This Week in Leading AI
Imagine two mates at the bar. Thirty years of business between them. And all they want to talk about is AI.
That's "This Week in Leading AI". The podcast where Kieron and Neil cut through the hype, share what's really working in the world of Generative AI, and helping people figure out this AI thing without the techno-babble.
Just honest conversation, real stories from the AI coalface, and the kind of straight-talking advice you'd only get from people who've worked together for 30+ years, been there, done that, broken things, gone "Oh S***!, fixed it, and lived to tell the tale. They claim Leading AI is the best job they've ever had and are having a blast doing it. It shows.
Warning: may cause you to actually enjoy learning about AI
Pull up a stool. We'll get the beers in.
Episodes
27 episodes
Su Belagodu and The Human in the Loop
Six legs on the pantomime horse again — and this time we had to explain what a pantomime horse actually is. Su Belagodu joins us from Winchester, Massachusetts (yes, we compared notes on the other Winchester), introduced by our previous ...
Cameron Mirza and the Learning Scientists
Some university leaders believe AI is free.Not cheap. Free.That's one of the findings from research by our special guest this week — Cameron Mirza, who leads major education projects in Jordan for IREX, the NGO worki...
Donald Allison - The Big D, the brains behind KnowledgeFlow
Six legs on the pantomime horse this week. This time the third stool goes to the man who started it all, the on, the only Donald Allison, CTO and architect of KnowledgeFlow. The origin story is better than any of us reme...
Show me your evidence
"Show me your evidence". Imagine a regulator, an auditor, or an ombudsman asks you that about an important decision your organisation made.Now imagine the honest human answer: "Well, I read the documentation and had a cup of tea. I t...
Sweaty man-boobs
This week’s podcast starts with (what Neil thinks is) a hilarious story about Kieron’s brush with a makeup artist who had (what Neil thinks) is the worst job in the world. The clue is in the podcast title. Poor lady…Kieron also talks fas...
Stupidity in the loop
Episode 21: Stupidity in the Loop, JADEPUFFER & The Watch That Never Moves 🍺Week 21. Neil's in his loudest pantomime shirt. Kieron once tried to buy him an actual pantomime horse outfit and discovered they're surprisingly nich...
Special Guest - Nicole Alos
The Pantomime Horse Grows a Third Pair of Legs 🍺A first for us, someone else at the bar. And she earned her special tankard.Nicole Alos — founder of Socratyc, executive coach, and creator of Socratyc Sidekick — heard...
Is AI conscious? What does conscious even mean?
Plus a Troll, a Marking Robot & a Mystery Guest 🍺Episode 20. Somebody told Neil his content is lazy and rehashed. He's decided being trolled is an accolade. Kieron got ambushed on stage when a customer asked a live audience wh...
"Go Work It Out Yourself" is not an AI strategy
It's getting hot in the pantomime horse outfit. Neil's back from the Isle of Arran — sunburned, hydrated, and mildly alarmed by the FT and The Economist's sudden AI pessimism. Meanwhile, Kieron had a rollercoaster of a week with cli...
Fable got banned. The moral isn't good.
By the time Kieron listened to last week's episode, Fable had already been released and banned. That's the pace of AI right now.This week: why the US export ban on Anthropic's frontier models should worry every business that's quietly be...
Ready for a 58-page complaint letter?
Week 17. Kieron wore a shirt and shoes to a food industry conference for 60 senior leaders. Neil nearly went back in the doghouse because his daughter told him to read the room and he (foolishly) chose not to. Leading AI's website has ha...
$500m reasons you need an AI kill switch
Episode 16: $500 Million in Tokens, AI Slop at Interview & Trigger's Broom 🍺Week 16. The pantomime horse rolls on — and the transcript called it pantyhose again. Neil is blaming his Northern accent. Kieron is firmly in the bac...
Yer Granny's breeches
Week 15. Kieron is back from six days on the beige boat of joy — a 1980s river cruiser that he describes as "full on retro". Neil describes Kieron as the “Magnum P.I. on the Thames”. If you’re lucky enough to be under 50, look it up. Kieron sai...
"Can Me Mam Use This?"
Episode 14: Steam Engines, 100 Out of 100 & Can Me Mam Use This? 🍺Week 14. Veterans now, apparently. Kieron is off to pootle on the Thames on the beige boat of joy after this. Neil is enjoying the last few days of summer in th...
Gartner - The Glastonbury of AI
Episode 13: Live from the Glastonbury of AI — Our Gartner Debrief 🍺Week 13. Unlucky for some — but not for two people who've just spent three days at the Gartner Data and Analytics Summit, AKA the Glastonbury of AI. Neil says he w...
The Billion Pound Bid
Buzzsprout DescriptionEpisode 12: Sir David Attenborough, Magic Wands, and prep for the Glasto of AI 🍺Week 12. The pantomime horse of a podcast is back. Kieron is heading to David Attenborough's 100th birthday picnic...
AI Code with your fries?
Episode 11: McKinsey Got Hacked, McDonald's Writes Python & We're Big in Uzbekistan 🍺Week 11. Eleven weeks of consistent podcasting — a personal consistency record for both of them. 🥳 The podcast now has listeners ...
From pilots to practice
Episode 10: TechUK Recognition, You Get What You Pay For & The Very First Cyber Attack 🍺Ten weeks. The longest either of them has been consistent at anything. Neil's briefly out of the doghouse. Kieron's on squash instead of b...
Neil's in the doghouse
Episode 9: AI Deniers, AI Slop & KnowledgeFlow Cracks Salesforce 🍺Neil's on a non-alcoholic beer again — this time because he's in the doghouse with Mrs Watkins and needs to drive her to a romantic weekend away to patch things...
Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
No beer again this week — just water, Coke, and the usual dose of brilliant conversation (Ed. - Seriously? Who writes this stuff?). AI liability — who's actually responsible when it goes wrong? Kieron sat down with Peter L...
There's no future in computers
Episode 7: Punch Cards, Agentic AI & KnowledgeFlow Outperforms Salesforce 🍺It's Easter week and this week’s recording is in the morning, so too early for beer. Even for us. And that’s in spite of Neil’s granddaughter telling h...
Non-AI Days — seriously?
Episode 6: Non-AI Days, The AI Gap & Why Copilot Isn't a KnowledgeFlow 🍺The beer has finally arrived. Unfortunately, Neil's is non-alcoholic because he's got to go to the dentist. Kieron got lost on a golf course on the way ba...
The fumble zone
Episode 5: The Fumble Zone, AI Safety & Leading AI Goes to Canada 🍁Neil's heading to the pub. Kieron's been up since six. It's Friday, the sun's on their faces, and Episode 5 of the Leading AI podcast is underway — squash in a...