306. Live Emotional Brain Training Coaching Session to Uncover the Root of Stress Eating

⚠️ Content Note: This episode contains a real EBT coaching session with brief references to war, the death of a family member, and emotional neglect. Please listen only if you feel grounded and safe, and pause anytime you need. This episode is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health care.

If you’ve ever wondered why years of trying so hard to change still haven’t led to the breakthrough you want with food, this episode will give you a whole new level of hope. Today, you’ll hear a powerful Emotional Brain Training (EBT) coaching session with Carolyn, a Zivli member who shared that she has been in 12-step programs for 38 years and spent countless hours in counseling trying to understand and heal patterns that never fully shifted.

After this session, she wrote:
 “I woke up this morning with deep joy in my heart that I was alive and blessed to be able to hold and rock my babies, 22 grandbabies, and now my great granddaughter… that my body has been a blessing to me and others. Thank you for helping me experience that joy.”

In this episode, you’ll hear how EBT helps you gently uncover the emotional circuit driving overeating, use a tool called a travel back to bring safety, love, and wisdom to an earlier version of yourself, and shift from self-blame into compassion, clarity, and power. It’s a tender, empowering example of how emotional patterns that feel lifelong can finally begin to change.

You don’t need any prior experience with EBT to follow along—just listen and notice what resonates.

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Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:00)
Tom and I have been married for 45 years and ⁓ he was across from me at the table and he said to me, ⁓ my gosh, I'm falling in love with the woman I had at the very beginning. There's a woman in my life that I call an irregular person. In the past, she always sets me off emotionally. And ⁓ this time when I was with her, I was able to almost have an out of body experience where I was just kind of step back.

emotionally and inside I actually felt at great peace and I came home and I was visiting with Tom about it and he was totally floored because in the past I just get into such a tizzy just being in the same room with her. I just felt like I was prepared to be there and I was at peace just listening to the conversation. Didn't have to participate in it and I didn't have to judge or get angry and get into all of the past with her.

Speaker 1 (00:56)
Hi, I'm Dr. Morgan Nolte, founder of Zivli. As a geriatric physical therapist, I saw the heartbreaking effects of insulin resistance. At Zivli, our mission is to help you prevent and reverse insulin resistance for long-term weight loss and disease prevention through a low insulin and inflammation lifestyle.

Each week on this podcast, you'll learn simple, actionable tips to lose weight, keep it off, and get healthy. If you're ready to create a body and life you love, you're in the right place. Let's get started.

Is that not such a huge testament to the power of emotional brain training? my goodness, after I heard that from her, I was like on a high for days. I could not stop talking about EBT and the power of it. And let's be real, if you know me personally, I haven't really stopped talking about it for the last six months. The episode that you are about to hear or listen to if you're watching on YouTube is about six months in the making.

I have been very quiet on social media, very quiet on the podcast and YouTube because I've been working, doing the deep personal work of emotional brain training to rewire my own stress circuits. I've also been going through a lot of certification materials to become a certified EBT provider so that I can use this transformative coaching technique for others and help them discover and rewire their own circuits. If you've never heard of emotional brain training, frankly, I am not that surprised.

I feel like it's been this underground method that's gaining some serious traction. It was developed by Dr. Laurel Mellon after about 40 years and at least 14 research studies backing that it is the only science proven way to rewire the stress circuits in your brain, transform them into joy circuits. And this does two really, really important things. Number one, it changes your biochemistry. Because when you're in stress, there's about eight weight regulating hormones that get totally thrown off.

and make you wanna eat the crummy food, make you wanna skip your workouts, make you wanna stay up late. But when you're in joy, there are some hormonal shifts like an increase in serotonin and dopamine and oxytocin. And when you feel better, you can make healthier choices so much easier. EBT is the only science-backed way to change your brain wiring. And because I'm all about evidence-based, I was hooked immediately.

I said, if this is the only way to do it, I'm gonna go all in on this method. And I kid you not, I have spent tens of thousands of dollars to learn and bring this method to our members. I have spent the last several months of my life learning it personally, working directly with Dr. Mellon to create an entirely new course module for our Zivli members to help them learn emotional brain training faster so that they get better results that last.

And I've started to bring these coaching techniques to our members. I'm so proud and excited about that because it was a lot of work. It was a big investment and I knew that it had to be done because I saw the power of EBT for myself and you're gonna see it. You're gonna see it. You're gonna hear it in this session and I'm really excited for you. So if you're wondering, well, where has she been? What is she doing? This is what I've been doing. And it is amazing, amazing stuff. I hope that you...

are so moved by this session that you share it with at least one person. I have shared EBT with my best friends, with my mom, obviously all of our Zipflee members, any family that will listen. My husband, my kids, we are all EBT-ers now and it's really the most effective, fast and powerful way to change your brain so that the behaviors that you've been trying to adopt actually stick. Because let's be real, self-sabotage doesn't happen

when you're happy and go lucky, right? It happens during the holidays, like right now when we're all stressed out, you sabotage when you're stressed. So doesn't it make sense to treat the stress directly? Because if you don't get stressed out or you have very strong stress resilience pathways, you don't have to fear stress anymore, it just becomes a moment of opportunity. A moment of opportunity to strengthen those pathways even more and create more.

joy in your life. EBT is all about creating joy. And again, EBT is now part of Zivli. Like we teach this in our program. We use it. I use it every single day. And enrollment is open from December 4th through the 12th. And we're going to start the first week in January of 2026. So you can get on the wait list. There's a link in the description. And if you just want to learn more about Zivli and see emotional brain training live, definitely register for our free blood sugar bootcamp.

I'm hosting this, a three-part live training series on December 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. So you're gonna learn more about insulin resistance and blood sugars, emotional brain training, stress, rewiring your brain, all this good stuff. It's really gonna be unlike anything else that I have done before. It's very interactive, and you're going to walk away with your personalized blood sugar plan.

If you're watching this live, there's a link in the description to sign up. If you're watching this later down the road, there's still gonna be links below to connect with us and maybe get on our wait list so that you're notified the next time we host a live training series like this. So clearly I could go on and on and on and I will over time, but that's enough for today. I wanted to get to today's episode. Today's episode is a coaching session that I did with one of our members.

Now she had been practicing emotional brain training like the step one, which is self-regulation, essentially creating joy in her life and learning how to strengthen her own stress resilience pathways using the Spiral Up app by EBT. So we teach our members how to do this and they learn how to create joy in their life so that they're then drawn to this deeper rewiring work. She said to me, Morgan, I think I'm ready to find my food circuit. I said, fantastic.

I know you've been doing the work. I know that your brain is ready for this, so let's go, let's do it. And so we did it later that day and it was amazing, frankly. Just blew me away how deep she could go in her brain because she'd been doing that prerequisite work of self-regulation. One thing you will for sure notice about today's episode is how authentic and vulnerable this member was. And I had not planned on sharing this with the broader audience because it is very personal.

But then I just kind of felt this calling. I felt like God wanted me to bring this to a broader audience. And I know the impact that EBT has had on me personally and on this member. And so I emailed this member and I said, would you be willing to allow me to share this in some capacity with either our coaching team for training or maybe I could put it in our course as an exemplary session or maybe I could just share it with people in the bootcamp or

Maybe I could share it with our entire YouTube and podcast community and get this out to as many people as possible. And this was her response back to me. Morgan, thank you for your email. I have been involved in 12 step programs for 38 years, have done countless hours of counseling to figure out how to try to stay married and survive it, prayed, been prayed over and just continued to hit the wall looking for a breakthrough. EBT has blessed me, my family and friends.

beyond measure. I even shared it with a friend who started reading Laurel's book, The Stress Eating Solution, a few weeks ago. And she leads a support group once a week and the participants complained that she was too joyful. I would be honored to share it in any way you feel would bless others in their healing process. Thanks again for working with me. I woke up this morning with deep joy in my heart that I was alive and blessed to be able to hold and rock my babies, 22 grand babies.

and now my great granddaughter, that my body has been a blessing to me and others. Thank you for helping me experience that joy. Blessings, Carolyn. And that email made me very emotional because I feel the same way. I had the same transformational results using emotional brain training, especially with my mood and my love circuits. It has transformed my marriage and my parenting and my relationship with myself. So much personal work has gone into being able to coach like this.

you're going to see that this is different from anything else that you've ever seen, anything else that you've ever tried. Now know that she shuts her camera off when she does the work because you're able to go deeper in your brain when you're not really worried about what you look like. And often I close my eyes during this session because I want to get emotionally connected with her as much as possible and honestly spiritually connected with her as much as possible. And I can only do that if everything else is

like tuned out. So I close my eyes, I put my hand on my heart a lot and I'm tuned in totally to her, totally to what she's saying, how she's feeling and that spiritual connection. And that's a big part of emotional brain training. You can't get that with AI. AI can tell you what to eat, it can tell you how to exercise, but you cannot have that type of connection with an inanimate object. In order to go deep into her brain, she had to borrow my brain state. I had to co-regulate with her.

And that is a skill that no technology can ever replicate. The other thing that you're gonna notice a lot is that we use the power of the pause. Our thinking brain loves to ruminate on our problems, and we think that we're so smart and we always have the answer. But very, very often, you're gonna hear me keep her in silence, extend the silence. And that is to shut the thinking brain off and allow the words to bubble up from the emotional brain. So if you're like, did...

Does the audio stop or is the video broken? No, it's not. We're using the power of the pause and I want you to use that too. I want you to be as present as you can be during this cycle. Don't put it on one and a half or double speed. Just be with us. Because when one person cycles, everyone cycles. EBT is best done in a group because it's an emotional experience and the emotional brain is a social brain. It needs lots of nurturing and love and connection to change.

and just listening to this episode will change your emotional brain. I am so excited and honored to be able to bring this to you. Now, usually during a cycle, ⁓ the provider doesn't talk a lot. So I'm gonna give a little bit more pre-framing just because this is the first cycle that people may have experienced. ⁓ There is room for every emotion during the cycle. And...

The first, I'm just gonna kinda talk us through it for the benefit of everybody listening. Is that okay, Carolyn? Okay, so when we're looking for a food circuit, you're gonna start by complaining about your overeating and we wanna ramp up the stress. We had a great question last week about, why don't you complain about feelings during the, well, the situation is, we just want the facts, no feelings. And that's because when you talk about your feelings, the stress goes away.

and we don't want the stress to go away quite yet. We wanna ramp up the stress all the way through the anger procedure and then it will come back down. But when we ⁓ pull the escape valve by talking about feelings, you're actually not gonna allow yourself to go as deep into the brain as possible, okay? So that's why we talk about just the facts, no feelings, because we wanna ramp up the anger. It's a lot less

painful to think than to feel. And that's why we tend to think so much about our problems and ruminate about our problems and kind of resist doing the emotional work because it can be a little bit harder and more painful. So I just wanted to acknowledge the resistance that's very natural to EBT. That's just the amygdala, the stress center in your brain saying, I don't want to change, I don't want to change, I'm fine.

And so I think it's just okay, like let's recognize we all have the resistance and we all want to grow into ⁓ the person that we were made to be. So I think this is a big part of the process. So I might use a little bit more words just to kind of explain things, but I'm gonna try as hard as I can to not. So I'm excited, Carolyn, I'm really excited for you. And let's get to it. The situation is you're just gonna complain about your eating habits and I will lead you through all the prompts.

If you want to turn your camera off, you can. It's up to you. So the situation is about five sentences, just the facts, no feelings.

Speaker 2 (14:03)
The situation is I overeat and it keeps me down. I am trying to prove that I am bad.

and that I will disappoint everyone so I hurt myself before by eating. And I eat and eat and eat. eat so I don't have to, so I don't have to make changes in my life.

Speaker 1 (14:29)
⁓ Wonderful.

One I'm most stressed about is...

Speaker 2 (14:39)
What I'm most stressed about is...

Speaker 1 (14:41)
Something you're doing that you want to stop doing. What I'm most stressed about is, and then pause, let the words bubble up.

Speaker 2 (15:04)
I'm killing myself with food.

Speaker 1 (15:10)
I feel angry that I'm killing myself with food.

I can't stand it that I'm killing myself with food.

Speaker 2 (15:24)
I can't stand it that I'm killing myself with food.

Speaker 1 (15:29)
I hate it that I'm killing myself with food.

Speaker 2 (15:41)
I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I really, really hate it that I'm killing myself with food. I won't stop, I just won't stop.

Speaker 1 (15:53)
hate that it does this to me. I hate that it makes me sick. I hate that I can't control this. I hate that I want to stop. can't stop. I hate it.

Speaker 2 (16:01)
I hate that I can't stop. I hate that I hate myself. I hate that I, I hate it that I hurt myself, that my health is in bad shape, that I can't do the things that I love to do. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

Speaker 1 (16:20)
Stay in that anger, more anger, five more hates. I hate this and I hate.

Speaker 2 (16:28)
I hate it that I can't move around the house easily. I hate it that I can't take walks. I hate it that I hurt myself with food. I hate it that I make all the expenses for our family because of what I'm eating all the time. I hate it, I hate it.

Speaker 1 (16:44)
Okay.

Stay in that anger, stay in it until your brain shuts off or it turns to tender sweet sadness.

If you need to express more anger, go for it. And let me know when you're ready for more.

Speaker 2 (17:47)
I'm ready for more.

Speaker 1 (17:49)
Wonderful, take a deep breath.

I feel sad that the loss to me about the topic that I'm killing myself with food is.

Speaker 2 (18:13)
I feel sad that

The last to me about killing myself with food.

I don't know how to love myself.

Speaker 1 (18:52)
Are you in that sadness?

until it fades all the way.

I feel afraid that if I don't resolve this topic of killing myself with food, the consequences that matter the most to me are, so you can say, I feel afraid that.

Speaker 2 (19:51)
I feel afraid that...

I'll die an early death.

Speaker 1 (20:04)
And how would that affect relationships?

Speaker 2 (20:17)
I won't be here for my kids, my grandkids, my great grandkids.

I won't have a relationship with myself.

Speaker 1 (20:33)
Hmm.

You're doing great. Stay in that fear until it fades all the way and let me know.

Speaker 2 (21:02)
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:03)
Okay, Carolyn, I want you to sit up nice and tall. Put your shoulders back and with a positive, joyful voice, I want you to use a powerful voice. Hey everybody, I do have some power here.

So go ahead and say that.

Speaker 2 (21:25)
Hey everybody, I do have some power here.

Speaker 1 (21:29)
I feel guilty that I'm killing myself with food.

Speaker 2 (21:33)
I feel guilty that I'm killing myself with food.

Speaker 1 (21:38)
Why don't I do the logical, sensible thing and...

Speaker 2 (21:43)
Why don't I do the logical and sensible thing and...

Speaker 1 (21:47)
Pause and let the words bubble up.

Speaker 2 (22:31)
Trust the process is what keeps coming. ⁓

Speaker 1 (22:34)
Sure, yeah.

Why don't I just do the logical, sensible thing and trust the process?

Well, of course I'm not just gonna do that. Of course I'm not just gonna trust the process because my unreasonable expectation is, go ahead and say that, of course I'm not gonna trust the process.

Speaker 2 (23:01)
Of course I'm not going to trust the process.

Speaker 1 (23:04)
Because my unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 2 (23:07)
Because my unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 1 (23:12)
I get my, and then pause.

Speaker 2 (23:17)
I get mine.

Speaker 1 (23:22)
And we're waiting for an emotional need to bubble up like existence, safety, survival, love, comfort.

Identity. Power. Peace.

Let's see what bubbles up.

Speaker 2 (23:57)
I have two words, security and power.

Speaker 1 (24:00)
Wonderful. Of course, I wouldn't just trust the process because my unreasonable expectation is I get my security, I get my power. I want you to say each of those and see which one rings more true. So let's start with security. Well, of course, I wouldn't just trust the process because I get my security and then do the same thing with power and see which one kind of the,

know, tug of war here.

Speaker 2 (24:33)
The beginning of the prompt is I...

Speaker 1 (24:36)
Of course, well of course I wouldn't just trust the process because

Speaker 2 (24:39)
First,

I wouldn't distrust the process because I get my...

Speaker 1 (24:43)
My unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 2 (24:46)
My unreasonable expectation is I get my security.

Speaker 1 (24:50)
I get no-

And feel that. We're seeing which one is stronger.

that and then we can try power again.

Speaker 2 (25:13)
Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:15)
Well, of course, I wouldn't just follow the process or trust the process.

Speaker 2 (25:20)
Well, of course I wouldn't distrust the process.

Speaker 1 (25:24)
because my unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 2 (25:29)
My unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 1 (25:34)
I get my power and then pause.

Speaker 2 (25:37)
I get my power.

It's definitely power.

Speaker 1 (25:48)
Okay, wonderful. So that's that body feel of it ringing true.

We're gonna start from the top and we're gonna find the y part of this food equation. Well, of course I wouldn't just trust the process because my unreasonable expectation is, go ahead and start with that.

Speaker 2 (26:11)
course I wouldn't just trust the process because my unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 1 (26:18)
I get my power from and then pause.

Speaker 2 (26:22)
I get my power from...

Speaker 1 (26:25)
See what follows up.

Speaker 2 (27:05)
Stuffing food is what comes up.

Speaker 1 (27:13)
want you to just double check that and we're gonna talk about some things, stuffing food.

to the point that or.

shoveling food into my mouth or the taste of food under my mouth. Like I just want to be sure that those words match the circuit. So let's double check that and see. Say, my unreasonable expectation is

Speaker 2 (27:45)
My unreasonable expectation is...

Speaker 1 (27:48)
I get my power from

Speaker 2 (27:51)
I get my power from...

Speaker 1 (27:55)
Be sure that the words ring true.

Speaker 2 (28:29)
So just pushing the food inside of me so I don't feel, I don't experience what's going on around me.

Speaker 1 (28:40)
Okay, so pushing food inside me.

so I don't feel what's going on around me.

Speaker 2 (28:51)
Mmhmm.

Speaker 1 (28:58)
Which one feels more true to you? I get my power from stuffing food or I get my power from pushing food inside me so I don't feel what's going on around me.

Speaker 2 (29:08)
pushing food inside of me so I don't feel what's going on around me.

Speaker 1 (29:12)
Yeah. Wonderful. I wanted to ask you, does that feel old to you?

Speaker 2 (29:23)
Yeah, I had a little image of myself just as a little tiny person kind of hiding with my arms over my head trying to protect myself.

Speaker 1 (29:35)
Is this an imagined image or did that actually happen?

Speaker 2 (29:42)
I don't know if it ever happened. It's just something that popped into my head when we were just doing this last little bit. Just like a fear.

Speaker 1 (29:52)
Yeah, yeah. Do you have any actual images as you say the words of that circuit, I get my power from pushing food inside me so I don't feel what's going on around me. Do you have any images that come up from earlier in life, adolescence, childhood?

Speaker 2 (30:14)
Yeah, definitely. My brother was killed in Vietnam and so the rest of the war we had to watch the news during dinner every night and we couldn't speak so that we could watch all the battles.

Speaker 1 (30:36)
I think you found the words of your circuit very well.

I want you to just think about that image, Carolyn. Do you clearly see yourself in that image?

Speaker 2 (30:54)
the dining room table, The day my brother was buried, the four youngest kids, weren't allowed to go in. There was this, ⁓ people had brought food, and our dining room table was just full of food. ⁓ But we couldn't go to the funeral, so we never had that closure.

Speaker 1 (31:19)
I'm really sorry to hear that. My heart definitely goes out to you.

Do you feel love? Like how old were you when that happened? Seven. Do you feel love for that younger version of yourself in the image?

Speaker 2 (31:33)
Seven.

Maybe compassion?

Speaker 1 (31:45)
Okay.

Do you feel drawn to stepping into that image as the older, wiser you? Do you feel drawn to step in and kind of share some love and wisdom with the younger version of yourself?

Speaker 2 (32:01)
Yes, definitely. Great.

Speaker 1 (32:06)
You should take a deep breath. Put yourself back there. ⁓ I know that this is hard, but it's very powerful. One of the most powerful things you can do.

I want you to tell the younger version of yourself.

what she needed to hear to feel safe, to have power, whether that be addressing your parents, siblings, yourself.

What did you need to express to feel safe then? Emotionally safe?

Speaker 2 (32:56)
Carolyn, it wasn't your fault.

You didn't kill him.

You didn't do anything.

All the anger and violence. It wasn't you. It wasn't you.

Speaker 1 (33:31)
great.

Speaker 2 (33:32)
Mom and Dad compared you to Fern and all your life. Always said you were just like him and you didn't even know him. You were just little when he left home.

Totally innocent, didn't do anything wrong.

And you didn't.

All the times you said that you wished it was you dying it's today and-

God has a plan for you! He always has!

You are truly just a child of God. You're just a little tiny girl.

And nobody can hold you or talk to you or console you. But I'm here now to console you. I'm here now to hold you.

Vernon never would have wanted you to hurt like this. He doesn't want you to hurt yourself.

Your brother's all up to it.

Speaker 1 (34:58)
Do you need to address your parents at all for not allowing you to go to the funeral? Like is there any emotional safety around that or no?

Speaker 2 (35:17)
I don't know. Your kids, didn't think littles were hurting, but we were.

Speaker 1 (35:26)
So what about express, why didn't you see me? Do you need to express anger at your parents for not seeing you? You were hurting too. Do you need to do any of that?

Speaker 2 (35:41)
Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:43)
So as an authoritative figure, tell your parents what they need to hear in order for you to feel safe. So you now tell your parents then, hey, what are you thinking? She's hurting too. Are you just gonna ignore her and compare her to Vernon for the rest of her life? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (36:11)
Mom and dad, I don't know what was going on, but I, you just needed to hold her. You needed to rock her and to listen to her. I know you always made fun of her because ⁓ she talked, but that's cause she had things going on. She was trying to figure out what happened. The family fell apart. Our world was gone.

Speaker 1 (36:20)
her.

Pay attention to her!

Speaker 2 (36:46)
Hey attentioner, darn it, just look at her! Just look at her with love this time, not with disdain always. Always thinking she wasn't enough. She's actually very beautiful. She has so much giftedness. Believe in her. Believe in her. She's a good person.

Speaker 1 (37:14)
year.

Nice deep breath.

Does little Carolyn feel safe?

Speaker 2 (37:35)
Yes.

Speaker 1 (37:40)
relish that feeling of safety.

Feel safe. And when you're ready, I want you to continue making that little Carolyn feel so loved. You give her the love that your parents couldn't give you at the time for whatever reason. You're going to go love her now. What does she need to hear? Maybe you need to cuddle, maybe you need to go for a walk, pick her up and hold yourself cheek to cheek.

Love her.

What does that look like?

Speaker 2 (38:23)
They're rocking.

The skin, the skin touching.

Speaker 1 (38:36)
What nurturing words does she need to hear to know in her core that she is loved so that this food wire would have never, you know, let's just start, we'll just start with love. What does she need to hear to feel so loved?

Speaker 2 (38:53)
You're so beautiful. You have so much joy.

You have so much goodness inside of you.

just your delight in being alive, part of nature, part of a family.

Your smile.

You're so intelligent and capable.

You don't have to be afraid. You just don't have to be afraid. Because I'm going to be here for you. I'm going to hold you. I'm going to love you.

You are complete, you're whole.

Speaker 1 (40:05)
⁓ this carolyn little seven year old carolyn could all the way love.

Now the last part of this travel back is giving wisdom. What words did little Carolyn need to hear so that this food wire would have never been instated?

Speaker 2 (40:35)
will never abandon you, will never leave you alone.

Whatever your needs are, you can come and talk to us. We'll be there to hold you.

be aware of you, to want to.

You don't have to injure yourself to get our attention. We love you.

Speaker 1 (41:13)
You don't have to injure yourself to get our attention. We love you.

That is so beautiful.

Take another deep breath.

Do you feel drawn to answer three questions to strengthen your self-compassion right now, Carolyn?

Speaker 2 (41:44)
Yes.

Speaker 1 (41:46)
So who are you? At your essence, at your core, who are you?

Speaker 2 (41:54)
I'm a beautiful child of God.

Speaker 1 (41:58)
then what challenge are you facing right now?

Speaker 2 (42:08)
accepting all the goodness He is giving me as a gift.

Speaker 1 (42:14)
and considering that there are millions of people in the world facing that same challenge of accepting everything that he gives as a gift. Who do you want to be in facing that challenge?

Speaker 2 (42:34)
I want to be a courageous and alive.

Speaker 1 (42:40)
I feel grateful that.

Speaker 2 (42:44)
I feel grateful that he's given me EBT.

Speaker 1 (42:50)
I feel happy that.

Speaker 2 (42:53)
I feel happy that I have an opportunity to heal.

Speaker 1 (42:59)
I feel secure that.

Speaker 2 (43:04)
I feel secure that.

I have the tools needed to take care of myself now.

Speaker 1 (43:15)
I feel proud that

Speaker 2 (43:18)
I feel proud that I'm willing to do the work.

Speaker 1 (43:24)
I expect myself to do the best I can to.

Speaker 2 (43:29)
I expect myself to do the best I can to.

Let go of the excess food.

Speaker 1 (43:40)
Crush this food circuit. Yes, let go of the excess food. My positive, powerful thought is...

Speaker 2 (43:49)
My positive powerful thought is, I can do it.

Speaker 1 (43:56)
I can do it. The essential pain is.

Speaker 2 (44:01)
The essential pain is it takes work.

Speaker 1 (44:07)
But by crushing this food circuit, my earned reward is...

Speaker 2 (44:12)
By crushing this food circuit, my earned reward is integrity doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (44:22)
I want you to feel that surge of joy of feeling connected to the deepest part of yourself.

try to deepen and lengthen that joy.

You did beautiful work. I would love a connecting message. So I don't know if, we'll see if Beth is on here. Beth, can you give Carolyn a connecting message? Yeah, I can definitely do one. Carolyn, when you did your work, the feelings and sensations in my body were kind of a pit in my stomach and a heaviness. I got a little bit of chills. I teared up a little bit. And then kind of a feeling of hope and lightness.

And I got chills again. The way your work was a gift to me was...

Gosh, it was just like a reminder of finding my food circuit and I'm working on a body circuit right now. So just like solidarity and how important EBT is and how powerful it can be. So thank you. Carolyn, I'd like to give you one too. Carolyn, when you did the work, the feelings and sensations in my body were connectedness.

tingles.

My palms got kind of sweaty.

and awe and

admiration.

And the way your work was a gift to me was experiencing the powerful effect of a travel back. It was really beautiful. And the power of the pause. know, when you paused, just the power of the pause. ⁓ I needed that reminder today to pause more during my work. So thank you.

⁓

How are you feeling now, Carolyn?

Speaker 2 (46:43)
I'm exhausted.

that it's interesting because part of it, the sun started shining on me and I was just grateful for the warmth and just to feel that it's a hard thing for me because of the people pleaser in me. But there was a point where my thought came, my gosh, I'm taking all these people's time. That was hard for me because then it's then to get back to my own, my own

needs and my own healing that I had to tell myself it's okay just and I and I did I had my eyes closed the whole time so even though your screen is in front of me I didn't know you know and there's anyway all that messaging inside like everybody's gonna be gone but Morgan

Speaker 1 (47:36)
Everyone's here. But I have that open invitation. If anyone needs to hop off, you need to hop off. No harm, no foul. That expectation is that you got so many warm, loving messages. I think that when one person does a cycle, we have to recognize we all do a cycle. Everybody felt those emotions.

I didn't allow everyone to give a connecting message because we haven't practiced yet and I want to be sure that you're safe. So you feel exhausted naturally. Anything else? Any other feelings that you're experiencing?

Speaker 2 (48:17)
Something I've learned when I do my EBT work to tell you the truth is I tend to finish this and I'm on like a high emotional high, you know? But then I just, my automatic thing is I got to get on to the next thing. Do you know what I'm saying? And I did that yesterday and I thought, nope, today you're just going to sit with it. It's like I don't allow myself to really feel it deep, deep down.

get busy with whatever the next thing is.

Speaker 1 (48:51)
Absolutely. what was the most important thing that you learned from going through that?

Speaker 2 (49:00)
Morgan, ⁓ I've been working trying to lose weight. Well, not just trying to lose weight, but that whole battle and that image of the dining room table has come back to me with that food so many times and all the work that I've done, but I've never gotten to the place where I could actually walk through that. And one of the things is my dad built that table and that table wasn't

the correct height. So I always think about that because I was seven and a half. So literally I believe that my nose was right at the height of the table. It was just full of food. But I've had that image come to my mind so many times and ⁓ I knew it had some connection to the whole, all of the breakdown of things for me. So I really appreciated that.

Speaker 1 (49:58)
I wanted to read something to you. it all right if I share a little tip with you?

Speaker 2 (50:04)
Yes.

Speaker 1 (50:05)
I don't, okay, I'm gonna try to get to the exact thing because it was really powerful. It was from the sanctuary kit exercise that I did this morning and it was exactly like in relation to what you just said.

I don't think that I'm gonna be able to find it fast enough, but essentially your emotional brain will hang on to those experiences because there's something to learn from them.

Memories will be pestering you until you reap all of the wisdom that we can get out of them.

And that was such a deep, beautiful travel back, Carolyn. ⁓ What we call this next two to four hours is the rewiring window. So the circuit is hot, the circuit is online. And this is gonna be really effective for you to go through that travel back at least one more time, just like we did. You're gonna step in, you're gonna create safety.

Give love and give wisdom. And if you wanna do it through the app, you can. It's just a little bit discombobulated to get to. I would just go straight to the memory, just like we did, and replay those words, how you are being an authority to your parents and telling them what in the world were you thinking, all the things you just did. You did just, I mean, the love that you gave, the wisdom that you gave, it was just the words that you needed to hear. I wanted you to remember.

I was gonna write it down and I didn't, but it was when you said you don't have to hurt yourself to get attention. I think when you revisit the travel back, you really wanna impart the wisdom on a repetitive basis, like stuff like that. Sometimes you can even kind of negate the circuit. You cannot get your power. I'm gonna type this in the chat so you can type it and paste it before we get off. You cannot get your power from pushing food inside of you.

You can't, know, until the, so that you don't feel what's going on around you. And you're gonna notice that you can use you, Carolyn, like you cannot do that, or we cannot do that, or I cannot do that, whatever language feels best to you during this travel back, you, we, I, just replay that. Just kind of sit in that. And that would be my provider tip for you is you've discovered your circuit, which is huge.

We're gonna throw a you know, a big little party before we hop off. And now, now remember the five phases of sit with it. So there's discovery, which you just did, beautiful. Coherence, which you definitely started to do. I can't even believe that. Like, where did this come from? Oh, I know exactly where this came from. I know exactly where this came from. Analysis, so.

Speaker 2 (53:10)
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (53:15)
Well, did my parents have a similar circuit? Or how did this affect the rest of my life? You're just gonna kind of let your emotional brain meander around the circuit to make sense of it. And then you're gonna grieve the circuit. And how has eating to the point that you're killing yourself with food?

Pushing food inside of you so you don't feel what's going on around me, what did you miss? Connection with yourself, connection with others, health issues, mean, worry. There's a lot to grieve about every single wire that we find.

Speaker 2 (53:56)
Mm.

Speaker 1 (53:58)
And that's where the clutter clearing comes in. So if you wanna email me anytime, you wanna email me between now and January is totally fine. If you need some direction, you can also write an ASCA code to like, okay, this is what I'm doing. What's kind of the next step, so to speak. You're welcome to email me anytime. What I would suggest is a clutter list. And this might be a really nice thing to do if you have some time today while that wire is hot. If you can think back through images,

Any strong ones like that table when you were seven, pushing food inside me so I don't feel what's going on around me. Because you did such a powerful travel back, that may have busted clutter later in your life, I don't know. You might feel drawn to negation sooner rather than later. But I like to err on the side of being very thorough with our clutter clearing so that the wire is less likely to get reinstated.

So would just make a clutter list. What are all the images, native experiences, fear memories that I have around this specific circuit? I just keep a note on my phone. And then the last step is loving the circuit. So you'll get to the point where, and this circuit served a purpose. Caused a lot of consequences, but it was doing, it was there for a reason. It was trying to give me power.

didn't work long term, but it had a purpose. So really going back and just loving the circuit and appreciating what it tried to do for you. Once you go through those five phases, you will naturally be drawn to negate the circuit. Your brain will say, this, this is not me anymore. This unreasonable expectation I no longer want to hold and I am ready to negate it. That's when you'll move into negation. Again, I'm happy to help you.

All of, if you wanted, yeah, all that stuff is kind of outlined again in the rewiring lessons, so that can be kind of helpful for your next steps as well. You did beautifully today. Beautifully. Really.

Speaker 2 (56:09)
I thank all of you guys for being here.

Speaker 1 (56:12)
It was our pleasure. Yes. It was a gift to us. Also, I just want to throw like a little quick party. Everybody come off mute and say, yay, Carolyn, for finding your food circuit. Yay, Carolyn. Good job. job. Good job. job.

Speaker 2 (56:28)
Good job.

Speaker 1 (56:36)
How many times have you rummaged through that and you're finally gaining the wisdom that your brain was trying to tell you because we have these processes and these tools and these pathways that we can use now. Yay. All right, Carolyn, what did we co-create today? We are creating joy and what in our lives today?

Speaker 2 (56:59)
joy and integrity.

Speaker 1 (57:02)
Okay, count us out. So the count of three, we are creating joint integrity in your life setting.

Speaker 2 (57:06)
On the count of three, we are creating joy and integrity. One, two, three. We are creating joy.

Speaker 1 (57:16)
We

might end in a party and our lives in our lives

Speaker 2 (57:21)
Yay!

Speaker 1 (57:22)
So blessings to all of you, blessings to all of you. I will miss seeing you guys until, man, the next time in the new year. I might have to add in a call or two before, then who knows. We'll come to the boot camp, then we can hang out. Hang out at the Blood Sugar Boot Camp with me. That's December 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, so week after Thanksgiving. It'll be great. Okay, that's all I got for you guys. Thanks again, Carolyn. I really appreciate the work that you did. Thank you everybody for being here and being a loving, warm presence.

Bye bye.

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