The Affiliate Marketing Podcast
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The Affiliate Marketing Podcast
From Small Affiliate to Big Audience: Why Ignorance is not Affiliate Bliss!
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What happens when your affiliate publisher is a sleep-deprived new mum with 45,000 verified users, a Dragon's Den deal, and strong opinions about how brands treat people? You listen.
Olivia Davson is the co-founder of Cubbi, the UK's first discount platform built specifically for verified new and expecting parents. She launched it eight weeks after having her first child, built the first version of the app with her sister who had zero coding experience, onboarded over 30 brands before launch, and pitched her business live on BBC's Dragon's Den at nine months pregnant. She walked out with a 50,000 pound investment.
In this episode, Lee-Ann talks with Olivia about what it actually feels like to enter the affiliate industry as a new publisher, why most affiliate managers missed the opportunity she represented early on, and what brands who did show up early gained because of it. The conversation covers the mechanics of Cubbi's verification model, why the parent demographic is unlike any other in consumer marketing, and what the affiliate channel still gets wrong about the publisher relationship.
Talking Points Include:
- What Cubbi actually is and why the parent lifecycle is a marketer's playbook in a way that student discount platforms are not
- The outreach reality nobody talks about: Olivia contacted a thousand brands before launch. Around thirty said yes. What those thirty did differently that made them irreplaceable partners
- How Dragon's Den changed everything overnight, from word-of-mouth pockets across the UK to a nationwide spike in downloads and credibility that no paid campaign could have bought
- Why Olivia screens every inbound brand enquiry personally and the red lines that will get a brand turned away regardless of budget
Listen to Find Out More About:
- The exact moment Olivia decided Cubbi needed to exist, standing at a coffee shop counter on maternity pay and doing the mental arithmetic
- What brands Olivia singles out as genuinely getting the parent audience right, and what they are doing that others are not
- How Matthew from Cashblack supported Olivia at the moment she was closest to walking away, and why that kind of peer support matters more than people admit
- The expansion plan for Cubbi, what comes after nailing the UK, and which markets are already asking when they are next
- Why not everyone needs to understand what you are building, and how that mindset shift changes how you show up as a founder
- What the Dragon's Den investment from Susie Ma has meant practically for the business beyond the headline number
Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:
[07:25] The scrappy startup reality: a thousand outreach messages, thirty brand partners, and what the ones who said yes understood that the others missed
[13:00] How Cubbi verifies users, why the verification model matters to brands, and the difference between targeted reach and spray-and-pray traffic
[15:37] Dragon's Den: why Olivia went on the show at nine months pregnant, what happened when the episode aired, and what a nationwide audience spike looks like on a growth map
[19:00] What the industry gets wrong about new publishers and why the affiliate channel is more transactional than it needs to be
Call to Action
A big thank you to Olivia for sharing her story so openly. If this episode has made you think differently about how your program handles early-stage publishers, that instinct is worth acting on.
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