010 - The Uplift Podcast: Do Hard Things. Get Addicted to Your Life with Erin Thompson

What if the most powerful thing you could do for your confidence had nothing to do with how you look?

This week's guest has spent years mastering her body — first as an IFBB Figure Pro, then as an Ironman triathlete crossing finish lines that have nothing to do with a stage. Erin Thompson is also one of the most open advocates for ADHD in women, and what it really means to be a high-achieving woman who thinks, trains, and pushes differently.

This conversation goes deep into something I feel strongly about: women are not pushed enough. We are not encouraged to discover what we are truly capable of. And that gap — between the woman you are now and the woman you'd be if you stopped playing it safe — is where this episode lives.

What started as a conversation about sport became something much bigger — about dopamine, about doing hard things, about the carry-over from a brutal training session into the way you walk into a room, parent your children, run your business, and see yourself.

If you've ever held yourself back from something because you didn't think you could do it, this episode is for you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:02

Hello guys and welcome back to the podcast. We talk a lot on this show about the training and the nutrition. But today's episode is about something bigger than that. It's about what you're actually capable of. And I feel like as women, we're not pushed enough, not by society, by the fitness industry, and most of the time not by ourselves. We tend to play more safe, stay comfortable, and we actually miss out on what's waiting on the other side of hard work. So my guest today has spent her life proving what the female body and mind can do. She stood on a stage as an IFBB figure pro. She's now crossing Iron Man finish lines. She's an open advocate for ADHD and what that means to be a high-achieving woman who thinks and operates differently. Not just from how you look, but what you've done. Erin Thompson, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Thank you so much for that introduction. This is actually the I think it's the second podcast I've been on since I've stepped away from the bodybuilding industry. And it's been it's been so nice just being able to actually come on and speak about different things because I think as females as well, a lot of things that we do in our life and a lot of podcast episodes as well is about our body. And it's there's so much more actually to us as women and as people, is to what our bodies actually look like. Do you know what I mean? And one of my favorite sayings in life is that your body is an instrument and not an ornament, and that's something that's actually helped me through a lot of things in life when trying to like just find the whole of Erin outside of just what our appearance looks like.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Yeah. So you sit like obviously off the back of that. Who who are you right now? Like, what does a week in your life actually look like now?

SPEAKER_01 2:56

So who who am I? Well, I'm just I am just someone who is multi-dimensional. I would claw I would someone I like I'm multi-dimensional. I'm someone that's very curious and wants to basically experience as much of life and as things as possible. And I think that sometimes, and myself especially, I spent my whole 20s trapped in a singular lane. So I was focusing on one thing for a whole decade of my life. And for me, once that chapter was over, I just wanted to fully find what my likes and dislikes were. And I am like a very competitive person. I do like pushing myself and also uh in and seeing what the the human body and the the mind can actually achieve. So it's just been it's been cool switching dynamics and going from one side of the spectrum to the the other, because like bodybuilding, it is all about your your physique and gaining as much muscle as as you possibly can. Whereas endurance, it's it's about health, it's trying to get your VO2 max as high as you you possibly can, seeing where your fitness levels are, seeing how fast you can you can run or how long you can you can go. And it's just been it's been and don't get me wrong, it's been a very difficult journey as well, especially the the first six six-ish months were probably one of the hardest, one of the hardest periods of my life because we don't really have, like, and I'm sure if other people are listening and they feel lost at the moment as well. It's a hard phase because we don't really have any guidance from other people. There's nobody really talking about what to do or how to kind of change your identities or how to like evolve yourself as a person. It's so it was a very hard period of my life mentally trying to change that. But I actually see it was an Alan Watts YouTube video, and it came up in the the quote that he it's I speak about that a lot, but he was like, the only two people that you should care about is your eight and eighty-year-old self. Your eight-year-old self wants fun, they want safety, peace, and just that they've not got like a care in the world when it comes to like the things that they they do, they dream big, and they're they they've just got like this freeing aura about them. Whereas your 80-year-old self, they'll if you was you was 80 and you was reflecting back on your life, you would be looking at yourself, probably screaming at yourself as to why did you not do that? Like, yeah, why did you not like just like try and go see the world or like do that sport while you still had the the capabilities to do it? Because a lot of the a lot of people get these awakenings in their like 40s or or 50s, and I'm like, well, it's that's like a sign that I just need to be like, you know what, forget the judgment in everything because it's it's it's hard to kind of let go of like the fear, fear of that. So, like the thing that was the turning point for me was my gym has got a massive slide in the middle of it, it's got a massive slide, and for about a year I was going into that gym, and every time I seen it, I was like, I really want to go down that slide, but I was too scared. I was like, Oh, people will be looking at me, people will be laughing, laughing at me. I can't, I can't do it. And then one day it was the scariest thing I've ever done. After one of my sessions, I went up that stairs and went down that slide. And that was honestly, as silly as that maybe sounds, that was like the turning point for me to be like, no, like I can I can try anything now that did anyone look a laugh at you when you did it?

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Nobody nobody even noticed it. Nobody noticed it. I was like like hyperventilating.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

I had to go to the toilets and like mentally prepare myself, and I could feel myself like really stiff as I was going up that stairs. And I'll just I just go into the gym now and I just go down the slide of sleep as I come in. With your gym bag. It's amazing. Um, but I think that's it's the first like initial step that's that a lot of people is like afraid to do, they're afraid to take that first first step in case of like not being good enough, or or the fear of unknown, or what other the judgment of what other people are going to say as well. And it holds us back so much from what we're actually truly capable of as females.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Would you ever think that like there's a version of you that like didn't believe that you were capable of these things? Like when you've started each sort of venture, has there been like a I might not be able to do this?

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Or hundred like when I was when I was a bodybuilder, I never felt good enough that whole time. So like and it was hard because I had a passion for training. I loved the especially in the first couple of years. The first couple of years I truly loved like because there wasn't much pressure during during that time. I was doing it because I enjoyed it, it got me out of a dark place in my I was a little shit in my teenage years with drink and drugs, and it was just not a good time. So the gym saved me from that. So it was doing what I'm doing now kind of is just like a it kind of feels feels like that again, but during during my bodybuilding, especially with like the standards and the the expectations we've got is as women, and I think also your environment and the people that you've got in that circle as well, if if they're not pulling you up as well, it it kind of does. By the end of it, I was just I was just done. Like I was just had no belief in myself, and it was just nothing, no matter how optimal my routine was or what my physique looked like, it just for me personally, it never felt like enough. And there was just one day, it was like I think I was three weeks out at the time, and I just I wasn't ready for my my competition. I was like, I'm done. Like, I'm I'm I'm done. This is like I'm I'm not what's needed for that, and I'm not willing to extend a prep and abuse, like no, not abuse my body, but well, yeah, I didn't want to go away, go against my ethos and values as a person. And at that moment, I was like, I just need to to step away, and I felt I just felt really uncomfortable in my body as well. I just felt like uh I just I've I've got a really little frame and little little physique, so like I just felt like I was like uh I just felt like a proportion for my body, that's all.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

Yeah, I mean you you you did build a a lot a lot of muscle because I remember watching like your your early like YouTube's and stuff and like see like how much you actually like progressed. Like you did amazing, like but I understand what you're saying, like the standard always is getting bigger, and you just can't physically like keep up with it sometimes, can you? Like when you are like a more petite person, yeah, especially not in figure anyway.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Yeah, after after I won my pro card, that was my ultimate goal. Like my goal. I've never had a goal of like getting to the Olympia or like winning a pro show. Like for me, winning that pro card was like my goal. So, like anything after that was an icing on top of it was like the cherry on top of an already beautiful baked cake, and it was just a point like when is enough going to be actually enough, and that's when I actually started to feel enough because I made the decision not out of like any there wasn't like I did it, I it was me that chose to be like, okay, no, like I'm I'm enough, I'm happy, I've got nothing more that I need to do in this space.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Yeah, and I suppose that can like when you've been working towards that and you feel like it's enough, then you can then start to go into the next sort of chapter, which is sort of what happened with you. Um so I know like you speak a lot about hard work and and dopamine and and how to like get rewards out of the little things. Um obviously there's there's a big science behind that, but how did you find uh building uh dopamine into your routine to help you feel good in the hard work? Because a lot of people get put off by hard work because they don't like it because it's hard, but yeah, you can flip it, can't you, to get a good positive from it?

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Yeah, so I got diagnosed with ADHD in 2023. Yeah, so three three years ago I got diagnosed with with with ADHD, and that was like a real turning point for me because I always felt like there I was sometimes too much, or I got maybe a little bit too excited, or I would get these like incredibly low lows as well. And for me, being in the gym and training really helped me kind of manage, manage myself. And for me as well, with the I personally, when it comes to like medication, etc., I did like a lot of research when it came to like the the dopamine aspect and what you actually need to do to actually help improve your prefrontal cortex. So your prefront your prefrontal cortex is part of your brain that helps with focus, it helps with your norepinephrine levels, it helps with wood discipline, and that is basically the driving factor for all of the things that that you do. But when you've got ADHD, your prefrontal cortex is like the the dopamine receptors are are depleted. So going around your daily tasks can actually be like quite difficult, and I think especially now because there's there's a lot of quick fixes and a lot of quick things that we can get pleasure from now. So you can go on your phone and go on to YouTube, or you can sit on Instagram and scroll through all of these, all of these reels, and a lot of things are just giving us this like fake sense of of dopamine. And when it comes to the phones, isn't the biggest thing that I've seen like people get distracted with, and it was something that I was really distracted with a couple of years ago as well. But it's not actually Instagram or like TikTok or anything that's actually the program, it's the feedback loop. So you swiping your finger and getting that. Oh, I wonder what's next, I wonder what video I'm going to get next. That's the habit loop that's actually supplying that like that dopamine spikes in your in your brain. So cutting things off and finding like natural things that is going to actually increase dopamine. So getting outside, spending time in nature is a big one. And for me, it was cycling. Cycling completely changed, changed my life. And I know that when it comes to cycling as well, it was uh it was the one thing that I had tried that completely made my mind completely blank. So like my brain chats. Anybody that's got ADHD, your brain's constantly chatting in an overdrive. But because you've got like the stimulus of moving your legs, and you've got to make sure that you're holding on to make so you don't fall off and looking at your surroundings, your brain's like clear, but you're actually like you're doing something that you like, well, for me personally, I I enjoy. And that was the one thing that completely helped with regulating my dopamine levels first thing in the morning. Morning movement is even things like walking or like doing any cardio, whether it's outside or inside, can help massively with regulating your dopamine levels first thing in the morning. And for me, setting, because it was a new novelty and it was something, something new, setting little challenges like, oh, I'm going to try and cycle 20 kilometers and then I'm going to do 30, and then I'm going to do 40. And it just kind of just kind of escalated from there. But that was probably the biggest thing that completely completely changed my changed my life.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Do you feel like it's um like the ADHD kind of give you that perfectionism mindset of like having to do more of it? Like, how does it present to you once you figured it out?

SPEAKER_01 17:42

So when it comes to perfection, perfectionism, I would say I used to be a perfectionist when when I'm a when I was a bodybuilder, but for me, perfectionism doesn't exist in like what what I do at the moment. And I think like once you kind of once you kind of like have that like self-awareness and like when it comes to like perfectionism, it's understanding like what your triggers are and realizing okay, like that's the uh I I call it I've got like a like a voice in my head. So it's when when that voice in my head comes, so when Patricia comes into my head, when Patricia comes, when Patricia comes in and like starts saying, like, oh, like you need to, like she's like quite aggressive, she'll be the one that's like that tells you you're a failure or that that's not good enough, etc. When she comes in, it's it's knowing it's knowing how to like part and switch to change and get that get that voice out. And I think for me, going into this as well, the biggest thing that got away my perfectionism was doing the cycling racing, because the cycling racing, it's it's very tactical, it's very skilled, it's it's really dangerous as well. So you can't really have that perfectionist mindset when it comes to that. So it was the cycling racing for me was more like exposure therapy of actually helping with being a perfectionist because it's putting me into a place where it's actually really scary to kind of be in that environment where there is a lot of people that are a lot better than you, a lot fitter than you, and you don't have the skills um to do it.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

So would you say then like people who have this kind of uh mindset and like they they'll stop themselves from trying things if they know they're not going to be very good at it, would you just say like literally push yourself in the deep end of tasks?

SPEAKER_01 20:06

If when it comes to that, if so, you uh what I always say to my clients as well is you've got excitement in and fear. If there's a scenario where there's just fear and there's no excitement, don't do it. If there's just excitement, it probably means that there's something, there's something missing here, it's not hard enough, you're not uncomfortable enough. But if there's excitement on fear, and this is what you need to think about when it comes to something that you want to do that maybe you're not good at, if there is excitement at you even thinking about completing it or getting a little bit further ahead, you should be diving your yourself into that. And and that's when and that I made that decision when I signed up for for an Iron Man, because I signed up for an Iron Man without even being able to run five kilometers. Like, and I was like, have I got excitement with this? And I was like, it was either maintain my physique, just go to the gym and downsize and just carry on the life that I was living, or just do a complete 360. And when I asked myself that question, I was like, okay, right, I don't mind what it is, and I hated running because I was I was really, really, really bad at it. Like I couldn't even run for four minutes without being really out of breath, and it was really disheartening for like the first five, six months, and then everything started to click, and that's the thing that people people people need to realize as well that everything you want is it the other side of that fear and Patricia in your head that's actually telling you to stop and wanting to hold you back.

SPEAKER_02 21:59

How did Like push through that wanting to stop then? So when you're not very good at like the running, obviously, like being a bodybuilder, you can do hard sets and you can like do a set of 15 or whatever, and it'd be like all out, but that's totally different to endurance. Like, how can you like how did you push yourself more?

SPEAKER_01 22:22

I just day by day. That's that's very similar to, for example, like we if you if I started that Iron Man and thought, oh my goodness, I've got a marathon to do after already doing a race for seven hours, that would have overwhelmed me massively because I would have just been thinking, I'm not going to be able to run 42 kilometers at the end of that when I can't even run five like five. So, like it's just focusing and focusing on that day, then breaking it down to that session. And then if that session's hard, breaking it down again, okay, just go for one more minute, okay, and another, and another, and another, and then boom, you're done. And then you just you just move on, move on from it, and then go on to the the next one, and then after that, it just it starts compounding, and you'll look back and be like, Oh, I can't believe I've I've just done that.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Yeah, so with that as well, like how how does it feel now for you to be someone who trains for what your body can do rather than just how it looks? Because I know you mentioned at the start about it not being an ornament. How does that feel like now?

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Freeing. I feel I feel completely free physiologically and psychologically. I've got no attachment to my body composition anymore. And it's funny because when you actually let go of what your physique looks like and start focusing on performance and how your your body moves, you end up feeling the and looking the best, the best you've ever looked. And for me, I'm I'm definitely not the leanest, I'm not the biggest, like I'm just I feel I feel content from what I look like. And even when it comes to like the the food aspect as well, like being able to eat meals and not have no like I would go to a restaurant and just order what I wanted without even thinking about it. Whereas as a bodybuilder, I would look at the the menu before, make sure that there's salads or something on the on the menu, or I would feel guilt if I would have a couple of days of untrapped food with with my family. Whereas now I've got complete complete psychological freedom when it comes to to food, and like my relationship with with food and training and and rest is a lot better because of it as well.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Yeah. I suppose you still do have to manage your nutrition a lot because you you will probably have to eat a hell of a lot more, do you now?

SPEAKER_01 25:25

I so I don't really track anything anymore. I eat similar meals in a sense that I still like having oats and chicken and rice and and that sort of foods, but I don't really I don't really track. The only times that'll track is when I've got, for example, like a four-hour cycle in the morning. With those cycles, I'm having like 500 grams of carbs during that night. So it's kind of making sure that I'm eating enough through that. But if I want to have a cookie after it, or if I want to have like a croissant after my session, I'll I'll just just eat it. Yeah, I don't really think I don't really think about it anymore, if I'm being honest.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

That's good. Do you get like more are you a but like a lot more in tune with your own energy now then? I suppose, or do you just always feel a bit knocked?

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Because you do have a I feel okay because um I I eat a lot, like I do genuinely eat like every couple couple of hours. I'm still giving my body a lot of nutritious foods, like my calories are like three to four thousand every single day, not non-negotiable. So uh I don't really um my self-awareness is a lot higher with how my body feels and how my body is recovering, and I don't feel guilty or worried if I I don't get to like do a do a training session, but even like now I train in the gym maybe one to two times per week. That's it now. And in some some weeks I don't train at all, just depending on how how my body body feels.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

Yeah, what um what do you think that sort of women like underestimate about their abilities to push themselves then when doing uh anything? Do you think that like they worry too much about how they look and and not pushing themselves into hard things?

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Yeah, so a lot of the people that I've had call uh because I've had consults and I work with quite a lot of professional like like like IFB pros that have that are moving into the the next chapter, and the biggest thing is the fear around letting go. So, like the fear around letting go, or the fear as to what's going to happen if you do decide to try something new, or if you do decide to push it a little bit further, or try uh do a race that you maybe don't feel ready for yet, it's that it's that fear of the unknown as to what's actually going to going to happen in that. So it it's a it's about learning to actually trust your trust yourself again. And a lot of even like myself and from like other pros or people that's walked away as well, massive thing is that we've controlled literally every single variable and had someone else just tell us if we're good enough or not. Like we don't have that, we didn't have that self-awareness to be like, well, I'm uh I am good enough here. Like what I'm doing is is enough. It's always more, more, more, or control this, check your weight every single day, tell me your blood glucose levels, your like everything was was managed. So when you live in an environment like that, letting go and being like, you know what, I'm going to back myself here and I'm going to trust myself that everything will go into alignment and go into the way that it's it's supposed to go. So it was like the the the trust aspect and just not caring about what other people's opinions opinions were. And it comes with a it comes with a lot of grief, and it comes with people leaving or people maybe not understanding the your reason as to why you're doing what you're doing, and it's it's it's hard when you've built a whole life and whole identity is this person.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Yeah. Did you feel like because I know obviously you you coach like bodybuilders as well as obviously what you do now? Did you feel like there was a little bit of fear of of that when you changed as well, like identity?

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Yeah, that was my biggest fear. My my biggest fear was as soon as I started like posting my running content or like sharing, oh, I'm doing an item, everybody's going to leave me and I'm going to have no clients. I thought I would wake up in the morning and every single one of my clients would have would have left me. When that after a period of time, what you've got to remember is the people that come to you for work or the people that are friends with you, and not friends with you through just sport, but they connect with you as a is a person. And for me, like sharing a lot of like my values and and the things that is important to me massively helped from like a business side because the clients that like I have and had all shared like the same same values, and the people that didn't left. But in 2024 was when I made the decision that I wouldn't be working. I put it up on my Instagram and just said that I wouldn't be working with with females that wanted to use like PTDs, especially in like first-timer shows. Yeah, that was like the the big turning point for me was I felt uncomfortable as well in terms of how the bodybuilding industry was changing. And it just I didn't want to be part of part of that either.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Yeah, no, definitely. I think like when you do have these little uh well, not little but big transitions in your life, like you know, you especially as a as a someone who runs a business, like that can be you've got to take your values with you, haven't you, with any kind of change?

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah, um it's it's just kind of deciding as well. Is do you want to be like and that this is what I ask myself do I want to be unhappy and feel a massive resistance in terms of being not my authentic self, or do I take the rest and just openly share, like and be who I authentically am as a person? And I chose I chose to go with my authentic self because then people people people do leave, and that's that's completely understandable as well, because everybody's in different stages of their own their own lives as well. And for me, like self-awareness and actually understanding the mind on like a much deeper level as well is something that's that's really important to me, and having that open-mindedness to to be curious is something that is is really actually important to me.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Yeah, because like I I love bodybuilding, and like obviously it shaped a lot of like where I am today, and I won't like slate it or anything, um, but equally like understanding that you there's so much more like to it, like you can still look after your body and and do hard things and it will still be okay, but it's not just about how you look, and I think that that's just a really big message. I think that I want more people to know, yeah, you just get trapped, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Yeah, but but saying that as well, like I love bodybuilding and everything that it's it's done for me, but I just simply completed my chapter of it. Like, I didn't start bodybuilding because I wanted to be the biggest version of myself. I started bodybuilding because I freaking loved the training and I loved the hard work in the discipline and the the process of seeing yourself become better and and you create your bodybuilding's like your own art piece. You don't decide that art piece is done until you say that it's done. But for me, I just got to the point where I was just uncomfortable and not willing to to take it, take it further. Because when I was just looking at myself and being like, yep, um if I keep going at this rate, I'm going to I'm going to not even even recognize myself in like five, ten years time.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Yeah, yeah. I think that as well, like when people are younger as well, and they get a bit caught up in that, don't they? Which is probably what you mean by like the the first timers and things coming to you.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Yeah, it's just more like the the PTD side. That's the biggest the biggest thing. I love coaching first timers. So when it comes to like the the the natural girls, I love like making their preps as enjoyable as they is they possibly can be, and seeing them push themselves to their limits. But when it comes to the PTD side, I've also seen them the effects from it. And like it's it's a slippery slope, and if you don't have that self-awareness and you cross that boundary, you can completely, completely change, which is something that I just didn't. That was like the part where I just couldn't take females, females down that route for my own values. I've got nothing against people that that do do it. I did it, but but it's just not it's not something that I can can do to other people.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Yeah. So what like what's the single biggest lesson then that doing hard things um has taught you about yourself?

SPEAKER_01 36:35

That you're capable, then then a lot more than you think. Yeah. Like what you the the if you the best thing that you can actually do in your life is be as delusional as possible. And I say this to people, like especially even like competitors, they'll be like, oh, just want to to compete. I'm like, well, what is the the actual goal here? Are you wanting to turn pro, are you wanting to go to the Olympia, or are you wanting to win the British finals? And that's the thing that you're like, okay, right, that's the the ultimate goal there. And when you start acting bigger, you'll start intentionally acting like the person that you actually need to be to achieve that. And that was when I because I said to myself after I completed my first show, I want to to to turn pro. I'm I'm um that's my my next goal, and intentionally act like the person that you want to become was the saying that I've had since like the very start of my bodybuilding career. And I've had it through the Iron Man journey and to this day now. It's just intentionally act like the person that you want to become. This is where like the Dululu needs to come in, but it's not delusional if it works. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

What about if someone like had like the they're even scared to have the the delulu? Like if they're like really stuck and they're you know trying to they want something, but they their lifestyle just doesn't look like that. Like how can you just start to fake it? Do you know what I mean? If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

You do need to start faking it to begin with, of course. I so when it with what you're saying there, is it because the environment or their lifestyle is it's not achievable for them to act like that person, or or what do you mean with that?

SPEAKER_02 38:48

I think if what I'm what I'm saying is probably like they are living a lifestyle currently where they don't feel that they are like good enough or confident enough to do different to what they're currently doing.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

Okay, I so with that it would be getting to the main reason is to what the I'm not good enough is is like where is that actually coming from? Why do you have that belief on yourself? And when are the times that you actually say to yourself that you're not you're not good enough? And this is when you need to because this is all subconscious, like it's deeply things that are like fears with like fear of judgment, I'm not good enough, I'm ugly, I'm fat. These are all things that are like deeply rooted in the the subconscious, so it's actually going back and like really trying to figure out when that first time that you actually felt that in rewriting the story of that and changing the the perspective, but always like when it comes to like things that you say to yourself as well. If you said to yourself, like I'm not good enough, but and then put up it's not about like being oogie bougie or like speaking to yourself in the mirror, it's just about the reframe is the most the most important thing when it comes to this. Because if you have got like a deep-rooted fear of not being good enough or feeling ugly, for example, you looking in the mirror and being like, I am good enough, I am good enough, it's not going to do anything because it's so deep-rooted and you don't believe that in yourself. But when you pair it with like a positive reframe, so like I'm not good enough, but I am going to try take one step forward today. I'm not good enough, but I am going to change this one thing in my day that aligns with the person that that I want to become. And it doesn't need to be anything bigger, but if you do that every single day, your whole life will start start changing and you'll start getting trust in yourself because you've took that one like that one little step. So for anybody that does have like a I'm ugly, I'm fat, I'm not good enough, I'm scared of what other people think, put the butt and then a positive, positive reframe after that, and that'll completely change change your life when it comes to the the deep-rooted things that we feel about ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Yeah, amazing.

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Um that's the thing, I had all these things, like I had the feelings of like not being good enough or like scared to put myself out there, like had it with podcasts, I had it with the the YouTube, I had it with both like bodybuilding in my in my physique. It takes time to like learn, like, especially like the psychology as to how our our brain brain works, and and it does just take a little bit of time to to understand that.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

Yeah, absolutely. So, where can um all of the listeners find you and follow you on your your journey?

SPEAKER_01 42:29

On Instagram, rnt.femmevo. I haven't been really present on Instagram much recently. I've just not been going on, I keep forgetting to go my phone, but I have got a YouTube channel as well that I am going to be starting back up. So that's just Adam Thompson as well.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Yeah. Well, I'll if you send them, I'll put them in the the show notes as well so we can share those. But yeah, is there anything else that you want to say to the listeners before we uh wrap up this episode?

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Just go all in, just enjoy your life, just push yourself out of your comfort zone. Um there's just always something positive at the other side of fear.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Amazing. Thank you so much for listening, and I will speak to you soon.