252, Joe Pinchin and Ryan Harper!

Ryan Harper and Joe Pinchin as juniors,  were on the Young Guns team from Florida, where they shared much success.  Both are outstanding young men that are respectful, helpful, and courteous. However, when they are together, it is full on comedy hour!  Although they both held back a little bit in this episode, they were both fun to have on the show and to find out where they are at in their lives. Joe and Ryan were both guest of the show a few years back and a lot has changed for them, so it was great to catch up, and have a few laughs!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome back, everyone. Now, listen, this show has the potential to go off the rails quickly. Uh I have two very outstanding, respectful, amazing shooters, young shooters with me. They've both been on the show before. Uh, Mr. Ryan Harper was on episode 10, if you can believe that. So that's definitely been a hot minute. And then Joe Pinchkin. Now, like I said, together, these two are outstanding young men. Together, it is full-on comedy hour. So everybody laugh at the women and children, and we'll get started. What's up, fellas?

SPEAKER_05 0:33

What's going on, Jason? What's going on, Jason? Thank you for having us. We've been uh we've been trying to get this together for a long time for all of you listening, but Jason has been incredibly hard to get a hold of. Um and it's made putting this together really difficult. But we are glad to be on the show.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

So comedy hours starting. Yeah, it's okay. We'll just go ahead and officially state it now that having a member of the first family was easier to schedule than these two. So, but anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Busy lives, man, busy lives.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Yeah, I know it's all good. This is, you know, I want everybody to understand. I was standing at Jacklinks, and I won't repeat what was said, but these two going back and forth, my abs hurt so bad from laughing for like two days. I mean, my abs are killing me. These two are a riot, and it's like I gotta get you both on the O at the same time. So let me ask, I'll start with Ryan. Ryan, where did you two meet? Like, how did this this friendship start between the two of you?

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Uh so I got involved in Young Guns a little bit later than most people, I guess you could say. I think it was my junior end of junior year of high school. And the first time I think I ever actually met Pynchon was he had some shootoff at the Gator Cup. And I thought it was hilarious because in the shootoff, you know, back then, I mean, he was he was a little guy. I mean, not little in some some ways, but he was a little guy. And when he would go up to mount the gun in the shootoff, he had to throw his cheek up onto the butt of the gun. You know, he had to kind of get that I guess, I guess you could call it flub or whatever. He had to kind of get that up there, and I thought it was great. So to my recollection, that was the first time I met him, was after that shootoff, congratulating him, because I think I believe he won, but I really just wanted to meet him. So But we're on we're on Young Guns together, and that's what kind of started the whole good relationship and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

Gotcha. So, Joe, did you guys start shooting together like on a regular basis, or was that like you guys could hang out at the club together but couldn't shoot together? What's how was that?

SPEAKER_05 2:42

Yeah, I think uh as soon as Ryan had joined Young Guns, I had already been on the team for maybe two or three years. When he first joined, he had started hitting it pretty hard. And I think, you know, just being on the team, ending up in the same places a lot, you know, at the different shoots, whether that be SCTP or NSCA, I think we just started uh just started hanging out and we were all friends with the same people, some of which are a riot themselves. So it was it was always uh it was always a lot of serious shooting. We both took it very serious, but it was always uh a lot of fun as well.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Well, I you know, I mean, on a more serious note for just a second, you guys both can get it done with a shotgun. With when you guys were both on young guns, was there anything that you achieved as a team that you're proud of? I mean, do you guys want to brag a little bit though?

SPEAKER_05 3:36

I don't think Ryan and I mind bragging on the young guns at all. I think we're probably both very fortunate for that start. We had won the national championship when we were on the team together as a team, and then we had some individuals on the team winning various events too. And I think we still keep in touch, you know, with a lot of a lot of our teammates and and a lot are still shooting on the NSCA tour to this day. And the coaches are still involved, and we still keep up with our coaches and everything like that. But Young Guns was such a phenomenal team. Um, and I think it's something that we're both incredibly proud to be, to have been a part of.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Yeah, and the way Fred and Maria kind of you know ran the whole organization, and you know, a lot of it was for it was for the kids, was the main priority of everything. Yeah. And it gave a lot of kids, including ourselves, a great opportunity, especially getting to get introduced into the sporting clay world. I mean, we did have to shoot the you know, skeet and trap, which I mean that kind of sucked part, but but everything else, I mean like this podcast right now. I mean, it it generated friendships and got us into the sport a lot heavier, and here we are however long, however long it's been, and we're still in it pretty heavily. But you know, we want to give credit to them along with Mike Luongo, who is you know, he was the coach of Young Guns pretty much. And I mean he sounds like a nice guy and everything, but he likes to he likes to instigate a little bit with us. I think that's what kind of started me and Pension. We all kind of had the same humor and whatnot. And it just we so we it it was a good friendship and good bonding all around.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Gotcha. What okay, when was that? Refresh my memory, Ryan, when Mike left and went north when he left Okeechobee, when he left Quail Creek. Was that 20? Uh we won 20 or 21?

SPEAKER_01 5:36

We won nationals my senior year, which would have been 2017. Pinch, did he leave the next year or there or two years later?

SPEAKER_05 5:46

I think it was 2019. Because that's when I graduated high school. I think I think it was around then.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Yeah. Wow. Unbelievable. I'm talking to somebody that graduated in 2019.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

I was born in 2001, Jason.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Oh my gosh.

unknown 6:06

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Thanks for making me feel old, Joe. Thank you very much. Well, that's be all we have for Joe for tonight, man.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

One thing I do have to add to this podcast, though. You know, you mentioned Young Guns, so intention, you can correct me, but I'm pretty sure you're gonna gr agree with me on this. But I'm gonna take a jab at Zach and just say that I think that was the most successful youth shooting team probably in history with the amount of talent that was on that team.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

Really?

SPEAKER_05 6:42

I I think it's gotta be up there.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

It's definitely gotta be up there. Let me let me back up. Not the top, but let me let me say it was a top three. Okay, yeah, not like bragging on ourselves, but as a team itself.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

So when you say a shot at Zach, you're talking about Zach Garantis, who runs Forest City Gun Club, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:03

No, well, I mean, that can be a shot at him too, yeah, because we beat them. But uh Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Well, I I mean, well, the reason the reason why I say that is because Forest City has done such a great job here in recent years at SETP. Yeah, I mean that that that team is just killing it, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:19

They have a phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

I thought that's what you're I thought that's what you were referring to. Which Zach are you referring to? Pine Bomb. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

I we have like kind of an ongoing argument about that.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Okay. Well, he's kind of a historian in this sport, you know that? I mean, like he is pretty old, isn't it? He can tell you who well, I mean, he's just he's really good with stats. Have you noticed that? Like, he can rattle off who won the shootoff in 1998, you know, on make a break or something, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Yeah, well, he's he's showing his true true age, so I mean okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

You said that, not me.

SPEAKER_04 7:55

I'm gonna get text about this later. I know that, so it's all right.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

So, Joe, speaking of make a break, do you want to tell everybody how bad you got beat at Quell Creek?

SPEAKER_05 8:06

Listen, you know, I I try to I try to be as humble as I can at all times. I think it's just the proper route to take in life, but I I just want to make one thing very clear. The only reason I'm speaking about this right now is because Jason decided to bring it up. But now that he has brought it up, Jason was getting just a little, a little mouthy right before the make a break round. And he was he was he was talking a little smack. I'll say that. And I can tell you one thing, it did not result in him winning. I will say this though, he got very close, and on the last, I think he was he was winning all the way up until the last pair. And of course, Harper's there, so you know he's talking as he always does and on stuff, and he's rooting on Jason because Jason is about to smoke me. And I think I called a six, seven report pair or something like that, and ended up hitting the pair. And the only reason it was so satisfying was because Jason was gaming me the whole time. He was talking smack. I had Ryan behind me talking smack. I was getting ganged up on. So that's the only reason we're speaking about that right now.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

You know, that I mean, seriously, that's what makes this fun, right? I mean, like, you know, when you talk about sporting clothes, especially on this podcast, sometimes, you know, everybody talks about you know what to eat, you know, how to train and you know, focus and this and that and the other. And sometimes it's easy to get wrapped up in it. You guys know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

We're the wrong people to have to eat before before it breaks.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

But you know what I mean? Like, you can get really serious about the game, right? Yeah. And to be able to crack up and go shoot a make a break with some friends or something and have a good time, it it really didn't, it wouldn't have matter to me whether I did or didn't beat Joe. I mean, we were having fun, you know, and and that that really made that day because I had a terrible day shooting and you know, went over to the make a break, hunging out with you hanging out with you guys. Again, my abs hurt for two days, like you guys made me laugh so hard. And then to go up and have fun like that on a makeup. I mean, that's what that's the cool thing about this sport, you know. I mean, I don't think you see that in any other sport. When somebody has a bad day at golf, they usually throw their clubs in the pond and head to the house, you know. Um, I don't know. I I think that's what's cool, and that's why I really wanted to get both of you on here because it was hysterical. I mean, I hope you guys will bring some of that on this show. Just please try to keep it a little bit PG 13.

SPEAKER_05 10:40

And and no, just to touch on that, Jason, you're 100% right. I think, you know, when we're when we're out there competing, I think there's a lot on the line sometimes, and we we all have things that we want to accomplish, rightfully so. But ultimately, at the end of the day, the reason we are competing at it and taking it as seriously as we are is because we love it, right? So I think it's it's important to to find that balance and to be able to release from that competitive side just so that you can somewhat find a way to keep the join it while while still you know allowing yourself to to be in that mindset. Because if you don't take a break from that competitive mindset from time to time, it'll wear on you.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Yeah, no, absolutely. And some people agree on it, and some people are different. I mean, you know, some people while they're shooting, I mean, they gotta they've gotta get their mindset right. And you know, it they gotta get really serious even when they get done with the stand, go back to their buggy or whatnot. But I mean, I think me and pension are kind of a little bit different, at least me. I mean, if I'm up in the if I'm up in the stand, I can stop and turn around and crack a joke. I mean, if I don't if I take it way too serious, I mean I take it serious, don't get me wrong, but if I take it to a different level, I start doing bad, it'll get in my head a little bit, and then I'll just get mad at myself. So I've gotta, you know, I I think it's good just to be able to rag on one another and when you're in the when you're on the squad together, shooting a tournament, you know, before or after. I think it really just depends on the person. And if anybody shot with New York Pension, they kind of they understand how we are in a squad together.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Yeah. Well, I mean, like I said, uh, I mean, you we put a lot into this. I mean, when you're when you're wanting to perform and you're wanting to put up a good number, you know, especially going into a big event, like you know, worlds is right around the corner. I'm not sure when this will be released. It might be released during the worlds, but for that's a good tournament as an example, you know. I mean, you guys train for that and you prepare for it and you get there and you want to be you want to be as serious about it as you can, but I know what you guys are talking about. If I try to get wrapped up that tight, I dude, one missed target can just wreck my day, you know what I mean? And having fun is usually the way I perform better, seriously. Like when we're teasing each other and stuff like that, you know, coming out of the box or whatever. And I'm if I'm having fun, I'm usually that's gonna be my best result.

SPEAKER_04 13:13

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

I think um what's that?

SPEAKER_05 13:18

I was gonna say, I think I've only seen Ryan serious once in my life, like legitimately serious, and it was on the final day of the World English. What year was that, Ryan? That you you got silver 22, 23?

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Uh yeah, it was sometime around then.

SPEAKER_05 13:38

I remember walking past him on the green course, and he just never shuts up, right? So it's really quite a sight to see. I walk by him and he was just stone like stone pan, like just straight faced. And I was like, what is going on here? It made me very uncomfortable to see him in that light.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

That was yeah, I would I would agree. I mean, I you know, I I like having fun shooting. I mean, a lot of people know that, but once I got down to the end and I realized, you know, I'm I have a good chance of making the super final, and that's that's been my number one goal ever since my I think it was my first year shooting. The world English was at Northbrook, and I was able to watch the super final and all that kind of stuff. And that was my ever since watching that, my whole goal in the sport was just to make the super final. And I think once I finally realized at that world's a couple years ago that I actually had a chance, I actually bared down and tried to give it a my all just to try and accomplish that that goal.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

I mean, that's that's understandable, especially in an event like that, right? I mean, that's obviously gotta take it seriously, but let's let's face it, you guys know this. If you're shooting a monthly tournament, nobody's making the mortgage payment if you win, right? So you might as well have fun while you're at it, right? Well, lunch is free if you go to the right tournament. Yeah, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_05 15:06

I know if that's all he thinks about is lunch.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

You you two tease each other more about food than anybody I know.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Well, I mean, look at he brought it up.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

All right, so I don't know if I want to start with Ryan or Joe. I'm gonna start with Joe on this one. Give us a funny story about Ryan. Oh no, go ahead, throw him under the bus. I want to hear it.

SPEAKER_05 15:32

Oh my gosh, let's think for a sec. Oh, this one's pretty good. We were uh we were what's it called? I think I had a graduation party in 2019 at Quill Creek, invited a bunch of our teammates and stuff, bunch of friends, shooting friends, our coaches, whatever. And there was a DJ setup, and Biggie Smalls was playing, and a variety of like, you know, other you know, dance, party, music, whatever it was. And Ryan put on a glitter hula hoop and was like just dancing all around the place, like and by himself, and was completely content with dancing by himself, and and he's just waving around the the glitter hula hoop that was hanging around his waist, like right by the DJ booth. It was it was pretty bizarre. That one's pretty funny, and then there's a bunch of other ones that are just not really registering right now.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Rao Ryan, he got something on Joe. Can you top the can you top the glitter hula hoop?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

No, I mean I can't really, but I mean, the you know, that just doesn't that doesn't bring me to shame at all. I'm kind of proud of my dance moves sometimes. So I mean, whether I have rhythm or not, I think I have rhythm, so it works out for me in my mind. I know people like to watch, so that's that's at least the fun side, but um for pinch, uh you know, it's he doesn't do stuff like that, you know. He's not he's not that kind of person. So it I guess one memory that brings back to my mind is we were at SCTP Nationals, and it was me, Pynchon, Clayton Cutshaw, who all was there? I think Nick Blinker was there, I believe. There was there was a group of us, and there was a there was a little basketball court, and Pynchon decides that he is in the NBA and thinks that he can make every shot known to mankind. And you know, he's he's he's a cocky little guy. So Pynchon was it was it Peter that swatted you and I mean pretty much knocked you back to the face just about. Oh, it was Clayton? Oh, okay. Well that's even worse. But I mean it was just it was just the fact of watching Pension, and if anybody knows what Pension used to look like, you know, however long, I guess that was nine years ago now. If people knew what pension looked like, it was just a it was a sight to see to watch him play basketball. I mean just I'll just say that.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

All right, we'll we'll leave it at that one. So okay, what is for you guys, because you guys are obviously live far apart now, right? So what is a shoot that you guys look forward to getting together and shooting together or hanging out together the most?

SPEAKER_01 18:34

I mean, it's really just any shoot that we're both at together, I guess you could say.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

So I mean, because I've I've been I've been a little absent the past year and a half, two years. I mean, I had a little medical things going on. My eyesight kind of changed a little bit, my eye dominance did for a year, year and a half, and then I got married and had a little girl. And so it kind of took me out, but I'm getting back into the sport now. So, but to answer your question, I guess you could just say it's just about any tournament that we're both at.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Actually, you know what? Let me let me scratch all that. It's it's going to Arizona and and getting into casino with pinching. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Oh man, I can just imagine realistic. It's it's that one actually.

SPEAKER_05 19:26

I was gonna say, I think it's always nice returning home to shoot. So Quail Creek, any shoot there, the Jack Lynx is always a good one to go to. And I know Ryan sees them a lot more than I do, but it's just nice to catch up with all our all our old friends and and people that I shot a lot with when I was younger growing up, whether that be mentors, coaches, just former teammates, whatever it is, it's always nice to go back home and and see everybody for a few days. Because it feels like I know everybody there. So it's gotta be, it's gotta be Quill Creek. Any anytime I get to go back home, it's always a good one.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Ryan, you not to go backwards here for a second, but you said your eye dominance switched. How I've never heard of that. What what happened?

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Um it's kind of a it's a little bit of a long, long story, but I was at, let's see, what was that tournament? I was in Arizona and it was the regional or US Open, one or the other, and I had had a little bit of a pain in my gut and didn't really know quite what it was. And I cannot hit the broadside of a barn for the entire tournament, and I could not figure it out. And then I believe the last day on one of the last stations, I think that was the first year they did the super squad, I was squatted with Wilgus, and I could not hit a target that was ten yards in front of me, full full belly coming at you. And I missed it twice, and I had to put down the gun, and I, you know, I just had no recollection at all. And I was completely out of the tournament. So I asked Wilgus, I said, Do you like have any idea what I'm doing? I mean, I was just, you know, I was baffled. And he said that I was shooting like two feet left or whatever it was of the target. So I closed my left eye and I centered it. And I mean, like I said, it's kind of a long story, and I I struggled. I found out my eye dominance had pretty much gone straight center eye for a little while, about a year, and then it finally started coming back like slowly more over to my right eye than this last year. I ended up having my gallbladder taken out, but I was asking the doctor just kind of questions, and he was saying there were symptoms, multiple different symptoms that you can have for your eye dominance or for your gallbladder and whatnot. And I ran that scenario through him, and he said that. That you know, I could have had that back in the day, and it just kind of created some kind of little infection inside my body. And he explained to me that it can sometimes go to your head where I had a little infection in my sinus cavity with what he could say, and it pushed pressure on the bottom of my right eye, causing my dominance to change. Now, I am not a doctor, and I have no idea if that's even remotely close to what it could have been, but I'm pretty much back to normal now. The past few shoots I've noticed I've gone back to just about 100% right eye dominance. So I have no idea what caused it. I mean, I have thoughts, but it is what it is. I'm back to normal just about now and I'm totally happy with it.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

That's very interesting. I've never heard anything like that. I'm that's wow, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

That's yeah, I have no idea what what it could what could have caused it. I don't you know, I have no idea. It was just a just one of those things, just an anomaly a little bit. But we're all good and back now, so we're we're doing a little bit better. Lost the love of the game a little bit because it was almost almost embarrassing when you go to a shoot and nothing you can do about it. I mean, I you know, I I feel that will pain that those people who struggle with eye dominance and what they feel, and I kind of understand it a whole lot better now.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Yeah. Well, no, I mean, yeah, I can understand that. I mean, not only is it frustrat or not you said embarrassing, but it's gotta be frustrating, right? Because you know what you can do, and you couldn't, you know, just couldn't see it.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

It was, and that was, and you know, it was that was like one of the first tournaments that it was it was either the first or uh the second tournament after worlds after I had podium. So it was it just you know, it was it sucked.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Yeah, especially to flip switch like that so quick.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Wow, crazy. I I've told you privately but publicly, you know, congrats on both your wife and your child. That's awesome, man. Um that puts a whole new perspective on things, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 24:08

It sure does, it sure does, but wouldn't change it for anything.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Now the next issue we have is getting Joe to follow suit here.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

I think we got silence coming from Joe.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

So I think we've got a long time until that happens. We might have to wait.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

We have to wait a little.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Jason, I think he has found his true love, and it's like what is it, Jay? What is it, Pynchon? Is it like the number three on the McDonald's menu or the gods? Hello.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Oh my lord.

SPEAKER_03 24:49

Are you there, Pinch? I think we lost Pinch. Oh boy. Are you there, Joe? He's gotta complicate things, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_00 25:02

I heard his phone beep and then he said hello. He probably switched the line over or something.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

I don't know. He's gotta complicate everything.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Hey, can you guys hear me? Oh gosh, what did I miss? No, I didn't. Did you hear what I had said?

SPEAKER_04 25:21

No, but I mean it's probably not very important.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

We're talking about the love of your life, and he said, What is it, pants and number three on the McDonald's menu?

SPEAKER_05 25:35

Okay, all right. Of course, it goes out and checks out right when he starts to say something like that. Didn't even give me a chance to rebutton.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

I thought I'd found the love of his life. He just kind of paused. He just paused and it was it. I was like, I got it.

SPEAKER_05 25:53

No, I can assure you, you did not stun me.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Oh boy, here it comes. It's coming. Joe, Joe's building up steam. He's like a he's like a diesel, everyone. Just bear with us. He's he's getting rolling.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

No, we'll we'll simmer for a second.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Well, Ryan, now that you're back at it, are you doing any coaching at all? Or no?

SPEAKER_01 26:22

No, I haven't done any coaching at all. I mean, I haven't marketed or I mean, really anything like that at all. I haven't had a whole lot of time with I mean, my baby just turned, her name is Josie. She just turned six months old the other day. So, you know, that's been that's been a big part of my life, obviously. And just haven't really focused on coaching or anything like that. But going forward, I've kind of talked to Pinch about this a little bit. I think we talked about it at jackplanks and whatnot, but going forward, I'd like to get a little bit more involved now that you know everything's I've kind of gotten my confidence back a little bit in the game and everything's kind of situated outright and whatnot with my eyes. I'm a little more excited now about going through the season and gonna hit a bunch more tournaments. I mean, I think I only hit like two, maybe three tournaments last year, which is the least I've ever done since I started shooting. So moral of the story is I will be starting to do a little bit more of that here coming in the near future.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Okay. Joe, are you staying busy coaching?

SPEAKER_05 27:28

Yeah, for sure. Now that we're entering clay season a little bit more now, we're out of hunting season, so clays are always the focus throughout the year. But now that we're seeing our competitive shooters really get back into the full swing of things and and are shooting a little bit more, hitting the hitting the tournaments. Yeah, it's been it's been good. There's uh there's a lot going on, but it's always fun being able to do the lessons as much as I can. And it's been good. It's been good.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

Yeah. Well, you you know, you talked me into going last year in the Southeast Regional there seeing you guys. I'm glad you did, because that's a very pretty club. Very, very neat.

SPEAKER_05 28:04

Thank you. Yeah, we're we're glad that you can make it. I had a I had a blast, you know. I think we all had a blast hosting it. Harper still hasn't come and visit us. But, you know, Jason, we know you know who your real friends are. I'll say that much.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

I've been I have been to the club, and I I mean it's a it's a beautiful club, but since Pynchon took it over, I have not I have not been there. So he, I mean, I was supposed to go up there for the regional and whatnot, but that was around I'm pretty sure my baby was born like a few days later. So I'm kind of glad I missed that one, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Yeah, you'd have been in you'd have been in the doghouse.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

Yeah, that yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

So, Joe, speaking of that, you guys got any big shoots? I'm I'm sure if Casey sent us to him or sent them to us these score chase, we've already put them in Tourney Talk, but is there any big ones coming up you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_05 29:01

So we'll be hosting our Louisiana State May 21st to 24th. It'll be a it'll be a fun shoot. We're planning on adding a few things this year and switching it up, setting some new courses in some places that we haven't set often, which always is a fun challenge. But no, it'll it'll be good. We always try and and stay present with you know some of the hospitality things and make it an event along with the shoot, you know, and and be able to cater that to so that everybody can have a good time outside of the shooting. But yeah, just the state shoot this year and then and then planning hopefully a bunch of cool member events and things like that.

SPEAKER_04 29:39

So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

Cool. Ryan, what is your home club now? It's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Or do you really I don't really I mean I guess you could say Quill Creek is technically my home club. I mean, I don't really have a home club per se because I don't practice. So I don't know, it's hard for me to say what's my home club. I mean, I have Tampa Bay that's not far from me, and I have Quill Creek, and then uh actually a property that we used to own and sold, we sold to Hulk Sporting Clays, which is 10 minutes away from my house. But I haven't really practiced hardly at all in the past four years, I would say. So it's kind of hard for me to say if I will have a home club or not.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

He's never practiced, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

You get to blackjack often? He's never practiced you get to blackjack much, Ryan.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Yeah, I've been to blackjack. I haven't I've I shot there recently. Well, I guess not really. No, like I've been to blackjack, yes, quite a few times, but like I said, I rarely practice at all. So it's that's been ever since I think I practiced a lot my first year of shooting, and then after that it just kind of went downhill, and I realized I got better when I didn't practice. So that's just kind of stuck with me throughout my career.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

So do the two of you have like a rivalry when you go to these shoots? Obviously, like pro event or pro or for the whole thing, or I mean what what kind of gambling, what kind of smack talk goes on?

SPEAKER_05 31:21

So I'll be you can share with us. I'll be brutally honest, all right? Obviously, we're we're really good friends, but when I say but there's no one more annoying to lose to than Ryan. So even if it is out of spite, you gotta try and get him by like a bird or something. You know what I mean? Make it hurt just a little bit more because when he wins, he is really obnoxious about it.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Wait, Jason, did you hear him say try? Go ahead, go ahead, Ben. Oh yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Oh man. Well, well, at least at least you had a medical condition for a reason for a while, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:13

Yeah, right, yeah, exactly. Exactly. I let him off the hook for a little while, I guess you could say.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Okay. Oh well.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

No, I mean it's it's good. Don't don't let Pynchon just twist your mind around. He is he is the exact same. If if he wins, it it's it's pretty brutal. So I mean, don't let him try and squeeze his way into the innocent person or anything like that.

SPEAKER_05 32:36

I'm not sure I've ever said anything mean to you in my life. So for you to get on the air and and make these accusations is really quite hurtful.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

I have zero comment on this, folks.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

That loud crash you're gonna hear here in a minute, it's the lightning coming through Joe's roof. Um my god, are you kidding me? If I had a recorder on you two at Quail Creek that day, oh my goodness. I mean, it would not well, first of all, it would come with an explicit warning, but second of all, the amount of crap you two talked on each other. I I'm telling you, I was in I was in stitches.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

See, you're a witness. He's the he's the same. I don't know if you're I'm not gonna deny I did I did talk a little bit of trash, but I won't deny it. I'll be honest. I I did talk a little bit of trash to pinch, but it was it was all good, it was all good in return.

SPEAKER_05 33:32

The worst is while we're shooting the make a break.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

Well, that's that's the time that's the funnest time to poke, right? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

I think you know, I I've made a lot of jokes on here, and Sean and I had a little friendly rivalry going on for a long time on make a break, and but I think that's the one thing about that game is that's the time you can joke around the most, right? Because if you screw up, it's another 20 bucks and you try it again. So whereas the main yeah, you gotta wait 12 months for that to happen again.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Yeah, I mean, the way that you saw us on Make or Break, it's not it's not much different on the main event course if we're squatted together. Oh wow, we'll respect each other a little bit in the box. No, don't even try that. It's I mean, we'll respect each other while they're you know, well, one another's in the box or whatnot, but if Pynchon hits a pair really hard, which is not very often, he'll pause when he ejects his shell and just slowly turn his head around and try and find me to make sure that I saw it.

SPEAKER_05 34:42

I will say to credit Ryan, he's not lying on this. There was there was one instance. I don't know if you remember, Jason. There was there was a single, I don't remember what course it was, Ryan. What course had the single bird that belly target at the jack lengths?

SPEAKER_01 34:59

You're talking about the one that I missed twice?

SPEAKER_05 35:02

Yeah, that one. Jason, it was like a 70-yard belly target. Single battery. What do you say, Ryan? Oh, oh, that one.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

That one. Never mind. I'm thinking of a different single, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:15

See, he's always trying to be the center of attention, Jason. Gosh, is this what comes with this guy? Anyways, what I was saying before Ryan rudely interrupted me was that there was a massive belly target, like this crosser, and I shot it pretty quickly, and there was a piece probably at about 80 yards, and just you know, threw the gun at it and shot the piece and and and hit the piece pretty hard. And I looked back at Ryan and he didn't say anything, he just started laughing. So I will do that from time to time.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

I I don't recall, I don't recall him doing that, by the way. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

I was telling you, anybody listen to this? If you're having a bad day, just do what you can to get put on a squad with these two. I'm telling you, you will you you may not shoot very well because you'll be laughing so hard, but it'll be the most fun you've ever had in a sporting player.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Yeah, you'll be you'll be in good spirits, let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

Yeah, you'll be you'll definitely be in good spirits. And anybody's trying to take things seriously, make sure you're not squatted with these two. Because it's it's uh you know, it's like watching the Marx brothers jump out of a car. But I'm you two, I mean, I'm telling you, it's it's hilarious because not only of all the the jabs you make at each other, but you both can shoot phenomenal. And you know, it's like you're you're joking around and you're still shooting better than three-fourths of the people at the event, you know, and that's what kills me. It's like if you it makes me wonder what would happen if both of you took it serious. Well, Ryan's already admitted he would shoot worse. So what about you, Joe? If you took it serious, would you be worse off?

SPEAKER_05 36:58

I want to make it very clear. I do I do take it incredibly serious. Uh and and most of the time I'm pretty, I'm pretty even keeled, and I don't I don't talk as much as I'm with Harper. Like if we shoot together, I'm a little bit more more talkative, and that's just that's just how we've been, you know, if we've ever shot together. But that's not like typical for me, you know. I try to I try to take it really serious. I'm always I'm always down to have a good time on the course, and I think there's finding that balance, like we talked about, you know, a matter of like having fun, but still being really competitive. Ryan's just incredibly annoying, so it makes you want to like say back or or jab back because he'll keep poking if you don't. So that's what brings that out of me. It's not natural for me to be like that on the court.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

It's just I call it when I'm shooting with pinch. I you you poke the bear, you know, that's all you gotta do. But I mean, you know, like I said before, it depends on the person. Like, I'm people aren't gonna think that I take the it serious at all by how I act, or you know, I I don't have to talk about shooting well until I get up into the stand. I mean, I like joking around until as soon as I close my gun and I put it on my shoulder. I mean, I don't have anything in my head, you know, there's not really a brain there, so I just kind of go flat. I mean, I go dumb. So, you know, I can block everything out for a solid, I don't know, however long it takes me to shoot, four seconds or whatever. Nothing goes through my head. Now, when I eject the shell, it's a little different story. But when I'm putting the gun up on my shoulder, I can block everything out really quickly. And that's just I mean, that's just how I shoot. That's all I kind of always have shot. So, like I said, there's not much up there to go on. There's not much thinking that I have to do.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Okay. Yeah, so just so we're clear, there's nothing in his head and nothing can get through it.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Yep, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

I knew that I knew that was coming right as you said it, Ryan.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

I knew he was like, that's why I was trying to say, go ahead, Pinchon. I led you up in the bottom.

SPEAKER_05 39:04

Hey, James. So sorry. I was just gonna ask if you could ask Ryan to spell Houston.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Oh gosh, here we go. Don't even, don't even.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Uh a little bit of academics problem there, Ryan. What's going on? Ryan, I'll let you know. I did get an academic scholarship. I mean, what's that, Ryan?

SPEAKER_01 39:31

I I did get an academic scholarship to Lindenwood. Okay. Well, what happened with Spelling Houston? It's not it's not saying a whole lot doing that, but no, there's we had a buddy that he used to run a gun club. His name is Zach Fuser. He ran, was it Ancient Oak? Was that what is what it's called? Pension? Yeah. Yep. So he he ran a smaller gun club called Ancient Oak and down here in Florida. And he's a country boy, and Luongo is with me and Pynchon, and I think we're all, I don't know where we were, but I I guess Mike had said that I don't know how it all came up, but I was told to spell something wrong. And it oh, it was Missouri. I was told to spell Missouri wrong. And ever since then, it's just I can't spell words apparently. So Luongo kind of he trapped me into that one. That was that's now become an ongoing joke.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Okay, gotcha. Way to go, Joe. Throw him under the bus.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

No, no, no, words are already.

SPEAKER_05 40:41

I can spell good, Ryan.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Oh my gosh. Okay, well, listen, uh, Ryan, I know you're not you're not currently coaching or anything. Joe, for you though, since you came through a youth shooting program, I'm sure when you have a youth shooter come to you, you kind of get a little reminiscent, right?

SPEAKER_05 41:02

No doubt, and that's the whole fun in this game. I think, you know, like I think Ryan will agree with this. We had so many people that played a part in helping us when we were younger, right? Whether that's teaching us, giving us advice, putting the program together, there are so many good influences, right? And now that I am in the industry and I've been in it for a little while, that's one of my main goals, right? Is to kind of is to kind of give that back in any way that I can. Because I had such good times doing it, and this sport has given me so much. So anytime you know, there's younger kids getting involved and getting ready to shoot, that's kind of my way of passing some of that back and and giving back in in that way. And and it's always fun teaching them and and introducing them to a sport that gave me so much. So that is probably one of my favorite lessons to do is like a a first-time lesson and watching that kid, you know, break their first target. There's nothing like it. There is nothing like it.

SPEAKER_00 42:05

Yeah. Yeah, I've just kind of helping here and there. I've helped a couple of youth shooters, and I'm definitely not a coach, but I know enough that a first-time shooter I can help them out a little bit. And the the joy you get from seeing them connect with a target and break it is really cool, right? Like, and their face lights up, they're all excited, and now they want to do it more, right? So that's that's part of the joy I see in it. And I I thought for sure with you coming through a youth shooting program, you know, you'd be kind of like, wow, this is reminiscent of what I went through, right?

SPEAKER_05 42:41

Yeah, and and it, you know, it's funny because you don't you don't see it as it happens in front of you when you're younger, but like you may have had just one really good experience or one really good lesson, you know, when you first started, and that that led me to where I am today, you know, still involved in the sport and stuff like that. So even if it might not seem like that, if you can reciprocate that and allow someone to have that great experience or give someone that great lesson that hopefully, you know, fuels them to stay in the sport and to stay pursuing it, then then that that's pretty incredible, right? And and you might not look at it as a big deal, but they sure do. And I know Ryan and I did when when we were younger.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

Well, see, this is where I know the microphone's intimidating both of you because if it wasn't for the microphone right now, Ryan would be like, Oh, yeah, great, you ruined another one. I mean, I could just hear the comments coming.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

So he's a he's he talks really political, doesn't he? When he's on this podcast. I can't just mean it.

SPEAKER_05 43:46

I can't say something nice and mean it.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

I I'm I'm just a host. I'm asking questions.

SPEAKER_01 43:58

Pleading the fifth.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

So listen, I want to do something fun here. You know how we do rapid fire with new shooters, and we did that with you guys when you were on before. But it's been a hot minute, and I'm sure you guys have changed equipment a little bit. I want to do something fun here. We're gonna start with Joe, but Ryan's gonna answer the questions. All right. So we're gonna see how well each one knows each other.

SPEAKER_01 44:21

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

And I'm thinking there's gonna be some really funny answers to some of this stuff. All right, Ryan. So we're gonna start with Joe's gun. What's the making model?

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Joe shoots a Kriegoff parkour.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Okay, 32-inch barrels.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

32-inch barrels with uh briley thinwall chokes.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Briley thinwall chokes. What's his go-to constriction? Mods. Mods. And stock? Is it is it a factory stock or a custom stock?

SPEAKER_01 44:53

Custom stock.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

Okay. Joe, now you all you gotta do is say wrong if you said something wrong, okay? Yep. Alright, what ammo does he shoot? What brand and what recipe?

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Uh he shoots the mocks. I believe it's uh 1250. Seven and a half, correct.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

Seven and a half, okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Correct. Vest or shell bag. Vest. Okay. And eye protection. Heeless. Ear protection. Custom molds. Custom molds. Wrongs.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Well, you got him on one. What's the correct answer, Joe?

SPEAKER_05 45:42

Whatever little foamies I get from the range that I'm shooting at.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Didn't now didn't listen, stop right there. Didn't I introduce you to Dr. Grace? I thought we were going to take care of all this.

SPEAKER_05 45:54

We are. We are. It's in the making. I haven't I haven't uh been to the shooting scene here, but I do plan on I do plan on getting some new molds sometime soon. I've just had three pairs and I've lost all of them. I'm terrible with earplugs.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Well, here's nah, I I better not throw I'm not gonna throw that out there. I'm not gonna tell everybody what she found, but I will say that that is a shameless plug. Dr. Grace from OdoPro did did help him out last year at the was it it was at the US Open, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_05 46:24

Yeah, and and I learned a lot, by the way, even though I didn't get plugs at the time, very knowledgeable and and learned a bunch just about the ears and protecting your hearing in general.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Yeah. Okay, now this is where it's gonna go really off the rails. Ryan, I'm looking for what the the question is, what's in your bag? And we're looking for like a lucky rabbit's foot, something odd that Joe carries in his bag that we may not be privy to.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

You know, that's a hard one. I mean, I'd say he always has some kind of snack.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Okay. Is that right or wrong, Joe? Am I wrong?

SPEAKER_04 47:06

That's wrong, Ryan. That is that's a lie.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

So what's the correct answer?

SPEAKER_05 47:13

I usually, and I know he's gonna he's gonna say that I'm lying. It's just electrolyte packets is really it.

SPEAKER_03 47:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 47:23

Bull crap.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

That is bull crap.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

Oh, I really thought that was gonna go a lot more sideways than it did, but okay, Joe, now's your turn. You gotta answer Ryan's questions. Okay, no. What gun does he shoot? Make and model.

SPEAKER_05 47:40

He shoots a DT11 32 inch.

SPEAKER_03 47:47

Ported? Oh no. Is he right so far, Ryan? So far, I'll give him that. Okay, what chokes is he shooting? Cole chokes. Go-to constriction? Light mods or mods. I think he switches. That's a lie.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

What'd you get him with? What's your what's the correct answer?

SPEAKER_01 48:19

Shoot mods all the time, never change. Unless I have a two-yard rabbit. So it comes out.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Straight shooter. Okay. Alright, Joe, what what shell does he shoot? Brandon recipe.

SPEAKER_05 48:33

He'll either shoot 1300 one ounce F2 mock or Winchester double A one ounce twelve ninety seven and a half or eight.

SPEAKER_03 48:49

Okay. He's not stopping you, so we're gonna keep rolling. Master Shellag. Glasses? Healers. Ear protection. Custom mold. I think.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Okay, what's what's the wrong answer? Any foamies that I can find at a tournament. No, that's a lie.

SPEAKER_00 49:19

Okay, we gotta get you to Odo.

SPEAKER_04 49:21

That is 100% the truth.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

I can I can hear all fair discussions happening. Alright, we're close. Alright, we gotta get you to Oto Pro too. Alright. We're close.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

I mean, Joe had an opportunity just thrown in his face and he, you know, he just didn't do it. Oh. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

Oh. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Alright, Joe. Here's the here's the big one, Joe. What's in your bag? What what what does Ryan keep in his bag that we wouldn't be privy to?

SPEAKER_03 50:01

I need to download the Jeopardy music.

SPEAKER_05 50:09

I'm trying to focus.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

Like he he we walked right into that one.

SPEAKER_05 50:21

Alright. Uh I don't know. It's it's just easy, right? It's alright.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

There's not a lot of people listening to this.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

It's not like the world is listening to this. It's just easy to think that he'd have snacks in his bag, right?

SPEAKER_04 50:35

So I'm gonna go snacks.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

Is he right, Ryan?

SPEAKER_01 50:42

I'd say like 50% of the time, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 50:46

50% of the time, 100%. I'll give him like a half a point. I'll I'll give him a half of a point.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

See, this is where you both blew it. Because I would have if that was if I was doing that for Sean, I'd have thrown him right under the bus. Like, what gun do you shoot? Uh Winchester Model 97. Ammo, whatever he can steal out of somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Let's not do that.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

Right. Oh my gosh. Well, listen, everyone, we tell we tell everyone every show, every week, take someone new shooting, take them to a tournament. Here's another example why. Look at the fun you can have shooting this game. Uh, look at the friendship these two have made with each other. How they haven't killed each other yet, I don't know, but it's it's comical. We'll get there someday. But in the meantime, we all get a good laugh out of it. But no, seriously, take someone new shooting. Take if they're a recreational shooter, take them to a tournament. Maybe follow this, these two guys around on their squad. You get a good uh good comedic value out of it. But and also I want to say thank you to Midway USA. They they greatly support youth shooting. You know, get over to Midway USA Foundation.com or I'm sorry, dot org. Their link is down in the show description, and you can find out ways that you can help support youth shooting teams like the one that both Joe and Ryan were on. Thank you to Kohler, Arms, Fyoki USA, Ranger. I mean, I'm telling you what, you guys both got big heads. You need to check out these new Ranger hyper shots, man. They're awesome. Atlas Traps, American-made Atlas Traps, Rhino Chokes, that's what should be in both of your guns. Gun and Trophy Insurance. Now, that's something right there, guys. If you guys don't have gun and trophy insurance, you really need to give Cole Kushman a call. Both the rates and their coverage are outstanding. You guys both need to check them out if you don't already have gun and trophy insurance. Score chaser, I know both you, both you loons, both use score chaser on a regular basis. Long range, thank you very much to Mr. Neil Chadwick. Odo Pro Technologies, we talked about that tonight. Get over and see Dr. Grace. Both of you and Jim to get over there and see her. Bear pelt, both of you shoot bear, both of you shoot bear pelt first, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 53:02

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Are you both on the team?

SPEAKER_01 53:06

Yes, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 53:07

On the bear pelt? Okay, I thought so. Love some bear pelt vest. You guys need to see this new bear pelt vest I got coming out. It's an it's an El Jefe vest.

SPEAKER_05 53:14

Oh, that's Jefe.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

Thank you to El Jefe Energy. Yes, I'm telling you, man. They're gonna be. You guys think I'm nuts, okay? But they're gonna be as big as monster. Give them a year. Seriously. Awesome. It's it's the stuff's good stuff. It's full of vitamins, not loaded with caffeine like the rest of them are, and it's doesn't have all the crap in it, no sugar added.

SPEAKER_05 53:35

It's gonna have to give us a sample.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

And of course, slick products. Yes, I will do that next time I run into you two. Yes, for sure I will. What? What'd you do?

SPEAKER_05 53:46

Ignore him, Jason. Nothing go ahead, nothing productive ever comes out of his mouth. It's all nonsense.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

Oh boy, here we go. It's it's time to show up if the guns are coming out. Also, thank you to our technology partner, JTEC. Can't wait for everyone to see the new website here. Should be out in another month or so. A lot of cool, cool new features for everybody to check out on that. And of course, lastly, Slick products. You know, if you hate washing your buggy, but you you know, as much as I do, but you like it to look good, check out Slickproducts.com slash deadpair, save 10% off your order. And Taconic Distilleries. Now, if you really want to see something funny, you get a bourbon in each one of these two guys I got on the phone with me. And I'm telling you what, now that then then you have to lock up the women and children. But when the tournament's over, it's time for one last shot with Taconic Distilleries, which I'm getting ready to do. So I'm gonna let you two off the line. Joe, Ryan, thank you both very much, man. I appreciate this. I know this was kind of a silly podcast, nobody really learned a lot, but it was still fun to have both of you on. Thank you, Jason.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

I appreciate having us on and doing all this.

SPEAKER_05 54:53

No doubt. I just would like to say one more thing if you don't mind, Jason. Ryan and I have been trying to have a conversation with you for very long, and you've been, you know, we know you're a busy guy, you have a lot going on, and you've been dodging us, but and I think Ryan will speak to that a little bit too. But but thank you for having us on and and finally making the time. It's been a long time coming. Not because we didn't want to, because you didn't.

SPEAKER_00 55:16

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Are you hearing this, Ryan? Now the jabs are coming at me.

SPEAKER_01 55:23

Yeah, well, you just get used to it.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

Okay. All right. I thought you'd have my back a little bit more than that, Ryan.

SPEAKER_01 55:30

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

Oh wow, I'm getting it from both angles now. Which one of you, which one of you two clowns canceled on me because you had a client, quote unquote, flying at the last minute?

SPEAKER_01 55:41

It might have been me.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. All right. How many weeks have I been trying to do this? Let's see. Jacklyn's was in February. We're in April. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

Well, listen, wait, wait, how many weeks is that? I do, I want to do a little math.

SPEAKER_00 55:57

A lot. I don't know. All right. It's one, two, three, four, eleven.

SPEAKER_05 56:06

I said make Ryan do the math. It'll be a lot funnier.

SPEAKER_00 56:12

There's only 52 weeks in a year, Ryan. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

Anyway, I have no comment on any of this.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

All right, everyone. Thank you so much. And until next week, we can't wait to catch y'all back here on the Dead Pear podcast.