Blood Sugar 1.3: How a £15 Glucometer Solved Three Autoimmune Conditions

Kellie is a strategic business mentor who bulldozed through three autoimmune conditions—until her body forced a reckoning.

In this conversation, she breaks down how a £50 glucose monitor revealed the root cause behind years of debilitating crashes (spoiler: it wasn't burnout), why her injury rehab degree couldn't save her from herself, and the exact protocol that dropped her rheumatoid factor from >150 to 50.

No woo. No "listen to your body" platitudes. Just the tactical breakdown of what actually worked when rest wasn't optional anymore.

What we cover:

• Why competitive people fail at "gentle yoga" (and what works instead)
• The CGM data that changed everything: blood sugar dropping to 1.3 after carbs
• How she stabilized autoimmune markers, lost 6.5kg, and got off pain meds
• The coaching approach that works for headstrong women who hate being told what to do

If you're a high-performer white-knuckling your health while your body keeps the score, this one's for you.

To find out how to work with Kellie:

Kellies Website

Kellies Social Media

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Hello and welcome to the Million Dollar Body Podcast with your host, Greg Fairon. And today we have Kelly Tannehill who's going to talk to you about her journey with her health, her business, and how she does things a lot different to how she did them before. Welcome, Kelly.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Hi yeah. Thank you for having me on.

SPEAKER_03 0:19

My pleasure. My pleasure. So do you want to give a little intro into who you are and what you do?

SPEAKER_01 0:25

I'm Kelly Tannehill. I'm a strategic business mentor. I spent a lot of time in corporate advising small business owners on how to grow profitable businesses. I'm also a mother, a business owner, a wife, a sister, a friend, and all the other things. And my corporate life involved a lot of um being on at all hours, flying at silly o'clock in the morning, and um it was like I loved it, business is my hyper focus. Um, but the challenge became when I wasn't prioritizing myself over everything else, and I got very unwell. Um, so really my journey with Greg has been about unpicking um my health and getting me back to what I would say I'm now focusing on growing my strength. If before it was about getting back to health, now I'm focusing on growing my strength.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Awesome. Yeah, we've had a very interesting journey together, haven't we? It's been fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

So it's been about two years, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:38

Yeah, about a year and a half, I think. We've been so I think we we found each other in a in another program and we obviously uh bonded well, and you were like, Greg, I need some help. Like, what was the reason for reaching out with the health stuff?

SPEAKER_01 1:54

I have a degree in injury and I have a lot of knowledge, and I'm very particular about who I work with because I'm aware that there are people out there that don't do things to the standards that I do them. And if I don't believe the person in front of me, I just won't do it. So I had to get to know you before I positioned myself as Greg, I need you to help me. And my challenges were never give me this program, help me with this. It was um about rationalizing in my head whether what I was about to do was the best next step. Because my degree taught me that you can um have an injury and still have a relative level of fitness. So a big part of my health challenge was well, my health was an inconvenience, and I would just try and find a workaround to carry on doing what I was doing. Um, and I am a woman of science, and I would know that you could do X, Y, and Z and still perform these results. Um, I mean, there was a big key that I was missing in in my uh supposed knowledge, and that was finally figured out towards the end. Um, but yes, so it was about knowing that you had the tools to be able to sort support me and that you weren't gonna what's the word, bluff me into doing things that I didn't want to do because I I'm not that person. I don't do things unless I I want to do them, if you get running.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Yeah, I think the the whole thing for us was to make it a collaborative approach rather than me just go, hey's your plan, Kelly, off you go, just do this for no reason, with no rationale or reason or understanding of what you were going through, I think, as well. Because I know you're very passionate about your work and I wanted to make sure that you could perform to the level that you want to perform to as well, and certain practices and weren't necessarily going to work well for that.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Yes. Yeah. I mean, there were times um like to go into a brief history. Um, when I started working with Greg, I've already had um two autoimmune conditions, and I had acquired a third, which was restricting my ability to sometimes walk, use my hands, use my limbs. Um, and it wasn't a permanent situation, it was an intermittent challenge. So life was becoming very unpredictable, and um that was the bit that I couldn't get my head around how to manage unpredictability.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

Yeah, because you're quite a logical person.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Like very not a bit very okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

I'm I I was downplaying it a little bit, right? Yeah, you're you're a very logical person, like step by step. So obviously having that condition made things quite challenging, and it's it was trying to, I guess, understand how we deal with it, but also how we prevent it as well as as best as possible.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Yeah. And me not knowing what was coming was part of the the challenge.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

In what way?

SPEAKER_01 5:23

I've figured out how to manage everything else. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't manage this one. Um, but now I know why I couldn't manage this one. But at the time I was like, why? Why does this why is this not making sense? Um, but we got there eventually.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

It's so funny because something you just said was is like the key, I think, to pretty much 99% of my clients. It's like they've got the career figured out, the business, the really everything else. They're like smart, clever, intelligent. But when it comes to health, they haven't quite nailed it. And that was just the perfect segue into that. Like, why haven't I got this one area? So, what did you think it was? Like, why did you think you didn't have it sus?

SPEAKER_01 6:13

I don't know. I just spent a whole lot of time seeing it as an inconvenience, it was something that was in my way that I needed to get past, and I am quite good at bulldozing as well, so I would have just completely ignored myself and gone, this is what I want to achieve. So therefore, I am just going to do it. Um, and sometimes I tried to go around it, that didn't work either. Um, so um we had to go right back to the basics, didn't we?

SPEAKER_03 6:48

We did indeed. I remember we we first started with kind of swimming and yoga. Take you back to those days. Tell me more about how that first initial part of that process felt.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Well, first of all, I hate being wet, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Well, I knew that swimming made sense because it was non-weight bearing, it meant I could use my muscles and my joints without putting um you know unrealistic pressure on them. So I got myself a membership at the the local sports centre, and I got myself a spa membership because that meant you had better changing room facilities. Changing facilities are a big problem. I didn't want to put my feet on the tiles, and you know, I would have worn flip-flops to the pool, and um I would be doing the laps and I would be counting the laps because I hated every moment of it, but I knew that I couldn't I couldn't rely on cycling, I definitely couldn't run, I couldn't row, so swimming was it, and so we built myself up to doing the swimming, and I got over the other people's personal hygiene and um such and then um I think I said Greg, there's like yoga classes on here. Do you think I can try yoga classes? So we did yoga class. Did I do two of them? I think I did two of them. Was the not what do they call it? Not beginner's yoga, but it's about doing gentle yoga. Um and whenever I did yoga when I wasn't um well, I would have done what they call core yoga. It wasn't hot yoga, but it was dynamic yoga. And I was doing these what I considered baby moves, and I was just like, this isn't this is boring, this isn't enough. What why am I doing this? So I came back to you and went, This isn't this is not the answer. I can't be doing this. Can we be try can I try the um the more experienced class? But I think the more experienced class I couldn't attend because what was going on with um Alex in school. Um so we quickly dropped doing what I call baby yoga because I was being too competitive at yoga, and we moved on to um what do we call it? Not only wanna say weight training, but resistance training at home. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

Yeah, so we got you being able to do two or three sessions a week 10-15 minutes that could get you out of breath, get you moving your body, and you were able to be consistent with that from having been at a place where you couldn't put stress on your joints. So I think that was a big leap for you.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Yes, um, there with my kettlebells and my you know, my yoga mat. Um yeah, so that's where um I got to, and I think the thing that I always found a challenge was my diet wasn't necessarily my problem um because I'm a celiac. I already um well it's quite a restrictive diet anyway, but I already ate very well, um, and I ate very, should we say frequently. Um I had been a person of the past where have done those, what do you call them, fasts?

SPEAKER_00 10:33

Yeah, fasting.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Fasting was just a way of me being more effective in doing the things that I needed to do and not prioritize myself. Um and it was just an excuse. Um, but I'd learnt that lesson and yeah, so we worked on building my strength and my sleep because when I first started working with Greg, um I'd say six hours would have been normal.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

I think six hours was like an exceptional sleep almost.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Um if and a lot of my um condition meant that there was a number of times I was on steroids, and if I was on steroids, then the sleep was um non-existent. But the mentality of me was I'm on steroids, I'm gonna get so much done.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

Do more, more more.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Which was the wrong move. But you know, when you're on steroids, you feel amazing, and as long as you um have a carrot Kelly, not a Mars bar, you know, that's how you can control it. Um yeah, so um we now average sleep of seven and a half hours. It wasn't all my chat all my fault. Um I'm gonna go with the majority of it was my son didn't sleep until he was seven. So a lot of it was um disturbed sleep because um he couldn't sleep, but then you know it carried on for a year after me not sleeping that well, and that can't be blamed on um my son. So yeah, we finally now this whole sleeping thing.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

I think one of the big changes though for you was seeing sleep as important because I think then you started to make changes in your household. So you would stand up for yourself and be like, nope, I'm going to sleep now. This is it, this is my timing, do whatever you want, I'm going to bed. And that sort of a big shift in you from like being very passive about sleep to I need my sleep, I need to get my sleep. And you would change certain things like the calls you were on and stuff to make sure they're in line with you being rested and refreshed.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Oh, yeah. I used to be on calls that started at eight o'clock at night, and um, then I'd be on calls at four o'clock the next morning, you know. Um, when you look back at it and you think, good, um, and then people invite me to their things, and the answer is usually no, and it's not because I'm not interested, it's because no, I'm not being on a call after like six o'clock at night because I need to compress um and um wind down before I go to sleep, and if I'm on a call, that's not happening. Um, so lots of people have invited me to things and I've said no, but I didn't know how to tell them. Sorry, I prioritised my sleep over attending your thing. It's not that I'm supportive. Um, and many a social occasion have been declined because I'm like, no, no, thank you. Means I'm not gonna be home till whatever time.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Um so you yeah, you started to put yourself first and go, actually, I need to protect my time and energy to to so I can show up in the other areas of my life, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:07

Yeah. Um, and do you remember the time we'll have the conversation about a nap and a sleep?

SPEAKER_03 14:12

Yes, I remember that, yes. Yes. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

I'd had an hour and a half nap, and then you were like, no, Kelly, that's not a nap, that's a sleep. And I'm like, no, Greg, you put your pajamas on, that's asleep.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

Yes, I remember that. I was like, that's not a nap, that's a sleep. Like you go into deep sleep at some point in that, that's a sleep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Um I don't nap as much. Um, I do nap at the weekends, um, but that's because of um medication I'm on.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

And that's just the way we manage it until I get to come off of that medication. Um, and I don't think anybody got sick from having too much sleep.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

So not that I know of. There probably will be someone in the world somewhere who slept too much, but uh, in your case, getting more sleep has let you having more energy, being able to do other things, which is amazing. Um, there was something else we kind of bumped into when you were part of the sleep challenges. There was something underlying going on. You were kind of experiencing some energy crashes, and some time investigating what that was, which is uh which was which was fun. I enjoyed that bit.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I didn't. Um, so there's always been this capable person who have had these illnesses that have um reduced her capacity to do things, and we had improved all of those, and then I was not capable of being on a coaching call early in the morning. Um my brain works best early in the morning, so I crash early in the morning. Coaching call, get my son ready for school, drive him to school, Kelly crashes, Kelly can't go on, Kelly has to go to bed. What's going on? I'm eating well. Like I would have been eating, um I know that this might turn a lot of people, but I would have been eating mince rice at like seven o'clock in the morning to make sure that I was fueling my body correctly. And I'm there going, what is going on? Why am I not capable of doing this? And I would get to my son's school, and there would be plenty of times where um once we discovered what it was, we would figure that legally I shouldn't have been driving once we discovered what it was, and I was having um blood glucose crashes. Um and yeah, it wasn't fun, um, not in the slightest. When you've overcome everything that you've overcome, and then be like, why can't I get my son ready to school, drive into school, and get home without feeling like I have to pass out to get through my day. Um and that was when you suggested um monitoring my blood glucose, and then we just discovered that I was having about some days three or four hypoglycemic episodes a day. Um we followed the usual right, you need to get glucose in your system to get your um blood glucose up, and that turned out to be doing the wrong thing because um when I presented the information to the doctors, they then put me on all these tests and studies, and we discovered that if I eat carbohydrate, it produces too high an insulin response and it pushes my blood glucose into um hypoglycemia. So me eating the meat and the rice and thinking I'm doing the right thing was actually the thing that was causing me to be um tired and tired and not capable. So um we then switched my um food diet completely up, and we would was it 30% we got it down to? My carb intake was 30%.

SPEAKER_03 18:16

20 to 30 percent, yeah. We really pushed it down as much as we could.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Coming from the girl who said if she didn't eat carbs she'd kill someone, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Yes, I remember that too.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

And no one's died yet, right? No one's been killed. Okay, second to second.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Um so the carbohydrate sources that I eat now come from um vegetables and fruit, and I have to be careful of the glycemic index of the fruit that I'm eating, and I eat every three hours, and it's all you know, it's all good. Um, but we wouldn't have um we wouldn't have known that if you hadn't have suggested let's look at the blood glucose. Um blood glucose is still ropey at the weekends, but that's because of the drug that I'm on, and um I've just basically been told the the life benefits I have um exceed um and I just have to suck it up at the weekends um to have the uh the flexibility that I now have, and I haven't had a flare since last February, um which is huge. We had a bit of a a bit of a something when I had the flu jab, uh but then we realized that's just an immune response. Um and I fell walking the dog, um and I got a bit of a sore hand, but I think in reality, if you fall onto an outstretched hand and you've got the conditions I have, then that's yeah, that might happen.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

That's that's a fairly reasonable thing to expect in some ways.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Yeah, part and parcel of it. So um a big part of it was amending the diet I had, a huge part of it was sleep and rest. Um I have worked, um I do work with other coaches, so I have a nervous system coach, Louise Lewis, and mindset coach, um, Robin McLennan. So it was kind of a three-pronged attach, as such, because you never really know what is mindset and what isn't. Um but I remember doing a certain activity in my business, and I was like, I don't know at all, put my bloods and it was 1.3, and I was like, oh I had felt like that multiple times before and just thought it was because I didn't like the activity I was doing.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

You know how there are things that you do in your business that you don't want it to.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Yes, I I know that I know that feeling for sure. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

And I was like, right, okay, this has been going on for yonks. Um, but we had to get rid of all the other symptoms first for us to be able to see this. Um and the thing that's very good about you is I know how headstrong I am, and um a recent example of this is the sushi conversation. Um somebody in Greg's community put up pictures of their sushi, and I really like sushi, but I can very rarely eat it because paniceliac and most of the soya sauce that comes with them isn't gluten free. And Greg was like in the comments Kelly, we'll talk about this on Friday. And I was uh driving and I was like, no, we're not talking about this on Friday because there is too much faff and Involved in making sushi and it doesn't give me enough protein. So therefore, no, right? We switched straight back to we're just going to carry on eating the tuna and we can dream about sushi one day when I go back to London and there's a place that does it for gluten-free, and I won't have the faff involved in making it because it's a lot of faff, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 22:25

Yeah, it's definitely not easy. It's not easy to make having having seen it being made at home. It's not easy.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Yeah, I mean, but I love it. Um, but yeah. Um, so Greg has to what's the word? Barter with my the rules that I have in my head, I guess, is how we put this, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Yeah, I think um, as you said earlier, you're quite headstrong. And I think, you know, you're a very capable, smart person, so you want to charge ahead and you're very sometimes quite so my role is often sometimes to ask Kelly the right question so she arrives at the point where she doesn't uh want to or if you can be at peace with the resistance that that she might have about something. Um because yeah, I think and I think this happens for a lot of very smart women, it's that whole thing of like I just want I've got my thing, and you just get fixated on the thing rather than what's going on around it, what your thought patterns behind it, etc. And shout out to Robin and Lou, who are awesome, by the way. Um, but I think that's that was really like important for you to have a team, as it were, who could help you with those different things at different points.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Um and the ladies in your group, um I'm autistic and I can literally eat the same thing day in, day out, forever. Like when I was with the consultant about the I've reduced this down to I think at the time Fair sent, he's like, and can you keep this up? And I was like, uh yeah, like my autism will hand handle that for me, right? Um and he was like, Are you sure? And I'm like, Yeah, I can. Um, but with the other ladies in the group, they um some of them have completely different diets to me. I mean I just buy stuff on autopilot and I buy the same things. So for me, when they're talking about different foods, I'm like, Oh, I'll try that, or I'll consider trying it, or I can't find it, or or whatever it happens to be. So um the ladies in the community actually help bring variety into my diet because um I will just continue to eat the same thing because I know that it works, it fits into my timings, my discipline, all the rest of it. Because introducing something new isn't about me trying something new, it's is there something new gonna fit into my environment?

SPEAKER_03 25:12

Just into the structure you've created, right? Because you're very good at creating a structure and nothing shall pass if it does not meet the structure. It's like the Kenny structure. Nope, nope, nope.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Not today.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Not today. Nope, you're not your name's not down, you're not coming in. Um, but I think it's been it's been a bit an interesting journey for you as well, like in terms of your body has changed. Um, but we never set out to kind of change your body composition, lose weight. That was never the reason why you wanted to work with me. It was actually about you just wanted to get your energy and get stronger. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

I think when we started working together, I was 68 kilos, and I have had a life, a previous version of Kelly who would have been on the verge of psychotic or how many calories she was eating. Um, and it wasn't a very good place to be. So when I started working with Greg, I was very resistant to no, I'm not measuring my um circumferences. Um, I'll weigh myself once a month. Um, I still fit in the clothes that I had 20 years ago, right? My body doesn't change that much. Um so I started out at 68 kilos and I'm now 61 and a half or something like that, but we were never there to it was never about losing weight. Um but it just appears to have happened. Um, I think from being more mobile and being more active more than anything else. Like was I still eat like there or thereabouts 1800 calories a day. Um, sometimes it's more, sometimes it's less.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

But we're not fixated on we like we've never we've kind of never really gone right, you know, we're gonna do this big cow deficit or whatever. We've just gone, how do we make sure your food gives you the energy so you can perform? Because I think that was that was always the big thing, and your body composition has changed as a result of the things we've done, implemented you getting stronger, and like you said, being able to be more mobile.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Yes. So I'm walking the dog um every morning on the beach, bar the strong wind warnings, because that's not safe. Um and where I live, it's quite what's the word? We're quite exposed to the elements. Um but yeah, it's not been uh like I probably did get psychotic when I was trying to get down to the 25% carbohydrates. Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna lie there, but that was for a medical reason.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

We were trying to understand what was happening with the body and why it was acting in the way it was, etc.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

And people are like, Well, do you not miss that? And I'm like, if you knew how I felt before, you wouldn't even be like entertaining asking me that, and it was the same when I was a celiac. When I first discovered I was a celiac, it's not uh oh, it's terrible, it's oh you have to end of story, just um grieve the fact that you're never gonna eat nice bread again because the bread is not nice, and uh uh figure out another way of being as such, um and that's what I did.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

Yeah, and it's it's been amazing for me to see the change in like your energy levels, like the you know, the daily right, Greg. I'm out of the dog, I can get penny, is it? Remind me. Yeah, oh my god, right, yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

I could just sleep here at the moment, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Um, and obviously being able to do things at the weekend with your son and stuff and not feel like you're always gonna crash, which I think is uh a huge difference from where you were before.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Yeah, I mean, we still have the emergency kits in the car, I still have stuff in my bag. Um, because if you get in any way, um if your sleep is off or if you're carrying a cold, controlling your blood sugars is a lot harder to do. So there's like a stash of things in my car, my husband's car, um, we'll keep stuff at my mum's, you know, um, and that's just the the way it is. My son's always like, why is there all why have you got sweeps in your bedside cannon?

SPEAKER_03 29:52

You think she's trying to hide them from him?

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Um, but yeah, I mean you just it's like you know, when um mums have to pack their bag for um going to the hospital to have their baby, yeah. Like that's always in the car. There's always a stash in my husband's car. Do you know what I mean? That's just how it's how we roll. Um, and as long as those are there, then um and I always wanted to be, I don't want to say I'm a purist, but there was a time where we were having conversations about supplements, wasn't there? And um people can take supplements, that's fine. But I've always wanted to get my nutrients from my food.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

So the solution to this blood sugar problem has always been food, it's never been about drugs. And when I was with my consultant there in December, he was really impressed with how everything has improved so much. Um like I think at one point my rheumatoid factor was over 150 and it's now at 50, which is still not what they call normal.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Ideal, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

Um but it's way better than over 150. And um my ESR is now in normal, and that hasn't been within normal for however long. And he was like, Now, Kelly, the thing we need to work on here is your iron levels. And I kind of looked at him and went, been like boring, like we've been doing this all my life, my iron levels. And he was like, I would like you to take, and I went, No, I'm not taking any supplements. I am sick of taking tablets, I don't wish to be taking this drug I'm on. I want you to hear that I want to come off of this drug. And he went, You can you have to stay on this drug, you have to be stable for three years before we take you off it. And I'm like, This is not happening. And I went anyway, what about the iron? And he went, right. Well, if you won't take the supplements, then I want you to start eating apricots. And I was like, Yes. I I can eat apricots. So I eat apricots every day to keep my iron levels up because the iron tablets that they give you just rip the stomach clean out of you. It's really not.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

They're not fun. They're not always fun, are they?

SPEAKER_02 32:16

No.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

No. Um so my people recall in my medical team, they know that I don't want to be taking anything that I don't have to. Um and I'm no longer on nepraxin, I'm no longer on Tramadol, um on the metatrexate that I'm on now. And hope to be coming off it as soon as possible.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Awesome. So if you were to summarise, I guess, for anyone who's listening to this and going, okay, maybe I should work with Greg. What what what would you say is the difference is in my approach to what you see in the world?

SPEAKER_01 33:01

You don't tell anybody what to do, which is a great in my PDA. Um you look at what they're doing and figure out where the habit is being broken to allow them to change um the pattern, and it's not about diet, it's about a lifestyle. I think that's the difference. Um because everything that I've created is about been being able to build it into the life that works for me and my family. Because if you're trying to force a um square peg into a round hole, it doesn't matter how much you try or how much discipline you do it. So you figure out how um we can integrate this stuff into our working world as such. Sometimes that looks like the calendar, you know, the diary, sometimes that looks like the food you're eating, sometimes that looks like the um the sleep pattern, depending on what's going on. Um but yes, and this whole I'm gonna say forced rest was actually what was the key. Um because I've like my parents are hard workers, grafters, that's what's ever been modeled to me, and I was just continuing on that pattern because I didn't know any difference. But to have Greg on the side going, Kelly, is this what you should be doing? You know, it's is not saying Kelly, stop doing it, saying Kelly, is this what you should be doing?

SPEAKER_03 34:45

Is is this identity that you're working and being, is it actually benefiting you? Is the question. Is this supporting you, Kelly, or is it not?

SPEAKER_01 34:57

Yeah, um, but I know I can be very headstrong, um, but there are a few people I can listen to.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

You headstrong? Never.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Um, so yeah, I'm just lucky that um of the the people that I've chosen to work with um from coaching perspective, but also my consultants, they work with me. Um because I would automatically put my heels in if somebody was trying to say do this or or do that.

SPEAKER_03 35:32

Yeah, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

A lot of strong women in business, you don't become a woman in business by being easily walked over, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Is that yeah, I'd I'd agree that you have to be quite tough um and quite forceful to force your way through many things in in business, I think, for women. So yeah, you're not gonna be a um what's the word? No, I can't think of the word. This is your thought. That's the one, yeah. You're not gonna be like lie down and just take things at all. So yeah, I totally agree with you. But I think there's also that part of yes, you can be a powerful woman in your work and be absolutely a superstar, but if you don't rest and recover, then eventually that power drains.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

And that was the bit that was missing. Um, because in my degree I was taught to, you know, take people from moment of injury through to full functional fitness, and that was all I focused on. Yet we were taught rest and recovery was important, and I completely admitted that part from my own process. Yeah, and then when I reflected on it, I was like, oh, you know, like I I probably did shame myself because I thought I would say it to other people, oh, just didn't Not to me, not to myself, not to myself.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

Yeah, I totally agree. I see that so many, so many times. Like you tell family members, oh, you needed to rest, you need to relax. And there's me in the background going, Are you resting? Tell me, tell me what's the story with that? What's the what's the narrative you got there? Let's let's unpick that, shall we?

SPEAKER_01 37:20

Yeah, so rest and recovery was the bit that I had completely admitted um from my life. And I was just trying to figure out how I could get through these inconveniences because I wanted to achieve X, Y, and Z.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

And I think the beautiful thing out of all of this is actually you're able to be more, I will say in inverted commas productive, but you're able to be able to do more now. You've changed how you do your work, you've you've changed so many things that actually benefit you now with that approach of rest uh and recuperation in mind as well.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Yes, and I also, if I'm not feeling it now, I'm not saying that I am meandering to my feelings, but I don't push through anymore. I have a window of tolerance that I work in. And if I know I'm at a certain level, then I just don't, and I'm like, there's really nothing that's gonna happen if I don't do this. And you know, there's always I can do this tomorrow. Um, I'll never let it go till next week, next month. I know that because of the trust that I have within myself, but there's very rarely anything that needs dealt with um overnight.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

That there is the mic drop, ladies who are listening to that. There's nothing that needs to be done immediately, very rarely, very rarely. So I guess my last question then is if you if there's a woman listening and is like on the fence of working with me, what would you say to them?

SPEAKER_01 38:55

Um just I wouldn't have got to where I am without the support that I've had because I would have continued on being headstrong, and the people around me, um even if they had challenged me, I wouldn't have listened because they didn't have the expertise that I needed to have the challenging conversations that Greg and I have had. Um like it's not all been sweetness and light, has it? There's been times I've been like, but Greg, what about this? Do you remember the quality of the chicken conversation, Greg? Is that a good enough chicken?

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Yeah, I remember that, yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Um but he's very patient and um but also very reasoned. Um and you when you come into his community, there are other ladies within his community that I have learned from as well. Um so it's if you're thinking about it, take the take the step and um message him and see what comes. He knows he's not for everybody, and he doesn't want to be for everybody. So take the step, ask the question, and hopefully I'll see you in his community.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Thank you. Love to hear it. Um I would I would also just say um it's been uh it's been fun, challenging working with you two. But I would also like to just highlight to um listeners that Kelly knows her stuff around business and the numbers and the thought processes that you go through as a business owner. So I would heavily suggest I'm gonna ask Kelly to provide all the links for the show notes. I would have you suggest if you're in business and you're wanting to grow and you're confused about why you're not growing, Kelly will probably be able to tell you in a bit of a in a heartbeat by listening to what you say, the data you present where things are not where they should be for you, and she can she can um give you that expert eye and a plan of attack of how to um fix it without all of the fluff.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah, and without uh over it in itself also.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Yeah, and without like burning out um there'll be many occasions where Kelly's gone, Greg, should you be doing that um because of her expert eye and being able to do that? So, ladies, and if there's any gent, um Kelly's notes Kelly's details would be in the show notes so you can follow her and get her expert eye in your business and how you can make life easier for you. Any last words from you today, Carl?

SPEAKER_01 41:48

No, thank you very much. Um rest is best.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

And rest is the is the most under Do you know what? Actually, I'll have to say this very quickly. I was told by a kind of uh marketing business coach to not mention rest in my marketing. And I was like, but that's the one thing that most of these high-performing women need the most because of the narrative of I must work, work, work, which I need then needs to burn out. So yeah, they need to feel that the space is okay to not always do every day. Um, it's not a boot camp, it's not uh we're not in the army, we don't need to do that all the time. Your body needs rest in recovery. Your brain like you guys are brain athletes. That's why I call you guys brain athletes and athlete rest.

SPEAKER_01 42:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:47

Exactly. Okay, thank you for being on the show. And if you listen to us, it's a pleasure. It's been a pleasure working with you as well. And if you're listening to this, leave a five star review, share this podcast with any other business owner who is feeling challenged with how they perform and how they start for themselves. And we can definitely help you. All right, let's be soon to you on our side. Bye.