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From Junior to Juggernaut: The Evolution of Buffalo Trace's Stagg Bourbon
The Scotchy Bourbon Boys taste and compare Stagg Jr. and Stagg bourbons, tracing the evolution from the "Junior" designation to simply "Stagg" and examining whether quality changed with the name.
• Stagg described as "the perfect man's bourbon" - barrel-proof with power but exceptionally balanced
• Multiple batches of Stagg released in 2024 (A through D) showing increased availability
• Comparing Stagg Jr. batch 12 (130.9 proof) with newer Stagg batches reveals consistent quality
• Buffalo Trace maintains the signature brown sugar and cherry flavor profile across all batches
• Bourbon availability generally improving with Buffalo Trace products appearing more frequently
• Many bourbon enthusiasts prefer standard Stagg over George T. Stagg despite the price difference
• Stagg represents exceptional value at $59.99 MSRP compared to its secondary market price
• The importance of bourbon community and sharing special bottles creates meaningful connections
• Kentucky Bourbon Festival plans discussed with potential distillery tour options
• Different batches maintain subtle variations while keeping core flavor characteristics
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Stagg bourbon has earned its reputation as what the Scotchy Bourbon Boys call "the perfect man's bourbon" - a barrel-proof powerhouse that delivers without compromise. This episode brings Super Nash back to explore what makes Stagg special and how it's evolved since dropping the "Junior" designation in 2021.
The boys taste multiple batches side-by-side, comparing the last Stagg Jr. (Batch 12 at 130.9 proof) with recent 2024 releases. What emerges is a fascinating portrait of consistency - the signature brown sugar and cherry notes remain intact across batches, proving Buffalo Trace's commitment to maintaining quality while increasing availability. The team discusses how Stagg has become more accessible in Ohio and beyond, with multiple 2024 batches (A through D) hitting shelves this year.
Perhaps most intriguing is the comparison between standard Stagg and George T. Stagg from the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection. Many bourbon enthusiasts actually prefer the regular Stagg despite the significant price difference, describing it as "the working man's bourbon" versus "the rich man's special bottle." At $59.99 MSRP, Stagg represents extraordinary value compared to secondary market prices of $200-400.
Beyond the tasting, the episode captures the camaraderie that makes bourbon special - sharing bottles, standing in line at releases, and planning adventures like the upcoming Kentucky Bourbon Festival tour. As bourbon availability increases across Buffalo Trace products, the community benefits from greater access to exceptional whiskeys like Stagg.
Have you tried different Stagg batches? Which release is your favorite? Share your thoughts and join us for more bourbon exploration!
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Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, welcome back to another podcast of the Scotchy Bourbon Boys. Tonight we've got Super Nash Woo. Yeah, we've got super nash whoo. Yeah, we've got ct, everybody and myself, tiny uh, um, kind of like pumped up. Uh, for this podcast.
Speaker 1:I think it's kind of like that this, this time of year leading up to this, it's finally spring, you and we're all getting ready, although I think the state of Ohio did a really good job of releasing some good stuff and out there and you're able to get some stuff they had, you know, a couple kind of things that kept us, got us through, but it's still a lot different, you know, as far as you know, getting through the winter and we're finally getting to some weather that might be a little bit warmer. It's still a lot different, you know, as far as you know, getting through the winter and we're finally getting to some weather that might be a little bit warmer. And I just feel like I got a little bit more energy than what I normally have and kind of excited about like, this podcast and a couple of the podcasts. Well, you know, I wasn't feeling good. Plus, I've been traveling 13 states in the the month of uh in the in the last month. So between florida, I've been to tennessee, you know, lynchburg, tennessee, jack daniels, we've been to maker's mark for the, the podcast, and then we've been to I was to Whiskey Thief and then also I just went to New York. So I was in for my aunt's 100th birthday. I think that's the first time I was around somebody legitimately talking to them that was 100 years old. I know Randy, so I know Randy.
Speaker 1:Did you see Randy Prass had his hat made in New Orleans at that hat place and the owner was 101 years old and he just happened to be in on a Friday. Did you see that CT? I did. That was so cool. Yeah, that was. And so he's going to be driving his Lincoln that he had his dad's Lincoln that he had restored in Wisconsin and he got one of those hats that looks like he's going to go to the. Either he's a sports reporter or he's going to the horse races or the dog, you know, or betting on sports or whatever. He's got that little hat that he's going to drive when he drives the lincoln to kentucky. So that was kind of cool and he's planning on using it for the kentucky derby and it's just like. But the owner was 101 years old, I mean, and he was standing next to randy and looked coherent. He looked looked like maybe a 75, like maybe an 80-year-old person, you know he didn't have that kind of like. He was, you know, on his last leg he was there. So that was kind of cool, all right.
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Speaker 3:I am.
Speaker 1:I think this is, in my opinion, the perfect man's bourbon, like it's just perfect. It's barrel-proof and it's got some power to it. It's barrel-proof and it's got some power to it.
Speaker 1:They were saying between I thought was it seven to nine years, is where it's at. Yeah, and honestly, when you're just starting out, I would say that this particular bourbon is like something this is somewhat obtainable. It's not like it's a parent. George T Stagg, you know it's not. That's a once a year release and it's very limited. This is a twice a year release or even sometimes more right.
Speaker 3:Actually, sometimes up to four times, because, as CT just told us earlier, he's got the D right this is D, but I've got some C batches. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I've got.
Speaker 3:B and C. I've had an A but it's been depleted. But yeah, I don't think I've ever had a D batch before.
Speaker 1:Well, I agree what I've got—.
Speaker 4:This year it's been easier to—I shouldn't say easier, but there has been more of it going around, I feel like yeah, I've seen it in a lot more places this year than I ever have before.
Speaker 1:Well, I say so too because and the same thing with most Buffalo Trace products here in Ohio it seems like instead of six, when you're waiting in line, there's 12. And in some cases there's even more than that. You know, there's more case maybe three or four cases on the release now, so it's becoming more available, which is a very good thing for all of us. When it, when you're looking at msrp, um, this is about, I believe, um, if I'm not mistaken, it's it's in the 59.99, isn't it, or was it? Yeah, it was 60, about 60 dollars, right? Yeah, it's in the $59.99, isn't it, or was it? Yeah, it was $60.
Speaker 4:About $60, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's $59 to $79. Depends on where you get it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean decent price. You look online right now.
Speaker 3:It's a great price.
Speaker 1:It's $200 to $400 online. If you're looking to pull it off a line, you can get it, but they're asking two to four hundred and about three quarters of the places that are asking that they're sold out, you know they don't always have it, but, um, this is a very uh, what would you say readily? Oh, breaking up on the youtube. All right, man's burp. I don't know why I'm breaking up on the youtube tonight, but sound. Let's see if it's just this causing a problem. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I'll try that.
Speaker 1:Really kind of like I said, my first bottle I ever had, super Nash gave it to me for Christmas. Um, super nash gave me it to me for christmas and I mean I drank it. I saved that bottle and took it to a packer game and only drank it after a packer victory. So now I take my bottle of stag and I'll, if we're gonna win, I I'll share it. I believe I took took my other bottle of stag that I had gotten, which I believe was a C from 2023. And I was up there and they won and I was drinking it with the guy up there and he never saw Buffalo trace products and he had a nice bourbon collection. So I left about half the bottle with them, you know, because I have bottles of stag and you might, you know, you share it, you know.
Speaker 3:I remember that game and remember your post when you did that and that was so cool.
Speaker 1:And do you remember my post Christmas morning?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember that one too, but that was so cool that you know, and that's what whiskey and bourbon, and the whole community, since I began to actually learn it and know it and know the people in it is sharing the whiskey and the stories behind it. You know, and I don't know what am I trying to say here? Ct, the camaraderie.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, the fellowships.
Speaker 3:That you get with it. That's what it's all about. That's what it became.
Speaker 4:I think we've all seen. We travel a lot and there's so many different things out there to try. I mean you, you come to ohio, some people haven't tried.
Speaker 4:You know a brand like middle west and you like to be able to have them try it, to see it, and you go to tennessee and I'm sure, there's some things down there that, uh, we don't get up here, that you want to try, so it's just the whole bourbon whiskey community, but this year it's definitely been something that you've seen a lot on social media. There's been a lot about it because I think that 24d batch whether there was just more of it, I don't know, but it's definitely been more available than some of them in the past uh, in ohio and kentucky, yeah, I, I completely agree.
Speaker 1:You can start to sense the noose lightening up. You know what I mean the that, that restriction of not having enough bottles and the frustration. It's one thing to go, you know, and wait, in line with everybody and honestly and adam roberts like, says stags his personal- favorite and um but it's one thing to go in line with everybody, but it's nice when you go in line and everybody gets some.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Let's say there's 24 people that were whatever, or 30, whatever, and if everybody gets some, I mean that's, that's where every you got the comp, you, you. You basically feel it's it's. It sucks when you wait in line and only three people get get something that you want, or six people. So now you feel like everybody's able to get something. That's decent.
Speaker 1:Like I said that last thing, that last ohio drop, I got in line at five to six because I had a chiropractor that I had to go to and I got out at 5, 30 drove over and I was in line at five to six and I walked out with an Elmer T Lee. So the fact that there was so much Weller and I could have went back in line and got a Weller 12th know, it's like there was so much of everything that everybody can get what they want. And when everybody's getting what they want, I mean that makes this even so much more fun. You know, it's still not going on the shelf itself where you just walk in and get it. You still got to wait in line, but at least when you wait in line you get it right.
Speaker 3:And I totally agree with that. It's like the one time that I went to a bourbon raffle at a store this year. It's like there was a line of like 60 or 70 people and we all went through the line and you know, after they did the drawing, you know, and everybody got what they wanted after they drew their number and then some of them left and all that. But then all of a sudden they said, well, we'll draw again. So they did a second drawing, then they did a third drawing. Then, after the third drawing, there were still a lot of bottles left. Then after the third round, there were still a lot of bottles left.
Speaker 3:And the people that were left, they were like, well, just get in line, come back in and get what you want. And it was like we just grabbed two or three bottles of what we wanted and there were still bottles left. Well, and I found that to be the same with a lot of, a lot of the lotteries, you know, the store lotteries, which that happens in the uncontrolled states. It doesn't happen so much, I guess, in the controlled states, like where you guys live, but in the uncontrolled states when they do the lotteries like that, it's happened a lot this past year and I saw it and it was just amazing these past, this past year, and I saw it.
Speaker 1:It was just amazing. Now my question is it are they changing the way that they're making it? Are they they putting it out younger? You, you know that's the question, because I do know that, um, I was talking to um matt mayhair and he was talking in line and he was talking about some of the stuff and how they're putting out more, but they're also putting it out younger. Now I don't know, that's the first time I ever heard that, but he usually has a pretty good inside aspect to that, and so go ahead, I do know that when the juniors were out, when that was a thing more you know a few years ago, it seemed like they only talked about eight nine year.
Speaker 4:Now they've extended it to seven through nine, so maybe there is some truth to that.
Speaker 3:There is some truth to that and I actually read a little bit of history. A little bit of history. When they dropped the junior, they actually, in the first year, they actually entered the batch into the five-year category in one of the competitions which suggested that they had some five-year-olds added into the batch. And then I also found out further reading that they the batches when they dropped the junior and just became stag the first couple of years that it dropped down to ages six to eight years. All right so, but now, since then, the batches have came up and the batches have received or actually risen back up to the eight to nine year old bourbon Well. So, yeah, those first couple of years when they dropped the junior, it did drop down a little bit.
Speaker 1:Well, and then I think this is only the third year they've done it right. I mean, this year, I think I think the junior was there, and then you got this 23 and 24, yeah, yep, yeah. Now it's 25 for three. Yeah, so, but what I'll say is um, that's just like with knob creek. At one point they had to lose the age statement because they had to add some seven and eight year instead of the nine year. And then, but they had been made.
Speaker 1:You know they're as they had made more. You know they're gearing these up and they've been making more at the distilleries. They're able to meet the demand back with the the right amount. You know that that seven year, two years later, is now a nine year, right, so that's what we're looking at there. So that's pretty cool. Now, um, whiskey thief distilling. I think that might be walter. I'm not sure who's asking, but there he asked if we could pick them up a couple bottles. And yeah, walter, when they release it, I, if you're looking for that, or whoever's at whiskey thief distilling, I can uh try and get one for you because that's one of the ones yeah absolutely I.
Speaker 1:I have had enough stag in in my life and it is just like between drinking bookers and stag when you know there's only so much barrel proof whiskeys that you know it's that you can drink. You like to drink the other lower proof sometime, just to give your liver a rest and absolutely.
Speaker 3:uh, that's another thing too. Everybody knows that's one thing that I love to do. I always love to help procure bottles for people that can't get them. I mean, I'm traveling so much and go to so many places and there's a lot of times that I'll pass up bottles that I see out there to, you know, to allow other people to get them, because I've got them and I've got so many other backups and things like that. But if I know somebody's looking for them, I'm glad to be able to pick up a bottle for them.
Speaker 1:Well, this is unique what I got going tonight, because I have the last batch of Stagg Jr here and it is at 130.9 proof, and I've now thanks to you, super nash, on my birthday, which I just opened I've got the first batch of stag. So these are the back-to-back batches and let's. I wanted to compare the two to see if, when they dropped it did, they maintain the quality and we talked about it Just because it's a little bit younger.
Speaker 4:Hey, Jeff, did you say that one? You guessed 130.2 proof.
Speaker 1:No, this one's 130.9 and this one is 131. Okay, 130.9 and 130.9, and this one is 131. Okay, 130.9 and 131. So there are.
Speaker 3:I've got the 24B, which is 127.8. And I've got the 24C, which is 125.9. And a little bit to touch on what you were talking about, I've read a couple different reviews on the batches coming out in 23 when they dropped the junior, and a couple of the reviews that I had read. They were saying you know and I don't want to mention their names or anything, but some of the reviews that I read were saying that it was lacking a little bit in 23, was lacking a little bit from what the Stagg Jr was as far as the, the tasting and the aromas that you were getting. And uh, I'm kind of wondering if they were, it's because they were trying to put out more and and putting a little bit younger bourbon in there, if that might be the cause.
Speaker 1:All I could say is that when you're dealing at 130 proof it's hard. I think you could produce a batch and if you had to taste it blind it would be tough, even with some younger bourbon in there. Just my opinion. Response to no drinking lower proof, I I will say because whiskey thief distilling is our sponsor and they only do uncut, unfiltered, straight from the barrel. I will say that the reason why I drink less stag is because I drink a lot more whiskey thief.
Speaker 3:There you go there you go there you go, so there we go.
Speaker 1:What was Walker saying? What place are you talking about there? Ct.
Speaker 4:I said Walter. Walter said that Kentucky is the toughest place to find bourbon and I said I know a place.
Speaker 1:It's the toughest place to find. It is hard to find bourbon on. I said I know a place. It's the toughest place to find. It is hard to find bourbon on the shelf yeah, but well, but you gotta go to the distilleries and you can get a lot of bourbon if you go to drink and taste it.
Speaker 3:There are a couple of nice places to go in Kentucky and close to Walter too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's some great liquor stores that you can do tastings at things that we don't have quite the opportunity here.
Speaker 3:So also to a couple of restaurants that usually procure a lot of different bottles and usually have several different uh bottles of you know of years on on the shelf that you can go and taste, so which uh always found and love to go to.
Speaker 1:So gage spence asked the general question on youtube is stag worth a damn or not?
Speaker 4:Yes, it's definitely worth a damn. It's good and I'll make this point real quick about it because Randy said this in an earlier message on the Facebook chat For $59.99 in the state of Ohio it is cheaper than Blanton's. It is probably one of the best value bottles for what it is, um, in the state of Ohio. Now, if you're paying secondary and you're paying 150 to 200 dollars, you know that's up to you. But uh, I do think that they are very good bottles. The juice is good. I just drank my first drink of 24d just now and it's delicious. So I I'm, I'm stoked. I can't wait to get into that bottle more.
Speaker 3:Well, you can do it tonight out there. So I'm telling you what this is a absolute cherry bomb.
Speaker 4:Okay, it is so the nellers and the cherries come out, but you also get that nice barrel char and you get a nice open flavor to it, but it's not overpowering.
Speaker 3:It's not like it's been in the barrel too long. That's what's unusual. These high proofs. Like you said, it's not overpowering.
Speaker 1:Right, and these two are at 130. So 130.9 and 131. I mean, they're .1 off and I'm telling you I could tell by the nose, but they are really close. So I'll give a little history of the Stagg
Speaker 1:brand. From Breaking Bourbon, stagg Jr was first announced in 2013 and, with its junior designation, it was expected to be a more widely available version of its counterpart, released annually as part of the buffalo trace antique collection george t stag. Initially, some commented that it seemed closer to a barrel proofproof version of Buffalo Trace bourbon than the original George T Stagg. Yet it quickly gained the attention of enthusiasts as it capitalized on the growing popularity of the Stagg name and barrel-proof bourbons in general. In 2021, buffalo Trace announced that Batch 18 would be the first batch to lose Junior from its name and simply be called stag. Stag is released twice a year in waves that can be spread out for a few months, with a release date that corresponds to a season rather than a month. The bourbon age is believed to hover between seven to nine years old. We awarded stag junior batch 12 the best whiskey of 2019. Now this is the um.
Speaker 1:This is 12 right here okay, but this is the the summer 2024 release um review. So they were saying only two batches, but you're doing a, b, c and d in some cases. So is it just a and b? Is just a, b on one batch and then c, d on another batch, or is it four separate batches?
Speaker 3:you can well there's a proof change on all of them. 22, there were two batches, a and b. In 23, there were three batches. 24, four batches 24, four batches and in 25, we don't know yet but we're thinking it might be five batches.
Speaker 1:That's what someone said. I saw that it could be 12. Why would there be 12 batches?
Speaker 3:I'm with Tiny. If they're going by the years and you know maybe sort of if that's what their play on this, I'm hoping it is, but we haven't seen the 25. If they're going to do 5 batches, they're going to be releasing pretty quick because we hadn't seen the 25A yet. No, they're not going to do five batches, they're going to be releasing pretty quick because we haven't seen the 25A yet.
Speaker 4:No, they're not going to do it, so it's going to be pretty hard to be doing five batches.
Speaker 1:So who's got the current batch right now? Has there been a 25A yet?
Speaker 3:No, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1:So the 24D is what you got right there ct and that's the last.
Speaker 3:That's the last batch that's released.
Speaker 4:That was the current one yeah, like it and I just got this bottle. So I would think that if you went out and you found one luckily that was a drop that's the bottle you're getting.
Speaker 3:yeah, and I was. I was reading from somebody else. There was so much confusion and all and so much released within the last couple of months of of 24 that there was a lot of people. I mean there was a bunch of stuff released, oh yeah, but you know, I mean it was just like Buffalo's website.
Speaker 1:Right hasn't been updated on their batches since summer of 2021.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're way behind on that, so I was even looking for that for trying to get information for tonight. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But you know, know, like I said, I was going to a few groups and other other reviewers, uh, looking for information and uh, one of one of the reviewers was saying that you know they were was just so much released that you know they they actually had reviewed the 24C before they got in Christmas, before they actually got hold of the 24B in January, because it was just the way things were dumped out and released at the end of the year the end of the year.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, I don't think, uh, anybody's complaining if they, like I said, if you, if you waited in line in ohio especially, and you got a batch, of whatever it was in a stag bottle and it was 59.99. You were probably pretty excited because, again, for a drinker I'm not saying fora flipper, because flippers are always looking for different things, but for a drinker, um, I don't know how you go wrong at that price point for something that's that. Uh, you know because here's another point.
Speaker 4:So benchmark, benchmark shares, the same benchmark shares, the same mash bill, mash bill number one and obviously, benchmark eight not even comparable. But this is foolproof at 125 proof. And while this is a bottle that people are like, hey, 25 to 29, it's a good bottle. The cherry and vanilla note is hardly even noticeable in that, compared to a stag. So but while people will tell you, oh yeah, if you can't find stag, go go get a Benchmark, foolproof, it's not the same.
Speaker 1:Well, but Taylor is the same as Benchmark, okay, so they're all Mashville.
Speaker 1:Mashville won. So Taylor's the next step up before Stag. So a Taylor barrel proof would be, but they don't. They seem to. That is a more, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Stag pulls out either cherry or brown sugar a lot of the times, and what happens in my and and and uh? Taylor usually pulls out a little bit more of the tobacco leathery notes, along with some sweetness of caramel. You know what I mean. So they're, even though they're the same mash bills, they're picking the different um areas. But what I will say about stag, though, when you take it up to where it's at um and these batches, I think out of everything that I drink from buffalo trace, that the stag, this, this, this brand is the one that stays consistent, the most batch to batch. That brown sugar note is almost always there.
Speaker 1:Now, sometimes you'll get a cherry one if they drop the proof a little bit, but if you're on the higher proof ones like these two, it's just like there's a little bit of cherry, there's brown sugar, there's caramel. It's just such a wonderful nose. And then I'll sniff. You go to this one and it's very, very, very similar. I mean they are this is, you know, like they aren't Batch to batch. They don't change that much. They stay on their profile, where some of the other stuff seems like no matter what you're drinking. It always seems like there's some different versions of the profile. Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 3:absolutely, I agree on that. And hey, just to let you guys know, on a little secret uh, ct, you know how you're always uh doing these experiments with the barrels and stuff.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah Well, my experiment for this year and to be released at the Kentucky Bourbon Festival to us and some people that attend the festival. I've got a bad motivator two-and-a-half-gallon barrel that I'm filling with the BitSmart Foolproof Nice. I'm going to age it. I've just been waiting for the weather here to start getting warm enough for it to start aging good, and I will be filling it within the next two weekends before I go to Mexico. Very, nice.
Speaker 4:I have a bad motivator barrel I will also be bringing. Mine is the rum barrel.
Speaker 3:Oh cool and so, like I said, so look forward to that, and also just a shout out for everybody Kentucky Bourbon Festival. It's going to be going on sale pretty soon.
Speaker 1:Pre-sales April 16th and the regular sale is April 17th. Yeah, the last podcast that.
Speaker 3:I did by myself.
Speaker 1:I covered that.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm sorry, but I have to give a shout out when I can.
Speaker 1:I'm working on getting Randy on to promote it. I gave him first shot at our thing. We're going to be having Martin Kennedy from Bua on remotely in the next month. From Ireland they're going to release up here the stout-aged Irish whiskey, the stout-finished Irish whiskey, up here to Cleveland and Akron and Canton in the next couple weeks. So once I have it he wants to come on from Ireland. I'm also working on another Jervasi podcast because the podcast that we did from Jervasi with Shea, for whatever reason, has had a huge popularity compared to all of our other podcasts. So we'll probably be doing that and I've joined their distillers club. They have a distillers club where he's walking.
Speaker 1:I had to miss the first one because I was out of town at Maker's Mark that's when we were all at Maker's Mark. But I picked up my bottle and it's really exciting because this is the first ever single-barrel release of bourbon from Gervasi and it is fantastic, guys. I mean what's really cool is look at the difference. I mean it's kind of cool, right. The bottles are very. It's kind of got a similarity, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it does anyway, I wanted to ask CT what two batches do you have?
Speaker 4:there A couple questions about oh, 24d, is this bottle? Yeah, and this is batch 12 of Stagg Jr. Have you got pours of?
Speaker 3:both of those. Oh yeah, 24d and 24B right.
Speaker 4:Well, not 24B, it's Jr. This is Jr. Okay, jr B's Junior. This is Junior.
Speaker 3:Okay, junior Batch 12. Batch 12.
Speaker 4:Okay, which was the one that Jeff read off that they picked as the best batch, whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah it was. That was the best batch of that year. What's?
Speaker 4:funny is every bottle of stag that I have has come from Kentucky. I've never got one in Ohio.
Speaker 3:Okay, oh, that's cool too.
Speaker 1:I have obtained two bottles in Ohio, but I could have gotten four to six, just because when it was available to get actually, the one time I went for barrel proof, I was hoping for Taylor barrel proof and I was fourth in line and there was only three barrel proofs I got a Stagg Jr on my own. I picked up another Stagg Jr and the last two years I had shots at two more Stagg Jrs and I passed up for other stuff and I will tell you you it was an honor to get this bottle from you and because I got this bottle bottle from you, I passed up this year's, the recent release since then, so that you know. So now that walter wanted me to pick him up one, I'm sure I'm gonna have a shot, because it always seems like Stagg Jr is being released with four different things and that's one of the defaults?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and. I'll pass him up in North Carolina, because North Carolina is an uncontrolled state too.
Speaker 1:Who's he blaming?
Speaker 4:I'm guessing me For what? Because I got all mine in Kentucky. He blames you for stealing it all right, he just got a cinnamon finish after a cherry palette hey, I gotta tell you, when I got this last one, though, I walked into, uh, my, my one of my stores in kentucky and they were like, well, you picked a good day to come in. I said, oh yeah. They said, yeah, we just got this and this and it was one of the bottles.
Speaker 4:So uh, that was, that was a good day and I didn't wait in line a minute. I walked right in and took it and bought that bottle and another couple of bottles and went yeah, I mean honestly, it's it.
Speaker 1:Anybody who's hunting, you're gonna hit a stag here or there. There's always been just a little bit more of it than other stuff. It's almost like, in my opinion, of getting a taylor small batch. And it's funny because, if you remember, I was buying taylor small batch before the bourbon boom, you know, when I was just drinking bourbon and I love Taylor Small Batch and then Baker's 7 was two of my favorites that I was able to get off the shelf. And then it was five years before I was able to get another small batch and it was Super Nash who came up here. And it was Super Nash who came up here and basically the first year that we were podcasting he came up and he showed me what to do to get the small batch and how you go about hunting, because I had no idea.
Speaker 3:I do now Absolutely, oh my gosh, you've taken it to a whole other level. I mean In which this podcast allows us a whole lot more. And me too, when you go to these lotteries and these lines and stuff like that, now it's not just standing in line for a bottle of whiskey, it's the people that I meet and talk to, to the different groups that they belong to and all. And then it's like, oh my gosh, oh you, you, you're a whiskey podcaster and all this. Yeah, you know I do this. So, oh good, you think about this and all this. And then it's like I'm passing out cards and I'm meeting people from all over the place and it's just so much fun. So this podcast has allowed me to take my whiskey hunting to a whole other level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I find, like I said, it's been something. Like I said, it's been something. Now there's other bourbons that I've, but this is the one I feel I've been the luckiest on and I just love. But I mean, when it comes to this, it's 130 proof and this it doesn't. It drinks from the standpoint of not the palate but the hug, as if it's 130 going down.
Speaker 1:This is a definite cold weather bourbon, you got to admit it warms you from the inside, no matter which batch you're drinking. So I'm going to compare this real quick. I'm going to do it, I'm going to sip and compare the last and the first where they had the junior and then they dropped it. So I'm going to give them two comparisons and let everybody know if I can tell After a palate shock the first time. And I'm telling you when you're drinking wow, do you remember CT?
Speaker 1:When we were driving up to Galena and we were doing the nose kit, you know the aroma kit, we couldn't figure out the one flavor Cherry, yeah. So now, every single time I taste that, I think of our road trip, because I still can smell that flavor, not knowing what it was until they said cherry. And now I taste it any time Now. The Last Egg Junior definitely has a cherry. It's all brown sugar front palate, then cherry as it goes to the back and this one gets like a sweet tart on the finish. I'm trying to think if it's still a cherry sweet tart. Does anybody else have that last batch of Junior?
Speaker 4:I don't have that but as I'm getting through these a little bit, comparing a Stag and a Stag Junior, what's funny is the cherry. The depth, almost a little bit of a chocolatey cherry is in that 24D and that batch 12 has a lighter brown sugar flavor. That's a little stronger for me than what the new batch does, but they're both very good, both great noses, and they're not. You know, when you smell them. These two are not like oh my gosh, they're the same, they smell the same. They definitely have a different nose.
Speaker 1:Well, these two which are back-to-back batches, which the last batch of Junior was 18, right, Am I right what? What was the last batch?
Speaker 3:of junior what 18.
Speaker 1:What 18 right 2018 yeah so then, this one is the first batch of Junior without the Junior. When was that 21? 19.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1:It's 21 and 20. It might be 21 and 22. Because I remember buying this one, which was the first one, and that's just not that long ago, and this was no go ahead. So I put it this way Okay, so I like that one, so now I'm going to hit the other one.
Speaker 3:Let me look at something here, wow.
Speaker 1:Actually the first batch of stag is better than the other one. That has way more brown sugar, a little bit of cherry, but there's no tartness on the back. It's way sweeter. Also, let's see what's the sweetness.
Speaker 4:What's up, jd? Hope you're doing good man. Ooh.
Speaker 1:Thank you, nash. This batch right here is fantastic. It kind of takes I am definitely warmed up, that's for sure but it's so rich and it's so the viscosity and what's happening. Let's see how it rolls around in the glass. I'll roll it around here. Let it go around, pull her up, look what it does. Let's see what it does for legs. Yeah, it just sticks there. And this is such a strong, you know, barrel-proof whiskey. Let me, I think, think I got them. Did I put them up? No, right here? Um, you know, and it's, I love the bottle barrel proof and unfiltered. Here's what.
Speaker 1:George t stagg was born in Kentucky on December 19, 1835. We should be celebrating that day. Stagg built the most dominant American distillery in the 19th century on the banks of the Kentucky River during a time known as the Golden Age of Bourbon. The distillery survived floods, fires, droughts and even prohibition when it made whiskey for medical purposes. Today, buffalo Trace Distillery strives to carry on the tradition of its famous forefather, uncut and unfiltered, like the Scotchy Bourbon Boys and Whiskey Thief Distilling this company, this robust bourbon whiskey ages for nearly a decade and boasts the bold character that is reminiscent of the man himself. So does it say that too Ages for nearly a decade. Both bottles say that exact same thing, so it's got to be close to some of the nine years still in it. Right, because they said nearly a decade. Yes, the first non-junior is 131 proof.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and it was batch 17. No, actually it was batch 18. Batch 17 was the last for the junior, which was 128.7 proof. What's the?
Speaker 1:130.9?.
Speaker 3:It was batch 16, summer of 21. Okay, so you were right before the last batch. So I got 16 and you got batch 16, 130.9 proof and 18.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, I'm telling you they're close, but Batch 18,.
Speaker 3:Winner of 2022, was 131 proof. That was the first batch that was officially without the the junior and I got that.
Speaker 1:I purchased that batch and you gave it to me for christmas. I walked away.
Speaker 3:I remember pulling that away from that, so I've got a list of all the batches, all the way to batch one right here in front of me right now Because I must have had. I just looked it up because I had to know myself.
Speaker 1:Well, it's good that we put that out. It's good that we put that out.
Speaker 3:It was batch 17,. The last release to have Junior included and it was winner of 2021 at 128.7.
Speaker 4:Proof has anybody got that?
Speaker 3:one. What was the proof? Yeah, the batch 17,.
Speaker 4:128.7 proof and that would have the last junior on it. No, mine's a 130.2, the other junior I have 130.2,.
Speaker 3:You have a batch 23. No, it's a batch 14.
Speaker 4:Okay, I have 12 and 14 then of junior.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's batch 14, spring of 2020.
Speaker 2:Alright, so now we get to compare it against the big boy 2020.
Speaker 4:So now we get to compare it against the big boy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm actually drinking a. Yeah, this is a 2024 130.4 proof. George T Stagg.
Speaker 4:Martin, how in the heck do you tell what year they are?
Speaker 3:You go by the batch, but I just know when I got this bottle.
Speaker 4:So this is a 135 proof, the one that you gifted me. So what is that? The?
Speaker 3:135? Let me look that up.
Speaker 5:Ooh, I want to say that, let me look that up.
Speaker 1:Ooh, so here's what the one you gave me initially Nash yeah.
Speaker 3:I remember I gave you your first bottle of that too, and that was 132.3. I'll tell you in just a second.
Speaker 1:Because that's on the mantle. I put that bottle up there.
Speaker 4:The crazy thing is, is this one when you compare it with the regular stags.
Speaker 3:What was your CT? 135. 135. Yours is a. I believe it's a 23. It's Because this list goes up to 22. And I'm thinking I'm pretty sure I'm thinking yours is a 23. Jeff, what was yours?
Speaker 1:A 132 something.
Speaker 4:That 24D note is insane. Let me look at another list. 24d has got it going on.
Speaker 1:I'm loving the 24B, so you gave me a 132.3, which would be bat six in spring of Nope. Nope, that 132.3 was batch 12 from that's your batch from 2019 hey, ct, yours is 135, right, yours is a 15 year age.
Speaker 3:135 approved 2023. Jeff, what?
Speaker 1:was yours. Mine was 2019, batch 12, and that's the same batch.
Speaker 3:That, uh, that yeah, your t has right there. Yours is 116.9 15 year right no, what the?
Speaker 1:the 2019 was 132.3. 132.3? Yeah, 2019. I have that on here. Well, I've got it on the Buffalo Trace website Batch no okay, hold on 132.3 batch 12 summer of 2019.
Speaker 4:132.3 is what you gave me initially. Okay, we're looking at stag, junior. Jeff, I'm looking at junior. Yeah, it is because that's the bottle right here. That's 132.3, batch 12. That's Jr.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were talking about that, no we're talking about George T Stagg.
Speaker 3:We're talking about George T Stagg.
Speaker 1:Oh, you want to know what my.
Speaker 3:George, yeah, the George T Stagg that I gave you.
Speaker 1:Well, I got to go find that false bill. Oh my God, let's see. I think it's in the. I might have. Even I'll have to look. Hold on.
Speaker 3:And I'm actually drinking on a 2020 130.4. George T Stagg is what I've got open.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you, nash, you got to get a 24d. The 24d, in my opinion, is better than the george c sag. Wow it. The flavor is just wow. I mean, nose it, just it beats it, it's. It is so stinking sweet and just oh.
Speaker 3:Well, here's mine Mine.
Speaker 1:You should know which one you gave me, because you gave me that special low-proof bottle, if you remember Super Nash.
Speaker 3:For Christmas it was 116.9. Yep, there it is 2019 look at that color, oh my god. Yeah, I gave you the 2019 bottle your guys are super dark.
Speaker 1:That would be, I mean honestly looking at that. That should tell you something, right there is it Canadian whiskey? No, I put in it's Jim Beam Double Oak.
Speaker 3:Double Oak. I know you emptied that bottle.
Speaker 4:Don't be trying to re-gift that this Christmas I'll be paying attention to that.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it tastes so much like Beam. It's just like my kids are going be like holy shit, he's gotta be dead. No, you're a flipper, aren't you?
Speaker 3:you're a flipper, aren't you? No, I'm not um refilling, refilling bottles I gotta remember why I did it.
Speaker 1:I oh, it was because I wanted to do a poor video from the stag, so I just filled it up and with whatever and use the bottle because I didn't have.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, so you've got a fake video out there. Please, everybody, disregard that. That is not a fake, it's not a fake video.
Speaker 1:It's so funny, isn't it?
Speaker 3:like, like yeah we're both laughing literally wait, wait.
Speaker 1:It's like apple juice. I gotta ask I had I gotta add some uh coffee in there?
Speaker 3:hey, that's what a real ge T Stagg looked like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no kidding, it's up against a stag. I mean like look, Look at CT. I know.
Speaker 3:That's right, no doubt.
Speaker 1:It wasn't there as far as.
Speaker 3:That's what Super Nash does for you. That's a fact.
Speaker 4:Nash, thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Hey, I love you guys. Yeah, now that is the bottle.
Speaker 4:You know, the George T Stagg is a whole other level of finding that bottle because pretty much it's got to be entered into some kind of drawing or you know you're not walking in and finding that I've seen that's cool.
Speaker 1:That's cool Out of all the ones Out of all the ones out there, I always can see the George T Stagg. I've actually I understand you've got to pay a decent amount for it, but I've seen it okay, but the one that I've never seen. You don't see it like I do.
Speaker 3:CT? He didn't, I hadn't had a chance to tell you. I told him, but you know I'd been entered in the lottery at Helen's Cellary Helen's Cellars, right? So like about what? Five or six weeks ago, jeff, I got a call from him, right?
Speaker 1:No about two or three. No, no, right before the.
Speaker 3:It was in February.
Speaker 1:Right before Maker's Mark, like the week before we went to Maker's Mark. Yeah, the week before.
Speaker 3:Maker's Mark. So I get a call from him on Saturday I'm out in my shop working. I just happened to come into the house, you know, had my phone out there jamming. I come back out and I see this 404 number from Helen Georgia. I was, oh my God. I called them back immediately. I said hey, this is Martin Nash. Are you calling me about the lotteries? Yeah, we pulled your number, so guess what you won a George T'sies. Yeah, we pulled your number, so guess what you won a George T Stagg. Oh, jeez, yeah. So yeah, I went up three days later and so I've got this year's George T Stagg, or 2024 George T Stagg, sitting in my closet in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just so you knower, it was the same time at the same time they had a few bottles left.
Speaker 3:That's where I I got this stat, this stag, uh c, because I had the b but I didn't have the c. So uh, I said, and they said was there anything else you want that's left over here? I I said what about that stag? Yeah, I'll take it too. But yeah, that's like my fourth bottle of George T Stag that I've won in the lotteries.
Speaker 1:Well, and I've seen and known people that have won George T Stagg. I think honestly, I think in the lottery just this year, whiskey won a bottle of George T Stagg.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:So the George T Stagg is but the one bottle that doesn't get. I rarely see it was abundant this year. This one is not the abundant one, right. Oh my gosh, this is the one.
Speaker 3:That's what I asked him for. All the antique collection except for the Dorsey Stag was gone.
Speaker 1:All the Pappy's were gone because I wanted the Pappy 15. I swear to God.
Speaker 3:The Dorsey Stag was left.
Speaker 1:I would take this over. Pappy 15 oh yeah, william luerweller that's I think one of my favorite of all time. But just so you know, walker, I'm gonna throw this out here. It wasn't a fake, pour I was poor, doing a video of stag and and george Stag and all the bottles I had, and I was pouring it in a glass just for view, not for people to drink. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:I love it. I love that he's giving me crap.
Speaker 1:Hey Dario, what that? He's giving me crap for this. Yeah, you filled a bottle with apple juice. It's not apple juice, it's beans.
Speaker 3:Yes, walker, I am healed up.
Speaker 1:What did you say?
Speaker 3:Walker says you look healed up. You were healed up. Oh, healed up.
Speaker 1:Is Walker healed up now the question Foundation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how about your ankle Walker?
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's get back to the stag. Yes, so the whole premise of this is having the stag junior and then the first batch of stag, having the Stagg Jr and then the first batch of Stagg. Did they sacrifice anything when they changed it? Did they change anything? And I'm going to say, based off these two, You've got Jr too, right CT.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4:What do you think between the two that you're drinking, but again, mine are very different in the fact that the Junior that I have has. What am I trying to talk? I'm trying to talk.
Speaker 1:He likes his Junior.
Speaker 4:Cheers Daru. But Junior to me has a little more brown sugar. I feel like 24D brought in just a super good cherry note that I'm digging, and the more I drink a 24D, which would be the newest batch. If they're going backwards, I want to, I want to taste the forward, because these things, that 24d is amazing yeah, and I don't think they're going backwards.
Speaker 1:I actually think no, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're going backwards I think even in the 24d, I think they're starting to get some more age back in it and that's just a thing. Like Knob Creek, All I can say is these are 0.1% proof off as far as proof, and they got a consistency, there's no doubt. But I would say the brown sugar on the stag that first batch of stag was really good. The cherry was across the board on both of them. But I'm going to say no, they didn't lose anything. It's still there and that's something to say, because everything that you drink today, because of the fact that there's not the consistency, isn't as important as it was even in 2019, either they're making it better or it's still not. You know, whatever, and sometimes even some of the stuff you have, it's not as good. You know, you get a really good batch and then it takes a while to get it back.
Speaker 3:I gotta stand by it. Like I say, I think they take pride in what they're doing with the stag because you know it shows a reflection on the George T stag. You know, because it's got the name and, I believe, the taste panel when they're pulling these batches and putting these batches together, that they've got that profile that's always been there and they work so hard for it to stay there. And what they do for the price point, you cannot beat it.
Speaker 3:Like we've said time and time, like we said at the beginning, ct, and you too, jeff Tiny, you can't beat it. I think, like I said, they're doing a great job and, uh, I think they're going to continue to step it up, because that's what they want the name to be I mean walter, you know we're talking about.
Speaker 1:He just said stag is the best ever. How does buffalo trace do it? The north Star period? And I think it's honestly, I think you know George T Stagg is you guys, did you guys compare it? Did you pour some George T Stagg? And it's a different.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, I think George T Stagg in itself is a little bit. It's not. It doesn't have the masculinity of the stag. It from everything it's it's george t stag is like almost there to be easier, it's and stag has that bite and that thing that you want in a whiskey and a bourbon that you're going to drink. And, as he said, it's the North Star. But I mean it's just, it's like that cold weather, cold night thing where, where George T Stagg, and it's like I got a chance to drink the Buffalo Trace and tea collection across the board and uh, and you got the 2024 this year. Uh, and I got to taste that because that was the awards at that. You know that was a bottle from the awards, uh, uh, competition that happened at the brendiamo penthouse and I felt the stag was george c stag was good, but once again, when I drink the stag junior, the warmth does? Does your george t stags put out that hug?
Speaker 3:that happens, that rich thickness, I've got to say yes, but the George T Stagg to me it offers a lot more richness. Also, the age you can also tell the age there, but it's not so overpowering that it takes away from the flavor. There's a lot more had to pay for this, as compared to $79 that I had to pay for this, because that's what I had to pay for this stag. You know there's no difference. I'd pay $79 all day long for this because it's almost as comparable, except for maybe the age and not quite so much as the flavor. I think the flavor is there.
Speaker 1:I mean it's there, but I think it's got more power though, because when I drink the george, the george c sag is designed to have some easiness to it and it's still barrel strength. But this man, this has a little bit of pepper that the Stag George T Stag doesn't have and it's got like you know, it's like a power pack.
Speaker 3:You got a good point there and I think that comes from the blending there and I think that becomes. That comes from the blending and that's where that those that taste panel where they blend those barrels together that's where that comes from and and you make a great point about that and I think that's where that comes from yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just think this brand is something as, as you know, know, I don't think for the price that you pay, the availability that's there and the quality of what you're getting it just is what you want and you can get it, whereas, you know, the George T Stagg is like, how do you put it? This is the working man's bourbon special bottle and the George T Stagg is the rich man's special bottle. There you go, I said it. So I mean, they both are exceptional. I wouldn't turn down either one of them, that's for sure. But it really hurts your pocket, although you know, know, lately, if you're paying 179 for the george t stag I mean the prices lately have gone up to a point where 179 is cheap absolutely you know pulling in that double, double oak at 199 you9, you know,
Speaker 3:So it does help and definitely considering when that bottle right there at $179 goes for, you know, $1,000 on the secondary, $1,000 to $1,200 on the secondary.
Speaker 1:Well Walter's on my side he says Stag beats George T Stag. Sorry, not sorry. George T Stag is effing and aging, preach tiny.
Speaker 4:Well, especially in Ohio, where it's $59 per stag.
Speaker 1:But that's the price it should be. You know that it's going to be everywhere soon, didn't you say it was on your side?
Speaker 4:I disagree with that. Compared to what is on the market, stagg could easily Okay. Why should Stagg not bring $99? Compared to a Russell's 13, that's considerably more. Now this bottle to me, for what is in their lineup, should be $99 retail.
Speaker 3:I love this. Yeah, absolutely I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 1:I think anything. The state of Ohio has really been exceptionalized in the fact that we're spoiled out of our minds on what we can get things for the price. We get it Just like getting a barrel-proof. You know, Colonel Taylor, EH, Taylor, barrel proof. I mean at one point I was pulling stag for $54.99. I mean I got the stag, what was it? I mean we were Eagle Rare, it's like it was $29.99. Eagle Rare, it was $29.99. We just here in Ohio get it at prices that are even cheaper than the distillery.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep. That's why I like when I have to travel and work in North Carolina so much. Oh, my gosh, they were doing drops like you would not believe and I missed every one of them up in North Carolina. Uh, they dropped all the antique collections and, uh, the Pappy's everything and I missed them all because I was working in the other direction. But uh, but yeah, they dropped them all at MSRP.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, MSRP it's funny can be different at different places. I mean, our MSRP is a little bit more than the real MSRP because the taxes in Ohio are a little bit higher, but at the same time, North Carolina is pretty close to Ohio's Pretty close to Ohio's. As Randy Ford says, we're all spoiled. I agree.
Speaker 3:I agree with Randy.
Speaker 1:We are a little spoiled now, just being able to acquire what we do when we do well, that's the best part about it is when you're acquiring it as the scotchy bourbon boys, when you walk in and you walk out and you're just like, really, did that just happen? And then even the cooler part is when people just send me it. It's like that. It's like you know, once or twice a month there's a bottle of bourbon on my doorstep and I didn't even know who sent it to me until I do some investigating.
Speaker 3:So you know, it's now like I say I I am becoming completely spoiled because when I'm I mentioned to the these store owners here in South Carolina and Georgia and tell them who I am and and all of them now are becoming and knowing who I am and watching the podcast and all and how much, or my Facebook pages, how much I post about them, when I do acquire bottles, and all of a sudden, oh okay, well, I'm going to give it to you for this, but you know, and I mean, it's considerably less from what they want, for you know, because they charge, you know, all the way upwards to secondary prices, but I get it for considerably less.
Speaker 1:That's why I didn't want to when we were in Kentucky. I didn't want to hurt your feelings that you were going to be on double secret probation after that. Don't make me take away your Scotchy bourbon boys card oh my god, is it?
Speaker 3:I'm almost out again. No, not really, but you're not gonna get no more printed really yeah, so so you can go back.
Speaker 1:Um, one thing that I wanted to talk about is, uh, kentucky bourbon festival tickets are going to be going on sale soon and look forward to the podcast with randy prass. He's going to be on. I'll let you guys know when we get it. And, uh, uh, I mean it's going to be exciting this year. Uh, there's a lot of new things happening. It's a little bit different. You guys got to admit, don't you love the evolution? It's kind of like we're going to basically do a prayer group, ct, starting in August. It's going to be once every two weeks, just praying that all things happen and we're going to pray to the gods. We're going to pray to the gods. We're going to pray to the god, the weather gods. We're going to pray so that you can come down and experience kentucky bourbon festival with us for the full, full time that we're down there. But we're gonna. It's time for me to book the bus tour, so we're gonna put that out there. I need to get a count. You know what I mean. So I know what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3:So, walter, said, we also need to start thinking about the distilleries that we're going to choose this year too.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Choose what.
Speaker 3:For the bus tour. For the bus tour, the three distilleries.
Speaker 1:Well, you guys can pitch in what you want to do. Maybe we've never headed up to the Louisville area.
Speaker 3:And we have special friends that's always offered for us to come up there.
Speaker 1:That has contacts with those distilleries that live right there in the Louisville area which we can talk about later, that's just a hard thing to do how we get there and how we don't, just so you know, then again yeah, it's just a matter of paying a little bit more for gas. No well, maybe we'll go to the frankfurt area, because we didn't do that, and we'll make whiskey thief fit and then we'll just pick walter up when we're up there listen, I was gonna.
Speaker 4:I was just curious to say let's do this. If, if we can get walter to commit, we would make our first stopief. He has to go the rest of the trip with us, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll put that shout out right now. Right now Walter. We picked you up, we started Whiskey Thief and you go with us the rest of the way and, believe me, walter, I will turn you on to some old, old, old bourbon and whiskey, as I always do everybody.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then also, then afterwards we've got to go to Buffalo Trace and you've got to get Freddie to do our tour, ct.
Speaker 4:Oh well, we can probably get that to happen.
Speaker 1:And maybe get a special, maybe get a special tasting from Drew up there, you know, the master blender.
Speaker 4:Let me wake my wife. What the butter said let me wake my wife. You don't have to ask it right now.
Speaker 3:The butter said pray for the whiskey thief to still, and we can do that. But, I'm in.
Speaker 4:Oh, he says, but he's in, he's got to get clear. Let me wait my wife.
Speaker 1:So basically, we'll have to just put it out that it's the Kentucky Bourbon Boys, but sponsored by the Whiskey Thief Distilling Company. Bus tour.
Speaker 3:And also, too, I'll definitely contact freddie yeah, yeah I'd say and your wife and walter.
Speaker 4:Your wife is invited a killer bus tour right there. If we, if we go there and start at whiskey thief, we might have to end at whiskey thief too, though just yeah yeah, that way we can bring walter and his wife back.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe I know we got a thing, but we might have to spend the night in that area.
Speaker 3:We can also do that. I mean that's not out of the question, right?
Speaker 1:Right, right, and then figure out what the third distillery would be, but maybe we'll let Walter pick what that one is. We go to Buffalo Trace and then where afterwards I like it, guys.
Speaker 4:That sounds awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is shaping up. Yeah, this is a good start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, if we would finish up after 5 o'clock, we'll just then all go right back to Whiskey Thief.
Speaker 3:Hey, and then this year we wouldn't have to stop pizzas because we could eat off the food trailer at Whiskey Thief.
Speaker 4:Jeff's been talking about doing a barbecue with Walter at Whiskey Thief. It's the perfect opportunity to do a barbecue.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Who's been talking about that? You said something to.
Speaker 4:Walter about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, about doing a barbecue. Maybe that's a day well, you wouldn't want that, Then Walter would have to be there making sure all the barbecue was going good no. Walter will get people to handle it. He'll be back at 5 when they start serving the barbecue.
Speaker 4:I think we've just totally set this up for maybe the greatest bus tour ever.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's sounding like it's going to be.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I got some other ideas up my sleeve, but we're going to make this one.
Speaker 1:Maybe we can. Then we could go from, we could do that, we could do Buffalo Trace and then go see Jimmy and Eddie at eddie at uh, turkey, wild turkey, and we drag and down and in james down to make sure they go on the bus tour.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, I'm sure there's another guy in frankfort that'd like to come along by the name of amzy amzy. Yeah, amzy would do. We might have to stop for lunch at Waffle House on the way.
Speaker 3:No, that's out. Waffle. House is out, I'm going to have to call no on that.
Speaker 1:If we all get out and go to Waffle House, the shit will hit the fan. What about renting that total castle mansion right over that Carl was talking about? That sleeps like 10 people. We rent that for the night that night.
Speaker 3:Oh boy, scotty, bourbon Boy is throwing out the castle to everybody.
Speaker 4:Walter. I'll just give you a name, walter.
Speaker 3:Oh my.
Speaker 4:God, you work on the castle and the barbecue. You're just throwing out jobs for him now. Uh-oh, he'll get MZ in. All right, we're in Walker's already, like I got to be on this, hey.
Speaker 3:He just suggested Wild Turkey.
Speaker 1:I said that, wait, I said that Because if we get Ann and James on, she'll hook us up with Bruce and Eddie.
Speaker 4:Yep, and you're right, waffle House is perfect, it is, it's the best, and I'm just happy that Walter sees it that way, because I know Amzie does.
Speaker 3:Hey Walter.
Speaker 1:So we finish up.
Speaker 3:Waffle House is perfect. You just don't realize the last experience we had with AMZ. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:At Waffle House. I don't know how you After the.
Speaker 3:Bourbon Festival. Yeah, A late night. Well, actually it was a late night after the first night of Bourbon Festival. Mm-mm.
Speaker 1:Bourbon on the Banks of Bourbon, best Bourbon on the Banks.
Speaker 3:Bourbon on the Banks.
Speaker 1:yeah, the only night of Bourbon on the Banks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was Bourbon on the Banks.
Speaker 1:And somehow I left you and Amzie to get into the hotel on the back door and then it turned into like a trek through Mount Everest.
Speaker 3:Hey, two drunks walking down the street, one foot on the curb, one on the sidewalk, one on the curb, one on the sidewalk. Cops pull up. Hey guys, you drunk. We said no, you buying.
Speaker 1:Do you think, hey, walter, so if we do this through Kentucky Bourbon Boys, maybe, walter, we can do lunch at the Penn Dentist Club.
Speaker 4:That's in the other city. You fool, we're going to the farm, not the downtown.
Speaker 3:Where Tiny did not want to go in the first place, where we were talking about louisville and all that area, and he's like oh no that's too far.
Speaker 4:Yeah, now he's talking about going there so I think we're gonna have to talk to roger and make sure that everything works out, but I don't see why it's about 40 minutes oh wait, the lunch would be at the stave right the stave would be good and you know there's there's always uh. If we can't get into uh to wild turkey, we can always go see crazy dave for a tour. That'd be no, and oh no, let him take us on ground tour.
Speaker 1:My my, when I was in florida I saw my sister and she was in Kentucky with her daughter and they were just driving around Kentucky and they asked me where to go. So I told them to go, but it was a Sunday so everything was closed that I told them to do. They ended up at Wait, wait, what's it called? I remembered Blame's Creek. Blame's Creek, wait, wait, um, what's it called? I remembered. But glen's creek and michelle, my sister, was like it was like a hundred degrees and we went in there and we became captive. She goes. We were waiting for the tour. They told us it was tour. We sat there and all of a sudden this guy sits us down and we told him that we're beginners and he basically told them in so many words that he didn't care and that whatever he poured them, it's impolite not to drink at all well, and you know, you just have to know how to deal with country folk.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, she did not know how to deal with. She's from she's Wisconsin, but living in Florida and she's oh my God. And so she was just telling me about the experience and it was like 8,000 degrees and then it rained and she was like freaking out, driving on the road to get back up, you know, the one side road. She said the creeks were all high and that one was washed out so they couldn't go back to castle and key. They had to go up that one road and she thought somebody was going to come down. Oh my god.
Speaker 4:so that was pretty fun so, walter your question, you said save paper, pendennis club. If we're coming to frankfurt, obviously save. Uh, if we're coming to louisville, then pendennis. But I think that if we're going to do the tour, bus tour, taking people to the farm, is the best place to go yeah, absolutely not that I don't love the louisville spot I love it but I think that the overall experience it's it's kind of like getting getting their feet wet into what got.
Speaker 1:Well, I agree except you have to convince. You have to. Walter has to convince Hannah to be there when we're there. Oh yeah, that's got to well, yeah, that's got to happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but a good point is maybe Hannah can come, like the lunch stop would be a good place for the lunch stop would be the stave yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to try and get enough people for two buses.
Speaker 4:If we do this trip, there will be two buses.
Speaker 3:Yes, absolutely We'll make it happen, we will. I guarantee you we'll get enough people when they find out what's happening on this trip. Yeah.
Speaker 4:This will be the best bus tour we've had.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they might want to try to get enough people to get a third bus.
Speaker 1:No, no, the two buses are all you can do at Distill.
Speaker 3:I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:If we get a third, bus, then we just stay at Whiskey Thief the whole time. The bus would take us there.
Speaker 3:Take us to lunch and put us back at Whiskey. Thief would take us there. I want to be on. This will be an epic tour and you'll be privileged to get get on one of the two buses I'm just saying.
Speaker 4:Walter said hannah is there more than me. Uh, no comment all right guys.
Speaker 3:What do you think?
Speaker 4:we, we gotta get this wrapped up. We're at 10, 15 boys yep, yep, for sure.
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