The Long Way Out
It’s never too late to find your truth or change your mind. Join partners Carlos and Anthony—a nurse/professor and an addiction recovery coach—as they navigate an age-gap relationship, late-in-life coming out, divorce, and the art of the "second act".
While our journey started with our own story, we’re going everywhere from here. The Long Way Out explores any and every topic through the lens of experience and curiosity. We’re opening the floor to guests and callers to share their own stories, educate us on new perspectives, and join the conversation. Whether it’s life on the front lines of healthcare or the messy reality of starting over, we’re proving that the long way out is often the most rewarding path.
The Long Way Out
Episode 12: F*ck Taxes, and Other Things That Can F*ck!
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Recorded on Sunday, April 26, 2026.
In this episode: Why pay your taxes? How is Pakistan involved with the war in Iran? Why was Hungary so important to MAGA? Melania, the First Lady, the movie. The Trumps' approval ratings--oof! WHCD and ballroom drama. Trump dementia.
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SPEAKER_10Hey, good morning. Hey, hello. Hey Carlos.
SPEAKER_08Hey, Anthony. Hey.
SPEAKER_10Welcome to The Long Way Out. The Long Way Out. Episode. I think this is 12. Yes. Yeah. Well, we have a dozen. We have a dozen in the can.
SPEAKER_08Oh, let's get this out first. And then we can see we have them in the can. Yep. Because this is where podcasters tend to fail. This is what I keep reading. What? They don't ever make it to like past episode 10. Really? And then by episode 15, they just give up. Oh my god. And I don't want that. I want us to keep going. Oh my god. I mean, all the money that we spent on equipment. I know. And wow. You know, and it it's an investment. It is. It is. But it's a lot of fun too.
SPEAKER_10It is. We got it. Yeah, we we tried, we try to make it fun. We we do.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, our last episode, we were told last night by some of our listeners who were like, they were like, wow, that was really unhinged. And I'm like, and they were like, Unhinged. Carlos, you totally lost control of that whole thing. Oh my god. I mean, we did have talking points. Yeah, you know, and I'm glad that we got someone else on. And it was a good conversation. Yeah, it was. It was quite eye-opening to see the two of you because I'm like, where is this going and why is this happening right now?
SPEAKER_10Yeah, we had we had we had Mario here, and um, you know, we were feeding off each other, and you were like pulling your hair.
SPEAKER_08I totally was because I was like, we have so many other things to talk about, but we couldn't get to them. But anyway, what we did want to talk about last week, you know, um, those things about taxes, for example, right? So taxes, why pay your taxes? I'm a little bit pissed off that I still use turbo tax, yeah, right, because I paid almost four hundred dollars to get them processed. Right. And Mario was like, What do you mean? I already paid 200 and I saw a person.
SPEAKER_10And and what did I pay?
SPEAKER_08Nothing. You paid nothing, but you owed taxes, yeah.
SPEAKER_10So so I'm wondering if I paid if I would have gotten more. I doubt it. We did everything by the book. It's just weird that you owed taxes, yeah.
SPEAKER_08500 to to the state. I didn't owe anything, but to be fair, I do put money aside, yeah. Um, you know, extra both of my jobs, okay, because every year since 2019, I was getting charged thousands of dollars. I think one year I owe $12,000. What the fuck? You know what like you work more to pay more, yeah, basically.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, right. I I don't get how you know the state of Massachusetts, I owe them $500. Well, you owe the government $500. The state gave you back money. Oh okay. So the feds, the the fed the feds got me.
SPEAKER_08Yes.
SPEAKER_10Okay, in the state, yeah, they they gave me a couple hundred bucks.
SPEAKER_08Which I didn't understand, right? Because I almost, you know, I mean, I work a lot. Yeah, right. I got it back already. Oh, me too. I mean, I I I work a lot and I'd like to think that you know I make decent money, but it's still so expensive to live anymore that no matter like everything that I make is already spoken for in advance, right? Like I already know where this all this money is gonna go by the time I get it. And it's so sad to watch.
SPEAKER_10You're not the only one, right? Yeah, I'm sure everybody, you know, everybody depends on that check.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, and what kills me about because I did your taxes for free, which it should be that way, yeah. Um, and and I'll tell you guys, listeners, I will never use turbotax again because I well, first of all, I I won't use turbotax. Secondly, I won't wait the last fucking minute to do my taxes because what what I was doing them on April 15th or the night before. Right, yeah. And it was and it was April 15th at the stroke of midnight. Right. So I was like, uh, I just need to get it done. And then when I think you had an hour to spare. And when I saw the amount I was like that that I was paying to do this, I was like, oh fuck it. Let me just pay it and I will and I will rethink this. But then I did yours right right at the right on the wire. Yeah. Because you have a very easy tax return. And we paid nothing. And I was like, could I have done this too? God damn, you should have done the same shit.
SPEAKER_10So next year, but hold hold on. Um, you know what's what's fucking weird about it is that you know I I owe the I I owe the government $500, and at the stroke of midnight, interest begins. They don't give you like you got a month to pay this, or or whatever. You right away you're paying interest.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, you have to pay it right.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, like you can buy a friggin' couch and they give you a year, you know what I mean? The government wants it today. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Oh always charging you interest. Could you imagine that year where I had to drop down 12 grand? Oh my god. I didn't I didn't pay installments, I just ate it. And I was like, oh, this is gonna hurt. Yeah. And that just meant I had to pick up a shit ton of shifts. Oh my god. And I'm like thinking, if I pick up a shit ton of shifts, I'm gonna pay more taxes again. I know.
SPEAKER_10If you think about it, man, this is no way uh that the American people should be living. No, there's gotta be a way.
SPEAKER_08Come on. You know what was really interesting is that I almost quadruple your salary, yeah. Okay, and I they didn't owe anything. But again, I put money aside because I was afraid to owe anything, right? But it's it's crazy that that you owed money.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, okay. Taxation without representation. Where is my fucking representation? And that's what it feels like. Where is it?
SPEAKER_08They're all fighting out there, and this is why a lot of people are revolting when it comes to paying their taxes, which people are like, why should we pay taxes? Yeah, look at what they're being used for right now. I know. Okay, and so what are taxes supposed to cover? That was the thing that I was most curious about. Yeah, and so federal taxes in the US are they primarily fund um mandatory programs like Social Security, yeah, Medicare, and then health care or Medicaid, right? And national defense. Um, also, we our taxes also pay for the interest on our national debt. And there's other safety net programs. We owe so much national debt, yeah, you know, and it's it feels impossible. Like how I I think the government now is technically insolvent.
SPEAKER_10Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08And people are kind of mad because what are we paying for? Right, right. Right now we're paying for this war. Yeah. And then notice how you know programs are getting stripped right now. Yeah, yeah. Right? Like your like Medicaid is getting taken down. You know, I think there's talk to privatize Medicare or social security. Social Security, yeah. Right, which is a dangerous thing to do. Yeah. Um give it to a bank, my goal. I think it happened in Venezuela. They privatized their social security and it went to shit.
SPEAKER_10No, but the taxes, like, check it out, right? On on the way home last night, you know, the the roads, the the roads are horrendous. Every bump you go over, like, you know, it's just it's horrible. The roads are in disarray, street lights aren't working, sidewalks are, you know, people are falling. Yes. Like, you know, nothing, the infrastructure isn't getting fixed. You know, it's uh the monies are going to oh like overseas and it's it's just horrible.
SPEAKER_08It's just horrible. And the thing is, like, where is our money going? Right? A lot of people feel that, you know, according to Pew Research, that six out of ten people believe that the wealthy are not paying enough in taxes. Right. And what I and what I learned is they do pay taxes based on their wages, right? That's how taxes are taxed on what you make as a wage. Okay. So rich people, from the sounds of it, you know, their wage limits will be like in the millions, for example, but all the other money gets put away in things like investments. And those aren't taxed the same.
SPEAKER_10Right, right.
SPEAKER_08Right. And so when they buy like shares in a company or they invested in like real estate or other things, other investments, those aren't taxed like wages. Yeah. Um, so I guess that's how they get away with it.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_08If I'm incorrect, somebody please correct me.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. And I'm sure they all have unbelievable accountants.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, but like that's but that's the that's the frustration that Americans, I guess, are feeling right now, right? They feel that some wealthy people don't pay their fair share. Okay. And it's it's weird that Democrats are more about, yes, they need to pay more, and Republicans are like, eh, maybe. Yeah.
SPEAKER_10And what about corporations? So corporations. They pay fucking zip. Some of those major corporations, I pay more taxes than them.
SPEAKER_08That's true, right? It's horrible. Because, like, let me see, what did Bernie Sanders say last week? He said, if you paid one dollar in federal income tax this year, you paid more than Walt Disney, Citigroup, CVS, Coles, Ticketmaster, Tesla, United Airlines, GoDaddy, Pay PayPal, Palantir, Roku, HB3M, PGE, and Halley Burton. And he's saying that's absurd. We need real and progressive tax reform. Wow. I know. They don't pay any taxes, they have all the loopholes. They there's I don't know what those loopholes are because I'm not an accountant. Wow. You know what I'm saying? But what makes me crazy is that corporations are treated like people in the eyes of the law. Wow. Okay, so so a corporation, I guess, can sue another person, or are I guess they can be sued as well, right? But they're treated like a person. Okay. And and I don't know, like I wish I understood how it worked. Yeah, yeah. You know, so speaking of all the fuckery that we were talking about, that war that we're funding right now. Oh my god. Right. Um, I think the last estimate that I heard was that each day that we're at war with Iran is costing us like over two billion dollars a day.
SPEAKER_10The United States of aggression.
SPEAKER_08Yes. And like, and with this war, you know, last week I was like, how the fuck is Pakistan involved now? I don't understand any of this. Like, where is this all going? Okay. And so remember your alliances, folks, okay. Um, because you have the axis of resistance, right? With Iran, right? You have Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Palest Palestine, and Syria. Okay. And is there the Israeli allies are going to be the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, Egypt, Jordan, Azerbaijan, Turkey. All right. And Pakistan is not, you know, they're not um an ally of Israel, you know. They they don't recognize Israel as a sovereign like nation, okay. Um, but they do have ties with Tehran still, and they call themselves neutral. Okay, so I guess that's why the peace talks were happening over there. Okay.
SPEAKER_10Peace talks, they and every time they go for a peace talk, they come back on the plane empty-handed. That's just it. So they keep invincible. The jinx. That's so true, though, right?
SPEAKER_08And the thing is, like, what a loser. He is a loser. He's such a loser. I don't I remember when they picked him, I'm like, why did they pick this fucking guy? I don't understand. But bottom line, like, when you tell a country that you're gonna blow them back to the dark ages or destroy their civilization, like, what do you expect? Oh shit, right? I would be like, fuck you, no negotiating, right? And so that straight up hormous is such a big deal, right? Because a lot of nations get their oil through there. Yeah, yeah. And then fertilizer, which is also a petroleum product, we're gonna need that. And if we're not getting it during the growing season, what do you think is gonna happen to food prices? We're just gonna get squeezed more.
SPEAKER_10Absolutely. You know, and at you know, at the beginning of the war, the Iranian people, they they were they were for it. They were like, yes, we're gonna have democracy, you know, but then it came out if anybody protests, we're gonna shoot you in the head. Like they were out in in the thousands, you know, and like, yeah, you're helping us, you're helping us. But now, you know, they're afraid and and they're kind of with their regime again.
SPEAKER_08It's it's and the thing is, they're probably looking at us and they're like, You're fucking us, you're fucking us, right? It's fucked up, you know, and they see and the and and our in our government is acting like we're doing the people a favor. We're you're not doing anyone a favor right now.
SPEAKER_10Knock it off, yeah, right? And then you right, you get like on the news today, Trump. We we um we we decapitated uh their their military. You did not, you know, they got boats, they they got ships out there still, they got fighters.
SPEAKER_08I mean, yeah, they got fucking mines in the straits.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, yeah, they're still bombing, they're still bombing countries.
SPEAKER_08It's getting stupid out there, right? So he blocked the strait of like I mean, the strait was Iran, it blocked it in like uh like back in April 12th, around that time, right? And a week later, still blocked, right? And then now we're extending the time for negotiations again.
SPEAKER_10But Trump Trump said that he blocked it also.
SPEAKER_08And so was there is there a double block? There is a double block. Oh my god, which is like, no, I'm not gonna you're not gonna block me, I'm gonna block you.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, so the so like you can go this far, and then you know, you know, you know, again, you can go this far and you're blocked, but if you get through that and then you come to the US block, it's fucked up.
SPEAKER_08He's such a like just like acting like a fucking five-year-old throwing a tantrum, yeah. Or, you know, a dementia written person throwing a tantrum, yeah, like a five-year-old, right? I it's unreal. I don't know what I I guess the latest right now, as of today, the conflict between the US and Israel and Iran is in a tense limbo phase. Oh my god. So there's a war in limbo, yeah, fragile extended ceasefire, right, combined with a dual blockade and the Strait of Hormuz. So now their peace talks have collapsed yet again.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_08What are we at six weeks into this war? Yeah, uh I think it's about six weeks now, and Pakistan, right, is like, nope, we don't even want to see JD Vance. Fuck that guy. Yeah. Okay. So he's good, he was gonna so Trump decided he was gonna send Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkop instead. Hooray. But now, now he's not doing anything because now the US is saying um, you know, they won't meet people uh nobody's ever heard of, and citing an unreasonable Iranian uh stance.
SPEAKER_10Right.
SPEAKER_08Right. So this is gonna this is just gonna keep going for I don't know, who knows at this point. You know, the more time that we spend there, the more money is gonna get burned in the process.
SPEAKER_10You know what's you know what's fucked up when you think about it? All the chaos in the world, all done by politicians. Yep, you know, it's all politicians ruin everything.
SPEAKER_08But think about all the corruption that's going on just with this administration. It's getting wild. And why do you think people don't want to pay for this shit? Yeah, okay. You know, you're paying for this war two billion dollars a day. We're struggling with healthcare costs, you're slashing Medicaid, you're slashing, you know, program after programs that people need to survive.
SPEAKER_10Right?
SPEAKER_08It's getting insane enough already. Right, stop it, you know. You admit your lost. Yeah, you fucking lost. That will never happen with Trump. Right? It's and and then you're gonna have to learn to negotiate. He's also a loser. They have the upper hand, I hate to say. I mean, what's where what he hates that? What other way is the way out here? Right. Um, so the other thing that happened over the past couple of weeks, Victor Orban in Hungary uh lost the election. Yeah, right. Uh Magyar is the person who won. Um, and basically, why is that? And I was wondering why that was so important. Again, it shows JD Vance's failure because he went there to support Victor Orban and they fucking lost. Okay, which is a good thing, but at the same time, I'm like, why is it so important? Okay, yeah, Hungary, believe it or not, is the blueprint for what was going on here. Yeah, okay. So if you look at what's going on Hungary, Victor Orban took control of the media, the media only reported what he wanted to be reported, right? Okay, and that's happening over here too. How the media is being bought up by billionaires who have a stake, right, in this right-wing administration, right? So they're controlling everything that we see and hear from the media. That's why independent news is so important.
SPEAKER_10So how how do they like Hungarian people, are they for or against their government?
SPEAKER_08Like, though they're against their government, and that's why they voted for MacGar, right? Because they wanted they were enough of this already, right? So not only was the media being taken over, look at what's happening with LGBTQ and trans. And I shouldn't say LGBTQ and trans because trans is part of LGBTQ. Okay, so let's just say LGBTQ, how they were being vilified and demonized in Hungary, it's happening here too. Look at the rights that are being taken away. Yeah, and I've already said this like we need to give a shit about this group because if they are able to do this to a group, no matter how small they are, because they represent one percent of the population, yeah. Okay, if they can do that to them, it doesn't stop them from doing it to others. So it's not even there, even with immigrants in Hungary. Immigration policies change, they were against the immigration, right? Uh policies or having immigrants at all, and it's happening here too, okay. So that's why it was so important that the Trump administration supported Victor Orban because that's their blueprint. Right, we basically were copying what they're doing and bringing it here at a larger scale. Can you imagine? Okay, so it's pretty good that they fucking lost. Wow, and I'm gonna blame that shit on JD Vance because what other failures did JD Vance? And it's kind of funny because some people are like, Yeah, dude, you're fucking cursed. So basically, this is a theory that came out this year because JD Vance is basically associated with a streak of bad luck politically or with his own personal misfortunes. Oh, yeah, he's got the black cloud going on. He really does. So not only did he lose this election for Victor Orban, but he also remember he also failed those Iranian uh US talks. Yeah, right? Yeah, and then remember when he met with the with Pope Francis, and then he fucking dies the next day on Easter. Yeah, okay. And remember the uh football trophy during a White House event, the uh college football national championship trophy was reportedly broken immediately after Vance touched it. Wow, yeah, so this fucking guy, you know, like just stay away.
SPEAKER_10Everything he touches turns to gold.
SPEAKER_08But anyway, he's I guess because he was he is the number two, right? I guess he had to be.
SPEAKER_10You know what number you know what number two is, right? The poop. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's it's you know what you know what the vice president is? You know when you go out to eat, yeah, you go out to eat and you get a beautiful meal, and they put the little garnish on the top. That's him. He's just there for you know, the little, you know, just for show. For show, yeah. We don't even need him.
SPEAKER_08I mean, they could have picked a better looking thing for show. Sick. Anyway, with his eyeliner and everything. Do you notice he wears fucking eyeliner? Really? He's gotta be wearing eyeliner. Get the fuck out of here. You think he's trans? Um, there were like uh mutterings about him being in drag and stuff. I wonder I wonder if there's any pictures of him without the beard. I wonder what he looks like. I don't know, but that whole thing, that's a that's a whole nother thing that we can get into later.
SPEAKER_10I didn't know that he was a makeup. I didn't know that he was like fucking Maybelline.
SPEAKER_08But we just know that he's cursed. I know maybe it's Maybelline Fucking JD Vance. Anyway, his presidential high hopes are now on the toilet. So he's like now he's saying that, oh, I'm not gonna run for the presidency because I want to start focusing on my family probably issues. Yeah. Right?
SPEAKER_10Because if you Oh, he wants he wants to go away into into the fucking into the into the spotlight and uh or the sunshine and enjoy his money.
SPEAKER_08What I don't understand is that he could stand for policies like this. anti-immigration and his wife is Indian. Right? And your kids are biracial. Yeah. Right. And there's all this other talk that Erica Kirk, you know, how she's like suddenly pregnant. And people are like, oh, is that JD Vance's baby? Oh wow. Oh yeah. I didn't hear that. Some inappropriate shit out there. Really? It's just some muttering that I noticed while I was looking him up. Because, you know, hmm, I don't know. Oh God. Not that I want anything bad to happen to that baby, but if it's his, anything he touches. Right, right. You know? Um the other thing that we we watched that oh I hate to admit this, but we did watch Melania. I refused to pay for it at the theater. Because you remember when the movie came out, Boston was giving people $50 to go see it.
SPEAKER_10To go see it.
SPEAKER_08But then you realized when you got there it wasn't $50 actual dollars that you can spend at like you know the grocery store. It was $50 of fucking Trump coin.
SPEAKER_10Oh my God.
SPEAKER_08I know which the only way that you would make that valuable is to buy more Trump coin. Yeah. Right? What a fucking raccoon. You see this is what I'm saying. Like the Trump administration is making more money. The movie itself I think it cost Amazon you know Jeff Bezos it cost like $200 million to make which of 70 million went into Melania's pocket.
SPEAKER_10Wow. Yeah. Now back to back to Boston giving out the uh $50 did they do that why did why just Boston or did they do nationwide I think it was just in Boston at the time.
SPEAKER_08I wonder why well because they couldn't get anyone to see the fucking movie. They're not going to get it supported here. People don't give a shit.
SPEAKER_10Right, right but I'm talking like you know it must be the same feelings nationwide.
SPEAKER_08Um yeah I think so it I mean the movie bombed.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. Even though they're like it's a great success right they couldn't get people to go so they were giving them money but why just Boston?
SPEAKER_08I don't get that. It was just so they can increase viewership I guess. Wow. Yeah and numbers and money and stuff like that. But the thing is like that movie didn't go anywhere. No. Right?
SPEAKER_10Like it just didn't even have any sizzle in the pin.
SPEAKER_08You know I yeah like you know and one of my favorite reviewers said that you can show this on a plane and people will still walk off which I thought was great. But and the thing is like we watched this movie I I mean I'm gonna admit I fell asleep because I watched it we put it on when I came home and it was that fucking boring. Like it was leading up to you know his inauguration right you know and the times that she talked about her mother she talked about her past yeah you they didn't delve into it you get you got nothing you got no juicy tidbits. You know it was just a narcissistic piece of vapid filmmaking. Yeah that's what I mean it was glitzy and it had like I guess it had what you would call like a like they spent a lot of money on it. Okay. So the production value was was on point I I guess right for a movie. I mean if you have such a large budget you could make it glitzy you know but it's showing her and basically was a fashion show for her. Yeah you know and it and for me it went nowhere right but then you and I thought about this because I was like what is the job of the first lady another piece of garnish. You know I know right but I don't know there were some first ladies you know I mean first of all it's an unpaid position. Yeah okay and I guess she or he because if you have the first husband right they would still need to you know do something with that right I mean how would you not use that position to for betterment yeah each of them I guess had some sort of advocacy right like Michelle Obama was the get moving you know for obesity yeah you know um what are other past ones Nancy Reagan what did she have say no it was just say no say no right so those are the ones that that come to mind for me. And I think Hillary Clinton supported like healthcare or some reform or something like that. Right? So her advocacy is be best be best oh my god I know and so and part of is that an organization I I think they become an organization. Yes just kind of how like say no to drugs were and the get moving campaign be best be best and then part of be best bullying internet bullying to like prevent that which is hilarious because Trump on Truth Social Oh my god he's the biggest bully around it was like you were ranting and raving and treating people like shit name calling right how about you start there Melania like it's craziness but you know I it I guess the timing was perfect for us because we watch this and then she comes up with that fucking press conference where she was like oh I'm not an Epstein victim.
SPEAKER_10Yeah what the hell I I shouldn't make fun of her did she say she never met him accent yes yeah she's claiming that she never met him she's claiming that she never um was a victim of him Epstein was the matchmaker for Trump and Melania and so I guess she was saying that she had nothing to do with it.
SPEAKER_00I thought Epstein hooked him up together thinking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today the individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards humility and respect I do not object to their ignorance but rather I reject their mean spirited attempts to to defame my reputation I never being friends with Epstein I never being friends with were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time since overlapping in social circles is common in New York City and Palm Beach.
SPEAKER_08Oh fuck off like you were there okay and if all this was happening and you attended the party you're part of the problem where did she where did she find the word overlapping come on somebody's writing for her that shit is called chat GPT wow overlapping she she said she doesn't think that way that I maybe she does I mean she's been in this fucking country 30 years now come on you know and remember in the movie she kept going my husband the unifier but then you were like but then you I guess I was like dozing off and then you woke me up and she was like oh my god she didn't say unit she didn't say unity she said unity like like she's putting that shit on yeah like knock it off okay like knock it off bitch it's unreal it is unreal but you know there was something on Reddit that I saw that Jeffrey Epstein reportedly revealed that he was responsible for Trump and Melania meeting claiming the first time he slept with her was on my plane I know and it's exactly what you just said they've they've known each other right and then now she's making these claims you never yeah yeah I I think it's wild but then there's this little tidbit that I did find on threads the Mile High Club I'm telling you like these people like a new book was published yesterday in the US and UK called entitled The Rise and Fall of the House of York by a British journalist by the name of Andrew Looney.
SPEAKER_10And it's about the pathetic life of Prince Andrew but it is also about his connection to Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein and Melania Trump and in fact it contains a passage in which Epstein is coded and this is from an interview apparently in 2007 where he says that he had sex with Melania a full year before Donald Trump commenced his relationship with Melania Yeah never met before ever never ever met oh I know right she's a fucking whore no I here's the thing like women women in my opinion should have all the sex they want okay they're not harming anyone at the time she was men are allowed to do that but she was she was a model who ended up you know in this circle and she she like kind of was being passed around and she loved it.
SPEAKER_08I don't know if she loved it okay I don't want to ever think that okay because we have to remember she's you know Slovenian you know she didn't she probably didn't have the same opportunities as people would you know in those circles would you can go down any road you want she's a slut I you know but and that and I have a problem with that I have a problem calling women sluts when they like sex. You know they should be able to engage in sex just like men and not have a problem with it.
SPEAKER_10That's why Epstein was banging her a whole year.
SPEAKER_08She's a fucking cum burpin pig no my problem with is with the the lying and the hypocrisy of all right that's what pisses me off about it.
SPEAKER_10Right.
SPEAKER_08Like don't pretend that you didn't know this guy. You fucking clearly did God so as a result you know well I guess even not as a result like they're both their approval ratings her approval rating Trump's approval rating all time low. Trump I think his approval rating is like in the 30s you know to the point that his old supporters you know his podcast stars like Megan Kelly Tucker Carlson Candace Owen Alex Jones you know they're all backing down now I think Tucker Carlson went on to even apologize for his involvement in getting this man elected. Wow even his big supporters in Congress like uh Marjorie Taylor Green was like oh this is not the man that I voted for I'm like get the fuck out of here okay what actually let me see what she says here because all of these podcast stars now are fighting back because they don't want the association with this man. You know they see that this ship is sinking. They're in fix it mode you know well they have to fix themselves. Yeah. Right because that I mean at the end of the day they need listeners they need viewers right and if everybody is hating on this guy why associate yourself with him now right because everybody's gonna remember that you were a staunch supporter right and now all of a sudden you're backing down because you see that this this this is failing now. This is falling apart. Right. So for example, let me see Megan Kelly here.
SPEAKER_03News is insufferable right now insufferable. I was there for 14 years I've already told my audience if I were a Fox News anchor right now I'd know exactly what to do. Cheerlead cheerlead that's it it's all about rum rama rum go military that's what's patriotic praise the president support the troops support the war day in day out that's I mean this morning who did they put on Mike Pompeo to come to kick off the day's coverage. Lindsay Graham all over Fox News over the weekend that it's utterly unhelpful to go like today obviously I've come out and said how I honestly feel because I owe that to my audience but today we're gonna have both sides done to help people actually make up their own minds. You will not find that over on Fox News they've got one mission and that's to support these military groups the military itself and President Trump it it but it's just folly. It's folly sir and it's it's a fool's errand.
SPEAKER_08So that's her now now she's backing away and didn't she like she worked for Fox News okay and now she's they're all on the image control right now. Well that's what I'm saying you see she's backing down now she's like I am not supporting this you know but then in the same breath or not you know in a few breaths later she was like oh he can bomb the shit out of Iran and I would still support him right make up your mind like what is going on here one of his biggest supporters in the past Marjorie Taylor Green here we go.
SPEAKER_01I mean all the things that happened we supported him through thick and thin and that has glued people glued people to think they have to support him through anything and everything and that's wrong. That's absolutely wrong. The American people have to open their eyes and deal with reality and deal with truth. And the truth is like you may have supported President Trump for 10 years like I did like you have but this is not the same man. This is not the same man that we supported no he is the same man.
SPEAKER_08He has he has been the same man the entire time dumbass. Okay. And the thing is like she got so she's no longer part of Congress like her seat's already been taken okay and I think she had dreams of running for the presidency also. So in order to do that and she has to clean slate herself and get her disassociate herself with all this fuckery.
SPEAKER_10You see it's you know that's a thing impossible.
SPEAKER_08It's just but people but people are now seeing it okay so if these people are seeing it of course they're gonna run the other fucking way right and I think the the people on the ground are seeing it too yeah yeah so and then like I think he was all all all the all the MAGA people are seeing it. Yeah because his response you know about all these people going against him you know he's saying I know why Tucker Carlson Megan Kelly Candace Owen and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran the nuclear one state sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon because they have one thing in common low IQs. They're stupid people they know it their families know it and everyone else knows it too look at the past look at their record they don't have what it takes and they never did they've all been thrown off television lost their shows and aren't even invited on on TV because nobody cares about them. They're nutjobs troublemakers and will say anything necessary for some free and cheap publicity so that's Trump fighting back on true social. So now they're beefing which is great all right but people pay attention to what's happening these were people that supported Trump hundred percent now they're like nope staunch supporters because they see that this is failing yeah all right they're seeing that people are losing support yeah for him right he's losing support of the people right he's at an all time low he it see even his staff is fucking taking off yeah you know yeah and I think there's rumors that Tucker Carlson also a podcaster because now anyone could be fucking president yeah is thinking about being president you know he'll deny it all day long. And you know and I used to joke like oh you know when I did certain things or have done certain my dark past that I would say like I can't I can never have a political career damn fucking straight I can if I wanted to you know you know what would be what would be the biggest blow to him if his press secretary oh you want to talk about his press secretary can you can you imagine if if she like says I'm fucking out of here I mean she's such a propagandist and she's really good at it. But I but now we're starting to see the cracks because it's stressful right it's very stressful because you know his popularity right now Trump's popularity popularity is so low right now that people are now starting to think you know that first assassination attempt you know with the ear you remember that yeah they're saying it stage and we've been saying it the whole time yeah yeah and you know you know what I heard I heard that um how his ear uh got cut was when the Secret Service uh you know they went up and they took him down you know below the uh the the the the stand well you know the uh the podium the podium and he banged his ear on the way down that's how you know there's this there there's some uh yeah because if it's a shotgun coming from your ear that's your ear's gone yeah sorry yeah right and maybe even parts of your skull yeah and in the way it's it it's just like whiz by and like no just nicked them no a nick that that whole thing's coming you're not fucking shaving it's a bullet that's what I'm saying it takes five pounds of pressure to rip your ear off god right because when you're attacked that's what they say get the ear grab it and rip it downwards it doesn't take that much and that's how you get your attacker off of you right but if a fucking bullet's whizzing past you it's come it's taking your ear off yeah okay like it's gonna do a lot more damage because there's a lot more pressure than five pounds coming at you with that bullet it's it's wild because because I know you've been wanting to talk about this because what was it the White House correspondence dude so I watched the videos and it looks like it's so staged dude it's so crazy. Unbelievable but let me play this because you talked about Carolyn Levitt okay hang on so this is Carolyn Levitt before the dinner started okay here goes rumble is he not he is ready to rumble I will tell you this speech tonight will be classic Donald J.
SPEAKER_06Trump it'll be funny it'll be entertaining there will be some shots fired tonight in the road so everyone should tune in it's gonna be really great and I'm looking forward to hearing it I love it all and you wrote most of it you said I can't take credit um in true Donald Trump fashion the man puts his pen to the paper himself so it's a lot of his own work a lot of his own work she says get the fuck out of here he is ready to rumble I think that's hilarious.
SPEAKER_10It's like she's like oh we we're planning the shots to be fired yeah right like come on dude unreal this is wild okay the WHC D, the shooter Cole Thomas Allen he's a 31 year old guy from Torrance, California.
SPEAKER_08You know he was he stayed at the hotel okay he stayed there and they say that um he was armed to the gills when they got him he had guns and knives and he was ready to rock I mean okay think about this for a second from California okay Torrance California I mean that's convenient right because they're gonna be like the radical left from the coastal state of California right they're gonna pull that shit I'm already predicting it okay and then so he had guns and knives like where is the security here well you know where like none of that was gonna get detected right but you know they they did say that a Secret Service agent was shot but he was saved by his bulletproof vest. How convenient how can we can you imagine? Because people who plan to kill people know to aim at your bulletproof vest. Not your head not your right like but let me let me aim for your vest. Yeah right I'm not gonna I'm not I'm gonna assume you're not wearing any gear under that shirt under that suit.
SPEAKER_10Unbelievable what is happening okay and it really I mean it looked dramatic and it looked like oh my god save JD Van save the president yeah and you don't you know like one of the first things Trump said this is one of the reasons why we need the ballroom oh oh yeah yeah absolutely we need the ballroom this place had no security you know we would be able to fit all those people into the White House and we have great security at the White House that would have never happened you see where our money is going folks this is why people are pissed about paying taxes yeah and you know what's interesting about that they're they are accepting accepting donor money for this ballroom and a lot of the donors are anonymous they don't even want to be associated with this ballroom okay so I don't understand if you don't want to be associated with the ballroom and the donations that you're giving towards it then why give it at all?
SPEAKER_08Like why are you supporting this?
SPEAKER_10You know what he was saying he was saying that uh prior presidents were trying uh it's been 150 years people you know former presidents been trying to build a ballroom for 150 years at the way I don't know if there's any truth to that but this is crazy 150 years.
SPEAKER_08You but the thing is like there the money's not there right you claim that there's not money for healthcare for fuck's sake. Yeah like and people are being you know broke they're you know they're going broke because they're paying their m fucking medical bills.
SPEAKER_10Right.
SPEAKER_08This should not be a problem you know You say there's not enough money to support something like Medicare for All. My God, can you imagine the the improved lives people would have if they had access to Medicare? Right? Because our our jobs, insurance is supported by our jobs for the most part. Right. We're private insurance. Okay. There's no need for that if we have Medicare for all. Exactly. Look how beautiful your life is right now with Medicare. Yeah. Flawless. Because now you're like, I don't need to keep my job. I can go do something else. Absolutely because now it doesn't depend on that. Right. And Medicare is actually pretty good. It covers a lot of stuff. And they're not going to be able to do it.
SPEAKER_10It's a lot of cheaper than Blue Cross Blue Sale. It is. Okay. $208.
SPEAKER_08And that's the thing. Like, if my taxes were supporting something like that, I would be more likely to, you know, I'd be happier to pay for that. You know, let me have my fucking Medicare.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Everyone should have access to it.
SPEAKER_10No, I just had surgery. Yeah. And it was full, you know, like I didn't pay, I didn't have to pay anything.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_10You know? Yeah.
SPEAKER_08I mean, yes, there is a bill.
SPEAKER_10But but no, but blue cross blue shield, like right away, they'd be like, boom, you need a deductible. Like up front.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_10Up front. That's true.
SPEAKER_08That's true. I mean, I still have issues with it because that should have been covered all the way. And again, we can make that happen for all Americans. Yeah. Right. If everybody's chipping in, okay, it's just really how they're allocating them the funds. Yeah. Right. And we're allocating to war right now. We're allocating to the Trump to Arc that I guess was in the plans. You know, we're allocating to the stupid ballroom that nobody fucking wants and where we don't need. Okay. But yeah, so after last night's WHCD shooting, this is Trump here right now.
SPEAKER_07Uh we looked at all of the conditions that took place tonight. And I will say, you know, it's not a particularly secure building. And uh I didn't want to say this, but uh, this is why we have to have all of the attributes of what we're planning at the White House. It's actually a larger room and it's uh much more secure. It's got drone proof, it's bulletproof glass. We need the ballroom. That's why Secret Service, that's why the military are demanding it. They've wanted the ballroom for 150 years for lots of different reasons, but today's uh a little bit different because today we need levels of security that probably nobody's ever seen before.
SPEAKER_10We need that. Everything with him is at levels nobody's ever seen before. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08He says that often. I know. And on his true social, he's like, he signs it Donald J. Trump. Yeah. Or this thank you for your attention to this matter. Fuck off. Nobody everybody fucking knows it's you. Knock it off. Right? Because and he and oh my god, the dementia, I swear, is getting worse. I swear. And I saw the dementia with him back when he was like, they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs, and people still fucking voted for that shit. Yeah, I know. It is nutty, it is really fucking nutty. So not only is Trump beefing with all of these people, he was beefing with the Pope, too. I know. Can you imagine the poor? Like, and the Pope, the Pope, you know, just like any other human on planet Earth, should have the right to an opinion.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, one of the first things when the Pope got in, I I I remember like him praying for the American president. Oh my god. I mean, I be careful what you pray for.
SPEAKER_08I mean, he was just being like the Pope, right? Like he wasn't being a piece of shit. Right. And now he's talking a he's talking against the war. Um, and then Trump didn't like that.
SPEAKER_10All popes do that, you know, every Pope is against war. Everybody won everybody wants to be against war, you know. There's not a pope out there that'll say, Yeah, they deserve to get bombed. No, they're absolutely peaceful people, you know.
SPEAKER_08You know, and that's and that's what he wanted. You know, he didn't want any of this, and then he stated what he said, and Trump didn't like it because Trump said Pope Leo is weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy. He talks about fear of the Trump administration, but doesn't mention the fear that the Catholic Church and all other Christian organizations had during COVID when they were arresting priests, ministers, and everybody else for holding church services, even when going outside and being 10 and even 20 feet apart. I like his brother Lewis much better than I like him because Lewis is all MAGA. He gets it, and Leo doesn't. I don't want a Pope who thinks it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I don't want a pope who thinks it's terrible that they that America attacked Venezuela, a country that was sending massive amounts of drugs into the United States and even worse, emptying their prisons, including murderers, drug dealers, and killers, into our country. And I don't want a pope who criticizes the president of the United States because I'm doing exactly what I was elected in a landslide to do, setting record low numbers in crime and creating the greatest stock market in history. Leo should be thankful because, as everyone knows, he was a shocking surprise. So basically, he was gonna go into like, oh, nobody wanted you to be the Pope anyway, and like, but this is what he does, right? Right? You criticize him, and then he's gonna like insult you and then make up shit.
SPEAKER_09Yep.
SPEAKER_08Like, you know, it and then that's a wild thing with him. I don't understand why people are still supporting this.
SPEAKER_10He fights with everybody, he fights with everybody, everybody, yeah, you know, he that's the bullying, you know.
SPEAKER_08He's never he's never wrong, and that crazy AI slop about him coming down and healing someone, like that Jesus figure.
SPEAKER_10I was supposed to be a doctor, and then they said what? No, no, no, I'm not I wasn't supposed to be a doctor. It the video was doctored, like so many variations, so many, so many variations. I don't know what to say. They they get caught in their own lives constantly, they always do.
SPEAKER_08They get caught constantly. I was like, I don't know about you, Trump, but my doctor doesn't show up with a fucking glowing orb and he comes to see me from my checkouts.
SPEAKER_09Holy shit.
SPEAKER_08Like, what the fuck? I mean, he's losing it. Oh, yeah. Okay, he is losing it. There is uh a psychologist who weighs in on his mental state here. This is a little bit long, but uh no, this is like real shit. Yeah, and real shit that people professionals are noticing. Yeah, that things that we should really be concerned about. But here's a good listen here.
SPEAKER_04It's not just that he has cognitive decline, he's a rock rolling downhill. I've said for years, look at Donald Trump today, because that's the best Donald Trump you're ever gonna see. The nature of his organic cognitive decline, which I believe is probably frontotemporal dementia, is that it never gets better and it never stays the same. It only gets worse. The rate of deterioration begins to accelerate. At this point, the decline is so rapid that he's not the same man he was four weeks ago. The frontal lobe is really what distinguishes us from animals. It's the thing that inhibits us from just acting on stray impulses. But the main thing people need to understand if you think of that frontal lobe as deteriorating, right? And that's the break, and that's the judgment, right? The two things you would need in a president of the United States who's making decisions about war are judgment and restraint. And those are the two things that he is literally we're almost down to zero in the tank. These are the patients in the nursing home who they dose with high dose antipsychotics because they're so violent and out of control. And he's not just a patient in a nursing home, he's got the nuclear codes. You know, the way he's talked about the war in Iran, half the time he's incomprehensible, and half the time he's internally inconsistent. There's no rhyme or reason to it. He's become more erratic, he's become uh more uh disinhibited. He is a malignant narcissist on a good day, right before he had organic cognitive decline, which means he is fundamentally an evil person. His frontal lobes are deteriorating. Um, he's losing judgment, he's losing what little impulse control he had, he's losing his hold on reality. What malignant narcissists like to do is to feel powerful by destroying and dominating and hurting other people. They're sexual sadists who feel better by causing harm to other people. He can use the U.S. military to blow up whoever he wants, uh, and that gives him gratification. You know, he said to Jonathan uh Swan that the military is looking forward to its next conquest. You know, this is fun for him, and he's becoming addicted to it in the international uh military arena, saying, Oh, we'll take Cuba next. What people need to understand is this person is insane. The problem is, is yes, because he's always been a sadist, he's always been a liar, he's always been a mean, I'll hurt you person. Right. Uh he's always uh uh tried to make everyone feel bad and make himself feel powerful at their expense, that it seems like it's just more Trump. Well, in a sense it is, because what happens when people get dementia is whatever personality disorder they have becomes ten times worse. And there's no one to advise him, no one to restrain him, no one to contradict him, and it's going to get worse. This is actually what's really quite so frightening. I see us hurtling towards the apocalypse, and I don't see anything getting in the way. I don't see any friction even slowing us down. An apocalypse.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. And so that's the thing, right? And I remember giving a lecture on personality disorders for my class, and um, and that was the Dr. John Gartner, by the way, a clinical psychologist. So he's an expert in this area, okay. And so what I remember giving this lecture on personality disorders because I teach all the psych content at my in my program, okay. And we were talking about uh narcissistic personality disorder, which is an actual diagnosis. And a lot of people are not diagnosed with this because it's kind of hard to, you know, to get them to talk because it's a clinical diagnosis, meaning that there's no blood work or imaging or anything like that that can say, oh yeah, this is the this this is your disorder. It's more about you know, observing them, right, meeting with them, you know, assessing the things that they say and the things that they do and things like that. And a lot of people, you know, they're not getting help for personality disorders. So a lot of people are roaming the world with their personality disorders, and the only time they seek help is when their fucking life is a dumpster fire, okay? Yeah, and then they get help. Right. Okay. When it's too late. And so I remember the students were like, I purposely skipped narcissistic personality disorder because I couldn't get any good, you know, famous people that have this problem. Right, right. And there's a whole fucking list of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, but there's people who have like borderline personality disorder, you know, like Amber Heard, right? She's been diagnosed with it. And there's other famous people who who who have them, okay. But my my class was like, oh, you skipped narcissistic personality disorder, and so I was forced to go back to it. And they're like, so who would have that? And I was like, okay, I don't want to get political here, but you know, and he's and this person's not diagnosed with it yet, okay. But Donald J. Trump. And then I listed all the things because there are, believe it or not, MAGA supporters in the student nursing group. Well, there are, right? There, there is a sprinkling of them in the group, which is fine, you could support whatever, but think about what you're voting for. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like be careful what you wish for, right? And it really shocked me that people, I mean, they didn't take offense because I didn't dig too deep during class, but I did say, but this is why he has this personality disorder. And I wasn't wrong. Yeah. Okay. Like I feel kind of validated right now. But the thing is, like, with a personality disorder and with dementia, what this doctor is saying is very true because I believe that dementia is very much like alcohol. You know how they say with alcohol there's truth? Right? That shit is truth serum. Yeah. It really brings out who you truly are. Yeah. Right. Dementia, in my opinion, is in within the same vein. It does the same shit. The deeper you progress into it, right, the more you become who you truly imagine. Okay. What's scary about this situation is that now it's magnified because of that dementia.
SPEAKER_10Right. And it's only getting worse. Good. And it doesn't get better. Okay. And it doesn't stay anywhere else.
SPEAKER_08It's only been what, a year and a half.
unknownWeirdly.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. So but he's he's had a habit for a while. You know, it's right now being recognized. But you know, it didn't just come on and within a year and a half. He's he's had it for a while. Yeah, he's totally had it for a while.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. And the thing is, it's gonna accelerate, right? And it's gonna get worse. And uh, you know, I don't know what hope we have for this to get better. Good. You know, but anyway, I think we're out of time. I think enough of the fuckery, there's more fuckery coming. Undiagnosed mental health. I mean, we there are so many other things that we meant to talk about in this episode, but we can't go on. We don't want to make these too long for people. But we will be covering more stuff because man, there's so much to talk about. My goodness. Anyway, guys, thank you for listening. Yeah, thank you for having me. Subscribe, comment.
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