The Big and Small Podcast
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The Big and Small Podcast
#117 Inside out, Inside and Kitty Litter
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What if the phrase "living from the inside out" has been completely misunderstood — and that misunderstanding is quietly keeping us stuck?
In this episode of The Big and Small Podcast, Jason and Marit unpack one of the most overused phrases in personal development: "living from the inside out." But instead of the typical surface-level take, they go deep into what it actually means to live authentically — and why so many of us confuse self-expression with self-awareness. Through hilarious stories (including a disastrous gourmet dinner and a very opinionated cat metaphor), they reveal the crucial difference between unconscious projection and conscious self-creation.
What We Explore:
- 00:00 — What "be the perfect you" actually means (and why it confused Jason as a kid)
- 03:26 — The $800 dinner that explains why perfection is always personal
- 05:44 — The biggest mistake people make about inside-out living
- 07:07 — When authentic enjoyment clashes with outside opinions
- 08:05 — Outside-in living: how brands and status symbols hijack identity
- 10:34 — Why having a mission and purpose cuts through the noise
- 12:39 — The layers of self — beyond feelings, thoughts, and worldview
- 14:48 — The fair-trade t-shirt story: why one mistake doesn't define us
- 17:06 — How the outside world quietly reshapes how we see ourselves
- 18:02 — IKEA, doom scrolling, and the 6,000 daily distractions pulling us away
- 22:31 — Virtue signaling vs. real inner work — and why the difference matters
- 25:34 — The kitty litter test: owning who we are without making society adapt
- 27:17 — Eudaimonia: Aristotle's secret to total happiness (and flow states)
- 29:06 — Why this work never ends — and why that's actually the best part
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