Episode 10: This Episode Has No Business Existing

Recorded on Sunday, April 5, 2026.  

Anthony and I can talk! All. Day. Long. In this episode:  Is Easter a thing, really? Anthony's sciatica and other mysterious body stuff. Speaking of Iran.... Are MAGA folks less educated? DEI (IMHO).  Maxxing, Manosphere, Incels--oh my! Freedom of speech or hate speech?

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Music: Stick The Landing by Everet Almond

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hey, good morning, Carlos. Good afternoon. Good day, actually. Good. I know. My timeline's on. Sunday! Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Hey, you know, uh, it's Easter Sunday. And Passover. Can't pass over. Can't pass over Easter Passover. Yes, exactly. You know, I I didn't even get a chance to uh call my family today. I gotta give them a give them a buzz.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Well, welcome to the long way out. I'm Carlos.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

And I'm Anthony, the long way out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

So calling your family for Easter, is that a thing, really?

SPEAKER_02 0:47

It is, yeah. Why do you laugh? It is. No, I mean, you know, it's a it's a holiday that um, you know, growing up, it was a it was a big holiday. We would um, you know, my mom would cook up a storm, you know, if it could be stuffed mushrooms, stuffed peppers, stuffed artichokes, uh bread of asparagus, uh ham, uh Italian sauce, meatballs, uh stuffed shells or or homemade Medigatti. But yeah, Easter was the uh one day where, you know, growing up, everybody would get decked out, you know, all the kids, all the little girls would be in their Easter bonnets and their dresses, you know. Wow. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the way it was back then, you know. Which, you know, we're not only j the Italians, but uh you know, if you were Catholic, um that's that's the way it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

I mean, I grew up Catholic and you know, we did get dressed up for Easter and and I and as a kid I really didn't get into it, you know. Even though there were fun activities like the Easter egg hunt and stuff like that, you know. Um, but I I I don't know, I didn't get into it. But this morning at like I I left work at four this morning and at 5 30 across the street, the restaurant. Yeah, yeah. You were like, because I got a text message and you're like, oh, they're opening now. I'm like, it's 4 30 in the morning. What are you sure? Yeah, and you did call over there, yeah, kind of to be like, uh, did somebody break in?

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Yeah, well, you know, those of you don't know, we live right across the street from uh a restaurant. Can I say the name?

SPEAKER_00 2:32

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yeah, La Copa. And the owner is uh is Jose. And uh I just happened to look out the window and I noticed that uh all the lights are on in the restaurant. And uh, you know, people were heading in there. Um, you know, he had an early party set up, I guess. You know, he normally opens up at nine.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

I know. We watched people come in and drove this morning. The sun wasn't even up yet. It was rainy and gross.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Yeah, little little kids, like, you know, uh, there was one dad carrying his carrying his little girl and she was still asleep. Wow. I was like, yeah, it was four in the morning, four thirty or so.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Oh, about this, yeah, like five. I was like, what the hell? Yeah, that's dedication though, to like open your restaurant for a large group like that. Yeah. No, man, I'm sorry. I I would rather, I don't know, is there a waterboarding option? Because that sucks.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

You know, that's that's his living, that's his livelihood, that's his bank role.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

I suppose that's part of the hustle, right? Yeah. So what's going on with you? Uh there's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Your sciatica stuff killing you. Yeah, you know, I had a MRI a couple of weeks ago, and um I got called in for a uh a consult with uh with the surgeon. They found, you know, my sciatica has been lingering what since early January. Yeah. You know, and really like uh really it disables me. Like I can't get out of bed in the morning until I start to move it. It takes me a couple of hours to get acclimated and to get moving, and there's there's a lot of pain, like I want to cry. But anyways, they found a cyst uh on my O1 or um, you know, down there somewhere. And um, you know, I I went in Thursday for the consult, and he says, Okay, well, we'll come we'll uh we'll you know, we we discussed it and we decided on surgery. And he says, uh, you know, after after the consult, you know, I was with him for about uh 40 minutes or so. He um and he says, Okay, we'll we'll s we'll uh we'll call you. We'll the front desk will call you for a time. And um they call me back the next day. You know, I thought it was gonna be somewhere in June or July, doesn't it? I was like, damn. But it's like you know, four days, you know, four days later.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

They call me back nine in the morning the next day. Uh, you know, are you okay going in this Wednesday? I said, Yeah, sure, definitely get rid of this pain, you know. Damn, just get it over with. Yeah, I think the doctor realized uh, you know, when I was talking with him that, you know, the pain is excruciating. I can't can't go on another, you know, a couple of months like this.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

That's torture. It sounds like he totally understood what you were going through, too. Yeah. Yeah. And he's done thousands of things. Yeah, so he says, yeah. You know. Well, I believe it. I mean, he's been around a while.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

It's not a major, you know, whenever they go into your spine, you know, that's Yeah, I don't like the idea of that. No, I hear you. But um he's done he's done many of them. And you know, I did ask him, I said, Doc, if I was an athlete, would this be a career-ending injury? And he said, No, not at all. Not at all. He says, but then again, you know, kids that are 23 and 24 don't have They don't have this problem. Yeah. They don't have this, you know, that they don't have your spine.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Yeah, that's worse.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

But it was good to think that um, you know, in other words, if there was a pro out there that had to get this done, he'd still be able to play.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Okay. So that's a good sign. Yeah. And he said you can go home right after that surgery, which is really reassuring. Oh my god, yeah. I know. So hopefully, fingers crossed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

You know, I d I just hope that, you know, I had a knee replaced uh May of 2024. And um, you know, the pain from the sciatica goes down to my knee. So I don't know if you know, if it it's a correl correlation, you know, like I'm sure there is. Yeah. Um I'm just hoping that, you know, there's two different uh there's one thing, it's you know, that it's the sciatica and not my knee causing the sciatica. Yeah. You know, but there is a cyst in my spine that has to be and it's possible, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Because, you know, and at the end of the day, that doesn't belong there. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

It's taking space. Yep. It's only gonna probably grow you know bigger, maybe spread to you know, the up up my spine. But anyhow, yeah, Wednesday, I don't know what time yet, but uh I'll be out of work for about six weeks.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Are you nervous?

SPEAKER_02 7:16

I am. I'm yeah. You know, it's not like you know, if they were doing an elbow or a shoulder or a hip, but I know it's your fucking spine.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

That's that's what's like really scary. Yeah, like all the things that could happen.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Um, one of the one of my coworkers yesterday, speaking of the spine, and I didn't know this was a thing, but she's also she started teaching clinical for uh students, right? So she's also a clinical teacher now. And she teaches anyway. I mean, she's brilliant, this woman who works for rapid response where I'm at at the hospital. And she was telling me, like, she's on a spine unit where there's like, you know, um people who have lost control of their extremities, you know, quadriplegics, paraplegics, that sort of thing. And she was like, there's a 24-year-old woman there that is quadriplegic because she was in Nicaragua um surfing. And you know, while she was there, she accidentally stepped on a stingray. And then like the following, like, l or later in that day, she started to get symptoms.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

You know, um, she started to like I guess lose, she started to get numb, started to get weak in her legs and her arms, and then immediately flew back home. And then the assumption was, oh, did you get some neurotoxin from your, you know, touching the stingray by mistake, like because you stepped on it, you slept on it, right? I guess she was negative with everything. Okay, and so they were like, What the fuck is this? So I guess they do an MRI and they found that she had like a spinal stroke. From the No, no, had nothing to do with the stingray because there was no toxins in her body that they can track. But they did find like there was an infarct in her spine. An infarct usually is like um where blood doesn't flow in and doesn't deliver oxygen and nutrients to that part of the spine, so this shit fucking died, and that's how she lost the control of her arms and legs. And you know what it was from? It was from her lying flat on the surfboard, and you know how like surfers lie on the surfboard to paddle out into the water? Yeah, it's from doing that, and it's an actual thing, it's a rare occurrence, it's like a fucking surfer's injury.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

Oh my god, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:52

24 years old. Horrible.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

And I was like, is that a fucking thing? And it really is a thing, and it's crazy that the stingray didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

The stingray had nothing to do with it, and that was my assumption and everybody else's assumption, right? That you caught some fucking crazy neurotoxin that we need to find. And it had nothing to do with it. It was because of that position on the surfboard, and you're paddling out all the time that if you hold that position long enough or or or just in the wrong way for just a moment, you could stop blood flow to that part of your fucking spine, and then your spinal cord doesn't get fed any oxygen, and then it starts to die.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

Oh my god. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 10:37

Yeah, it's called a surface injury. Surface injury, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 10:44

And I was like digging into it because I I she was telling me other things, but I couldn't stop thinking about this 24-year-old woman who, you know, was like, oh, I'm just gonna go surfing, you know, super active. She was competitive in other sports, and then this just because she wanted to try surfing. So so she got she she she had a stroke. No, but like her spine did. Like, so it's kind of like a stroke, yeah. Because it's because basically, like it was the nerve got pinched off, or the circulation to that nerve got pinched off, and it made me think about like freaky things like oh shit, like, should I not do like the cobra pose for yoga for too long or the push it too hard?

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Like some of my stretches, you know, like for the sciatica.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

God, I know like I wanted to talk about it this morning when I got home, but I was so fucking tired that I was like, Yeah, Anthony, don't do that for too long because there's this 24-year-old woman that has gave herself a fucking spinal stroke or something. Yeah, like I didn't know that was a fucking thing, but the human body is a mystery. Oh, it really is, you know.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah, yeah, it really is a mystery because you know, I said to myself, how can I be in this much pain? I did nothing to cause it. You know, I didn't bump my spine, and you know, uh I'm not I'm not heavy. Um, you know, just I I didn't do anything to aggravate, I didn't do anything at all to aggravate it. But the pain that comes along with it, yeah, you know, it's just it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

I've seen you like I think you fell at one point, and I was like, great, now you're a followerisk, and now I have to watch you. I was like, I'm gonna get you a walker now.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

I I got up and my knee was just like, you know, the nerves or whatever, just you know, my my I just fell. My uh my leg gave out, my bad knee.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Yeah, that's when we were like, okay, enough. You need to go to the doctor now. Enough of this, you know, doing it conservatively because yeah, it's not working. Oh my god. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

What's going on? What's going on with uh the orange band these days? Oh, I know I don't know. We should Well, you know something? Yeah. Uh you know, it it uh yesterday I guess they uh they found they found the uh the second pilot.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Oh wow over in Iran. Oh that was this morning? Oh, I don't remember. My days are all fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

It's amazing that we got them out of there.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

So I didn't know there were two pilots. I had to look that up. I guess they found the first one immediately.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Yeah, they were side by side, you know. But it's weird how they end up in like different locations.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Well, I mean, if you're getting ejected out of a plane that's going really fast.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Yeah, I and not only that, if they did land together, I think they're trained to split up for some reason or other.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Maybe because that way you're not colliding in midair and killing each other, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

No, no, no. But if they hit the ground, hit the ground running, you know, and they're able to move or whatever, and and they're in enemy territory, they're trained to separate, not to stay together. Like you go your way, I'll go my out for whatever reason. I don't know why. But I did hear that that they're trained to to separate.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Maybe the logic behind that is so that way your enemy doesn't just go to one place where you both are. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Wow, that's and they said one of the ways that you know uh early on, or you know, with a few hours ago, uh they were saying that, you know, they didn't find them, but they were saying that they found him. Um, you know, the America was saying that we did find them so that uh uh the Ira the Iranian troops they would call up the troops looking for him so that you know we can continue on. But it's it took on uh you know to get that one guy out of there. Um hundreds of people, you know, a lot of you know, Black Hawk helicopters and jet fighters and yeah, um, you know, the elite to the uh SEAL team six and no, I'm happy that they use the resources to save lives.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Okay, however, you know, I feel validated because when I was saying things before, like, I don't understand why we're doing this war. I'm still confused. Uh other people who know a lot more than me are equally as confused. Yeah, right. People who actually study this shit and do it for a living to report it, to like research it.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

Well, like you know, the the original thought everybody at the beginning of the war was saying that it was a uh a decoy for the Epstein files. Absolutely, because the timing subject, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

The timing is crazy, right? Well, not crazy, it was intentional, yeah. Right? But no, we I I don't like that we're there, right? You can go everybody knows how I feel. Like I this is wrong, you know. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. Right, and then what pissed me off more was his announcement on on X, how like, oh, we'll never leave anyone behind. Fuck you, dude. Don't put people there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why why are you risking these live sports? Stop, you know, enough of this.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

You know, you know, I I remember um you know, back in the day when they took uh the embassy hostage, and that's how Nightline started. You know that show Nightline on TV? It's it started off Nightline.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Was that in the late 70s?

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Was that like uh yeah 79, 79, yeah? But that's how Nightline started because they would they were get they were um you know, everybody was captivated um with that news story. Yeah, you know, and everybody would stay up at night and watch Nightline. It was like day one, nightline, day two, you know. Oh yeah. And then it turned into uh it they just kept it on. But um, you know, they held the the Americans hostage over there for nearly a year.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Or over a year. I think it was like 433 days.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Yeah, but it did I think like uh uh the day off or the couple of days after Ronald Reagan got in very shortly after they released him. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well Jimmy Carter, you know, he didn't do much about it. But I remember back then, um, you know, they would show the footage, the news with, you know, the debt to America, you know? And like the viciousness and how they were burning everything and you know, you they were watching like every night you were watching them burn the American flag, and they I was like, Wow, these people hate us over there, you know. Oh yeah, they do. And then it just continued on, you know, uh with with the hatred towards America. But is it it's not a reason. I mean, you know, just because you don't like somebody doesn't mean you gotta go fucking blow them up.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's there's okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

So we get we got a lot of enemies, you know. We can't go fucking blowing up every country.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Yeah, yeah, but we do that to ourselves. We destabilize countries all that part of the time.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Oh yeah. Venezuela, we just did Venezuela, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

And we wonder why people are running away from their countries and trying to come into ours, right? Because this is what you're doing, yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_02 18:00

We wreck your country, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's not cool. No, not at all. But um, speaking of Iran, like I watched this documentary yesterday, I think and I was kind of blown away because looking at footage before that whole seven 1979 change in the regime, so to speak, like the photos and the the uh footage, yeah, I'm like, wow, it was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Oh yeah, it was it it was a uh metropolitan area, it was beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

Yeah. And then women were not forced into the hijab, they were they seemed to be very active. A lot of them participated in education, you know, and work, you know, and it looked like a good life. Oh yeah, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:46

E even like the communities were beautiful. I mean, you know, you think of uh you think of Iran and you think of uh like cement shacks everywhere, you know, but very updated, you know, very very metropolis, and uh, you know, just you know real uh stores that you would see um you know in the west, you know, were we on on the uh their main avenues and stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Yeah, beautiful, beautiful. That's the beautiful buildings and I didn't understand like this. So I guess who was who was the monarch at the time?

SPEAKER_02 19:25

I remember it started off with the Shah of Iran. Okay. So that was a m it was a monarch. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, he came in, he's the one who I think started all the bullshit, you know, and then it was the I uh Ayatollah Khomeini, you know, the and not the one that they that they uh recently killed.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Yeah, you know, one before that. The one before him, yeah. Well that's what I was trying to understand. We're watching the because it came up on my YouTube feed and I was like, oh, let me see what this is about, you know. And um it was a very different thing, right? There was a monarch at the time who looked fashionable with his wife and his photo on a Honda motorbike, you know, and um and then that he it was 1979 when the Ayatollah came through. But that's what I don't that's what I don't understand. Like I guess people were you know um I guess convinced that the way that they were living before right in like the 70s was the wrong thing, right? That wasn't Muslim at all. And so now you we are where we are now with Iran, right? Like they now are controlled by their faith, their you know, that sort of thing. And this is my problem with like when you combine your religion with your state, like those things should be kept separate.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

Right. I think the people of Iran, um, I think they want democracy. Absolutely. I think they want democracy. I get that impression.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

I get that impression as well.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

Yeah. But you know, living in fear, you know, they they instill the fear into the into the people that uh, you know, if you show democracy in any sort of way, you're gonna take a bullet to the head. So that's why you're not seeing, you know, crowds in the street, because they'll just come by and machine gun you know, a couple of thousand people.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

Well, this documentary that we were watching that I happened to put on, and we were both like, oh, there was a woman, I don't know if I think she was European or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Do you remember the name of the documentary? I forget. But like it was just an hour. Yeah. Um at some point in the show, we gotta we gotta let the people know.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Yeah. Um, but it was from last year. Yeah. It was a year ago, maybe a little over a year ago. Yeah, right. And she landed and she was afraid because you know, there are certain rules there for women. Right, like you have to wear the hijab, you have to cover your hair. But I guess for as a foreigner, she didn't have to have to do that. But you also saw that there were some women that didn't do that. Yeah. You know? Um, I guess uh there was like an outrage from a woman who who was beaten by police not too long ago because she wore her hijab incorrectly and there were protests because of that. Yeah, I mean you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like she died, that woman, you know.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Um yeah, like uh, you know, if you do something like that, uh they stone you.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

It's wild, you know. But the thing is, they still have like things. I remember she went to go to a tattoo artist. Right? There was a tattoo artist, and I think the rules are that you have to your artist needs to be the same gender as you. Like you could like I couldn't go to a female tattoo artist there, I have to go to a male, right? And also like tattoos are frowned upon there, but people have them out there.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

And remember the woman that she interviewed, she was like, Oh, you know, like for you to get a driver's license here, they make you strip down to see if you have tattoos. And if you have tattoos, you're gonna get psych water. You have to go to a psyche valve before you could be cleared for a tat for a driver's license for one to two years max. I was like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Oh my god, that's fucking nutty.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Yeah, I mean, I don't agree with what's going on over there, yeah, but then again, like if you think about it, it's happening here with Christianity, right? How they're using Christianity in the government to kind of sway the masses, yeah, you know, saying that we're so Christian, this is the way it should be, you know, that's why women have lost their right to abortions, right, in some places. And they're gonna start to lose their rights now, yeah, right? Because look at how they treat women over there. It's coming for us here. And that's what's scary. You know, that's what that's the thing that I have um issue with, you know. And then another thing that we talked about this past week, because you were you I don't know why you asked this question, but you were like, are MAGA people just less educated? And I was like, What? I was like, that's kind of a loaded question.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

When you watch TV, you know, and they show the the Trumpers, they s they always to me for me, they always appear to be trailer trash, you know, uh pig uh an old uh truck, uh, you know, um no teeth, uh not dressed in in good clothes, like you know, just crazy graphics on their shirt. Like they they they just look like fucking idiots. Yeah, you know? Yeah. I don't think that's what the case is though.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

I guess you could say that for boatways. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Well, yeah, like I just it's that's a loaded question because I dove a little bit into that question because I was like, how do I how do I answer this question? I have no idea. And so I know from like my opinion being that no, they're you know, it's a diverse lot of people. You really can't make that assumption. I don't think that's fair, you know. And I thought about that and how like things like DEI, yeah, right. You remember DEI, right? How uh diversity, um equity, inclusion, you see, I forgot what it meant too. Um, but I think that had something that's kind of tied in there somehow. Yeah, okay. And when when you make that statement, it makes me think like, okay, there's a reason why this group of people is angry.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

All right. So just to just to highlight what I dove into a little bit, okay. So MAGA supporters on average, um, they're less likely to hold a college degree compared to other groups, which is true, right? Uh a few studies, you know, they say 24 to 30 percent have a college degree or higher, all right. Um, but at the same time, in my opinion, not everybody needs to go to college to be successful. Okay. Because there's a bunch of trades out there where people are making a killing.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

When I have to call for the HVAC, that shit is not cheap. If I have to get an electrician, holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

All right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, trades are where where it's at, man. You know, yeah. So they're still highly skilled people in the workforce. Okay, they still make decent money, right? All right. And they never went to college.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

And that's a gap.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

But college education is not for everyone. Right. Right? Yeah. And at the same time, and this is where my DEI thing connection comes in, you know. Was it always available to them? You know, it probably wasn't. All right. Like if you're in rural America, you're not gonna have the same access. And that's not fair.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

You know, and that's why like people are mad, they're marginalized, they're like, they feel forgotten, and they're gonna be mad. Yeah, okay. Now, the other part of this is that you know, most of MAGA, you know, are also I guess the demographic is that they're mostly white, Christian, and male. And it's about 60%. Okay, not a bad thing, okay. But what's bad about it, and they probably agree, getting rid of DEI is because DEI wasn't helping them. Yeah, right. So we forgot, you know. And in my opinion, you know, DEI should have been more about raise rising, you know, raising people up, yeah. Okay, rather than putting another group down. Yeah, okay. And this is my beef with a lot of you know, groups, religion, otherwise, okay. Like, you know, oop, sounds of the city, you hear that?

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Security.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Call security. Jeez, this is so annoying. Oh, it's gone.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

That call security off. Anyway, you know, uh DEI that came, you know, they started to like really come out with that after Black Lives Matter. It's it seems like right around that area, you know. Um, and I'm I lost my train of thought what I wanted to say about that. And if well, if I if I remember, we'll get back to it. Okay. So go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

But what I was saying was that I think it's connected because um, you know, you forgot about this group, right? This group got forgotten, you know, you're not including them. And then just like with other groups, right? Like this is my issue with Israel, you know, and I say that it's they're causing genocide, they're conducting a genocide against Palestinians. Like, the shit happened to you. Right. Like, why did you forget? Is your memory that short? Yeah, and now here you are, you're turning it around onto another group, right? Yeah, same thing with DEI, yeah, right? You know, I'm a person of color, I'm gay, right? I've got a lot of straight white friends. I'm not gonna like, you know, you're a white dude, right? Right? Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Like, yeah, the the um the DEI and the Black Lives Matter, you know, the it started off with Black Lives Matter, and then it started to evolve around like everybody matted, you know, and and and then DEI came out to make it, you know, it all it all like came together through the from what I see the the black lives you get you get what I'm trying to say here.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

Are you saying that um as a result of that people got together? Yeah, yeah, started to pay more attention to the marginalized communities.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Yep, and then yeah, and then it it was like a spin-off, like it was a spin-off in some sort of way.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

I mean, there's a reason why it exists, okay? Because, you know, like I I've made this comment before about the way systems and institutions are in this country and many other countries, is that uh the systems are kind of built by a certain group for a certain group. And I wasn't joking about that because I do I do see that, right? I do feel that I have to work harder and I have to work more to prove myself. Yep, right. Um, I had this conversation with a nurse yesterday, a black nurse. She's super smart, she knows her shit, you know, but she stays quiet a lot because she doesn't want any trouble, you know? And and it's sad because, you know, I reminded her, I was like, you have a voice too. You really know what you're talking about when I am teaching and you know, at the bedside and answering these questions. Like, you know, and then she said to me, No one's ever had that conversation with me here. Yeah, yeah. I'm afraid to talk about it. And I was like, No, no, no, no, you do not be afraid because you obviously put the work and the time in. All right. Yeah, and I say this to my students of color, you know, and most of them are women, and I'm like, I'm sorry, but this is how the world is, and you do have to work harder, right? You know, you are a woman, that and that unfortunately, and it's not fair that it works against you, right? Because at the end of the day, if you look at it, a lot of women who are doing the same jobs as men are getting paid less. Yeah still. I don't I don't get that.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

I don't get that either, you know, especially like athletes, you know, like um you know, in basketball, for instance, you know, uh an elite basketball star can sign a hundred million dollar contract, you know, yeah. And you know, the women's basketball league, the elite woman, you know, uh the k king of the hill in in that sport, you uh doesn't even make like a quarter of that.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Or the queen of the hill, yeah, yeah. But that's crazy, but this is the crazy misogyny that goes on all the time, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:20

And it goes on everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Corporate, yeah, yeah, sports, yeah, right, and nursing, even, yeah, you know. But having these conversations, I think and politics, yes. Politics. I mean, I know you didn't love Kamala Harris, but you know, but come on, guys. Yeah, yeah, I know. Like, I mean, who's to say? Like, we don't know, we can't predict the future or see, right? You know, unfortunately things are happening the way they are now.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

And you know, I could say, oh, I didn't vote for him, but yeah. At the same time, you know, when it was happening, I was silent. Right. You know, my my bad, I fucked up. Yeah. Right. And a lot of us have to own it. Sorry. That's just how it is. Anyway, back to that topic. So I'm not going to make the assumption that MAGA are less educated. I've seen plenty of MAGA people who are intelligent and gifted. You know, it's unfortunate that they've taken this turn. And again, because uh I blame DEI for this. Like, you know, now we're making your life harder, we're diminishing your voice too. Right. When it when it should have been about raising everybody together at the same time. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And that's that's a big fuck up there. Yeah. All right. Another thing that came to my attention this week was um the manosphere.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

Oh my god. Take a hammer to your chin.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

What the fuck, right? I Christ. When I showed you that, you're like, is this a is this is this real? God. I mean, it was real enough that Saturday Night Live made fun of it a couple weeks ago, right? And I think that was because of what's his name? Clavicular is this kid's name. Oh my god. It's like 20 years old, 21.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

You know, it's weird when I think about it, right? With the manosphere. Um, like I'm I'm on Facebook, you know, and I have uh, I don't know, four or five hundred friends, you know, that I know, some I don't know. Um, but there's a couple of guys that I know, and I think they may be in that category. Um, because they don't have a girlfriend. They're they're always at the gym, right? Always at the gym, and they're doing selfies of themselves, you know, like showing their muscles and then putting it on Facebook, like not saying anything, you know, just like who the fuck are you?

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Like I I can't. This is why I hate the gym now.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

It's like it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Yeah, I hate going to the gym when that started.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

You know, but that's I I think there's a lot of manisped menzo. What do you call them?

SPEAKER_00 35:01

I you know, I I don't know because there's so many things attached to that. Yeah, the maxing, right? Like the maxing, right? So clavicular, the one that I named, right? I think his name is Braden something. I don't know. But anyway, he's only 20. Yeah, he got arrested too, right? Recently, because he was shooting up an alligator at a national park in Florida, right? But this kid, you know, he is into he's looks maxing, is what they call it, right? So there's all forms of maxing, and I think that's like like uh adjacent to the manosphere. I don't think it's in inside the manosphere, really. Yeah, you know, that's where I was trying to like freaking try to follow this stuff. But my students, you know, a lot of them are obviously younger, 20 years younger, you know, 25 years younger. Some are like my age, you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Um so this kid, right? Yeah, you're telling me like that. He smashes his chin or his cheek to so his bones heal better or reconstruct.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Does it with a hammer? Insane. So you like kind of break your bones so they grow differently, so they can reshape your face. Yeah, this stuff is harmful, man. It's crazy. That's sick, you know? But like there's all these other maxing types, you know, that I was trying to understand because my students were explaining it to me. They're like, Yeah, there's like soft maxing, there's hard maxing, there's blue pill, red pill, like from the matrix. They're like, Yes. And I'm like, but that was like before your time. Like, how would you know about that? You know, and I and as much as I was like shitting on Gen Z last episode, like I didn't mean to do it that way, you know, because I see how they are, and I'm kind of like, okay, I don't understand you, but at the same time, I have an appreciation for them because I really think they're gonna save us from this bullshit. Yeah, they really do. Um, because I hope so. Because like they won't stand for some bullshit, you know, like we do. Like your generation does in my generation. Like we put up with some shit. Right, you know, like one of our one of our coworkers is Gen Z or the oldest of Gen Z at 30, you know, and she reminds us of like, oh, at this job, you know, when I accepted this position, we didn't have to work weekends and holidays as as nurses, and now all of a sudden we're required to do it. Why the fuck did this happen? And she's like, and we work nights and we should get a differential, even though we're salaried. She's like, I will die on that fucking hill. And she's completely right. Yeah, I'm like, why are we doing this? And no, I'm not working another Christmas holiday ever again. Yeah, right. That's why I took this job, so I didn't have to be like deal with that shit, you know. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna follow you. You are absolutely in the right. But anyway, back to the maxing.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

So looks maxing is what clavicular does, right? With chiseling his face, right? And they're into physics maximizing their physical attractiveness, yeah. And that's divided into soft maxing, which is the non-permanent changes, and these are people who use like you know, skincare routines, makeup, fashion, hair care, whitening their teeth. Yeah, and then Botox is that part of that? Uh that could be, but I think that might be closer to hard maxing, yeah, because these are permanent or extreme methods, uh, that's such as come cosmetic changes, like jaw fillers, okay, yeah, jaw reduction, uh dental work, yeah, or that controversial practice that we were just talking about, bone smashing. Yeah. Okay, please do not take a fucking hammer to your face, guys. That's stupid. That's just not good, you know? Dang. Like there's no guarantee that your bone is gonna grow back the way you want it to.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

If you do, if you're gonna go that route, use a fucking rubber mallet. No, don't do it at all. I'm just saying, if you're gonna do it, fucking use a rubber mallet, man. No, it's not almighty.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

So all these other ones, personality maxing, you know, for like social skills, charisma, empathy, getting those things up. Yeah, and then you can use your imagination, guys. Money maxing, smell maxing, comfy maxing, sleep maxing. There's just too many fucking maxings to follow. Right. It's it's so crazy. But the thing that gets me is that this guy is teaching people dangerous things, you know, and he has a lot of followers. Wow. Okay, he has a lot of followers, and a lot of them are you're gonna be kids, teenagers. Yeah, and they're like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna do that. And you know, they're still impressionable, so that's scary.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Like, I don't this is not good. Okay, this is not a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

And so how that's connected to flip out their parents, man.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Like, you know, you your kid is hitting himself with a hammer, but I guess that's why social media in some countries, you know, they're trying to thinking about cutting them off until they're 16, right? Right, until they're old enough to kind of put it together.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

I think they do that in Australia already. Yeah, 15 years old.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

There's a reason for it because it's dangerous now. Yeah, like I couldn't, I I couldn't not imagine. Well, first of all, I can't imagine being a parent because I'm not one, I've never been one, but being a parent now and having a teenager now is like would be insane. Yeah, right, would be insanity because how do you keep up with this craziness? Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_02 40:29

I would want to bring a kid into the world today. I really wouldn't. Yeah. Especially like in America.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

We are not the greatest country in the world.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Oh no, we've we've fallen pretty badly.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Like we used to be.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

Oh, I'm not gonna give up on us though. I can't, I just I I have hope for us. It's impossible. But but that manosphere documentary, like that that to me, it's they beat women too, right? Like in Well, this is where I was digging in a little bit because first of all, the the whole manosphere, right? There's these influencers, okay. I can't name them right now, um, but I could see their faces and their beliefs, you know, how like basically women are property. Yeah, you know. Um, there was one guy that had like uh two children and he's with a woman, but he's allowed to have affairs, and like, you know, and I guess they're allowed to do that, but the women they can't even talk to other men, yeah, right, or they demean them, you know, they make fun of them. Yeah, like I remember there was one scene where uh one of them had women on his podcast, and he was like, You're a fat fucking bitch, get out of my fucking like studio. Like, wow, it was wild, you know.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

And they and and the women go along with it. Some of them do, they go along with it.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

It's nutty, but you see, this is why I'm saying like this is going out there, these ideas are going out there, yeah. And young people, impressionable people are gonna think that this is how things are, right? Right, you know, that's what's frightening about this whole thing, yeah, right. And as I dug a little more, and I didn't dig too deep because remember, I'm kind of lazy about digging well because I don't have a lot of time, you know. But this is like part of that that whole incel culture. Remember what I talked about the incel culture and it sounds for um what is incel? Um they are um shit, what does it stand for? Incel culture involuntarily celibate. So it's incel. Yeah, right. So this is an online culture, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:49

Celibate with females. Now, some of them go go with guys.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Well, okay, we'll get to that because one of my one of my students was telling me this, and I was like, what? But it but incel is romance that incel is the involuntary celibate, right? Yes, and that's what it's weird about that whole uh manosphere. They have romances with each other, it looks like it's bizarre. I don't get it. Just be gay, it's easier, you know.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

Well, she come out of nowhere too.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

I know, right? It's like so. This incel culture, and I did see a documentary on it years ago during the pandemic, and I was like, oh, maybe this has something to do with the pandemic.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Was it called Manosphere then?

SPEAKER_00 43:31

No, it's called something about incels, the secret lives of incels. Wow, and so basically, this is like a male supremacist culture, and they have this uh deep misogyny, you know, they feel like they're entitled to sex, um, but they hate women. They resent women, um, because I guess they blame them for getting rejected. And I mean, come on, and the thing is. Rejection is part of life, guys. Right? Like, this is craziness.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

You're gonna reject this, like you know, the two fingers pointing at you and then back at him. You are gonna reject me. Like, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

So they have this nihilistic worldview, and this is where the color pills come in, right? This is the black pill philosophy, right? That everything sucks, and you know, incels believe their lack of romantic success is entirely due to predetermined physical flaws. All right, cool. So they often subscribe to the 80-20 rule, believing 80% of women only desire the top 20% of men, which they refer to as Chads. It's the fucking whole thing. I don't, you know, I don't believe it's it's just so much shit. I'm like, really? This is bananas. It's a society within society, it's sick. And no, so a lot of these forums, I guess, were on 4chan and on Discord, right? Uh, maybe in Reddit, you know. I haven't seen them because I'm not looking for them. Okay. But other terminology, along with black pill and Chad, which we just learned, there's also the Stacy's, right? Which is the idealized attractive woman who rejects lower tier men. So basically, these insults get rejected by Stacies. And then you have the Beckys, which are the average women who they still think are out of reach to them, and they're just average. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, this is this is crazy, you know. Um, but it's it's it's a lot, and I I I couldn't watch that documentary in one sitting. Do you remember? I was like, okay, I've had enough. I need to stop, but I need to finish it because I need to understand what the fuck is going on.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

I want to watch more of that with you too.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

It's just too much. So I don't, yeah, this whole maxing culture and the things that they're telling you to do, not good. It's not looking good for us, you know. And a lot of the things leading the way they are and a lot of the things that they're saying, you know, are quite hateful, aren't they? Oh yeah. Right? Towards women, especially, you know, and a lot of these, you know, I guess they kind of branch out into like people like Nick Fuentes, you know, who said that if I if I'm don't quote me exactly, but I think I heard from somewhere that he said that women are three things they're mothers, nuns, or whores.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

Well, actually four things. Like they could be a Karen too.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Well, Karen's could be any of them. That's too bad that that name got bastardized the way it did, you know. I forget what the male Karen's would be, but I try not to I try not to say that because I know plenty of women named Karen who are really nice and they're like, what the fuck, man? It's not my fault. I didn't do it. Weird. Yeah, it is Karen. It is pretty weird, but I try not to use that term because it's it's rude to the people who are actually named Karen who are not fucking assholes, right? Um, but there's a lot of hate speech as a result of it. And like, and that made me dive into hate speech. Okay. Would you I mean what's your opinion on that? Do you think that there are first of all, should I I should ask you this? Do you think there are laws against it in this country? Against hate speech? Yeah. No, there's not. Yeah. There's not. Yeah, and that's all. Freedom of speech. There's there it is. Yeah. You see? And what did mama used to say when we were growing up about when you have nothing to say nice about it?

SPEAKER_02 47:51

My father used to say, if you got nothing good to say about somebody, don't say anything at all.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. Like keep that shit to yourself. Yeah. Right? And so it's not illegal in this country, from what I read. And I was kind of shocked. I was like, so nothing that you say can be illegal. You know, even if it's saluting Nazis and things like that. Yeah, you know. Um, because I remember when I was growing up, well, I spent like five like five years in Germany growing up, that was military, you know. Um, you couldn't make statements about Nazis and things like that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Yeah, you know what's weird though? Like if you were in court, right, and um you were the the uh defendant and you were telling the the judge to go fuck himself, you know?

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 48:45

Freedom of speech.

unknown 48:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

But he can hold you in contempt.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Yeah, because you're disrupting the court, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:53

Well, it's just words. I mean, you know, what are you disrupting? You're just talking.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

Well, you're you're causing issues in the court. You're like you're like, I guess that tosses that sort of dissent could get people. Yeah. You know? I I think oof, I do believe in the freedom of speech, but I I also feel that the hateful things have some sort of regulation.

SPEAKER_02 49:24

If if they if they break that down and they do have laws against hateful speech, or there's gonna be it's gonna be crazy because there's gonna be so many things that you can't say in public. It'll get carried away like everything else, you know? Well, I mean, do you remember they might as well just lift the freedom of speech. If if they're gonna if they're gonna like make make a law that you can't say a certain thing, just get rid of the whole fucking thing.

SPEAKER_00 49:54

I mean, we can't, it's in our constitution.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

Yeah, and that's what it's almost impossible to switch over.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

You're right. You're right. But interesting that, you know, 45% of countries, you know, around the world have specific hate speech laws. It's just the US, and that's because of the First Amendment, okay? And unless it incites like lawless action, that's where the issue lies. And that's and I think that's something hard to prove, right? Right? Because someone could say something online and someone who heard it could act on it, but it's gonna be difficult to prove that that lawless action was committed because of what they heard, right? You don't know what other psychology or trauma this person suffered, right? Like, you know, I like if someone were to say something about shoot up a school because these type of people should die, right? You you don't know what's going on with that shooter's mind until you get to them. Yeah, you know, that's and that to me is that's why like I feel like some regulation should be done.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

Because what so you think you know, if you say something, you think uh it will be a fine, or would you go to jail? Um how can you regulate something? I have no idea, and that's a thing.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Because you know, countries like Germany, France, and the UK, they have laws against hate speech. Yeah, okay. And this includes things like prohibitions on the Holocaust denial, right? Right, for example, um, and hate speech at sporting events, okay, because they're big on their soccer, their football, they call it over there, right? Um, but they I mean, even though they have equal, like I guess, rights to, you know, to say, you know, to express whatever, like I I think that has a lot to do with for them, you know. For example, I hate keeping coming up with like the Holocaust and Nazis, but because that happened to them, you know, during that era, yeah, maybe that's what influenced their laws, right? We're not we don't have that problem. We never had that problem. Yeah, you know. Um, might we have it one day? Probably the way things are looking.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Well, you know, I I think you know, over there they had uh, you know, the the Holocaust with the Nazis. Over here, I think the closest thing that we would get to that would be like the slavery and involving black people that you can't say anything negatory about that, you know, like just but you shouldn't either.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

Of course, right? And you shouldn't deny that it didn't happen. Right. Right? Because it slavery did fucking happen. You need to own that, you know. That's uh that's part of our shameful history.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

I'm sorry, Your Honor. I didn't mean to say that.

unknown 52:44

You know?

SPEAKER_02 52:45

How would that get in Germany?

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Yeah, I just found that that was interesting. That wow, we really don't have any laws, but you're right. How would you how would you prosecute someone? Yeah, you know, and people are protected. But it's crazy because you have those websites like X that Elon Musk took over, right? That you know, you you literally can say anything you want to fucking say and not suffer any consequences. And there should be consequences, yeah, right? Don't be surprised when someone sees you on the street and you get you get assaulted like for something that you said.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Yeah. When I get a chance, I'm gonna Google um, you know, what are some of the things that can get you in trouble uh in Germany?

SPEAKER_00 53:28

But you know, uh, yeah, doing like uh like doing a Nazi salute you can get arrested for.

SPEAKER_02 53:34

Yeah, I know that. Yeah. You know? Yeah, you know, in Germany you cannot I mean it's you can't name your kid Adolf. Well, it's against the law. That's I is it really? It is, it's against the law, yes it is.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

But yeah, that's I I don't know anyone who would do that.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

The the name Adolf Hitler is can't have any any any of that in your name.

SPEAKER_00 53:57

There was a documentary that came up on my feed on YouTube about like the the continuing line of that family.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

Well the Hitlers.

SPEAKER_00 54:08

Yeah, I meant to I meant to watch it, never got to it, but I think I'll get to it now because I'm kind of curious, you know.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

Like um wow, that must be like so embarrassing. Or or I don't know. I mean Can you imagine being a Hitler?

SPEAKER_00 54:22

The Germans are very serious about that. Oh, I know. Like they don't mess around. I mean, like the French are too, and the English, like I mean, like I said.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

I I had a uh I had a 15-year-old uh German exchange student living with me. And he he was like, no, that's like they take that shit serious there.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

Yeah, yeah. That's for good reason. Because it because history, right? We learn about it because we hope not to repeat it. Or maybe that should be what it should be, but it's not.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Well, I tell you, those who forget are doomed to repeat.

SPEAKER_00 54:58

Yeah. You know? And so um other crazy things that that that I can't get out of my mind is how the Supreme Court this week basically gave the green light to conversion therapy. Yeah, you know, um, for gays. Yeah. Which I was like, and here's the thing, right? They're they're gonna allow that for children, you know, and they made such a big deal about transgender kids and saying how like that's child abuse, but this really is child abuse. Yeah. Like you're forcing someone to be what they are not, right? Right? And and like being gay is not a mental illness, right? We've proven that, right? So it it is what it is, and like I don't understand uh the need to say, oh, we can therapise it away and you know teach you, you know, how to not do it. It's it's very it's uh that just leads to more problems, right? Yeah, you know, severe depression, probably like drug and alcohol.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

There's there's gotta be a problem an age factor in this.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 56:10

What if you're gonna have the surgery? Like, you know, uh you know, if you're like 10, 11, 12 years old, you know, and you know, you're you're seeing it on the news or you're hearing people talking about it, or somebody in your neighborhood is going through it. And um you know, maybe that person feels at that age that they're different, you know. But uh are they totally developed in their in their brain, their thought process to fully think it out, not in you know what I mean, what they're doing. And then again, your body isn't even fully developed yet, and you you know, you're doing major surgeries and you know, you you there's there's gotta be some sort of uh in my opinion. Yeah, some sort of uh uh an age where you can really understand and grasp what you're really doing.

SPEAKER_00 57:06

I mean my opinion is it's none of my fucking business. So I don't get an opinion. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you're gonna do what you're gonna do, yeah, and it's your right. And you know, people should not get in the way of that. Yeah, right? Like I sh why it's like me having an opinion or anyone having an opinion on a woman's body. Fuck off. Leave her the fuck alone. It's her body. Yeah, okay. She needs to fucking carry that pregnancy through, and if she cannot or doesn't want to, it's none of your business.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 57:40

End of story. Nothing else needs to be said done. True, true, true. So the fact that now we're regressing and you know, laws are like taking away their rights to do this is fucking bananas. I'm not okay with this, right? But yeah, I thought that was pretty crazy, you know, because again, LGBTQ under attack, right? And then a lot of this has to do with religion and our administration and everything else. You know, it's not okay, guys. This is not the way we're supposed to be. You know what I also thought of recently? Remember that song? Who was it? I remember it was in a movie, it was a big deal. They're all they're all uh they're coming to America. They're coming to America today. Yeah, no, now it's not. Now they're now they're running from America. Seriously.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

People are hating on Americans big time.

SPEAKER_00 58:38

Well, I mean, we're getting what we deserve, guys. But you know something?

SPEAKER_02 58:42

It it's not the people of America, is it?

SPEAKER_00 58:46

No. No.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

Because again, we're diverse and it's it's like, you know, our our leaders, our government sucks. Yeah. You know, both sides, you know, all they ever all they do is fight. You know, even before Trump was in, both sides, or they don't get anything done in Washington, but fight.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:04

You know, and load their pockets.

SPEAKER_00 59:07

And now they're it's I don't know what's gonna happen with us. But I thought anyway, guys, I'm I'm tired. I'm out. I'm out of material. But that's my crazy rant for the week. Right on. Um, until next time, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

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SPEAKER_00 59:23

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SPEAKER_02 59:27

8675 309. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

All right, guys, until next time. Bye.