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002: Justin Avalos: What If the Hard Thing Heals You? Run Your Race
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We catch up with our friend Justin Avalos and follow his shift from chronic knee and foot pain to a full-on marathon mindset built through physical therapy, strength training, and stubborn consistency. We also get real about divorce, faith, depression, and why “run your race” can be the simplest way to survive a hard season and come out stronger.
• a quick posture check and collective breath to settle in
• how we met in the military and why we started creating content together
• building endurance through time on foot instead of chasing pace
• Justin's divorce and the moment he commits to a marathon promise
• race-day reality: pain, dehydration, cramping, and finishing anyway
• running as therapy and active meditation when life gets loud
• beginner advice: start with a 5K, walk if needed, find community support
• avoiding the comparison trap and focusing on your own pace
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Cold Open And Reset Breath
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So guess what, everybody? We just press record. Coming to you with episode two of your daily dose, brought to you by KPTZ. I'm your host, Luther. This is my um great friend that I have on the on today's episode. His name is Justin Avalos. Hey Justin.
SPEAKER_01Hey, how's it going, man?
SPEAKER_00You like how I just like went straight into it.
SPEAKER_01I really want you to be like, this is the Coffee Time podcast.
SPEAKER_00I love that you brought it up. I actually thought like you were going to uh say it, but so deep cut about man six years. You know what? Oh, hey, if you're sitting in the car, laying down, on a walk, on a beach, in a park, wherever you're at, let's adjust that posture before we take your daily dose. So let's all take a nice inhale and a collective one. Go now. Inhale. Hold at the top and get a little more. And open mouth exhale with our wonderful. Now squeeze the butt together. Energize that spine. Nice tall posture. And let's fall into it.
Coffee Time Origins And Military Roots
SPEAKER_00So Justin just made a reference, uh, Coffee Time Podcast. That was our first crack at a podcast when we um what is it? So you'll say like what is it, peace permanent change of duty state? Whatever, when you transfer. We were in the military, that's how we met. And we were stationed in San Diego, California, but then we have to do um go to Washington State in 2019. So we decided right before we left to start a podcast called um Coffee Time. And yeah, that was just a deep cut. How you doing, bud?
SPEAKER_01Uh I've been decent, surviving, you know, could be a lot better.
SPEAKER_00Hey man, better is always good, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. I've been definitely taking care of my health a lot lately. You know, I'm actually doing physical therapy now, so you know, getting my body right, eating a lot better, doing a um calorie deficit, and getting into the gym a lot more and taking care of my mental health too.
SPEAKER_00Hell yeah, hell yeah. And guys, you're going to um if you become an avid listener listener here, you're going to hear Justin's voice a lot. Uh huh. We have a ton of stories and uh experiences to share, but also we have a ton of things in the future that I just know that we're going to experience together. Um he talked about physical um therapy. Uh we he has gotten me into which I find just out of this like crazy. I used to preach that you should not run the law of diminishing returns and everything, and this guy um got me to sign up for a half marathon uh this year. We uh completed it together in uh Las Vegas. It was a rock and roll uh half marathon, and it was awesome. I feel like I'm gonna do it um unless like something is just like I just can't do it. I'm gonna do it for the rest of my life because it was it was such a cool event and experience. But I cannot believe I used to preach, I'm like, I was always into movement, steps, neat, get your steps, 10k steps, hike, walking, um, but running no. And this guy got me into um running, which I find is crazy.
Physical Therapy Knees And Running
SPEAKER_00So, what's going on with your physical therapy? What's uh what's bugging you, what's aching you?
SPEAKER_01Um, you know, it's the usual thing. You know, my feet have been always a problem of mine, then of course my knees. You know, I remember uh y'all used to always make fun of my knees in the military. I always complain about them.
SPEAKER_00Dude, you were the um we used to call you the up kid, you remember? Like the chubby little cute up kid. Well, you're not you're not cute though, so don't even get that. But um he you know, when he's walking, he's like, my knees hurt, and he just falls.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you know, I had messed up knees, you know. I just always had this uh chronic pain for years, and you know, whenever I started this whole running journey, I knew I needed to really cope with that and figure out how to deal with you know that pain with the training I was doing for the marathon I completed last year. And luckily I was able to get through it, but this year, you know, I've really added in strength training and different things like that. And I recently um a few weeks back completed another marathon beach debate here in Corpus Christi.
SPEAKER_00Let's go.
SPEAKER_01And I saw that, man, like my recovery time like was cut in half. My actual time of finishing, I saved off about 30 minutes of running time. So just being able to finally start taking care of myself the proper way and doing what I'm supposed to be doing, I'm seeing like it's definitely made an improvement on everything. I mean, I'm already down what 15 pounds, and that's just from eating better, you know, not over start eating and you know, not eating out as much, doing my meal preps, things like that. So I've definitely been seeing a change for sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and dude, you know, it's so funny. You bring up the knees comment, and um, and you know, the f it was not my first thought of mind was uh you know, since I'm in this new not new, but I guess um just evolving into when I hear someone's in pain, I just want to help them get out of it. Like and whatever that causes. Is is it weight loss, is it um is it stretching mobility, yoga, is it just general stress release? Because a lot of people don't understand like some at some time that they're injuries because your body's so wound up, and we're both veterans, and boy, what I know about veterans is we live our life like our fists are constantly clenched. I mean our hands are in a fist position, that's what I'm trying to say. So uh, but my second thought was the was the my knees and everything. But dude, I think your journey into this is uh so so crazy because um let's just take it back in the past. Um and I kind of want to talk about how um like if if you can share and while while we we go back and you know just talk about some history between me and you, and on on the physical side of like you running in the military doing your uh physical fitness test twice a year, and then now doing a f dude, you've done how many two marathons and what how many how many half marathons?
SPEAKER_01I've done two marathons, uh officially only two halves, but I you know, whenever I do my training, I do it a couple of times.
SPEAKER_00Which is which is dude, I I'm still blown away. So while we go down this journey and uh just recap some things or or revisit, I mean, I want you to think about like and if you can just like a graceful way to try to encourage someone to run because I think you can put it in a better way than I can, because how you know I've always known to like be physical. Like I am like, okay, I I have to run. And I hear hear this and I see this with a lot of people in their fitness journey or in their journey in life, they're just like, uh, I hate working out. Like I I just hate it. I'm like, yeah, you don't suppose and like in my mind, I'm like, I love that I do find joy in it. I recognize that I do find joy in it. But I also recognize that I don't need to find joy, I just need to do it. Yeah. Which is uh which some people they don't feel that way, and I don't I don't like um fault him at all because um it's you know physical fitness is such a weird thing. I used to think you had like and I still do, so you know, I will always say you need to lift some weight, you need to get your hands on on some iron, but you don't have to because we live in this world now with like like these awesome advanced machines if you want to go there, or like these really cool yoga practices that focuses on like like really like nice holds that develop great strength or sandbag training or whatever. But um, yeah, man, uh I don't wanna I wanna just give you to the you um the space to speak for a little bit and just talk about like your journey into this like marathon mindset, like and and and take us back to kind of where we met, you know.
Friendship Built Through Creating Together
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so uh like you say, you know, we've been in the military, uh, we were in the same division, you know, we crossed paths a bunch and we hung out in the same circles, but you know, me and you didn't get off on the right hand at first, but then you know, the more we hung out, the more we started learning about each other and everything like that. We became really close. And like you say, you know, me and you had a common um love of YouTube and wanting to create content. So one of the first things we did after that deployment where me and you became close was film a challenge video together, uh going to Old Town, San Diego, and doing a random challenge of just kind of getting out of our shelves, talking to strangers and taking photos of them and seeing who could take a better photo.
SPEAKER_00Spoiler alert on one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And it's still it's so funny because that memory actually came up on my Facebook. And I'm just like, man, like it's so crazy, like how kind of where we started knowing each other and then just becoming so close that it was just a recurring thing where we just started hanging out, filming together, taking these trips, doing these different things together, and just really getting to know each other. And you know, now how many years later, and we're still close and you know, still talk as much as possible. But yeah, you know, going to the running thing, you know, in the military, I was a good brother, never a strong runner, bro. Like I I knew I passed every time because I would throw up immediately after. Like, that's how weak of a runner I was. And and what year was this?
SPEAKER_00What year was this just to put it in context for people?
SPEAKER_01Uh I think we we met around I want to say 2016 timeframe.
SPEAKER_00I believe so.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it it was I want to say 2015, 2016, and then you know, we started really hanging out around 2017-2018, and that's when we, you know, started doing the filming together, getting to know each other, and then we decided to create the podcast together, you know, just talking about the random things, you know, that were on our minds, different topics, and you know, just really growing close than that until I eventually uh you know went to shore duty here in Texas. So, you know, you were still there in San Diego, just about to get out, and I had re-enlisted for an additional four years. So even you know, over here, the running
Divorce Faith And The Marathon Vow
SPEAKER_01was even worse. I was completely out of shape. I weighed the heaviest I've ever been, which was around 220 pounds. And I just I was really just disgusted with myself, and you know, I'd fluctuate with my weight and I'd get into the gym and like be manageable, but I was never into fitness. Like I never dreamed of being where I am with my running journey, and um back in 2024, I went through a very messy divorce. And um after I had gotten served divorce papers, something kind of happened that I never thought would happen. I found religion again. And you know, I'm not trying to be preacher or anything like that, but this is just you know what I went through. And you know, so I started getting into that, and all these different signs kept coming up. Like I watched this YouTuber, I follow, and he was doing this thing for his 26th birthday of doing a marathon, and it just kind of clicked in my head. I was like, could I possibly do something like that? And I was like, there's no way, like that's impossible for me. Like, it's completely impossible. And then, you know, a few weeks later I go to church, and it was around the time of the Olympics was happening, and one of the things was talking about running your own race and running it with God, and I was just like, wow, like another reference, like that's kind of crazy. Like, I've been thinking about this, I've been really pondering it, and then now they're kind of talking about it in the sermon. So I really prayed and I really thought about it, and I was like, you know what? Like, if I really am gonna believe in what I thought was impossible, I gotta do it. So I decided, you know what? Like I'm gonna try it. What I'm gonna do is make a promise that I'm going to run a marathon. And so one of the things with that promise was I wasn't allowed to cut my hair, so I actually grew my hair out for about a year and a half and was just training. But then, you know, again, I was going through a divorce at the time, so a lot of things kind of got in the way of my training, and I stopped and I was so ready to give up. But then fast forward January 2025, I was like, you know what? I made this promise. I'm not gonna give up. It's been hard, it's been difficult. I'm on the other side of all the stuff that's been going on. And so I just decided, hey, you know what? Rather than running the race I originally was gonna do, at the end of 2025, I'll be doing what was the very first inaugural Corpus Christi marathon. So again, you know, just training and just you know getting stronger. And each time, you know, I couldn't even run a mile when I first started, and my time was terrible. But the more I just went at it, the more I focused on what I was doing and the goals and all the things that were going on in my life, and this was just helping me focus on something completely different. You know, my mind was taken off of the world I was in. I was just so focused on this thing right here and right now, and you know, it just became therapy after a bit.
SPEAKER_00You know, man, there's so much, uh, and and I just want to interrupt a little bit because there's so much from um so there was a religious um experience, uh you would say and also a uh traumatic event. Yeah, a divorce is just traumatic, it doesn't matter if it's um if it's uh like I don't know, um what is it like amicable or whatever, it's still just like it's separation. And then there was a commitment to this um this goal that was inspired by um one of your uh social media influencer you said?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. His name is uh Sam Golbach. Um okay.
SPEAKER_00TikToker, youtuber.
SPEAKER_01He's mostly YouTube. He does a channel uh called Sam and Colby with one of his best friends, actually. Uh they mainly do like ghost hunting and stuff, but on his own channel, like he just does different things. And he had released this um video where he did a marathon, and what he did is he had a bunch of his friends each mile he did, they switch off.
SPEAKER_00Oh, they did a leg. They did a leg of it.
SPEAKER_01It was a different person that ran with him.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And see when you just when you do your hundred mile race or your craziness, you know, because I know you're gonna be a leg. I'm gonna be uh I'm gonna be a leg of that, okay? I can't, bro. You'll do the half with me. Yeah, I got you. I got I could probably do a marathon with you. How about that? Like I feel like I can be that crazy with you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you know, it was just all these things that were like pointing to, hey, you know, like do this, like prove that you could do impossible things with just this belief in your heart. And you know, that's what was really driving me because all these things, like I said, were happening in my life, but at the same time, a lot of good came from it. You know, my relationship with my kids got a lot stronger. I started loving myself again, you know.
SPEAKER_00I love that KC and you run together and do 5K's. Like I see that I'm starting to get into it too.
SPEAKER_01I had Kaylee do a 1K with uh by herself, actually.
SPEAKER_00Dude, when I see those pictures on Instagram, if I can like super like them or like them more than just a double tap, it would like I would do that for I love when I see that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it's good because it was something that me and the girls could do together, and they can see like the example, like you know, dad is 33 years old, he's gone through all this stuff, and look at him, he's smiling while running. It's painful, it's hard, tears are coming down, and you know, whenever I finally got to that moment of running that first marathon, like it didn't go how I planned, you know. I everything that I had planned kind of went out the window, and it was just me against myself, and I was just pushing through my pain, you know, and my knees, my feet, I was bleeding, you know, I was severely dehydrated, cramping. But once I passed that finish line, my kids were there, and so was my sister. And I just went up to them and hugged them, and I just, man, I've never cried so much, like just tears of happiness and like this joy, and like they just held me, and like everything that I have gone through has led to that moment of just you know what? Like, I always compare things to a run, like anything in life you can compare it to a run, it's hard at first. You're gonna stumble, you're gonna set yourself back, things are gonna happen.
Finishing The Marathon Through Pain
SPEAKER_01But if you just keep pushing and just keep going, you're gonna hit that finish line, and then you'll be able to raise your hands in victory and say, you know what? All that crap that should have killed me, here I am. And I heard this quote uh from a running influencer, and it really struck a chord to where like I just kind of broke down, and you know, you know, a little bit by my past, and I'm gonna kind of be vulnerable here, but you know, there was a time in life where I was, you know, very mensely depressed. I, you know, was a little suicidal, you know, like I really had this negative thought of myself that you know, and I just hated myself so much. And so I heard this quote that the same brain that wanted you to kill yourself is the same one that just made you do the impossible and run this marathon.
SPEAKER_00Dude, that's it.
SPEAKER_01And like that struck a chord, it was like, man, like I just did something I never thought I could possibly do. And it's the same brain that used to tell me that I hate myself. Now it's saying, look what you just accomplished when you just pushed and you just kept going.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think it's beautiful, right? Like it's truly, you know how if you can synthesize it down a little more, Justin. And um if you can just really be like, what's the most uh simplest way to put what you just said and and make everyone understand it is that it gets better. Right? Just that that's it, it gets better.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and that's the best thing. You cry the hard part's done. You've you've everything that should have hurt you and should have made you quit, and your body's telling you to stop, and eventually your body will make you stop, but you just keep going. It's like that feeling at the end when you can just finally breathe and just raise your hands to say, man, like I could have easily stopped at mile 10, at mile 15, at mile 20, but I can't.
SPEAKER_00Alright, and now you're getting carried away. I haven't, I haven't, I haven't gone past 13.1 brothers.
SPEAKER_01And that's the thing, like, you know, now I look back and it's like, man, like I still like I'll look at the metal sometimes, and it's like that's now a distant memory. Like, I've already done I didn't need to run this marathon um recently, but it's like, you know what? Like, what can I do next? Hey, and that's where I started you know doing more goals. Like, hey, you got my goal eventually is doing a triathlon.
SPEAKER_00You gotta put your body through it. That that's just kind of what I'm realizing.
Subscribe Plug And Reset Breath
SPEAKER_00But uh hey, before we get a little deeper into this conversation, hey everyone, thanks for making it into the uh podcast and supporting us thus far. My name is Luther, your host. This is your daily dose. And if You can kind of you know vibe with conversations like this. Give us a like, subscribe, share it with someone, tell a friend that you got a friend or you know a cool guy in San Diego, California that hosts a podcast. Also, uh, a big part of this is um advertisement for like my yoga practice or just whatever I'm or just my practice and fitness. I have a um a desire and a passion to help people move, to help people make um not the right choice, but a choice that is uh gonna be non-harming to them or others. And if you get down with that, um follow me at train with sand on Instagram and shoot me a message and we'll uh schedule a yoga sesh at a park in San Diego, California, Monday and Wednesdays at 1800, which is 6 p.m. Sorry about that, Justin, just need to get that out there.
SPEAKER_01No, completely fine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but hey, let's um let's take a like a reset breath together, right? And a reset breath is just when I say inhale, slowly inhale through your nose, starting now. And at the very top, just class your lips and hold for a little bit. Understanding that you control you. And then with the cue of saying exhale through your mouth, allowing the chest to fall naturally and you to settle in the natural curvature of your spine. Because hey, we're just talking about what what peop some people consider some deep thoughts, you know, the word uh suicide is there, divorce, uh mental health, depression. It's all there, and I think a lot of people can relate to this um this experience or whatever you're going through right now. Cause man, life is life, right? The older I get, I find it so funny, and I I I say it in a joking way, but like we're all fucked up. Like we're we either all have something going on where um you know, there's a time where I bet you in your youth, probably in your twenties, you were going through some shit and you would not openly talk about it to anyone, not even a friend. And I I've been that person as well. And uh I just think that's a sign of uh youth, and there's nothing wrong with that. Uh because eventually you grow and uh understand that like you know, opening up is just just relieving, honestly, in the most simplest way to say it. But um, hey, for someone that's like kinda can relate and like man, there's other things, it's like losing a job that you've been dedicated to a breakup or um you know, a situation or just like you know, being disappointed in something that you were looking forward to.
How To Start Running Without Comparison
SPEAKER_00And I y would you recommend since running really help you um kind of I I'm not saying because I hate when people like look at running and be like, is it going to like fix this? Like that's not life, but it's gonna add some experiences to your life that will make you smile. Like, and it's gonna suck. But would you suggest since you've been um dude, you're you ran two marathons now, two official half marathons, and then how many official unhalf, I mean half marathons just in your training for your marathons. So would you suggest someone get into the running? And would you would you tell them to go for that marathon goal out the gate or go for like a 3k, 5k, 10k?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I actually have this friend that I um went to high school with, and she actually, you know, has been seeing you know my posts about my running, and it actually kind of inspired her. Oh, I forgot. You're gonna go back to the city. And her goal was just doing a 5k. And you know, I told her, you know, I was like, hey, you know, that's such a good goal, you know, just just even going out, even if you're walking it, like, you know, just being a part of that community and like people, you know, applauding you and you know pushing you, you meet such amazing people. And that was the thing, you know, again, you know, going back to my marathon. I ran with this lady that had done seven marathons in her past, and she stayed with me pretty much the whole time and like kept pushing me forward and just kept resetting my mind of like, look, like, remember why you're here. She gave me all these tips that I use today, and it's like and I hugged her at the end. I was like, you know, I couldn't have done this without you. And so I would say to anyone that's able to, you know, get out there. You don't have to run a marathon, you don't have to do it within a certain time, you don't even have to run the whole thing on one thing. It's like just get out there and just be a part of something that you never thought you could do. You know, it takes one step, and then from there, you're just gonna get stronger whenever you do it. The more you do it, the more you expose yourself to that. I promise you, it's gonna be this thing that it's just gonna change you, and it could only change you for the better.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, dude, honestly, like, especially if you're um running your own pace. I find when people are like, Oh, my um, I've injured myself and and everything, there's a uh comparison demon in that. Oh, yeah. Like, uh, hey, I have this program where I need to be running these amount of miles of this speed. I'm like, hey the time on feet matters when you're running. How long can you be out there? That's really it. And then how like just how tough are you? Because sometimes it's not even about how good your cardio is, it's like how tough are you? And I find it so fascinating that um, you know, helping people in fitness and so the number one reason why people do uh yoga, right? Because I'm just so into yoga. I I I I learned this recently, it's not like muscle development, strength development, it's not a tone, body, fat loss. You know what it is? Can you just just give me like one guess?
SPEAKER_01Uh I'm assuming it's just something for mental because it's just giving you that time to pause a little bit and focus.
SPEAKER_00See, I I love that answer. Yeah, it's um like in it's stress release, that's how it's how it's like categorized in the stats, but that what you just said right there, it gives you time to just like be okay with the noise around you, figure out how to focus on one thing and then let it just settle. And I feel the same thing with long runs, like sprinting, god hell, dude. Like, you know, hills, oh my god, what are we doing out here? Like what but dude, when if you go on that nice long run and you run your race, and what I mean by that is when you feel like walking, guess what? Take a walk. It's okay. Give me like 90 seconds, two minutes just to recover, and guess what? Interval run, give me two minutes or give me a mile, run a mile, then walk three minutes, run a mile, then walk three minutes, stuff like that. I love that type of um just knowing that that you can just run your pace and when you really understand that, and it turns into like what I'm talking about, like this active meditation. And oh, where I was going, I'm so sorry, I got a little lost there. Um, I find it fascinating that you know you're you went through a pretty um traumatic event of of a divorce, you said, and it kind of led you into um, you know, the word of God, right? And then you um saw your influencer running a marathon, you're like, Well, can I do that? And then you went to church and there was like boom, there was something about running your own race. It's like that symmetry that was popping up in a consistent manner that you notice, and you're like, I'm going to take action. Yeah. But you're going through something rough, Justin, and you're going to go do something even like not even rougher, but like also rough and tough to make you feel better. And I wish people would understand that. Like you are the the things that make you feel better are also the things that make you like because you're already coming from a rough point, and you gotta go put your body through this training cycle, these miles and run, but it just fortifies you. And I find it fascinating that um people don't notice that, but they uh they always pick like a tough thing to do. Like during a breakup when someone just like wants to lose a bunch of weight. That's a rough thing to do, but they're motivated by it, right? Yeah, for sure. That's fascinating. Fascinating. I love the milestone, man. I love the active meditation
Next Races And Closing Reflections
SPEAKER_00of it. I really uh really enjoyed that uh you were like, hey, sign up for this race, and you kind of spot checked me. It was so tough, but it was so fun and rewarding. Yeah, and now I'm doing a race a month. I got a uh nine-mile race in Big Bear this Sunday.
SPEAKER_01Oh, let's go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's so bad, Justin. I thought it was going to be a 10K. One second. Yeah, I thought it was gonna be a 10K, and then it was nine miles. I'm like, oh. So I I my goal here is under two hours, but um I haven't ran an elevation. Uh for oh, for people that don't know, like big bears, I don't know the elevation difference, but it's it's in the mountains, like big bear mountains. So um God, it's gonna roast me. I just want to get my I want to finish and get my medal, man. So that's kind of that's my race for June. What you got a race for June?
SPEAKER_01Uh I don't think I have anything this month, but next month I'm gonna have another half marathon. Um, so that's gonna be fun. Uh but yeah, you know, it's so funny because you know, again, whenever I started, I couldn't even run half a mile, and now I just look back and it's like, man, like those baby steps and like that stuff I went through, it strengthened me. And you know, for anyone that's listening and has thought about it, it's like, you know, go out there and like I said, run your race. You know, whenever me and you did the half, you did it at a different pace than I did, and we just ran our own thing. I, you know, it's hard not to compare yourself to other people, but when you just have that mindset of just focusing on yourself and not comparing yourself to others, it just opens all these doors for you and it just leads into everything in your life. Like, you know what? Like, it's hard right now, but it's not gonna be hard later.
SPEAKER_00Boom. I love it, and I think we're going to wrap this episode up of your daily dose brought to you by KPTZ. Again, this was Justin coming to you from Texas. I was gonna say your say your hometown, but I was like, I'll just let him tell you if he wants to tell you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, from Corpus Christi, Texas.
SPEAKER_00Boom. Hey, this guy's really cool, has a very interesting individual. You're gonna hear a lot of him if he wants to come back. And Justin, all you gotta do is be like, text me podcasts, and we'll set it up and we'll do this. But uh hey man, I want to thank you so much for kind of sharing that uh that story. Um, you know, that's that's very that's some vulnerable stuff. Some people will probably listen to it and be like, oh whatever, that's whatever. Because you know, people have different experiences, they have different um what is it, calluses in life, you know. But I think you really peel back some layers, especially uh on a podcast, you know. And uh I've always enjoyed having some conversations with you, man. And I'm kinda glad that we kind of just um we were on the phone catching up. I asked you to uh if you wanted to do it, and you're like, of course, you're like, hell yeah, man. So appreciate you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, anytime, and I really appreciate you for letting me share with, you know, whoever's gonna listen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you'll hear Justin a lot here on your daily dose coming to you live from now, we're not live, but for San Diego, California. This is Luther. I don't know why I say California like that. It's weird. And I I feel like that's like uh you know one of those things where you have a just a mic in your hand, you you uh say like you know when people say like important.
SPEAKER_01Oh the enunciation, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what I'm saying. Um San Diego Cali, hey, we'll talk to you on episode three. See ya