shine, it's gonna bloom. But the thing is, she didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

That's what I'm saying. Right? People made assumptions based on like a previous post on social media about her behavior. Right. You know, and I like her, you know, her music is catchy. She's actually quite talented. Yeah, you know, and I I like the shows that I've like she's put on. Yeah, it's kind of fun to watch, you know. I I I've never been to a live show of hers, but you know, um, I never had the chance yet.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Yeah, those of you who don't know who we're talking about, it's Pink Pony Club, Pink Pony Club, that's that's who we're H-O-T-T-O-G-O.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

That's that's who we're talking about. Everybody knows who this is.

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Yeah, not everybody, but um oh, because we're old.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

Seriously, you know, but it you know, I I I don't know. Like if I were famous, I think I might hate paparazzi all the time in my in my face, in my shit. You know, right. I think everybody has a right to privacy, yeah, and and they're always in your face, I guess, right? And I I could see how that can make someone crazy.

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Right.

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Right?

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You know, that's like I think um you know one of the soccer stars, Ronaldo or no, not Ronaldo.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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I'm no this is different. Um, you know, he he played, I think, down in Florida on one of the Florida soccer teams. And, you know, if he was over in Europe, he wouldn't be able to like go grocery shopping. He would be swarmed with, you know, photographers, the paparazzi people, you know, and um he was here in America doing a shopping. I want to say he played somewhere in Florida or California. And him, his wife, and his kids were they they were in a you know, um uh doing a grocery shopping, right? And going about their business and nobody knew who they were. They were probably so relieved everybody's even the fuck alone. And like, you know, they were looking at the you know the the American products and like, you know, reading them and taking their time. You know, it was nice. It was it seemed like it was nice for them. It was a relief that they didn't have to put up with the nonsense, you know. Yeah. That's you know, but that's that's what they signed up for.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

But that's the thing. That's the you do sign up for it, but does that mean that you shouldn't have the right to your privacy?

SPEAKER_02 6:29

No, right. You know, well, you know what it is? There's money on the other end of it. Of course. People taking pictures, getting the story, you know, um, the tabloids.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

Yeah. And they love that. They love when you have an outburst and speed. That's what they want. That's what they're waiting for. Right. And and I guess she fed into it a couple of times. Yeah. Her behavior isn't appreciated, and it almost comes off as she doesn't like fandom at all. Right? She doesn't like to be famous. Yeah. And I think there were some people before, like Amy Winehouse, didn't love to be the center of attention all the time, you know, even though she was magnificent and super talented. And I'm still sad about her death.

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Seriously.

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Right.

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Um, what a lost talent.

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Really, what a lost talent.

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I hate lost talent.

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Um, but the whole thing with her, that I guess what happened that you know, the 11-year-old girl and her mother was approached by a security guard in this hotel in Rio, right? Yeah, Brazil. Yep. And um, and I guess it made the girl cry, which is not appropriate. Right. But then it turns out that Chaporone didn't know what the hell was going on. Yeah, it wasn't her security. People were getting and people were hating on her already.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah, right. And this is based on previous right. No, let me stop you for a second. Even the mayor got involved. The mayor of the mayor of Rio doesn't want her performing anywhere. Like in on on um Copacabana Beach, yeah, they have a huge concert every year where like two or three million people show up on the beach and they have various bands, you know. And she is not invited because of this.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

She wasn't invited to that anyway.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Right, but she's not going to get she may have been, you know.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

No, she wasn't. She had nothing to do with that. Okay. And this mayor, by the way, was only mayor for like two fucking weeks. So what do you like? And this ass hat was like, well, I'm gonna ban you now. And like, what the what what do you that's that's where you choose to flex your muscles? Yeah, no, like the first half hour of your job. Like, get the fuck over yourself, dude. But this is my problem, right? You give people power, you give them money, and they act like assholes. Yeah, and I don't understand that, right? And the and this is my problem with this soccer star, you know, and I know I'm not shit talking soccer. What's his name? I think it's Jorginho, but it's spelled with a J I O. I you know, and I don't even know if it's pronounced. I don't know if it's Giorgino.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Yeah, he's he's like in the top 10 best in the world.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

Yeah, he's like huge, everybody knows him, and on top of that, this girl, her father, um, is Jude Law, right? Her biological father's Jude Law. He's a famous British actor, right? Right. Um, he's got like lots of babies out there, yeah. Like with a lot of baby mamas, but that's another thing to to that's another whole show. But the thing is, like they were approached by the security guard, like you said, it wasn't her security, and then she got fucking rained down on by a lot of people, like people who then like forgetting that hey, um no one's heard her side of the story, and I was like, I don't know, this sounds a little bit too easy.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

You know, there's to come down on that. There's three sides to every story, uh-huh. You know, your story, my story, and the truth. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

The truth. So it did come out finally because the security guard did come forward and say that he was he took responsibility for that, and it is not part of her security team, right? You know, so maybe he might have overreacted because the hotel was probably like, we have to protect our people that come here, right?

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Right.

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You know, that's part of the experience of being in a nice hotel, right?

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Yep.

SPEAKER_03 10:17

Um, so he might have overreacted, but of course, before any of that came out, the mother of this child went on to add fuel to the fire. Oh, yeah, you know, and again, not not knowing the whole story, you know, and uh yeah, so this shit storm ensued, and what's gonna happen, you know? Like, I don't think she's gonna get an apology, right? Right, yeah and and and it's and this is and this is the fucked up part, right? Because everyone's gonna believe the guy first, the famous soccer player, and this and this misogyny that goes on every fucking day, right? Right, like um it's it yeah, yeah, my whole point is she's not gonna get an apology, right? Right, he's gonna get away with what he did. Yep, and I think she has some recourse to sue the motherfucker. Well, I hope she could, you know, like I mean it's it's a shitty thing to do, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Yeah, over a million people responded to that uh uh the initial post on that.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

Yeah, you know, and how about that other story with like uh what's her face from The Bachelorette? Oh my god. I mean, I shouldn't be like what's her name, Taylor Frankie, uh what's her fucking name? Frankie Paul. Taylor Frankie Paul. So apparently I didn't know anything because I don't watch The Bachelorette. It's not one of the trash TVs that I love to watch. I'm more of a Love Island, but a Love Island UK kind of guy. So I'm kind of excited that it's coming back.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

I I seen something, I think it was like Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood, and they were showing all the billboards. They were, you know, the people that put up the billboards, they were taking all hers all hers down, you know, that the network put up. And um, I I guess it cost, was it NBC or ABC? No, ABC. ABC like 50 million dollars.

SPEAKER_03 12:09

But they already knew she was a fucking nutcase.

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They did.

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Yes, they already knew because I think she already had like these issues out there. Really, you know, um, she already, I forget exactly what it was, but they fucking gave her the job anyway, right? And then this video came out, yeah. But then here's the thing, right? I talked about misogyny with the Chapel Ron case, right? But in this situation where it involves a man and a woman, and there's abuse, right, at home, a domestic abuse issue, right? If he were to hit her back, he would have gone to jail.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Oh, no doubt.

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He would have been the villain.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

That's what I'm saying, you know, and but but that video was scary. Well, you know, she was done, not only hitting him, launching chairs at him, like these metal stools.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Anything she can get her hands on, and not just once, she did it several times.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Yeah, and he and he was like, You're hurting me. Yeah, stop, you're hurting me. And and not once did he retaliate. No, not once did he retaliate.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

And I think her daughter was there, she got hurt.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Yeah, she was crying, Mommy, stop. I was trying to help, yeah, you know, and that's like that's some serious psychological, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

She's got some sort of personality disorder.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Yep. Um, that's seared in into her mind. That little girl, that's seared into her mind.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

Of course, that's her trauma that she's grown up with, yeah, right. And so, I mean, it kind of reminds me of the whole uh Johnny Deb Amber Heard bullshit, yeah, right, and how she was getting him for defamation, but I'm like, not defamation if they're facts, you know, like it it just blows my mind, you know. It is intense. That video was intense, yeah, craziness, you know. But I I I hope she gets help. I mean, it should we shouldn't be, you know, demonizing those who need help with their mental health problems because gee she she needs psychological help. A lot of people are like, oh, she needs jail time, but yeah, jail time's not gonna solve the problem.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Hey, do you do you think that like um he knew something was going down and he like turned on his phone or like what? Like, you know, did he reach for his phone and say, I'm fucking putting this all on video, you know, I'm gonna hang you. But apparently I wonder what happened there.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

But that happened three years ago. That video of 2023. Oh, it's come out now.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

So I don't know what something happened between them.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Yeah, I don't know what happened, but it came up and now she got canceled.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Yeah, like quite literally. Was she doing anything else besides that? Any other endorsements?

SPEAKER_03 14:51

Nope, that's it. She's probably lost all of them now because now they're like, hmm, we can't support her.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Now, was she already on the show?

SPEAKER_03 14:58

The Bachelorette? Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

So I so I don't understand the show. I thought it was like, you know, all those people were on, they picked they picked the bachelorette, and then they get new people for the next season.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

No, it's the so I think it alternates. Like it's bachelorette, then next season will be The Bachelor or something like that. Something crazy. Right, but did she did she win the bachelorette? Uh I don't know. I think she got chosen because she was a she was on that show on Hulu, the Mormon Wives show. So there's that other fuckery that she's whoa, I know. It gets good just keeps going. But yeah, she's uh there's a whole lot of stuff there. She needs help. That's the bottom line. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

She needs help. Yeah, and you know something, you know, um, who are we to judge her? I mean, if you think about it, she needs help. We don't know what she's going through. You know?

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Yeah, that's fair.

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Um damn.

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I know.

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I hope I hope that But if that's but you know, if that's the case, you know, um hate the illness, don't hate the person.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

Yeah, yeah. But like they have to protect that young girl though. Oh, no doubt. Like that's absolutely that that girl needs to be the priority. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Um now let me stop you for a second.

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Yeah.

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Um were they just boyfriend, girlfriend?

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Yeah, they were not married.

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They weren't married. That's what I understood. Who is the daddy of the little girl?

SPEAKER_03 16:26

I have no idea. I didn't dig that deep.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Wow. I wonder what he's thinking. I don't know. We gotta look into that.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

I guess we could.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

I'm not that's interesting. You know, to see your daughter go through that.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

That's so funny what you care about and what I care about. Well, I mean, you know. I mean, I I I didn't like I said, like all this media stuff I really don't care about. But for some reason, I got sucked right in. Yeah, yeah. I got sucked right in and I looked at stuff, I looked at videos and all.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Oh, you go right to it, insert. I go right to it. Insert uh research mode.

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Yeah, fucking moth to a flame and shit.

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That's not a bad thing.

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I don't know. I could have been using my type or better things.

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Oh, yeah. Tell me about like editing.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

Oh yeah, it should be editing. Fuck you. God. I well, this week, you know, I had the spring break this past week, and it I still didn't.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

You know, I was just gonna say, um, you were on spring break, but I didn't notice you on any break.

SPEAKER_03 17:28

Yeah, I know. I was I was doing catch up work for the college as a as a professor, right? We have all this other fuckery that we have to deal with. And then like I scheduled myself for four nights in a row at the hospital. No, I know, you're exhausted. I was like homicidal by the end of that four-year string. And in between, man, and in between, I still had to because when we got back after Sunday, yeah, right, yeah. Monday morning I came home, had to go to work, right? And then had to go back to work on Monday night. Like, I was just spent. Oh, you were spent, you know.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

You know, you're burning the candle on both ends. Tuesday I had to get up too.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

Like, Mac, please kill me.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Seriously, talk about uh deprivation of sleeping.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

No, and I had to flip back today's because I had to go back and teach clinical.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Yeah, like you didn't you you were like you know for a couple of days. What uh what's today's date?

SPEAKER_03 18:24

Yeah, I was like, what do I have today? I just I just open my my calendar and go, okay, I gotta be here now.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Yeah, you're like what's today, Monday.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

Just went with the motions, right? But oh man. I I do though, we we what we do, although our routine is when I get home, I always brew coffee. Oh yeah, right. It's five in the morning. Yeah, I'm I'm home, you get up, no, you wake me up, and I plug the news on all the time. Yeah, we always have the news on in the background, and it's interesting because you and I have this conversation. Like, how do you know any of this shit is real anymore? I know, right? And it's interesting because like my colleagues on both jobs at both jobs, you know, we're like, who do you trust for news? Right? And automatically, like for someone research for someone like me, I'm like, research. Well, yeah, so all sides media has a bias chart of news because I looked into it just to see if I'm really biased. Okay, and so I'm more to the left, obviously, right? You gotta explain the the chart. Well, the chart is separated by there's center, and then there's center left, and there's left left, and there's center, center right, right, right. Okay. Now, the news that I often watch is gonna be I love and miss CNN, right? Because I love like Ebbie Phillip, because I think she's probably one of the most brilliant people out there. Um, but unfortunately, CNN requires a subscription now, it's no longer part of my HBO Max, and I'm a little pissed about that, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Um timeout, is that right or left? That's center left. Center left.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

Yeah. And then we always have NBC News on.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Right.

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Center left.

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Okay.

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Okay. Um, but that's more for our local news, right? Right. And then like I do read the New York Times when I, you know, center left. I listen to NPR, center left. I read Politico, center left. Um, and then there's left left, which is the Atlantic, which I will read as well. Uh Daily Beast, left left, um, The Guardian, Huff Post, Mother Jones. Yeah. So these are ones that the New Yorker, I read and Vox, I read these, right? I read a lot of things that come out of there now. But my favorite news is really the BBC news.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Because I have it on all the time, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:01

Yeah. And that is, I mean, you know, I think that the coverage is awesome, the reporting is awesome, but uh watching it, it's just strange to me with the British accent. Yes. You know, it's like so it's just it's just odd.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

Yeah, well, I mean, to be fair, like I have to put the subtitles on because sometimes I don't catch all of it. Right. Right. And the way they're taught at BBC, they have these elocution lessons where they speak aloquent. Yes, eloquently, right? And then they get so that way they can be understood by everybody, and it's kind of like the the educated way to sound, so to speak, right? And the BBC is supported by the the government there in England, from what I understand. Some of their tax money goes towards support.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

Are they are they left or right?

SPEAKER_03 21:55

They are center. Center dead center.

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There you go. And that's what that's What I would like to watch.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

Yes, and that's why I watch them. I also watch The Hill, because they are also central.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

So now when when we're talking center, we're talking the truth.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

So called. As truthful as you can get. Because there is, you know, there's another chart that I saw is that um you could be center, center, but more factual or more sensational. And BBC is really more factual than sensational. And yes, then sensational and center.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

So that's why I appreciate them. The Hill, also center, center. More factual, but more sensational.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

So now I would say what would be the most sensation, what would be the most sensationalized news to watch?

SPEAKER_03 22:51

The most sensationalized news to watch. Ooh, that's a tough one. That's a tough, that's a tough one. There's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Democracy Weekend update on uh left left. Weekend update on um SNL.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

But now that we've talked about the left and the center, let's see what's on the right. Okay. So center right is the Daily Mail from England. Okay. Uh you have Fox Business, which is center right. The New York Post is also center right, all right. The Wall Street Journal, all right, and then you get right right. Who do you think falls there? Fox. Yes, numero Uno. Numero Uno and O A N, the New York Post, all right, uh Daily Wire, the Federalist, uh Breitbart, the American Conservative, no fucking way. Like, you know, and so I have a tendency to read some of those articles too, just because I'm curious as the way they spin it, right? Because the story, so for example, one of the stories, because I was talking about this to one of my colleagues at the hospital, and they were asking the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

One of your what?

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Colleagues.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Uh-oh. So you know the difference between me and you, you would say, one of my colleagues. I would say, yeah, one of the guys I work with. Well, they're ladies that I think one of the one of the women I work with. I just I never got into calling my workmates colleagues.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Or my co-worker.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Co-worker. I wouldn't I would use that. Co-worker. No, you can say colleagues.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

I don't know what difference that makes me to say. It does, it's just, you know. But anyway.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Intellectually speaking.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

I'm not trying to be intellectual, it's just a word that I use. But anyway, we were we were talking about this the week before last because the whole story that broke out with Christine Gnome, how she became the special envoy to the shields of the Americas, whatever the fuck that title is. I think that's the title. Unbelievable. But but now she's no longer DHS, right? She's she lost her gig and it went to some other dude that's also not qualified, but we'll we'll talk about that. And why did she lose her gig? Well, because remember, we we brought up that um she spent all this money, like to over 200 billion on advertising for ice.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

My God.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Which is crazy. And it seemed more like it was more advertising for herself, right herself look good.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Well, and I bet you, right, that somehow, somewhere, some way, with all that advertising, that her people developed an advertising agency. So that money that she was spending went to an advertising agency deep down somewhere that she is connected to, because that's how they do it in politics. I'm sure. They create these businesses and they funnel the money down. And you did say that in a previous episode. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

And I have to not disagree. I totally do agree with that because I'm sure because where the fuck else is this money going? Well now they got rid of her so she can go spend it. Yeah, but somebody also just pulled the same shit. Oh, yeah. But anyway, the whole point of bringing that story up again was because someone in the center said would say that, you know, she got fired. You know, but on the extreme left, they were like, you know, demonizing the fuck out of her. And they made her sound like, oh, you're a piece of shit and you deserve to lose your job. You got fired, you got, you know, you're destroyed. And on the right, they said, Oh, she got promoted. Oh my god. It's wild. It is wild.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Well, you can't fucking make this shit up.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

But that's what I'm saying, right? So it is important where you get your fucking news from.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

It really is.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

And so, and then and you're right, you know, like BBC, Reuters, you know, like those are the and the Hill, those are really the three that I constantly.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

For some reason, I always thought Reuters was like a military news agency. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

I don't know. I didn't think they had the best reputation, but on the scale where the sensationalism versus factual, yeah, I think they go lower towards sensationalism, but really BBC is at the top. Okay, so it's the cleanest news, I guess, that you can get. Um, I'm sure there's others out there that are not.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Who developed this information on these channels?

SPEAKER_03 27:30

All sides media, okay. And all sides media.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Now now look now, since they're in the media business, where are they? Um that are they middle? Are they on the left?

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Well, they're not taking sides. That's why they're all sides. And and they do um talk about how they um they have to be somewhere. They talk about how they are a trustworthy source and how they keep their information transparent. Self-proclaimed? Well, I I'm I didn't dig that deep, so I'm just saying this is one chart. But there are other charts out there, but uh when I compared it to other like you know, beat my uh biased media charts, it's pretty consistent.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Right.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

They all kind of agree on the on the same agencies that are more to the center. So yeah, it really does matter what you get your news from. So and uh what else this week? Oh, speaking of media, uh it looks like Trump wants to rebalance the media again, right? Or not again, but rebalance it. But this is the problem that we have now, because a lot of the billionaires already control, like like CBS is under fire all the time. Well, not them, but their talk show hosts are always on under fire, right? Was it Colbert? Who else? I can't remember who else was there. Um, but they're always giving them shit, right? Uh, but all this media is getting controlled now by money, you know. So whoever has the most money can control whatever, you know? And and he's saying that he wants to rebalance over quotes.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

The old saying it pays to advertise.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

I don't know about that, not sure about that. Um, so anyway, all we see in the news now is this war in Iran, right? Um, and we're calling it a war because it's what now, two months now? Yeah, the fuck, right? And they were like, oh, it's a military operation, you know. And like this gives me like the weapons of mass destruction Iraq virus from the 90s. Was it the nineties? Yes, it was the nineties, right? And I I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

It just Trump wants he knows he did wrong, he wants out, he doesn't know how to get out of it without saving face, without losing face.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

There's that I don't think there's any way to get out of this, right? He's already gone too far.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Right.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

He thinks it all comes out to the straits of uh Hermoose.

SPEAKER_03 30:07

Hermouse. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Well, you know, because um, you know, we we've got to open up that lane needs to be opened up, and you know, anything that goes in there that belongs to any, you know, to to the US or anything that is against Iran is gonna get blasted, you know, from from missiles, you know. They can't send U.S. Navy ships in there or any Allied ships, you know. Um, they'll be destroyed. You know, they'll be sitting ducks.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

Well, because that strait is what between well, it's at Iran is at the north, right? And I think the UAE is on the other side, right? Right. So that's only one area now, and as of today, was it the Gulf of Aden, which is uh the Houthis, whom Saudi Arabia couldn't defeat before?

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Yeah, right? You know, we were fighting against the Houthis in the Iraqi war. I remember that. They were they were a tough cookie back then.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

I mean, it's it's it's wild because my whole point in bringing this up, first of all, you know, it's the war's dominating the news, right? Yeah, right. So other things are not being paid attention to. You know, um gas prices. Oh, that's up in the news because everybody's you know they're synonymous to what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

We're nearing four plus a gallon, right?

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Yeah. Wow, in California, I think it's reaching like seven. Wow. Yeah, it's getting stupid.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

You know, I wonder what the all-time high ever was in it's always California that's the highest.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Because you know what it is, the the emission control there, you know, they uh really strictly.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

I would imagine and taxes and things like that. Oh, yeah. The reason why I bring this up is because not only is it dominating the news and taking attention away from things like the Epstein files, right? Like because we're not like I haven't heard of that for a while. I haven't heard from that in a while. So don't lose you know momentum on that guy's loving attention. Of course.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

No, I'm talking Epstein.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

I mean, if he's alive, you know. I know we can know. But here's my other thing. I was more curious about wait a second. Like, what does Iran have to do with any of this? You know? So I started to dig. You know what it comes down to?

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Trump, right? He's got like these built-in never forgetters. Uh and I remember back in the day in the, I think it was the late 70s when they held all the American hostages at the embassy there in Iran, and um, you know, all the students out there protesting and debt to America, you know, and through the years, you know, that um that call bet to America for 40 years, they've been blasting it. And um, you know, even Trump said it. They've been saying debt to America for 40 years, so now we're gonna fucking do debt to Iran. That's my excuse.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

But does that justify that? Not at all. It's just words. Not at all. For fuck's sake. But this goes many years deep. Oh, yeah. Okay, absolutely. Because I I was like, why are they attacking Iran? Like, why does Israel want, other than them being Arab and Israel being Jewish, you know, what's going on there? Because I was confused. I'm like, why are other people getting involved? Right. And it really boils back down to Israel at the end of the day. Like, I believe that we're fighting Israel's war here. Right. Okay. And a lot of people will support that idea, saying that maybe they have shit on this administration. And from the sounds of it, they have shit on a lot of administrations, like in the EU and everywhere around the world, right? But there's a lot here for them to like fuck with and control. Yeah. Okay. And not only that, we fund them like billions of dollars annually, right? Um, and people are angry about that too, right? Because the simple thing to say is like, oh, you're getting all this money, you have free education for your people, and you have free health care as well. And then we're over here, everybody's suffering, right? Um I'm still paying my deductibles.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

I know, like motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

But the anyway, so I I think we we talked about this before with the state of Israel, right? Um, being established. And I think it starts really there because when I started to like understand why Iran was involved, the Middle East is wild, it is a mess. I swear it's like Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon, The Walking Dead. Like it's you know crazy, yeah. Which by the way, I love those shows. You should watch them. Uh, House of the Dragon, in my opinion, is better. And and I just finished that Knight of Seven Kingdoms show. And you fell asleep again. And you were like, oh, what's this? This looks cool. That was you. I was like, oh geez, here we go. But anyway, State of Israel, again, because we talked about this and just a quick recap was established in May of uh 1948, okay, following a UN resolution to partition British-controlled Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. Okay, so we know this, right? And in the light, the late 19th century, um, you know, uh the Zionist movement, you know, there was that rise of Zionism. Uh it they wanted an establishment for a Jewish national home in Palestine, of all places, right? And it goes it goes further than that, you know. But the thing is, the British basically had, I guess they were colonizing the Middle East, and they were like, Well, we're just gonna plop you right there then, you know, because you have a right to a state. They dropped them right there, and they're like, Okay, see, you know, oh, yeah, oh, because you know, that's where the United Nations came in, right? Because that was that Balfour, first of all, Balfour Declaration in 1917. That's when the British were like, okay, yeah, you have a right to your state. We're gonna drop you right there, right in Palestine, right? And you wonder why people are pissed, right? And so following World War I, that British mandate, right, after they, you know, after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, because that's who was in charge of that area back then, right? When the British controlled that territory, you know, they they were like uh managing the increasing immigration, and then because of that increasing immigration, there was of course more tension between the Jews and the Arabs. Okay. And then the Holocaust happened, right, 1939 to 1945. How many was it? Six million Jews? Yeah, probably more, you know. Almighty magic. And so there was that genocide. Yeah. Okay. So Jews, uh, you know, that kind of increased their, I guess, the support for them to have a Jewish state. Okay. And then in 47, that that's when the UN did their partition plan. Okay. So they wanted to divide Palestine into two states. Okay. So again, you're you're colonizing the area, you're throwing people out of their homes, right? And now that's under international control. Okay. So the Jews were like, yeah, we'll we'll we'll take the deal. And the Arabs were like, fuck no. And then they got into a conflict, right? So they have the war and they have the independence in 1948, right? Um, so David Ben Gura Gurian uh declared and established the state of Israel, uh, which was immediately recognized by the U.S. and others.

unknown 38:14

All right.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

So immediately recognized. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 38:17

And then the next day, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War began. Wow. All right. Okay, so that leaves us to that. Okay. So that all happens. And then, I mean, I swear, because I'm like, again, how does Iran have anything to do with this? But before we go into that, I would the other question I had asked was, you know, is that considered occupied land? Absolutely it is. It did not belong to the Jews or to Israel. Yeah. Okay. So they're occupying the land. And the other question I had was, was this a form of reparations? Well, since since the you know, the Palestinians were plopped there. No, no, no. The Jews were plopped there.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

The Palestinians were already there. Okay, so the Jews were plopped there. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 39:03

So of course who was there first? Well, the the Arabs were there, but apparently, if you go further back in time, right, the Jews were there, but over throughout history, you know, they got pushed out, right? And wars and stuff. You know what I'm saying? So but the but the area is predominantly Arab. Okay. And that's where it gets difficult, right? Because the Jews apparently have uh, I guess, documentation that states that they were there for the like centuries, you know, and so that's what makes it difficult, right? Like, but the thing is, like you left, you know, uh whether you left because of war or you know what I'm saying? Right. You left and you established in other places around the world, yeah. Okay, so and now you want it back. So I that's where I'm having difficulty with this, okay. But anyway, back to the idea of reparations. So that I wanted to see if this was a form of reparations for the Jews, okay, and it wasn't because Germany, in addition to the land that they got in Palestine, Germany still paid out for the Holocaust. You know what I'm saying? Um, so it's not a form of reparations. Um, but as I mean, there's just there's just so much to unpack, like that it's hard to keep track of because what it turns out is that Iran is you know, they basically supported Gaza. All right. Yeah, there's just so many alignments and realignments that go on that it's so hard to like keep track of. So you have the axis, the axis of resistance, right? So this is Iran's alignment, okay. So it's dominated by Iran, and this network consists of uh state and non-state actors, including Hezbollah in Lebanon, uh armed groups in Iraq, uh, the Assad regime in Syria, and the Houtis in Yemen. So now, if you think about it, right, this bloc you know relies on unconventional warfare, missile capabilities, and influence through other local affiliates. So with Iran, you you have them being being sided with Lebanon, right? Um Hezbollah and Lebanon, uh some groups in Iraq, and the Assad regime in Syria, and the Houthis in Yemen. And that's why Lebanon was getting bombed, and that's why um you know Yemens getting involved, okay? Like it's wild. This is like very hard to keep track of, right? And then you have the US backed side, the US backed slash Israel Gulf coalition, okay. And and that's gonna have like the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan. Okay, so they're on the other side. You know, it's horrible. It's so hard to keep track of. That's why I'm having a hard time. Yeah. Okay. So the Abraham Accords, okay, which we heard about not too long ago, right? Uh, it's part of the US-led system, and this includes Israel, the UAE, the United Arab Emirates, right, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco. All right. Yeah, it's crazy. And then there's Turkey and Qatar, right? Um, and they kind of have a less rigid alignment. Okay, you know, they kind of don't want to be in that conflict. They just want to do their thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Yeah, but you know something, Turkey and and uh Qatar, they've been known to cause the US some problems.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

Yeah, I mean, they can.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

No, they have. They they've, you know, they they've attacked uh U.S. interests. But no Navy vessels. But what are our bases?

SPEAKER_03 43:16

But but what are our interests? That's the thing. You know, that's that's what's like breaking this apart is trying you know, trying to understand. We have to remain popular.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

We want to be invited to every fucking party.

SPEAKER_03 43:31

No, it's just insane.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

No, I know, but that's we we gotta we get you know, we're into every fucking thing everywhere. Yeah, we are why can't we just stay home? Let's stay home for a night and put our fucking feet up and light a fire.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

Well, a lot of it has to do with greed. That's the problem. Right. So the history of Iran, also, you know how they were like, oh, they cannot build a nuclear weapon. That was why they, you know, went after them. Was their reason for attacking them? Yeah. Right. But apparently, didn't we take out all of those things recently? Not too long ago.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Suppelingly.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Right. So how are they rebuilding them?

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

And so they, you know, Iran, you know, they they have pursued nuclear programs, you know, since nine the since the 50s. Okay. Um, they haven't been successful. All right. But the thing is, like, there was a time where there was um what did they call that?

SPEAKER_02 44:31

You know, it would be a lot more easier for Iran just to buy some fucking nukes. Don't even why why why build the reactors? Why build the nuclear stations? Just fucking buy them.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

Go out there and buy them from, you know, it's not that easy because you have you have a non-proliferation agreement.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

Oh, who listens to that?

SPEAKER_03 44:57

It basically states that, you know, like so that came after a bunch of nations.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Do you do you think that the the the Russians in China, you know, because you know, you can only have this many nukes, you don't think that they go over and beyond their stockpiles, their allotments. Same thing with US. I've nobody's honest.

SPEAKER_03 45:17

Well, the whole idea with that whole non-proliferation agreement is that if you have nukes, you get to keep them. Okay. Um, however, if you have them, the idea is to dismantle them eventually. All right. And like countries that have them right now, the US, the UK, France, China, Russia.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Do you do you remember when when the USSR broke up? They were wondering where all the nukes went?

SPEAKER_03 45:49

I don't remember this.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

Oh yeah. Yeah. Like like where are all the nuclear weapons? God knows, like, where they are.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

But the thing is, like, they could have been, you know, developing to, you know, waste infrastructure for energy. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily have to be.

SPEAKER_02 46:13

You know, the way uh we attacked Iran. Um, do you think that if they had a nuke right in their backyard, do you think that they would use it to attack US It's hard to say. I mean, they might have one, they just might not have the capabilities of delivering it.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

Well, I mean, they they have a ballistics program. You know, they've tried to launch missiles towards um which island was it recently that they that was like 2,000 miles away that that had was a British base. Really? Yeah, and they it didn't make it, didn't reach.

unknown 46:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

They wait, they would they wanted to see if how close they can get?

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Wow, you sunk by battleship, they're playing, huh?

SPEAKER_03 46:59

Oh, yeah, yeah. They they cannot, you know, but the whole idea behind that, so here you're so they're practicing for a reason, Carlos. Yeah, there's nine countries who have nuclear weapons, right? That's Russia, US, China, France, United Kingdom, Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

Right.

SPEAKER_03 47:17

Right, but then North Korea, they're kind of like, no, you don't, dude, knock it off. You got nothing. Okay. So they were all. So here's the count as of 2025-26. Russia holds the largest stockpile with an estimated 4,309 to 5580 warheads. The United States has 3,700 to 5,000. China, about 600, France, about 290, UK, about 225, India has 180, Pakistan at 170, Israel at 90, uh, but they don't confirm or deny. And North Korea says they have 50 warheads. Yeah. So so the idea behind this prolifer this non-proliferation agreement is if you don't have them, you can't make them. All right. Iran did not agree to that. Okay. And there are other, and I think North Korea like pulled out of that too. They were like, no, we're not playing goal here. You know, and um, but those like that's a lot of fucking nukes. That's yeah, that's you know, one can do so much damage.

SPEAKER_02 48:24

Let's take a picture. Let's take a picture. Out of how many, how many countries have them?

SPEAKER_03 48:29

Nine right now.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Out of those nine countries, how many of those countries are US allies?

SPEAKER_03 48:35

Well, you have US, France, UK, uh, Israel for now, India, maybe, you know, and then really like the ones that are against us are Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea.

SPEAKER_02 48:55

Right, I mean China. You know, I think they can go either way.

SPEAKER_03 49:01

Well, right now China is behind Iran.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Okay, and so is Russia. Yeah. That's why it's so hard to keep track of all this shit. Right. Right. So you have the Strait of Hormuz right now, which basically Iran borders at the north. They have complete control of that area, right? So no one can get through, okay? And I guess a good amount of oil needs to go through there, and that's how you know the rest of us get it, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:35

Um, so you know, it's crazy to think, right? Because um, you know, the US always says that we have the most in reserve in the world.

SPEAKER_03 49:45

It's possible, but where where?

SPEAKER_02 49:47

Where do we keep it?

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Well, I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

Where are all these reserves?

SPEAKER_03 49:52

I don't know how that works. I just know that they they are kept somewhere. We have them, okay. But in the Strait of Hormuz, on the north is Iran, right? And on the south is uh the United Arab Emirates, okay, and Oman. All right. So it's very difficult, you know, because remember the UAE is not with Iran, it's on the other side. Yeah, right. They they're gonna work with the US and Israel. Iran is obviously not because they support Palestinians, you see, and so I I I was like, there's gonna be some sort of connection there. Oh, absolutely, yeah. And so, like, and I already told you, China and Russia are siding with Iran, they're not our friends, you know. So it's it it's so difficult to keep track of it, right? I mean so you know, and I hope my breakdown didn't confirm.

SPEAKER_02 50:47

Imagine where that's where um, you know, Russia and China, that's where um the warheads, they're not the warheads, but the missiles are being supplied to Iran from those two countries, I bet. Probably, yeah, yeah. You know, you know, just like we were giving them, you know, to uh the Ukraine to bomb Russia, you know.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

But the thing is, like, it's if you look at it, right? Israel wants to wipe out Palestinians, you know. I mean, they stole their land, basically, right?

SPEAKER_02 51:23

I mean, it was it was the British felt, you know, as the colonizers, they think they wanted, you know, but they could do that.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

People uh just want their property. Well, that's what they're doing right now, right?

SPEAKER_02 51:36

That's what Gaza Strip is. Well, that's what war is about.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

It's a it's an open-air prison, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

That's what you know, it's war.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

People die in more there's war and there's then there's genocide. Yeah, right. Like it's awful. Yeah, you know, and then and then to further they run a parallel, go after Iran, you know, for weapons of mass destruction that don't exist. I know, right? And so it it just goes deeper and deeper. Yeah, that's the thing. So that whole area is like Game of Thrones. It's a mess.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

It's very giant, it's a giant bowl of spaghetti.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

Like, I I I don't know if I explained it well. No, you did. But that's how everyone aligns, yeah. That's why it's as ugly as it's getting. And so people are like, Do you think it's gonna get better? Hell no, it's not gonna fucking get better. Yeah, this is gonna get worse. You know, and for for like our president in this country to be like, oh, I'm gonna do a military operation, Venezuela style, dumbfuck. Did you did you look at who's aligned with whom?

SPEAKER_02 52:43

You know, I I wonder what would happen. I wonder what the next move would be if the US was ever bombarded with missiles. You know, if any missiles were ever delivered to the mainland, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:00

Well, I mean, you know, this Iran is targeting, you know, the US bases, you know, they're targeting yeah, allies. You know what I'm saying? And and it's interesting because you remember how Trump was like, oh, now, first of all, the arrogant fucker is like, oh, we don't need your help. We got we're winning the war. We've already won. Apparently, we've already won the war, but he still wants more money from Congress. Yeah, right. Now you're gonna fucking ask Congress for help. Where you should have talked to them first before you decided to do this, you know, and then they probably would have been like, eh, you probably shouldn't do that. Like, probably maybe don't do that, and this is why, right? Because remember, Russia, China, Israel, you know, like Iran, like all these other people, you know, are kind of like aligned with like you know, different groups, like it's it's scattered, it's crazy, right? Now he wants help. Now he wants more money. I thought we won the war. Why the fuck do you need more money for? Why do you want to send more troops? What is going on? Okay, none of this makes sense, right? Okay, but the more I dug into it, I was like, wow, what a fucking mess. The whole thing is a fucking mess. You and I and I like I said, I had such a hard time trying to keep it all straight, you know. Yeah, like and I hope it doesn't sound like a mishmosh, but I I did my best, guys.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

It was like that when we went into Iraq, it was every you know that there was going on the same fucking scenario, yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

So yeah, that's uh that's all that fuckery that we unpacked, but I'm sure there's more to it. Right. So it goes levels and levels, but anyway, he wants more money. I hope he doesn't get it. Like he's pulling some shit, he's hiding stuff.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Who's the supreme leader these days out there?

SPEAKER_03 54:56

I forget who is.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

I'm somebody different every day.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

I'm losing track of all the players.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

Who wants to be the supreme leader? Who knows? No, but who wants to take the job? I mean, you know, you got a target on your back.

SPEAKER_03 55:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

You know, worst job ever, probably, right?

SPEAKER_03 55:12

What else was I gonna say? I was gonna say he wanted money, he wanted he's not getting it. Oh yeah, and then now he wants people's help and nobody wants to play. Right? So the UK got involved because now they're like, Yeah, you can use our bases. Of course you're gonna get hit on, right? You're gonna get missiles now. Because now you're getting involved, right? You either stay in or you get out, right? Frankly, we need to get out enough. Like you this this fuckery is it's too much. Yeah, you know, he's gonna have to swallow his pride, which he fucking won't. Well, people are suffering as a result, yeah, you know, and like I said, it's dominated the news, right? Because now, you know, we're not we're not um paying attention to things like ice at the airports. Oh my god. Right. Well, before that, they were in Vermont. Yeah, they were in Burlington, Vermont, pulling some Minneapolis-style horseshit.

SPEAKER_02 56:14

Look how quick Venezuela fizzled away.

SPEAKER_03 56:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

We were all over them.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

It's just one thing after another.

SPEAKER_02 56:21

Yeah. You know, it it was the let's just bring it back a bit. It was the drug boats, right? We were we you know, we were hitting the the drug boats, and uh and then we were um because they were doing drugs, taking drugs into the country, and then we wanted Venezuela for some reason to to give them a little bit of democracy, but we ended up stealing their oil. But are we still there? We what's going on in Venezuela? I don't know. I mean, that was only a couple months ago. I don't know. It's just one thing after another after another.

SPEAKER_03 56:56

That's just it. Like it's hard to keep up with those three. When and then the more you start to unpack, you know, it the more you get like, oh my god, like are we the bad guys? Yeah, yeah, really. Like, seriously. No, I know. Like, oh, it's yeah, like it's not a good look at all, right? You know, and I don't know how we're gonna recover from this. That's the other thing. Like, or if we're ever, no one's ever gonna trust us again. Right. The shit that that this country's pulled. Yeah, and this is where my lack of support for Israel lies, right? Because you're you know, you somehow convinced the president of the US to fight your war, to do your dirty work, you know, and our president's fucking crazy, right? Pulling some shit.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

No, he he wants to uh develop the strip.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

No, that's it's no that you know, this whole thing like he still wants to be a peacemaker. That's a fucking joke. Oh, please. What a fucking joke.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

Like, like what what what makes him think that uh whatever he's doing is makes him qualified to to be a peaceful person.

SPEAKER_03 58:06

He keeps telling people and everyone that will believe him, and they will believe him, that he settled eight wars. God. The fuck, man. Get out of here with this bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

He's a fucking legend in his whole mind. He really is, and that's what narcissism is. That's it. That's exactly what narcissism is.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

Yeah. But anyway, I think that was a heavy, heavy episode.

SPEAKER_02 58:28

Went down well. It flew by. I hope so, because that was a lot.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

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SPEAKER_02 58:44

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SPEAKER_03 58:52

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