Episode 15: I Know You're Trying To Stay Positive But....

Recorded on Thursday, June 18, 2026

In this episode:  We took some time off; Happy (-ish) Pride Month; Not feeling patriotic; The US lost this war, and just keeps losing; Boston's Scottish invasion, AI is cool, but has a dark side.

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Music: Stick The Landing by Everet Almond

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:02

Hey, Carlos, we're back on. We are. Welcome to the long way out. The long way out. We don't want to know something? I am a member of the Tartan Army.

SPEAKER_05 0:14

Um, you're not Scottish.

SPEAKER_07 0:16

Well, uh no, I'm Scottish for this week. Just for the week? Just for the week. Oh, geez. I'll tell you, they took over Boston. World Cup is here. Seriously, what a group of people.

SPEAKER_05 1:00

It's been it's been very fun for Boston, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:03

They've done so much, you know, and they they they're not rowdy, they're happy loving people. And um, you know, they even they're they're doing so many things in the community, also, you know, like they gave ten thousand dollars to a a um a children's hospital in in Providence, yeah, you know, so our we've been gone for a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:26

We have we took some time off, right? Like not, I don't know if that was intentional, it was just kind of like we're busy, things are going on. I mean, not as busy as I was before, yeah. I just felt like tired, right? Like trying to recover. But it was my birthday, so we went away for a weekend. Yeah, we had a blast up in uh old gunquit, Maine. Turned into a week, yeah. Then we decided to just go down the coast, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:54

Yeah, it was it was nice. You know what was nice too that um Danielle came to visit with her friend, yeah, you know, that was a lot of fun. I'll tell you, um her friend, what was her name?

SPEAKER_05 2:07

Her friend's name was Marissa.

SPEAKER_07 2:09

Marissa. Yes, do you remember her climbing the rocks? Yeah, she was out of her mouth. She was scaling them, yeah. Holy Christ, with like no socks. I'm like, oh shoes, careful, please don't fall.

SPEAKER_05 2:20

No, that was a good time. That was a good time. It was a nice way to celebrate my 51st birthday. Happy birthday. 5'1. You know, that was two weeks ago, yeah. But um, you know, it's it's interesting to see people on vacation because man, like, and even though it was still the off season, which is nice because there's fewer people, it's not as expensive, you know, early June, kids are still in school. Right. I don't know how people were on vacation that early, but I was kind of hoping that it wasn't as crazy, still kind of crazy. Yeah, you know, yeah, but pride was early this year because of the World Cup.

SPEAKER_07 2:56

Yeah, and we we were up in Ogonquid uh you know, uh that Saturday, the kickoff up there in Maine. We were on the front porch upstairs there, and uh man, that was a lively bunch. That was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it over there.

SPEAKER_05 3:12

I didn't want to leave. But Ogonquit is small, you know. You kind of have to go, okay, I'm done now. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

In a few days, let's three or four days, five at max. This is fine up there, you know.

SPEAKER_05 3:22

So the weather's gotten better, but the fuckery of people I I don't understand why are people so fucking entitled, man.

SPEAKER_07 3:33

It's you know, well, like I don't get personally they're listening to too much fucking news. They really are no, I think this is how people always have been. Yeah, but there's a lot of good going on out there right now, you know? There's a lot of good going on, and and um, you know, like I I've taken myself away from the news and just like it went down the the Scottish rabbit hole. Yeah, and you know, watching the I'm I got into it, man. Like uh it felt like world peace for a while is going on. Everybody's in harmony and things that you know, yeah. And like um didn't hear fucking Trump's name or or or voice for a while.

SPEAKER_05 4:13

Well, we were ignoring it for a while because we've been paying attention to the Scottish Pride Month and all this stuff.

SPEAKER_07 4:20

Yeah, you see how much happier people can be if you just stay away from that fucking asshole.

SPEAKER_05 4:24

I mean, hey, you know, happy Pride Month, everyone.

SPEAKER_07 4:27

Yeah, happy pride.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

Um, and even though I mean we didn't attend Boston Pride because it was the same time as well gunquid, and we decided to do that because it was gonna be, you know, fewer people, not as crazy. But I kind of wished I stayed in Boston because it was more like I guess it got back to its roots of being a protest. Yeah. Right. Because if we remember, Pride didn't start out happy, right? Because it was really about fighting for your rights at one time, you know. And I kind of feel that it's going back to that again. Um, I know you're trying to stay positive, but hey, you know, it is what it is. We're learning stuff here, you know. And so, you know, June became Pride Month because of the Stonewall Uprising, right? Because it happened in June of 69. Okay. And um, you know, there was a huge liberation march that happened. And in 1970, uh, it was in Manhattan in New York City. Uh, that was their one year to commemorate the anniversary of Stonewall. Okay. Um, so it I feel it's going back to that because we've regressed, you know, how the trans rights are being taken away. Um, and now they're coming for, you know, equality in marriage as well. Right. And I did say this from the beginning how we need to pay attention, right? We need to give a shit about that one percent of the population that is being demonized and having their rights taken away because now it's coming for us. You know, so pride, not all that happy. I think we need to go back to our roots and remind people that, hey, you know, yeah, yeah, like wake up, your rights are being taken away as we speak. And there are a lot of groups out there that are um coming after us, you know, plenty of them. And that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_07 6:31

Yeah, you know. Well, you know, that's gonna happen. And it happens with every group, you know. You have your pros and cons, you have your, you know, the people that uh go against you and the people that are for you. And that's with with any any any group, you know.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

But remember it all started with you know that riot, right? That fighting back started from a black trans woman. Yeah. Okay. So, and that's what started it all. All right. So we have much to thank the trans community for. Um, and uh don't forget about them, you know, have them in your mind.

SPEAKER_07 7:07

Do you think there's there's a big change in trans today from from years ago? You know, be you know, because people are like literally transgending physically. You mean uh their body, you know. Transitioning.

SPEAKER_05 7:25

Yeah, yeah. I mean that I think the idea was always there. It's just come a long way. Yeah, right. It's it's a lot different now, right? You know, because now we have medical ways of doing this, surgical ways.

SPEAKER_07 7:37

Yeah, and and and you know, the trans, you know, out of out of the, you know, with the um they're they're they're in the spotlight more than any other gay group. You know, they really are uh you know, on account of that, you know.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

But you know, I'm not I'm not feeling quite patriotic. Yeah, yeah. Neither am I. You know, seriously. Everybody, not I don't know if everybody is, but you know, there's a lot of talk of the oh, you know, the 250th birthday of America, and you know, and then there's Pride Month. I'm not feeling it. I'm just gonna feel like I need to be fighting more.

SPEAKER_07 8:14

I Carlos, I was around for the 200th, right? The bicentennial. Yeah, you know, I was a year old. Yeah, but but the feeling back then was so much like pride in America and joy and happiness, and people were together and and there was a lot going on, you know. Well, you know, there wasn't any fighting going on. There was a lot of good back then, you know. The first time the tall ships ever came, you know, to Boston, and it was unbelievable. Like the feeling the you know, in the air, the atmosphere was unreal, you know, and I don't feel that for the 250th. No, you know, it's it's really it's like no big fucking deal. It's sad. It is sad. It is sad. It is sad.

SPEAKER_05 9:03

It's it's not um it I don't want to say that I'm ashamed of being American because I'm not. I'm ashamed of what's going on, what the administration is doing, what's going down in this country. It's quite a disappointment, you know, our administration right now and y how people are being squeezed every day. It's unreal. I I it's it's very hard to ignore. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 9:30

Right? You know, and and um, you know, with the administration, man, you know, like the war, you know, is coming hopefully coming to an end. But um supposedly they struck a deal. Yeah. But but he made a mess out of things. He really did, you know, like he the United States had to back off because we had, you know, in order to for Trump to win this fucking war, he would have to capture the the Straits of Omoose. Let's let's back up. We'd lost. Yeah, absolutely. We'd lost absolutely lost.

SPEAKER_05 10:06

And I tried to make and I did ask the question like, is this like Vietnam? Yeah, how we thought we can just walk in and fucking take over, yeah, and then got our asses handed to us.

SPEAKER_07 10:18

Yeah. And we wasted so much military power as far as so much money. Money, missiles. We're we're we're completely out of missiles. Like, you know, the way the Scottish drank up Boston is the way we went through fucking missiles. Yeah. And they're saying it's gonna take years to replenish. And not only that, China knows our capabilities. Or the lack thereof. The lack of, yeah, like like we couldn't get it done. If we sent any battleships, you know, uh close to the shores of Tehran, forget about it. They would have blown us out of the water because they had hidden missiles ready for us. And, you know, the only way the United States would have won that war, it would have had to be boots on the ground. That's it. That's the only way. That's the only way. And and he's out there, Trump's out there yelling, yo uh, we decapitated, then we destroyed them, we oblivated them. Obliterated. Yeah, fucking, but you did not.

SPEAKER_05 11:21

We did not. That was propaganda. That was all lies.

SPEAKER_07 11:24

And now they're talking about giving them hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to build the place up.

SPEAKER_05 11:31

And so our friend Fabienne made it, she made this connection today that you know, um, Trump signed that treaty in Versailles with Macron in in Paris. Wait, who? Macron, the president in France. Yeah, um, they went to Versailles, which is an opulent castle or whatever, and you know, yeah, it's beautiful. I've been there, I've seen it, you know, it's very garish. You know, it's just it's beautiful, right? You know, and um same thing happened when the Germans had to sign off on their defeat in World War One. Really? You know, it's like, wow, wow, what a way to admit your loss without actually admitting it. Yeah, right. And the thing, the thing that, and I was just responding to the headlines, like, oh, they're in Versailles, this is what they're doing. But then I actually read an article from AP News, and it just sounded like Trump was being, you know, uh shown the richness and the opulence, it was all that pomp involved. Yeah, you know, right up his alley. And that's just it. Yeah, right. You're this narcissistic fucking asshole who needs to be treated like an emperor or a king in order to be convinced to sign the fucking deal. Yeah, which the in a war that you started without consulting anyone else, you did this, and then you expected everyone to come help you, right? Right. And you're forcing everyone's hand because now your economies are all fucked because of us. Yep. The world is fucked because of us. Yeah, he fucked everything up big time, and things were kind of working all right, you know, just leave it alone and then kind of negotiate your stuff, right? But this threat of nuclear war, nuclear weapon, and just like we said in a previous podcast, like the only way to change anything was to have boots on the ground. We cannot we couldn't have done it the way we were doing it, right? Right, and there was no way to do that, you know. You think those plans to create a nuclear weapon were taken away? No, that shit is uploaded in the cloud somewhere. Oh, yeah. I mean, come on, wake the fuck up, yeah, right. All of that nuclear dust or whatever leftover shit that they have, it's still there, they can still fucking rebuild. Oh, yeah, right. And they will, and they will, and the the IRGC is on top of it. That's the Iranian army, right? They understand. And what I've learned recently too about Iran is that they, you know, politically, it's not like these, and this might come out the wrong way. It's not like these other countries who are run by families for a long time, you know, like 30 plus years, 40 plus years by leaders who are aging out, right? You know, yeah, um, that have no business running anything at this point. Yeah, right. They are actually, you know, a younger generation of Armenians who are running the show now. So, I mean, look at the Lego films that they created with AI, yeah, okay, with rap lyrics, you know, with catchy beats. Yeah, how are they doing that? Because they're younger, they're they're paying attention to what grabs our attention. Yeah, okay. They outsmarted us. No doubt. Okay. So here we here's the deal. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 14:57

So now you know what it is. The the young Americans, they can give two fucking shits about the war. They really don't care. They do care because they're getting squeezed.

SPEAKER_05 15:07

Well, in in what way? Well, for example, right now, um, student loans are back in repayment. You know, they're they've killed a lot of plans where people can afford to pay their student loans, and those plans are going away. Yeah. And their payments are doubling, or if they're in forbearance, they're being forced to pay back that money now. And they have zero fucks.

SPEAKER_07 15:31

Right. But um personally, I think that like young Americans don't want anything to do with government. They really don't. You know, they they they're they don't want anything to do with it. They And why do you think that is? They have no pride in the country.

SPEAKER_05 15:47

Well, no, because the government failed them.

SPEAKER_07 15:49

Yeah, yeah, they wasn't focused on their own. They lost, you know, they lost faith in the world. Focused in their well-being, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:56

You're not getting jobs out there. If anything, AI is taking away jobs, right? There was a promise that there was going to create more jobs, and we're gonna get into that too, because wow, the things that I was picking up about AI, I didn't know. But back to the Iran deal really quick. So I saw on Reddit the difference between the Obama deal and the Trump deal, okay, when it came to Iran. So Obama had to unfreeze 1.7 billion, okay, for for the so they had their funds, okay. Trump has to unfreeze 100 billion. That was part of the deal that he just signed today. Really? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 16:40

We're giving Tehran a hundred billion.

SPEAKER_05 16:43

Well, they're gonna unfreeze whatever funds they had that they had access to already, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 16:48

That's go that's all that's not gonna go to their people. That's gonna that's gonna go into into their government.

SPEAKER_05 16:56

Yeah, they're gonna have nukes now. That's just I think so they're gonna load their pockets also. So Obama deal, no nukes, which was in writing with independent inspectors and penalties for violation in the Trump deal, just no nukes in writing. So now there's no oversight. Okay, we're just gonna take their word for it. All right. Obama deal, Strait of Hormuz is open. The Trump deal, Strait of Hormuz open first 60 days only. Then there's gonna be tolls. Now they're gonna start charging. Who is Iran? Really? Yes, all right. So Obama deal, sanctions on Iran, and then the Trump deal, all the sanctions got lifted. Do you see how we got fucked? Okay, and now the Obama deal, you have the hardline supreme leader, and then in the Trump deal, hardline supreme leader replaced with younger, more hardline son. See, so this generation, right? They're younger, they're smarter, you know. They're not just so, you know, there's not just one root group.

SPEAKER_07 18:01

Oh, yeah, old school.

SPEAKER_05 18:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and the people are very involved in it too. You know, they speak up, they you know, they have some sort of say, they listen, right? Um, so an Obama deal, no war needed to achieve okay, this deal. And in this war with Trump, 15 Americans dead, 550 Americans injured, gas prices have skyrocketed, tens of billions spent on war.

SPEAKER_07 18:28

So, can we back up for a second? So now the son is in charge, right? I believe so. So we we because we we killed his dad. Yep. You don't think he's got a grudge against the United States of America? Absolutely. Absolutely. There's he wants to nuke us, but it goes deeper than that. He wants to nuke us.

SPEAKER_05 18:47

I think they would probably, I don't know, eye eye on Israel first.

SPEAKER_07 18:52

If if somebody killed my dad and I had a nuclear weapon, I'm gonna use it on that fucking country.

SPEAKER_05 19:01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 19:02

Absolutely not the case.

SPEAKER_05 19:03

You know, they need to but think about it. They need to fucking think about it. They need to fucking get their act together.

SPEAKER_07 19:08

Yeah, you know, and and and so so now, believe me, we're gonna revisit Iran someday.

SPEAKER_05 19:16

Yeah, we are so in during the Obama's period, we stood up to Iran. Uh and during Trump, Iran knows they can survive war with the USA. And unfortunately, this is much like the Ukraine is stronger for surviving the war with Russia, right? When everyone else thought they were just gonna be taken over within weeks, right?

SPEAKER_07 19:37

But once once the US figures out how to dismantle the the the hidden bunkers in the caves where the missiles are, that's that's what's keeping us from from taking over. Once we figure out where they are and how to destroy them, we're gonna do it. What if Trump is in power? If Trump is if he's not in power, we're not gonna touch it.

SPEAKER_05 20:01

Why the tuck why the takeover? What is happening? There was no nuclear weapon, there was not this is this is the problem with America. This is our thinking, you know, that we are the biggest biggest dick on the fucking planet that we can just swing around and just take over places, you know? No, you gotta work with people. You cannot, you gotta have a better foreign policy.

SPEAKER_07 20:22

But uh I I clearly remember in Tehran when they took all the hostages, and night after night, they were showing them with their hands in the air that to America. Okay, it it's it's in it's it's seared in your mind it is. Okay, it's scared into well it you don't think it's seared into some of my minds.

SPEAKER_05 20:42

I don't know for a fact.

SPEAKER_07 20:43

Well, well, if it if it wasn't, it is now. We destroyed their country, we we we decapitated uh their leader, took them right out of the picture, we we killed family members again, again, the big swinging dick. They hate us, they hate us, so they want to kill us.

SPEAKER_05 21:00

Don't think that what you just said, okay. The last part of this deal, okay, during Obama, there were no reparations, okay, and now during Trump, his deal, $300 billion in reparations in their fund. Okay. So Republicans claim that this will be funded by other countries, lies because other countries had nothing to do with this war. Okay. Uh, but the wording says it will come from the US and other countries. Um, so other countries are supposed to contribute, I guess, but I don't think that's gonna happen. Um, so where's that money coming from? Taxpayers, yeah, exactly. And he's still gonna continue to build his ballroom, probably. You know, he's gonna want his fucking arc, you know, all this other bullshit. Right, right. But the US taxpayer money will be required to do this, is what's gonna end up happening. Yeah, so what else is it's like billions here, hundreds of billions there. Yeah, it's tens of billions over like. Where is all this coming from? Yeah. Us. Yeah. Okay. And that's why younger Americans are pissed. No, absolutely. Right? Because they're being squeezed. Yep. And this is another example. Not just a student loan example that I came with.

SPEAKER_07 22:12

I don't even think they're paying attention to it. I really don't.

SPEAKER_05 22:15

Absolutely they are. They are absolutely because they're getting squeezed. You don't think that they're gonna you don't think that did they notice that they're being squeezed every day?

SPEAKER_07 22:25

No. I truly think that uh, you know, they're they're too busy and they on their uh fucking Instagrams and Facebook pages and going out drinking and you know.

SPEAKER_05 22:35

I don't doubt that. Yeah, don't doubt that.

SPEAKER_07 22:38

Um, but still it's uh so into social media, it isn't funny.

SPEAKER_05 22:42

You know, it's a mess. It's a mess. You know, and I don't know how America is gonna recover from something like this. Um, anyway, on a more happier, you are obsessing.

SPEAKER_07 22:55

You know who I blame all this on? What? Bill Gates. He should have never invented the fucking computer, the internet.

SPEAKER_05 23:04

I don't think he was responsible for the internet. The internet was established in 79-ish, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 23:12

But um, seriously, the the internet destroyed the world. It really did. It has its good and bad, but you know, people can you know learn how to do anything on it, you know? It was meant to now AI, forget about it.

SPEAKER_05 23:27

It was meant to increase communication and make lives easier, but instead you have millionaires who you know capitalized on it. Oh, yeah. Right? I mean, it goes so many levels, but on a happier note, your obsession with the Scottish invasion.

SPEAKER_07 23:44

Oh my god. Okay. Um see now I I was feeling good, right? Joyous, happy, free. And now we start start talking about all the fucking bullshit that we just talked about.

SPEAKER_05 23:56

Oh, we weren't supposed to do it in that order, but it just felt that way.

SPEAKER_07 24:00

It's been so happy around here in Boston. It has been. Unbelievable. Did you see that video? So which one? The video of the bagpipe player with a street bucket drummer. That one's cool. Unbelievable. It was very brilliant. Brilliant. I think I sent it to you. Can you find that? And and let have uh listeners hear that. That's amazing. That is pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_04 24:27

But just to start us off, 40,000 noisy tourists to drink your beer and clog your bars is not normally any city's idea of a good time. And yet, it's happening in Boston, and the city is loving it. The Scottish have arrived to cheer on their first World Cup appearance of this millennium, and it didn't get off to a perfect start. We run out of the beer.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

That's my only complaint.

SPEAKER_04 24:54

But within the Scots had won their opening match, and their fans were marching in kilts, spilling out of bars, and even showing up at a Red Sox game, belting out that one big hit of the Scottish proclaimer.

SPEAKER_07 25:12

I can't fully explain what's happening here, but it bears in a little over an hour.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

Last week, the sound of bagpipes at 6 30 a.m. alerted him to what he calls a remote Scotland set up at a rental across the street. One week later, after many beers and a cookout, Boston Mike is now cheering on Team Scotland. What do you think the takeaway in all this is?

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Make sure to pay attention to the fun stuff. Uh, don't be afraid to step outside your comfort zone, meet new people, get a bit silly. Uh, you know, I've certainly embarrassed myself enough over the past few days, so I'm willing to give it a shot if others will.

SPEAKER_04 25:52

And others have. Most of the city, it seems, amid reports, Boston's bars have been running low on beer. The Scots are apparently loving it.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

That made a card. We didn't know as the made a card, we promised we could not be made if you're more welcome.

SPEAKER_04 26:11

In the end, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Story, old as time. The door opens, the beer flows, and before long you're all cheering for the same team. That's life. 40 That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_07 26:22

Sam Adams, the brewery, uh, and the distributor, like they they all they ran out of beer.

SPEAKER_05 26:30

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_07 26:31

And they said that you know, like Boston, it's it's like four or five times the party, like a St. Patrick's Day. You know, like the the beer just went, like nobody's seen the likes of it.

SPEAKER_05 26:42

Yeah, what's been great is that they're not like trashing the place when they're drunk.

SPEAKER_07 26:46

Well, no, from what we've heard, right? No, well, you know something? They they they did something on the Boston Common. And um, you know, obviously you got a bunch of people around, and you know, it's gonna get messy. They cleaned up the entire common, they cleaned their own mess. It's so respectful. The whole thing is. It's unreal. Everywhere they go, they clean their mess.

SPEAKER_05 27:09

They've been an absolute joy to have the city.

SPEAKER_07 27:12

I mean, I've I've been to times on Boston, it takes the city three days to clean it up.

SPEAKER_05 27:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:17

You know, but but they they've they were very respectful. Like they, you know, they they they they cleaned it, but uh like during the party, they they're using the trash barrels.

SPEAKER_05 27:27

Yeah, you know, yeah, and everybody loves partying with them.

SPEAKER_07 27:31

Yeah, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:32

I know one of the nurses last night was telling me, like, oh yeah, I hung out with them in Salem. Like they were saying that they're up in Salem and maybe in Wakefield because it's too expensive to stay in Boston, right? So they're they have to other subscriptions. They're in all the subroads. So um we're probably gonna hit that party tomorrow.

SPEAKER_07 27:52

Yeah, yeah, you know, get getting back to they're playing tomorrow. So yeah, tomorrow night. Um, but get getting back to the uh the drummer in the bagpipe guy, what a beautiful backdrop it was. Uh they were playing on a street corner, and behind them it just so happened to be the old Massachusetts State House. Yeah, and it was just so picturesque. And like if you were to read all the comments, you know, people saying, what a brilliant collaboration, you know, and it was just nice to listen to. It was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05 28:25

It was a nice mashup. So that that drummer's always been there on the street, right? Yeah, that street drummer with his uh bucket drum.

SPEAKER_07 28:32

He had no idea what was going, what was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 28:34

Or it's gonna go down, but they I guess they just started jamming, right?

SPEAKER_07 28:38

Yep, yep. It's so fun.

SPEAKER_06 28:55

I love it.

SPEAKER_07 28:56

Both of those guys are gonna go down in history. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 29:05

I love how he's just jumping with his backputt. Unreal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:12

I just love it. That was wild, wild. And you see him dancing and he's just jamming with his backputting. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:20

And he goes, bringing, bringing the tone to the bottom. But they're both like, look at the they just made it work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:26

And you know, you know what was nice, Carlos? The drummer was a black dude, you know, and it was just it was nice. And he, you know, you know, because Boston, you know, there's a lot of racial tension going on, you know.

SPEAKER_05 29:38

Always has been.

SPEAKER_07 29:39

Yeah, yeah. And and for the two worlds, uh, especially, you know, um, you know, like the Irish, you know, with with Salty, you know, in the blacks back in the day, and and um, it was just a pleasure to see, you know, it really was.

SPEAKER_05 29:54

Absolutely was very fun to watch. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:58

God bless them.

SPEAKER_05 29:58

And I hope that relationship stays. I really do. I hope they visit Boston all the time.

SPEAKER_07 30:04

Yeah. Well, you know, they they they they're talking about um having uh a Scotland day like every two or three years. It'd be great. Yeah, that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

Everybody would want them here, yeah. Like if they could bring this party all the time.

SPEAKER_07 30:17

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_05 30:18

That'd be pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_07 30:19

It won't be this magnitude ever again. No, you know, no, it won't. I mean, we I mean, if they make it a thing, it could be, right? Well, I mean, I don't know if you're gonna get 30. That World Cup, you know, brings people from all over. Yeah. It really does. So we'll hit that tomorrow. Yeah, but let's continue on for this. Now they play tomorrow night. And then it's Morocco. Yeah, yeah. But then uh we have the English coming in, and the Scots are going to Miami because their next game is in Miami. Oh wow. So they're gonna do the same thing in Miami, and Miami's more of a party town, I think.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 30:59

But I think it's not gonna be as cool as Boston because Boston is a backdrop with the history here and and its people. You know, there's a lot of transients in in Miami, you know.

SPEAKER_05 31:11

It's I think you just want to say that because you don't you want to keep them for yourself.

SPEAKER_07 31:15

No, no, but but we you you'll see. You are obsessed because you'll you'll see it's not gonna be the same in Miami.

SPEAKER_05 31:22

You were like creating kilts through an AI, a picture of you in a kilt. You're doing all this stuff. I'm like, what are you doing? Like, you could install, and then you were like, Oh, let's get kilts to wear for tomorrow.

SPEAKER_07 31:37

They're gonna party down there, but I don't think the the people in Miami are gonna like party with them the way the people in Boston did.

SPEAKER_05 31:44

Well, let's see, because they are seeing what's happening here, so they just might be open to it.

SPEAKER_07 31:48

Yeah, but you don't have the the neighborhoods in in Miami like you have here in Boston, you know, it's it's different, it's different, it's just a different vibe for real.

SPEAKER_05 31:58

No, but you suggested kilts, and I was like, no, we can't like you can wear a kilt if you want, but I I will not be. No, I'm not wearing a kilt. No, because I'm just gonna be like a gay dude in a kilt, yeah, in a dress. You're right. Wearing a dress.

SPEAKER_07 32:13

I'm gonna be a stupid looking guinea, you know. I'm like, this doesn't go.

SPEAKER_05 32:18

Like, yeah, so yeah, gay man in a dress during Pride Month. Um we're good. Fucking plaid dress. Yeah, no, it's not a good look for me, so I won't be rocking that at all. Um, but speaking of AI, do you love your AI?

SPEAKER_07 32:34

Uh yeah, well, you know something? You can ask it anything, and you know, it's it's it's informative. You get an instant answer, you know, and and it's you know, I utilize it differently.

SPEAKER_05 32:46

And it's and it's not just any answer like a search engine, you know. Yeah, it gives you back in a conversation. Yeah, right? Yeah, it's amazing. It really does amazing things mind boggling, but there's a dark side to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There really is that I was not super aware of. Yeah, because we have problems with AI at the college, and I think every college is having problems with it. School, probably high schools, you know, like for example, we have students who rely on AI to write their papers and things like that. We've had to come up with policies this year on how to combat that.

SPEAKER_07 33:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

And I don't discourage its use because I don't think it's going to stop. There's no way to stop this train now. It's already started moving. Okay. But there has to be ways to regulate it. Yeah. There has to be ways that people start using their own brains again rather than relying on AI. Because what I'm also teaching students is that AI can be wrong. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And one of the things that we started doing, you know, like, yeah, use AI to clean up your paper, but it's gotta sound like you. You still have to put the work into it. You still need to research it.

SPEAKER_07 34:01

You have to put it into layman's terms, you know. You do.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

So I've created assignments where it involved, like, for example, you know, a patient case because AI can create a new patient that never existed, but but it will be false.

unknown 34:14

Right.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Right. So the requirements that I would have them do, um, they would have to defend their paper verbally if I had questions. Yeah. And then instantly I would already know if they can't verbally defend what they wrote, you then you didn't do the fucking work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:32

Right. At the end of the day.

SPEAKER_05 34:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:34

Explain it to me in your in your words. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

And a lot of them can't.

SPEAKER_07 34:39

And I'm like, okay, so you didn't do the whole work. Yeah. Well, you know something? You're cheating yourself. You are cheating yourself. But it's of an education that you're paying for. But it's tricky, right?

SPEAKER_05 34:50

It's tricky because, you know, in in fields like nursing, yes, research is important, right? Because it is what makes us a profession. You know, how we are researching new ways of caring for patients or preventing illness and things like that, how to manage chronic illness. A lot of that research, yes, physicians are involved, but nurses are heavily involved in that too, right? Especially when we're the ones who are driving a patient's care at the hospital. Right. Okay, managing their care and everything. Because things change, right? Things get worse if you don't take care of the patient. You know, there's a lot of work involved. And a lot of that comes from, you know, evidence-based practice. Okay. And when students don't understand how to research or create research and allow AI to do all of this for them, that's where things get, you know, hairy. Right. You're not developing new research. Now you're develop you're developing a way to tell AI how to create your research.

SPEAKER_07 35:51

And and you know, and their lack of knowledge on what they're supposed to be learning, um, it can involve people's lives. You don't and you don't improve.

SPEAKER_05 36:00

Yeah, you can kill somebody. Exactly. You can absolutely kill someone. And like I said, AI can be wrong. And there is a difference between AI and a search engine, because I was because you know how people are like, oh, I can Google this, right? But now Google, when you're searching, has an AI mode, right? So it's more conversational, right? It gives you back information. Yeah. And the whole thing about like for my under if I understood this correctly, AI basically, you know, can be taught, okay, and learns who you are in a conversation. Yeah. You know, and it learns what you look up. Okay. Yep. And it takes all the information that's available in all human knowledge to try to bring, you know, an answer to you. Right. Okay. Where a search engine is different because a search engine is basically uh going to like going to the library. So it gives you those books. Yeah. And then you have to look up those things yourself. Right. Like look actually dig into the books or dig into the articles that the search engine finds for you.

SPEAKER_07 37:07

You know what's you know what's cool is you know, when you go to Google, you can always look up, you know, your Google history. But AI is also uh AI history. Keeps track of your conversations. Yeah, of everything that you you looked up AI, you know, which it which is cool, you know.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

And it is amazing, but again, you know, I learned recently about all this craziness with AI because I did hear in passing, I'm like, oh, you know, AI not good for the environment. Um it's particularly bad for water. Okay. And a few weeks ago, um here's uh AOC.

SPEAKER_09 37:52

This is the current drinking water in Morgan County, Georgia.

SPEAKER_05 37:58

It's brown water.

SPEAKER_09 37:59

Right after a data center was constructed, the metadata center was constructed. The only difference between the clean water and this was that data center. I have another one as well. So this wasn't just one well. These wasn't just one family's water is even darker in this situation. This is what the drinking water now looks like next to that data center. And I think both of us can agree that neither one of these things are drinkable. These families now have to ship in a rural area, have to ship water to their house in order to cook and bathe themselves. Um now I'm curious if the EPA plans any investigations on how data centers are affecting water quality and availability. I understand what you said about the rule, but are there going to be any open investigations on this issue?

SPEAKER_08 38:53

So as soon as I get back to the office, I will I will be looking into exactly what you've just talked about because anywhere, um, whether it is whether whatever type of construction it is, it is a priority to ensure that water quality standards established by EPA um are being met. And so we'll be looking into that uh certainly. Thank you. I I sincerely appreciate that.

SPEAKER_07 39:14

They should be shut down immediately.

SPEAKER_05 39:16

Yeah. How is it that the EPA does not know that this is happening?

SPEAKER_07 39:21

They don't know.

SPEAKER_05 39:22

They need to be they do now paying attention.

SPEAKER_07 39:25

Yeah, right. They just didn't know that you know that that this thing, uh the data center creates that.

SPEAKER_05 39:33

Well, it's bullshit. They should be on top of any government project that's being developed, right?

SPEAKER_07 39:40

Right, but eventually you have to find out.

SPEAKER_05 39:43

So I'm also learning that that a lot of these rural communities are being targeted because um the land is well, I mean it's rural, it's away from everything. Yeah, I think that's one reason. But another reason is a lot of of these landowners are not rich, yeah, right? They don't have the type of wealth to sustain farms and all that stuff, especially with the way things are going now. Yeah, and so these agencies are going to, or these billionaires, these companies are gonna show up, offer a lot of money, you know. I would do the same thing, and uh and they'll take the buyout. Yeah, I would do the same thing, and then communities are now paying attention because they're seeing that this is happening, you know, and one of the videos that I saw was uh of you know, houses around a data center. There's a continuous hum at night, loud, high-pitched hum from these data centers running all night long, all day long, 24-7. Wow. Like, do you think they're gonna be able to sell their place? So not only is it polluting the water, it's also polluting the noise, right? The noise pollution, the environment, okay, overall. So that was you know, AOC doing her Aaron Brockovich moment, right?

SPEAKER_07 41:06

Now, how did she find out?

SPEAKER_05 41:08

How did you know because people are probably reporting this to their elected officials, right? Right. And so it's gone higher up to Congress, okay.

SPEAKER_07 41:18

And we never had, and they're like, we never had this until they moved in. No, you know, that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_05 41:24

Yeah, and did you see that water? Like, I wouldn't fucking drink that. I wouldn't abandon it. And that's coming out of their water. That's coming out of their plumbing, right? And why is that? So, what I've learned also is that with these data centers, like it suctions water out. So, first of all, when you build, right, you're disrupting the earth. All of that goes into whatever water supplies around, whether it's in the groundwater or whatever on the area. So that is gonna further pollute the water, right, with the sediment that's that they're digging up. And also these data centers require so much water to cool down these systems. So they have these suction like like vacuums that suck in the water and all the dirt that comes with it.

SPEAKER_07 42:17

So so so they need water. Are they using the breath? I bet you they can't use that dirty water. They can't. I think there's a way that they have to like filter it somewhere. Yeah, they must be filtering, so that's what they're gonna have to do, but they're gonna have to filter the entire town.

SPEAKER_05 42:32

Well, they gotta filter in, but they should be filtering out as well.

SPEAKER_07 42:36

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 42:36

Okay, yep. And these data centers, from my understanding, they get so hot. Okay, they get so hot that, for example, in Utah, there's an AI data center data center uh that produces heat equivalent to 23 atomic bombs every day, and it spans 40,000 acres and consumes more power than the entire state. Holy shit. That's just one data center. Okay, can you imagine the heat equivalent to 23 atomic bombs? And so they're using that water, okay?

SPEAKER_07 43:10

And so is this heat going out into the atmosphere?

SPEAKER_05 43:14

Well, it it can, but the thing is, if it's too hot, the system will overheat and it's gonna burn out, right? So that water has to cool off these data centers like in order for them to sustain. But think about this if it's that hot, that water is gonna boil and vaporize. So not so whatever's coming in is not always gonna be coming out either. Okay, so you get rid of that water, you have more of that sediment, and that gets pushed out into the public drinking water. That's kind of my understanding of it, which I think is disgusting.

SPEAKER_07 43:48

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 43:49

Okay, and that and this is gonna keep it.

SPEAKER_07 43:51

It's an environmental disaster.

SPEAKER_05 43:53

It is an environmental disaster. Uh, Michigan, there's a data center in Michigan too. Okay, so every Every time we use AI, it contributes to this mess. And I don't know what other way to to to deal with, you know. I don't think anyone is the way. But here's one person in Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Um I'm back in Michigan and I'm north of a bunch of data centers. And the water here, all those miles north from where I am from those data centers, is brown. There's brown water in the toilets, brown water in the sinks, brown data center water.

unknown 44:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

That it blew my mind. It blew my mind. It is no myth. And these these these people have to just deal with that. No. With their water just being brown? Once again, crimes against humanity, these are basic human rights. Because you best believe I'm gonna say stay stinky today because I can't shower in that. No way.

SPEAKER_07 44:49

Do you remember there was a guy who gave the United States like billions and billions? Remember Trump? He had all those guys on stage. All those. Do you remember that? And they were giving you know America money, all the rich people. There was a guy from overseas who gave like 300 billion to America. And they were and and and Trump is saying, and they're gonna build beautiful AI. AI, we're gonna be number one.

SPEAKER_05 45:17

That was at the beginning of his presidency.

SPEAKER_07 45:19

I remember was that with North Korea or something?

SPEAKER_05 45:22

Yeah, some I can't remember. But or Japan.

SPEAKER_07 45:30

It all is about money.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

Yeah, Trump, you know what I mean? Like so you have AI doing this damage to the environment. Okay. So not only is it doing that, but it's also taking away jobs, right? So your jobs that you know that were being done by people are now being taken over by artificial intelligence. Yeah. So Trump sold us out. He sold us out. Yeah. And I was kind of fooled by it too, because I was like, oh, I guess we should invest in that. But I didn't realize that this was happening.

SPEAKER_07 46:01

Yeah. So $300 billion, right? That is nothing to what he's gonna make with these centers. Yeah. So it's really like a big misconception.

SPEAKER_05 46:13

So here's another one where Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Meta. Okay. Um, so this guy here talks about um a data center in New Mexico. This is wild.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

All right, folks. I'm currently standing in the Rio Grande River right now. This is what it looks like, right here, all dirt.

SPEAKER_05 46:33

That's supposed to be the river. Whoa. Dr. Water used to be.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

We're looking at an environmental catastrophe, what this is. The new meta data center in Los Lunas, New Mexico, takes 75 million gallons per year to cool down the data center. And this is what we're left with.

SPEAKER_05 46:56

It's completely amazing.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Another data center is being built in El Paso right now, a Facebook meta data center. How much more water is that gonna take? This is gonna be, folks, this is apocalyptic. This is I've never seen a river like this. By this time of the year, it's you you couldn't even swim in this. It would take you under the the uh undercurrent would take you out. This is unbelievable. No more water. So, what does that mean for the farmland, the ranch lands, the cattle? And they're in the middle of the desert. I mean, are they soon gonna start moving people out of this area? It looks like are they gonna start moving people out of here to what 15 minutes cities? You're not gonna be able to survive out here? What's gonna happen to the agriculture?

SPEAKER_05 47:41

Used to flow through there. What's gonna happen to the egos?

SPEAKER_01 47:45

We've never seen anything like this before. I'm sounding the alarm bells. This has never before happened. I've never seen it like this. Bone dry. Bone dry.

unknown 47:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

All of it. Unbelievable. Uh better write your congressman because these politicians are as corrupt as they come, all getting paid off for this. So what do you mean we're gonna trade out humanity for AI so they can track and trace you better? They're gonna train the ocean someday. Well, it looks like to me, Trump is taking down the deep state, right? He's going after Obama, he's going after everybody, but he's replacing it with AI, with AI data centers, ruining the environment.

SPEAKER_05 48:25

Yeah, see, zero fucks for the people. Wow, yeah, unbelievable. That's sad. When I was in New Mexico ten years ago, that was a that was filled with water. Wow. Flowing down.

SPEAKER_07 48:37

Yeah, people must be like, what happened? Oh my god. Yeah, and now it's completely dry. Well, you know, just think about it, right? They're they're gonna find a way to suck the water from the ocean.

SPEAKER_05 48:51

And the thing is, like, you know, the the next big war is gonna be over water. I'm telling you, you know, oil is gonna be a thing of the past. We need water, yeah, right, to survive, right? Okay, to as as as humans, as a fucking species, okay, you need water to survive, you know. That's your your or your organism, right? You are an animal that requires water, right? Because without well, after three days, you know, you can die. Yeah, you will probably die, right? So, yeah, and and you we can't just drink any water, it's gotta be clean water, yeah, and there's none to be had. Okay, so not only is clean water disappearing, water in general is disappearing. And I didn't know. Holy shit, and these fucking assholes like Sam Altman. Like Sam Altman wants to start billing AI like utilities, like your water bill and your electric bill. Really? Yes, he's like, but this is why the greed has no fucking bounds because he said people may soon have to pay metered bills for AI, just like electricity, water, and Wi-Fi. Holy shit. Unfucking real. You see, and you and you're asking me how like young people don't notice. Oh, they do because this is affecting them.

SPEAKER_07 50:15

They yeah, they don't know about this.

SPEAKER_05 50:17

I I didn't know about this, and this is why I'm like talking about it today because this is so this has already started. Where's the regulation for any of this? There is none. There is none, and I and I can't really discourage its use and pretend that it's not happening, you know.

SPEAKER_07 50:35

Yeah, um, you can't even you know something, like none of this is gonna be investigated. It it's a free-for-all. It didn't it it is a free-for-all worldwide, worldwide is a free-for-all. It's sad, it is really sad, and I don't know you know generations to come, man.

SPEAKER_05 50:54

They're in trouble. Yeah, well, for the for starters, there will be no water. How will you survive? Yeah, and I saw one post that China what they do is that they put their AI in the ocean. What the fuck? They put the AI it goes underwater, yeah. They put it underwater. Um, so it says here in this post They are so far ahead of us. You know, uh, there's a tech company, they sunk 1300 tons of AI servers into the ocean that are operating right now.

SPEAKER_07 51:26

Wow, okay, so like yeah, the co the ocean, the cool ocean water will keep it cool.

SPEAKER_05 51:34

But remember how hot it gets, right? And for things to survive in the ocean, it can't get too hot, right? So you have things like coral, you know, those are gonna die and cook. Right, right, right. See, see because it's been happening already with with the with the climate change, okay, and now you're forcing ocean life, yeah. They can't survive if it's too hot. Wow. Okay, so now you're gonna heat up the water, and this will have an overall impact on the environment, right? And all of the ecosystems around the world. This will, you know, and it'll impact the weather, it'll impact, yeah. We're fucked.

SPEAKER_07 52:17

You don't you know what's gonna happen? I I what's gonna happen is the earth is gonna become so unbalanced and it's just gonna spin out of control, out of the galaxy, and just fucking end up exploding. Really? We're killing the earth. We are killing the earth.

SPEAKER_05 52:35

I and the thing that they can probably do, I don't I don't know. Maybe this is an idea. I think Elon Musk is the only one right now with SpaceX, okay, launching satellites into space. I mean, maybe data centers need to be off of the planet. I I don't know. Right? It's cold out there, doesn't have the environment like we do, right? Um maybe put them out there, and that could be you know a way to deal with it. But then now you can have trash all over the fucking universe now. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 53:11

Amazing.

SPEAKER_05 53:12

Yeah, I hate to be gloom and doom.

SPEAKER_07 53:14

No, I know. It's but you know my goodness.

SPEAKER_05 53:18

Anyway, that's all that's all I got.

SPEAKER_07 53:22

I think this was a great episode. We covered a lot. Oh, I hope so. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_05 53:27

It flew by, it really did. Um, so guys, please like, comment, subscribe. Yeah to the long way out.

SPEAKER_07 53:35

Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. Chow me, the long way out.