It's Supposed to be Heavy | HEAVYISH Method By Jermiah Blount

How Lifting Heavy Reversed His Diabetes in 90 days

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No Pain, All Gain: How Heavy Strength Training Reverses Age and Builds True Confidence

In this episode, personal trainer Jermiah Blount, creator of the Heavyish Method in Franklin, Tennessee, sits down with his client, Thomas Scott. Thomas shares his remarkable seven-month transformation, detailing how he lost 55 pounds, reversed his type 2 diabetes, and dramatically reclaimed his physical youth. 

The duo breaks down why old-school barbell compound movements (under strict supervision) are superior to traditional cardio and complex gym machines for building lifelong core strength and mental resilience.

00:34 - I Didn't Do It to Lose Weight - I Felt Like 70
03:22 - My Trainer Told Me Not to Worry About Diet or Cardio
04:47 - From Full-Out Diabetic to a 5.0 A1C in 90 Days
05:54 - The Accountability Asset: Why You Won't Lift Heavy Alone
07:11 - I Squatted My Wife Five Times and Shocked My Family
08:52 - Why My Friends Gym Every Day and Look the Same
10:14 - From Age 9 to 80: Who Shouldn't Strength Train?
11:34 - Why I Pay My Corporate Staff to Lift Weights

"I felt like a 70-year-old man, not a 55-year-old man... I went from 70 to 30. Like it was a crazy thing. And I'm much stronger. I can do things. I can get off the ground. My balance is better. My posture's better."

"Keep it simple, stupid... Why don't you just start going? Just be consistent. Go. Once you've gotten consistent with going, start making small changes."

"Strength makes you harder to kill, right? It does... It's not just, oh, I can pick up 315 from a deadlift in the gym, but now I can go out and do all these things."

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About Jermiah Blount: Jermiah has harbored a deep passion for health, fitness, and strength ever since his tenure in the Air Force. He finds fulfillment in assisting individuals in enhancing their lives by promoting strength, well-being, and proper nutrition through the utilization of Heavyish principles.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome to It's Supposed to Be Heavy with Jeremiah Blunt, a show about strength, longevity, and building a body that carries you well for decades. Because resistance creates adaptation. And some things are supposed to be heavy. Let's get to work.

SPEAKER_02

Hi, I'm Jeremiah Blunt, the creator of Heaviest Method. I'm a personal trainer out of Franklin, Tennessee. Today I'm here with Thomas Scott, one of my clients that I've been training now for upwards of seven months. And we're going to talk today about how strength training has impacted and changed his life.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, great. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_02

It's a pleasure. It's been a really cool journey. Yes, sir. So what's some of the biggest things that have you noticed that has impacted your life?

SPEAKER_01

I think I would begin at the beginning. I started, I'm 55. I'm 56 now. When I started, I was way overweight. I've lost almost 55 pounds since we started, but I didn't really do it to lose weight. I was diabetic. I didn't have energy. And more importantly, after I'd been on a GLP one for several years for diabetes, I just lost a lot of mud. It was a week. I felt like a 70-year-old old man, not a 55-year-old man. I got to where I couldn't lift things. It was hard to get off the ground and I was just tired all the time. And my doctor said, How you should lift weights? And I was like, I don't know anything about that. I've never lifted weights. I've never touched a barbell, not a gym guy or a gym bro. And I found you guys, and it was a huge transformation.

SPEAKER_02

What were some of the beginning challenges that you faced when you first started working with me?

SPEAKER_01

Not being a gym person, in my mind, you think about gym bros and barbells and really heavy stuff, and you think about all the roid rage. The guys with the huge muscles, I run a company, I've got kids. That's not less speed. That was a real intimidating thing to me, even though it made a lot of sense. And I've always wanted to learn how to lift weights. But I wasn't an athlete in school, so nobody ever taught me. I didn't learn it at the high school gym. And if I would tell people, I would tell my wife, I think I want to lift weights. She goes, You'll hurt yourself. You're too old to do that. You're on your back, or you're gonna hurt this, or you shouldn't do that, or you should lift little things, or go for a walk, or go run, or do cardio. And I tried several times in my life to to diet aggressively and go out and run or do cardio or some other kind of thing, and it would work for a very short period of time, and then the weight would come right back, and it was it never felt right.

SPEAKER_02

So you know, and I've touched base on this before. It's a life change, not necessarily a diet, right? So the small things will add up and consistency. You don't have to go hammer out straight out the door, you don't have to eat chicken and rice all the time, you don't have to do all these things where people have this intimidation of, oh, I've got to cut out everything I like to eat. I gotta stop doing this, I gotta stop doing this. When reality, it's the small things, right? Why don't you just start going? Right? Just be consistent and go. Once you've gotten consistent with going, start making small changes, right? If you eat out every day, why don't you start eating out three times a week, right? Just start there. Just that little bit of reduction can help.

SPEAKER_01

We started it two days a week for an hour a day. And you said that we're gonna start with four lifts, which we're still doing today, of at least the number of days. We did a deadlift and a spot and an audio breast and a bitch breast stuff. I had not done any of those ever. And what I liked about it as a customer was that it was one-on-one in the beginning, and we have a couple of classes where it's me and one other person or me and two other people. It's in a room with a squat rack and some weights and some dumbbells. There's not mirrors, I'm not in a planet fitness with a bunch of guys. It was really intimidating because that technique I've learned was so important to learn. Yeah. And I haven't pulled myself. So I've gotten really strong.

SPEAKER_02

And all that is by design, right? We don't have mirrors because people and vanity go hand in hand. You want to look at yourself when you're not supposed to look at yourself, and people are very nosy. People like to look out the window. What's Mr. Joe doing in the parking lot? Why is there someone getting pulled over in the parking lot? All these things are distractions, even a bird, the weather, all these things are being distraction. And when you need to be in proper form, you don't need to be turning your head, you don't need to do these things. And you pay me as a coach. So you trust me and you respect me to know what I know and to tell you what to do. So it's that trust between us that we've created. And you know, it's like, hey, if he says something, I need to listen and I need to do it because it's a safety issue.

SPEAKER_01

It was really interesting that I didn't realize the first month or so we did it, and it wasn't really heavy weight. The recovery was a little rough in the beginning, but it got better much faster. And then we've gone up a little bit every week, every time we go, it goes up. And my PR week last week was really phenomenal. Yeah, it was really good. I'm squatting 375 or you know, deadlifting, getting closer to four plates every day. It's just way more weight than I ever thought I would do. But what really struck me in the beginning is you're saying, Don't worry about your diet and don't worry about cardio. I was like, When did I hear that right? The trainer said, Don't worry about your diet, don't worry about coming in and being consistent with lifting heavy weights. Yes, sir. That was the whole thing that I think that caught me was when lifting as heavy as you can, not definitely.

SPEAKER_02

We're we're lifting as heavy as we can with proper technique.

SPEAKER_01

And it was interesting to me is we would do a set of four lifts, then we'd sit and talk for three or four minutes, then do another set of four, and then sit and talk. I felt like it was cheating. I didn't really feel I was burning a lot of calories, but no, it wasn't my idea of working out with a trainer where they would get on a treadmill and you're sweaty. It's like a CrossFit workout. It wasn't anything like that, it was way psychologically easier.

SPEAKER_02

It has, it's, I don't want to say it's necessarily easier, it's just different, right? We're focusing on things that were other trainers or focusing on keeping that heart rate up, burning those calories, and go. I'm focused on building that muscle mass. I'm focused on building strength. My focus point is to make you better in your life. And as you are on your journey, yeah, you can make those decisions on your own, right? I'm allowing you to have that little switch turn in your brain where it's like, I've come this far and this is what I've done. What if I do a little bit more? Remember, we focus on little things, right? Maybe you want to focus on diet, maybe you want to walk a few extra steps each day. Maybe you want to do these little things when altogether it's gonna add up by the end of the week. And now you made all these life changes that were such easy changes for you, and not necessarily what a lot of coaches may say, hey, you need to do this, you need to do this, which everything everything has its own place.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you got me to start eating more protein, for instance, and really paying attention to just start there, just eat a gram per body weight, whatever it was a couple hundred grams of proteins. I weigh about 240, 250.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, that was that was the easy way to have people do it. It's not exactly one gram per body weight, but yeah, if I went into it, you would be like, now I gotta do all this calculation where I can just be like, all right, I need to do this. This is easy. Yeah, let's use the term kiss, keep it simple, stupid.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it was like eating protein and getting in the habit of eating protein. Then like a few weeks later, I found myself just eating cleaner just because you're, I guess it's more satiating, you don't feel hungry.

SPEAKER_02

But it's these lower calorie foods that you can have a little bit more of, and you're gonna feel full, right? Yeah, and then also as we lift heavy and we're spiking the metabolism, balancing out your sugar things on those lines, you're not necessarily getting those sugar spikes like you normally would. And you're just sometimes just not as hungry.

SPEAKER_01

When I went from when I started, I was just flow out diabetic, like an A1C in the eights or nines or somewhere really up there. And it's right at five. Now it's not even pre-diabetic, like within 90 days of just doing it. In fact, I the health benefits were so extreme to me on a personal level, it was like I feel like I'm 30. I went 40 years backwards, I went from 70 to 30. It was a crazy thing, and I'm much stronger. I can do things, I can get off the ground, I can my balance is better, my posture is better.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Just the benefits you get from lifting heavy, which hasn't been hard. There are days where if it's a deadlift day, it's it's brutal. But it's also it feels safe. My back doesn't hurt, I haven't hurt my legs. In fact, and it was interesting to learn about the things that like I find myself paying much more attention to the way I sleep and how much water I drink, whether or not I have electrolytes, or whether like my stress level, like it's dramatically reduced my stress level. Excellent.

SPEAKER_02

When that's what you were just talking about, things being hurt. Do you feel like going to a personal trainer doing something along this was the perfect route for you? Do you feel like if you tried something like that outside of a controlled environment, you would have been as successful as you are now?

SPEAKER_01

No, and I got the bug for working out. So I built like a crazy home gym that's beautiful, it's nice as the one we work out in. But I can tell you that the accountability for somebody my age who runs a business, who has family, who's busy all the time. Like I need somebody to watch what I'm doing and pay attention to me, and I don't mind paying for the attention. The accountability part of it's really important. There's no way I would lift that heavy by myself that consistently. I do a few reps and I'd be okay, that's really heavy. I'm just done. There's nobody to tell you, okay, we got four more reps, or let's go up a little bit, or like that's too much. Take it off. But wait on, you're gonna hurt yourself.

SPEAKER_02

At the same time, you know, not ego lifting as well. Yeah, I push you in the gym, but there's also those times where you feel like, I think I got a little bit more, but yet I'm there to keep you accountable and be like, do you really need a little bit more, or is this where we need to be? Because right now you're at perfect form. Yeah, you're lifting the weight, you're lifting heavy, you're taxing the system, but yet if you push it a little bit more, now we're starting to break form.

SPEAKER_01

And we do a PR week every two or three months or so. We'll come back and see where you let it go. As far as you can and keep your form good. And I think before I did the first one, I was like, I think I can lift more than that. I'm just feeling stronger than I actually was. And then you did the first one, and the games were so much higher than the reps. And then the second time we did it, I was like shocked at like how much stronger I was. Like, I just can't believe that I could hit that number. Like it was my age. I just I didn't think that was possible. No, so the whole supervised lifting, which I think if you're my age or older, you should be doing it supervised. You should be working with somebody. Like, I like it'd be foolish not to, because you could hurt yourself. And if you didn't hurt yourself, you wouldn't lift heavy enough or you'd lift too heavy. You just wouldn't get the it's almost like you and you say this all the time, saying you have to trust the process. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Consistent and trust the process. Yeah. As we go on, is there anything outside of the gym that we've done that has impacted your life that, hey, I didn't think I could do it at my age, or I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I could tell you my wife weighs like 130 pounds or so. I would try to pick her up always. And she goes, You can't pick me up on too heavy. You're gonna hurt your back. That's what she would always think. She's my we're the same, similar age. And after we did our first PR week, I think I did 315 or something. I said, I think I could squat you. She's like, No, you can't do it. And I threw her over my shoulder, joking around, but I threw her over my shoulder and she didn't weigh very much, heavy at all. Like 120 pounds or 130 pounds doesn't sound like a lot. And I squatted her five times, and my girls thought it was amazing. Okay, put me down. Okay, you're legitimately strong, but just the idea that I could physically do something that extreme, it was shocking. It was a fun family moment for us as a family. It was cool.

SPEAKER_02

But also outside of just that fun family moment, it makes you feel more like a man, it makes you feel like strength I talked about before. Strength makes you harder to kill, right? It does. And yeah, when that's some of the things that we can look like outside of our life, it's not just, oh, I can pick up 315 from a deadlift in the gym, but now I can go out and do all these things of maybe someone has horses and they have big bags of feed or tossing hay bales, like all these things can now correlate because you built that core strength outside of the gym.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my wife's uh she's like farmer strong, she's a really strong, naturally strong, you know, like really thin but small. And she runs a custom closet business and they have a couple of thousand pounds of lumber on a truck often, and she'll unload it herself sometimes. And a couple of times I used to help her, I didn't have the energy to do it or was hard or it hurt my back. So I'd pull out if something wrong. But I I can hop on and load the whole truck by myself and not even break a sweat, which is stuff that it does feel good, and it's also getting a little more fit, and I've still got a ways to go. But I went down a shirt size, I lost a bunch of weight. I feel better about myself. People treat you differently in a business meeting when they know you're working out and it's also the confidence of the way you carry yourself.

SPEAKER_02

When you know fitness is a journey, right? It is a marathon, it isn't a sprint, it's gonna take time. But when people know you put in that work, and not only that, you know that you're putting the work in yourself, you carry yourself with a bit of more confidence, right? You can walk into a room and your shoulders are nice and full, you know, your chest is out a little bit. And I'm not, I don't want to be cocky about it, but it just it makes you feel good, right? When people are like, wow, have what have you been doing? Have you been working out? And then you can tell them, and then you're like, Yeah, I pulled 420 pounds off the ground the other day, and they're like, What?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's crazy. Uh and the pictures are cool when you do videos of it, it's really fun to watch. And I show my kids and they think it's kind of cool, but and then they like to work out. They've it's become a family thing for us. But what's interesting to me is that I have a lot of friends that go to the gym the same amount of time that I do, and they don't look any different than they did when they started. Yeah, but I'm not sure what people do in the gym, but the stuff that we do there just we're not bodybuilding. I'm not gonna be a ripped 60-year-old guy or anything, but the uh just the amount of just sheer strength, like your bones are stronger, balance is better, my metabolism's better, I'm not overeating, I'm just like a substantially healthier person. A doctor is amazed, like she thinks it's amazing. Okay, and I don't know why they don't refer more people to strength training or why people miss out on just and it's because you everything we do is with a barbell and plate. It's not cables or any of the other stuff that you do in the gym. Why is that? Why is it barbells?

SPEAKER_02

When it comes to strength and being able to utilize your body and being able to utilize it naturally, and also we don't do a lot of single movement isolation movements, right? And it's because when we do a lower back squat, you're utilizing your lower posterior chain, you're using both legs, we're keeping everything balanced. And that's what I push is balance when you lift. That's why I don't necessarily let my clients do a switch grip things along those lines because we want to keep everything balanced. If we haven't got to the point where we can't keep it balanced, yeah, and we have to adjust our body for it, then that's going to put our body in an imbalanced way. And with a barbell, you know, it's straight, right? So when you're squat, you're there, when you're deadlifting, you're there, you're bench pressing, you're here. Yeah. And when you go into the gyms, a lot of people will try to start off with their strong side because it makes them feel good, right? So if you're doing a dumbbell bench press and you're going for, depending on what style of training, but let's just say you're doing reps of a 12 to 15, right? And they'll start off with their strong side with a lot more weight and they'll get up to 15. Yeah. But then when they switch to their weak side, they'll maybe do it the first time, second time, maybe a few left rest, and then a few reps less, and then they're starting to have imbalances in the body.

SPEAKER_01

But it's and strength isn't just for people 40 and older. You have a lot of clients in that thing. You have people that are younger, you have athletes, you have somebody that's in their 80s. And it's almost like who shouldn't do strength training? Like, why wouldn't anybody?

SPEAKER_02

Me personally, I think I've trained clients as young as nine years old and up, and strength training is literally for everybody. Um when you are creating that mindset about things, right? Because it's not just strength. When we push ourselves in the gym like that and you build that confidence of lifting the heavier weight off the ground versus curling a lighter weight so many times, which everything has their place, but it builds that confidence in a person, right? As an athlete can get stronger. Maybe I may take on a client that has anxiety or they don't feel good about themselves or just some type of mental state. And when I can get them in there and get them in a routine, now they're built a routine. Now they're doing things that they never thought they could do. I never thought I could bench press 135 pounds. I never thought I could bench press 225. Now they're getting into these things they never thought they could do. Now you're building that confidence. Now you're changing your whole aspect on life. Like, I can do these things now. I can do this. Now let's put in the work and do more.

SPEAKER_01

What do you say to people who are intimidated by let me like my wife? You say, Well, that's a barbell. It's so rough.

SPEAKER_02

At my gym, especially, we have bars, aluminum bars that are 15 pounds. They go up to 22, 33, 45. We have different bars so that way we can start off of that person's strength level. I'm not gonna have a nine-year-old bench press a 45-pound bar. I'm not gonna have a petite woman that's never been in the gym just getting started and just put her under this grueling, grueling workout where she's so sore, it everything hurts, and then she's I just don't want to go back. I hate this. And then once you get that in your mindset, yeah, it's hard for people to go back. But if I can get you in there, start you off with the appropriate weight that you need to be at to progress, and then put you in a comfortable environment where I worked hard, but it just didn't kill me, right? Yeah. If I can get you at that starting point, then get you consistent, then that's where everything's gonna change for you. And it's like I'll put this much more, I'll put this much more, I'll put this much more. And it's happened every single time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it might not like do the whole idea of progressive overload where you put two and a half or five pounds. Exactly. It's small costs. And they're heavy.

SPEAKER_02

One pound of weight is so heavy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's funny after you put it on, but it's the heaviest weight in the gym. Yeah, but it's amazing. One of the things I noticed was that it reduced my stress level. It just overall throughout the week, especially when I went to more days, really reduced my stress. In fact, I started to train, I have a staff, like a company class where my employees come once a week and do strength training as a group, and it's been really good team building for them. It's also very good for their stress levels. And they've all progressed. And they'll all say, like, oh, it's three o'clock, I don't want to go, I'm busy, I got too much to do. And I'll make them go just to plan for it. And they text at the end of the time, they're like, Oh wow, like that was really glad I went. And I believe I did this much weight. So we talk about it in the office. It's been a really fun, yeah, what a great write-off for a business owner to have if you have employees for sure.

SPEAKER_02

It really is, and then it builds camaraderie between your employees because they'll get in there and they'll cheer for each other or they'll motivate each other, or if you're a competitive person, just having that competitiveness with somebody else just changes the whole atmosphere of it. And it's really fun for me as a coach, and I know it's fun for the clients as well.

SPEAKER_01

It's not an inexpensive thing to do personal training, but it's a reasonable price point for what you get. Like at my age, like I think I would just keep doing it indefinitely or some version of it at some point. Because it if I stop, even now, if I go for several days without working out, even just a little bit, I'll feel grouchy. I'll feel good. It's become a habit.

SPEAKER_02

You know, when you put your body under that much stress and you're working out super hard like that, at the end of it, your body's gonna reward you with that endorphin kick and you're gonna feel it. I know when I've had plenty of clients, which I don't mind it. I've had people grouchy with me or cussy with me, or just when they're experiencing their journey, it's just why are you making me do this? Why, or even try to negotiate with me. It's like, I don't want to do this, let's do this. But you and me as a coach, I got to stand firm and I, you know, I have a reason for what I do things, and by the end of it, they're leaving, and then I'll get a text letters, and I just feel absolutely wonderful today.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of it, so we don't use smurf machines, it's just a lot of it, like our squats are just barbell back squats and the deadlifts are just real deadlifts out of the middle of the open. But the compound movements of strength that you do that you focus so much on do a lot more than just build your arms and chest and legs, it's like your whole body. Like I don't really deadlift, like feel like every muscle from my toe to my head gets somehow worked out, and like my whole body, it's like yeah, you're just like I was like, Don't I need to do sit-ups or work on a treadmill? You're like, no.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, and people have heard this a thousand times over. Abs are made in the kitchen, and that's absolutely true. It's all about diet, but we're not talking about abs and things like that, and people get that confused. We talk about core strength. Yeah. And core strength is what keeps us upright, it you know, allows us to keep that posture and everything. And when we deadlift and we're using our proper breathing techniques and things along those lines, you're getting your core workout. And a strong core protects your back, it's gonna relieve a lot of that back pain that you receive. And that's why, again, I'm gonna have to really harp on the deadlift because when you're coming up and you're hinging and you're pushing through and that core's locked in, your back's firing off, your core's firing off, your lower posterior chain's firing off. It's just one of the most outstanding movements, I feel. And it gets a lot of hate in certain communities, but I absolutely, without a doubt, if I can choose.

SPEAKER_01

But I started, you had a gentleman that was in his mid 80s still doing heavy deadlift. He would look like a frail grandpa, and he would get but I think the truth is no matter how weak you are or how old you are, you could start with a really lightweight and just weak.

SPEAKER_02

But it doesn't have to be these big, huge jumps. That I've cut ego lifting out of my gym. And essentially, like we said, the 2.5, if you could jump up 2.5 pounds from your previous week on a lift, you're improving. You're over there, you're getting stronger. And with the small things, I can't harp enough on small things, the little changes, it comes with little weights as well. Yeah, like how many times have we put those on and you were just like it feels 20, 30 pounds? A little one and a half pound weight. Yeah, but yet you pull it up though, right? Like if we would have done sometimes most of the time, give yourself more credit. Uh, if we would have done that with five pounds or ten pounds, you know, would that still have been the same? Yeah, you possibly could have pulled it up, but it'd been with form absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's the big thing in dumbbells and barbells, is that the increments are so much smaller on the you can make little tiny jumps for 10-pound jumps, right? Yeah, which works really well. And what do you see? Why don't more people do this? Like, why are they afraid to do strength trainer? They just don't know.

SPEAKER_02

People are afraid to get hurt. I think that's the biggest thing. There's so many machines out there, there's so many different things. A lot of affordable gyms don't necessarily focus on old school methods, they just pop a machine in the there you go, there's for your chest, or this yeah. And like I said, everything has its place, but when it comes down to true strength, it's not gonna correlate the same, right? Yeah. Doing a Smith machine squat, it's just your body dynamics. Could you put yourself in the proper position? Yes. Is every Smith machine set up the same way? Absolutely not. It's gonna open up the risk to getting injured, and then you know, if you make all this progress and then you're off one day, you know, and you're trying to overload the bar with a Smith machine and you get hurt, now you're putting back six months of progress. Everything has its risks, everything has its rewards, but when your body dynamics is in the proper position with the lower back squat and things along those lines, uh proper breathing techniques, keeping that spine in line, like you're limiting the factor of being an injury by so much. It's just I talked to a doctor a while back and with a client and everything, and he was telling me that pretty much all the injuries he sees are people in uh situations in the gym where they don't have a trainer or is supervised.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's the key is at my age, yeah, injuries I mean injury of any kind. You could trip and fall on the sidewalk because you don't have enough strength to stick your leg out. That's more dangerous than deadlifting, probably end of the day. But just having somebody supervise you is a way to develop the strength proper.

SPEAKER_02

And it's like and even in our sessions, there's the little things that I harp on and the deadlift. Um, can you have a bad deadlift and twin something? Absolutely. Yeah, but the biggest thing is listen to the coach and follow what he says because we talk about drifting and things along the line, swaying out and where it puts pressure and where it doesn't pull pressure. Like when you're in proper form and you pull that weight from the ground, how does it feel versus when even the heavier weight it doesn't hurt my back at all?

SPEAKER_00

Thanks for listening to It's Supposed to Be Heavy with Jeremiah Blount. Train hard, recover well, stay capable, and remember aging is mandatory. Weakness is optional. See you next time.