2 or More Podcast
The 2 or More Podcast is a conversation for lost balls and sleeping giants—followers of Jesus who are hungry for authenticity and to grow in their gifts and calling. Mike Bishop and Joel Henson explore what it looks like to plant sustainable microchurches, build spiritual family, and live out the kingdom of God in your whole life.
2 or More Podcast
Latest Episodes
Reimagining Church Structure: From Centralized Control to Spirit-Led Collaboration
We continue exploring APEST as a blueprint for rethinking church leadership beyond centralized, CEO-style structures. This episode asks what it would look like to move from platform-driven models into shared, collaborative leadership where apos...
How to Discern Your APEST Gift
We move away from reducing spiritual gift discovery to personality tests, spiritual guessing games, or instant labels and instead step into a discipleship process that is formed over time through obedience, experience, and community. The APEST ...
Discernment in the Age of AI: When the Church Outsources Thought to Machines
In this episode, we step into the tension of a rapidly accelerating technological world where artificial intelligence is no longer a distant concept but a present voice shaping how we think, write, learn, and even preach. In a moment where the ...
Embracing Sadness - Grief Without Shame
We often treat sadness as something to be managed, avoided, or spiritually corrected, but in doing so we quietly develop a kind of emotional poverty that cannot sustain real discipleship. In this conversation, we explore the idea that sadness i...
APEST Beyond Titles: Recovering the Fivefold as Living Function, Not Religious Hierarchy
We dismantle the modern instinct to turn kingdom gifts into leadership offices and return them to what Jesus actually intended—living expressions of movement, maturity, and mutual equipping. Instead of reducing apostles, prophets, evangelists, ...