When Betti Jo Weber of Sweet Mother of Pie first wrapped her hands around an apple peeler, she didn't realize she was setting off on a voyage that would transform her from a country girl into a pie-making maven in Hood, Texas.
Our heartwarming chat uncovers the layers of this journey as she recounts how 600 pounds of Granny Smith apples and her mother's pie crust recipe became the foundation of a business that's about more than just delicious pies—it's about change, legacy, and the unexpected turns that sweeten our lives. Betti Jo's narrative is a reminder that embracing the 'yes' in life can be the critical ingredient to discovering one's true calling.
The oven heats up as we whisk you away to the bustling Betti Jo's Junction, where what started as a quaint garage sale desire unfolded into a vibrant marketplace that buzzes with over 500 visitors. In the tales of Betti Jo's encounters, like that with an octogenarian with a zest for life, we see the profound power of pies to connect us. The episode rises as we sift through the secrets of creating a space that's more than just commerce—it's the heart of a community, brimming with stories, laughter, and the shared satisfaction of a slice of pie.
In our final taste of this episode, we savor the essence of pie at the Pie House—a place where regional recipes spark memories and trust forms the crust of the community. Discover the power of pies, not just as a dessert, but as a vehicle for dreams, a binder of families, and a reminder that the simplest pleasures like a trust-based pie stand can become the cornerstone of a fulfilling, limitless life.
Join us as we serve up a slice of Betti Jo's world, where every pie has a story, and every bite is a step towards home.
When Betti Jo Weber of Sweet Mother of Pie first wrapped her hands around an apple peeler, she didn't realize she was setting off on a voyage that would transform her from a country girl into a pie-making maven in Hood, Texas.
Our heartwarming chat uncovers the layers of this journey as she recounts how 600 pounds of Granny Smith apples and her mother's pie crust recipe became the foundation of a business that's about more than just delicious pies—it's about change, legacy, and the unexpected turns that sweeten our lives. Betti Jo's narrative is a reminder that embracing the 'yes' in life can be the critical ingredient to discovering one's true calling.
The oven heats up as we whisk you away to the bustling Betti Jo's Junction, where what started as a quaint garage sale desire unfolded into a vibrant marketplace that buzzes with over 500 visitors. In the tales of Betti Jo's encounters, like that with an octogenarian with a zest for life, we see the profound power of pies to connect us. The episode rises as we sift through the secrets of creating a space that's more than just commerce—it's the heart of a community, brimming with stories, laughter, and the shared satisfaction of a slice of pie.
In our final taste of this episode, we savor the essence of pie at the Pie House—a place where regional recipes spark memories and trust forms the crust of the community. Discover the power of pies, not just as a dessert, but as a vehicle for dreams, a binder of families, and a reminder that the simplest pleasures like a trust-based pie stand can become the cornerstone of a fulfilling, limitless life.
Join us as we serve up a slice of Betti Jo's world, where every pie has a story, and every bite is a step towards home.
Welcome to the Mind Body Project Podcast. After over a decade in the health and wellness industry, Erin realized that our bodies change only short-term unless our mindset changes. For long-term success, Both our mind and body are forever linked. We are continually building up new ideas and tearing down old ones in our construction zone we call our mind. After this podcast is over, make sure you give it a like and a share and please subscribe and review this podcast. I would now like to introduce you to your host, the man connecting your mind and body to create a limitless life, Erin Zegler.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to the Mind Body Project. Thanks for joining me today. Please welcome my guest today. 600 pounds of Granny Smith apples mother's secret pie crust recipe An encouraging family is how sweet mother of pies started. She is the owner and best pie maker in Hood, texas. Please welcome my guest today, ms Betty Jo Weber. Thank, you.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Betty.
Speaker 2:Thank you, erin. So we're out here in Hood Texas. Most people probably don't know where Hood Texas is, because I didn't even know we were in Hood Texas and I'm 45 minutes down the road. Right. So I wanted to kind of start. We're going to get to all the pie making all that good stuff but this is the Mind Body Project.
Speaker 2:It's about reconstructing and constructing new thoughts. And so you and I, judy we have a mutual friend, judy, and she trains with me and we're friends and she had told me about, probably a year ago, about Betty Jo and her pies. I said, well, that's great, that sounds really good. And just the first of the year, judy had an event Plant your Dreams, grow your Vision. And you were there and you needed help with your word. And so I came over. We were talking about your word. Then I realized this is the pie laid, this is her. And so we got to talking and I said I want you to be on my podcast because I think it will be great. And so and this is really the first time we've sat down together we talked a little bit at the event, but this is the first time we've really had some conversation.
Speaker 2:And so I pull up out here to the pie house. We're sitting in the pie house, which is just, it's a house, but also it's on a property that's just beautiful. You have a chandelier shed and a little trailer. It's just a neat, neat space. So I come out here and it's just so peaceful and nice it is. We're doing this in in February. We have the front door open, the screen door, the weather's perfect. Yes, we're lucky, yes, and so that's just how things work sometimes when we put ourselves out there. I said yes to Judy that I'd do her event. You said yes, you'd come, Struggling with the word, and we got connected. And then and then here we are talking about, about Sweet Mother of Pie, and we're going to talk about how it started, and but you know, this hasn't always been your place. I mean, it hasn't kind of tell us the history of the space we're in the pie house.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, Well, we moved out here in Hood, which is it does exist. Obviously, you're here, but it's not on all the maps, so people don't, don't really know anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because my GPS didn't even say Hood Texas.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, the address says Gainesville. Yeah, and it's not on all the maps, but it was a booming town back before me before we got here. We moved out to Hood in 94 and our oldest was about to start kindergarten and I needed out in the back to the country was where I was raised, and so we, like I said, our house is the old Hood grocery store and it's pretty quirky but it's fun. This is an old farmhouse next to ours which we had precious neighbors that lived here and we just visited all the time with them. We ended up doing a living estate and then I'll, just after they had both passed away, I come over and had a little bit of cleaning to do and working through, so I had no idea, but I had mentioned to my kids I have four kids and I had mentioned to them I'm going to, maybe I'll do a bed and breakfast, which they thought I was crazy that nobody's going to come to Hood. You only really get lost. That's how you get out here.
Speaker 3:And I said, well, whatever I do, that I wanted my mother's name in it. She was amazing. She has passed away, but she gave me my love of baking, which that was not in the picture right then, but she just amazing. So I wanted her name in it, thinking mother daughter, jodi's daughter, something. But this was way before I thought about it. And then you mentioned the apples. So once I figured out I could make a pie or two out of 600 pounds of apples.
Speaker 2:So where'd you get 600 pounds of?
Speaker 3:apples that we had Granny Smith apple trees out on our land and picked them and thought I need a pie crust recipe. So I called my mother before she had passed away and got that and rolled out a few pies maybe 111 pies out of that and then made pie filling, quarts of pie filling, but I just would give them away or whatever they need, wherever they need to go, not thinking much of that. And then that later evolved into me baking for holidays, for people. But by this time I'm at the school, at the little school close to us where the kids went to school.
Speaker 2:It's still working there.
Speaker 3:Yes, I was doing life skills and anyway, after eight years of that, went on and got out of the school and not really knowing, kind of just minding my own business. And then my kids were encouraging me. Why don't you do something with pies, Do? Something with pies. I said what will I do Any different than what I do now? And then my daughter came up with Sweet Mother of Pies. So my mother is the sweet mother.
Speaker 2:The sweet mother.
Speaker 3:I'm the sweet mother, yeah, and that was January of 2016. And here we are doing a podcast and I can't believe it. But yeah, so there's a lot of in-between, so you just ask me whatever.
Speaker 2:So your daughter comes up with the name yes, and then your son says, hey, mom, we need a Facebook page.
Speaker 3:Right, they put it on Facebook and people are liking it and like the page and I thought, well, that's fun. And then I didn't get a pie order right away. So I said, oh, this is like you know, you make seventh grade cheerleader but still don't have a boyfriend. I've got to sell some pies here if we're going to do anything. And then word of mouth, just it went. The kids, they live in Waco, my daughter and her husband and I delivered several, like 52 pies down there and then, like I say, word of mouth, it is just taken off. I can't even. I can't explain it, except it's very easy to explain. I have thoughts in my head and dreams and think of things all the time and then God says I'll trump that, I can do even better. And whatever I think he has made, he has made it bigger because so when sweet mother pie started, did you start doing it out here?
Speaker 2:Was this already finished? The space we're in the pie house, the pie house.
Speaker 3:Yes, it still needed a lot of work. I was still kind of fixing up, but yet I wanted people to come here and pick up their pies. But it's a distance for anybody. So I have connections in Dallas and Fort Worth area so I would take off in the morning. Well, I'd call a friend and I said, hey, I'm going to come to Dallas, you need pies. And then, if they agreed, I just kind of went down all my little connections through and there sometimes I'd be gone eight hours Just deliver pies, I'd be more full of pies and I wouldn't come home till they were all gone, and that gets old after a while.
Speaker 3:So then just went back here waiting for not waiting, but trying to figure out the niche of getting people out here. Plus, this is special to me. I love the pie house and I knew once people did come, just like you say, the peacefulness of it. It would slow people down. There's a good front porch and there's a good you know. It kind of takes. The people that did stop by would say, oh my gosh, this reminds me of my grandma's house and the pies are just a little added kick.
Speaker 2:I mean because I live in the country, so I can imagine people that come from the city. I live in the country and I mentioned to you. I text my wife right away and said this is the most peaceful place. It's just so peaceful and it's quiet and it's just like it's just a different feeling.
Speaker 3:It is amazing, I'm blessed I'm blessed by all of it you know that it all came together. It's still coming together. I mean every yeah, it's always always something new.
Speaker 2:So when you start selling the pies where you're like, wow, people are really buying these and they're buying a lot of them, and were you surprised?
Speaker 3:I don't know if it surprised me more, if it surprised my kids more.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they, but the kids, ever have a pie, or you eat the pie and go. Man, I can really sell this. It's that good.
Speaker 3:They did. And you know I'm going to just say, erin, it's my mother's pie crust, the pie crust recipe. To me that is the just in anything. Live for anything. That's the foundation. That is the basic of what makes a good pie. But I use. I'm not fancy, they're my grandma's recipes, but they're tried and true. They're not all.
Speaker 3:They do have fun with some, but I know what not to mess up what's already been, what works and you know. And so are they the fanciest or all that, but maybe not, but they're good and I this is not bragging or anything, but I do Well, I love making them, I love baking, I love the whole process. On Sundays I might be my day to make dough, so I'll make all my dough and then, if I'm still feeling it, I'll roll out my pie crust and put it in my pans and then freeze it, and then maybe Monday comes along and that's apple and I'll spend several hours doing apple pies and one day it'll be chicken pot pies and one day you know just whatever is up, and then I try to always have crust. So if I get a last minute order or someone needs something, I can, I can make it.
Speaker 3:My cream pies I do to order so that you know they stay fresh. But I do taken bake. So I have my fruit pies, my pot pies, people, and that is really taken off. But people will come and get them and some by several at a time, keep them in their freezer and then they can bake them when they want. I put directions in there.
Speaker 3:So you don't have to feel like if you've got a oh gosh, I've got to need eat a full pie right now.
Speaker 2:No, Save it for when you have company or whatever. Yeah, so how many pies do you make a week?
Speaker 3:People ask me that and that. Course that varies.
Speaker 2:I'm sure the holidays, it's the holidays Crazy.
Speaker 3:I don't, yeah, I don't really I can't talk, but well, I can. I'll probably 25, 30, maybe 50 a week back there. I don't know if you noticed it in the freezer. I try to keep that stocked Again with pot pies and with the different fruit pies pecan walnut.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm Ready for those to take and bake if they want to Take, and bake, or I can just pull them out and then it's nice for people that have them if they take them and put them in. Someone is getting married, or you've got a shower to go to, or you know someone moves into a house. It's just a pie is a good thing. Yes, it fixes everything.
Speaker 2:I have a silence as that Pie fixes everything. And we were talking and you had a lady come out and visit with you and put an article in the magazine for you. Yes, in 2018?
Speaker 3:2018. It was February. It was not a day like this. We were freezing, all the heaters were on, but she did and I'm just like talking to you. I'm thinking, oh, come on. You know, I couldn't believe that she'd want to talk to me and all the people that I graduated high school with do not believe she would want to, but that turned in. Well, it was unbelievable, that well that it reached so many people that I had no idea.
Speaker 3:And then, but what came from that? It kept me busy and also the different people that I met, because before that it was pretty much local, but I was meeting and, like I said, austin, I had Arlington and this couple. They have traveled everywhere and she will tag me like being Alaska on a cruise and there be dessert. She said, well, it's not a sweet mother pie. I just like I can't believe it. And she ran across the magazine in a Dairy Queen and so those things. But then it's just all the stories that come from that. Obviously, I've never had trouble talking or visiting and I shared that with you earlier. The pies I'm so thankful for that. I'm thankful for knowing how to bake and loving it. But the people that come in here it's amazing who I've gotten to meet. I'm I preach myself and I'm not trying to be cliche or anything. It is amazing how lucky I've been.
Speaker 2:Because of a pie.
Speaker 3:Because of a pie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it attracts people and because of a pie, you have a space in hood. That is just unbelievable and, as we talked about, it's a space that has grown.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:You know, your concept has grown, your vision has grown, your dream has grown and as we walked around outside before we started, there's still a lot to be done and a lot of space to grow.
Speaker 3:Yes, well, and with that I don't know if you you rain me in, if you need to, um March of 22. Again, well, that's a few weeks before that February, I had again told my kids I've got to have a garage show and I'm going to click Now.
Speaker 3:I'm Betty Joe and I don't know if you're old enough to know this show, but anyway, petticoat Junction was a show on TV and there was Betty Joe in there, so I thought I'm going to call this garage, I'm just going to call it the junction, betty Joe's junction. Well, anyway, my son-in-law he thinks I never need to sleep and he says, oh, I bet you could get he's walking around with me out here. And he said I bet you get 10 vendors. I said, what am I going to do with 10 vendors? You know people have to shop.
Speaker 3:I mean I can't just stare at them and can't just feed them pie. But I'll fast forward in. In what did we do this in five weeks? I had 18 vendors, I had live music In your first time. This was my first time I ended up with 18 vendors.
Speaker 2:This because you wanted a garage sale.
Speaker 3:I wanted a garage sale. I ended up not selling a thing. Well, I sold plenty of pies.
Speaker 2:So you had vendors come that were Vendors came set up. Selling things and.
Speaker 3:They were selling, I had live music, I had a pizza truck, two porta-potties and couldn't believe that anyway. And so it was like it started 10, 10 to four and there was not anyone, no one at the road right. Well, I had gone back, I had gone to grab a tablecloth for one of the vendors, and I looked down and there was a line of cars. Anyway, I'm not gonna cry, but it was amazing and I thought-.
Speaker 2:Like on the field of greens.
Speaker 3:At the end I was gonna say if only Kevin Costner had been here, but I did believe it and I did see. I saw this. I'm not trying to get weird, but you know you get into that word manifest. Yes, it works. And that goes. Along with praying too and everything I'm not trying to take away from. But you know I could, and we'll talk about the silo in a minute, but I saw that silo.
Speaker 2:And I believe that that manifestation is another word for imagination, and I believe imagination is what God gives us to preview what we can do.
Speaker 3:What we can do, even if we don't think we can.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:That's a wonderful thing and it's wonderful to understand what it is happening and appreciate when you got it done, so that, anyway, in April I'll have my fourth junction and this past October I had 30 vendors, so almost double the vendors.
Speaker 2:In this space that we're outside In this space.
Speaker 3:I started over there on the South side and the last, well then, the next one. I put them on this side because I had a little more shade, and this last junction in last October, I had to go circle around and then I had two food trucks and I had. So things just.
Speaker 3:And then people just come and shop and they have said I can't like I say I'm a little busy running my legs off and I don't have a formal clicker which maybe I should get. But someone's got to sit there and click it, and over 500 people.
Speaker 2:People.
Speaker 3:And again in hood. In hood that nobody thinks exists. But and I was talking to these two ladies, I didn't know them, but I, you know, met them and I said how did you, how'd you find out? They said, oh, we were just driving around, we just followed the cars out here.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's all, so do you advertise?
Speaker 3:I put on Facebook and Instagram and what I'll do is I highlight each vendor. Well then those vendors then in turn, highlight I mean they will go and share that Because I described their business. You know what they're going to be selling. Well then they share and Facebook gets crazy and it drives me crazy and everything. But there are good things when it's used right to get the word out and yeah, so it is just. But to back up from that, I'm going to share this.
Speaker 3:There's this amazing lady named Pat Seeds who I didn't know from Adam. She contacts me and wanted four pot pies. She'd never had a pie, so to start off with one of my pot pies, that kind of surprised me a little bit. And they're taking bake. I mean, I'll bake them if people want, but anyway, so sure don't know where this is all.
Speaker 3:Over the phone, she shows up here, I'm sorry, in a lemon, yellow pants shirt. She had told me she's an 80 year old retired teacher. Well, don't let that fool you, because she is not frail. She is not. I mean the confidence. Red lipstick, this beautiful hair. She comes on this front porch and I thought immediately I'm going to be her, I'm going to be like her. She just was just amazing and anyway. So she's visiting with me and she kept mentioning and I hope I don't mess this name up, but I want to say Emma or Emily. Oh, emily, emma. Anyway, I wish I had known about you when Emma was here, wish I had known. And I'm like, well, yeah, who was that? And then, oh yeah, well, I had Emma had this. Well, come to find out. Emma or Emily was the founder, the one that started Round Top outside the hospital you know, the
Speaker 3:huge Round Top that's in every one of my country living magazines. And I just dream. I've never even been there, but I just dream. Okay, well, that is a very good friend of hers. Well, we're actually. She's about to leave, we're on the front porch and I got a picture and then she looks and she said you know, you got a little Round Top out here. And I'm like, oh, I mean, it's like Aaron Degler saying I'm going to do a podcast with you. And I'm like, oh, you're crazy, you're crazy. And I turned around and I opened up that door and I thought, maybe I do.
Speaker 3:And we all.
Speaker 2:And it gives you that maybe it is something pretty amazing.
Speaker 3:And I am grateful for it every day but it does help to be little reminders. You know cause we get busy working and doing that part of it, but if you step back it is it is pretty cool, Very cool.
Speaker 2:I'm very thankful too, so thankful Cause of all the people you do get to meet and I mean, is I wish people would really understand the? I mean, what's the population of hood?
Speaker 3:Well, they're finding us. I'll tell you that we have meetings first Monday of every month I would say on a good day. We have eight, 10 people that show up at the meetings. There are, if you're going to consider yourself, you know, actually the people that moved out here recently. I don't even know if they're. If they know they're in hood with the Gainesville address and stuff.
Speaker 3:But it has grown. It's hard for me to say it could be a hundred to. I mean, you know I'm putting this on the map. I'll tell you one pie at a time. One pie at a time.
Speaker 2:With junction 500 people. Those people aren't coming from hood, they're coming from all around.
Speaker 3:They come from the.
Speaker 2:Metroplex. They're coming from all around the county oh.
Speaker 3:I've had my son, one of the sons, he had a, did a golf cart and I had another boy. Help me this last oxygen. I mean junction, but take a golf, because I had people park over there on the other side of the road and he would go, but they had cars clear down to the corner and but I get them on a golf cart and bring them.
Speaker 2:And just bring them, bring them down, bring them and all because you wanted to have a garage sale.
Speaker 3:All because I wanted to. Yeah, and I still need to have a garage sale.
Speaker 2:And it's why I keep hearing this, thinking that that it all starts not because you have this grand business plan.
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, no, I feel this whole thing. I feel like I tripped, you know, tripped and fell and something amazing happened and I have, but that's a whole nother story, I'm not gonna take it.
Speaker 2:As we went out back, you showed me the chandelier shed, and when I say shed, shed, it's a shed.
Speaker 3:There's nothing, it's a shed, but it's pretty.
Speaker 2:But it's a pretty shed, and when I say chandelier, there's actually chandeliers, ones hanging from a box spring.
Speaker 3:Yes, you saw that yes.
Speaker 2:So and the chandelier? How did you share with them how the chandelier shed started?
Speaker 3:Okay, mr Pleger, the neighbor that I mean, that lived here. He of course had built that shed and for a working shed and it there were no doors on it, which now I have that, but it's a great friend had built those doors for me, but it just we were doing the parties here. Did we tell you about our pine sign parties?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, tell them about that.
Speaker 3:Well, so that with Sweet Mother started in January 16, my sweet friend, she has a full-time job but teaching and coaching, but she paints and she does, would do that and just put them on her front porch. Well, when we got together I was like I need you and you did me because of that little catch that I wanted here at the pie house for people to come in and I mean it's one thing for me to decorate it, but if they had little things that they could also get, instead of just a pie, a sign maybe they wanted for whatever, whatever. And so she brought over in October five of her signs and we got to talking about what can we do, what can we do together? And we came up with pie and sign parties and we didn't. We knew we weren't gonna have them painter, bake because this is a small area and cleaning up and all that, and plus we weren't thinking painting with a twist, that had been done and it was wonderful, but that wasn't really my thing talking to Amy was we just wanted people to visit?
Speaker 3:Just to come out here, like I said, on that front porch, and slow down a little bit and which I think, if everybody was really honest, we really all kind of want that to just slow down and the pie house for whatever reason I think you get it kind of makes that happen without you even knowing it.
Speaker 3:It is a relaxing place, so we start these pie and sign parties. We weren't slowing down, but we were letting the other people slow down but we were as busy as ever, which is what those are up there. I know they can't see, but those are samples of all the different we've done over 70, 75 pie and sign so people would.
Speaker 3:Well, they would come out, they'd put money in a kitty for what we would charge for that and they would leave with a homemade pie and a sign that was made for their group and say we did Hello, fall was our first one. Well, it would've been all Amy would pay them and they would all be the same sign but different colors. So that group would ride on the back, maybe sometimes Michelle's party. And it was neat because then that next fall we would get pictures. Oh my gosh, I hung my sign back up, or I've got my here's where I put mine. Just steal that connection. It was so neat and people just booked those things. Well, we were kind of busting at the seams a little bit and I would go out to that shed.
Speaker 2:Because they just would come have, just hang out, Come I would put pie samples around the house.
Speaker 3:They would order pie, not just take their pies, they would order pies. They would see signs on the wall. They would buy signs whatever they wanted, yeah and it was amazing. And then, as we that kept getting more and more, we wanted to maybe check out that shed. So we cleaned it with all the shingles and tires and it was a dirt floor, put gravel on there and tonight because I'm doing a wedding shower out there tomorrow I'll sprinkle glitter all over the ground gravel it'd be sparkling.
Speaker 2:And they originally started with just a chandelier. That was an ugly old chandelier, $5 ugly.
Speaker 3:Yes, garage sale chandelier that we tripped over and we were trying to get talk each other into taking it and spray paint it, put some mason jars on it and made the whole thing after it.
Speaker 2:The chandelier shed. Chandelier shed which now has you know, tables in their chairs, and it's decorated.
Speaker 3:It is, it is taken there. So, yeah, a lot of suite I've done Grandma and Princess party. I had 10 grandmothers and they all brought their granddaughters and had a tea party out there and it was just the sweetest thing. It was really neat.
Speaker 2:So it has grown from you driving all over the countryside to deliver pies, to sign in pies, pying signs, pying signs where they come, and you know and you said the first group stayed five hours.
Speaker 3:Yes, they were 19 of them showed up on the front porch and threatening to never leave, which we thought they never would. They stayed five and a half hours.
Speaker 2:Then you realized we gotta put a time limit on these ladies, we gotta cut this to two hours but I've done Bible study groups, book clubs.
Speaker 3:I was telling you about the group that came from. They were Bible study from Decatur that had grown up with their kids being young and playing soccer and different things but when they came and again slowed down and didn't have soccer, didn't have anything else to worry about. They said they found out more about each other just sitting here for a couple hours visiting. Those things are pretty neat.
Speaker 2:Pretty neat and you have those events, you have Junction, you're working on a silo.
Speaker 3:Silo will be my pie kitchen.
Speaker 2:So right next to where we're sitting at there's a big like silo, like we're talking silo, not a manufactured silo a real silo that came from A real grain bin.
Speaker 3:It's actually a grain bin, yeah, silo that came from. It came from South Carolina and the wonderful guy, Josh Bell, that another angel, unaware that he brought it to me from Georgia. I found him on Facebook.
Speaker 2:Because you thought I want a silo, and then you had second thoughts.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm not, I'm one of four. I didn't grow up spoiled. So Betty Jo's never been good at saying I want, and it happens I don't get when I say I want. But I thought I knew I needed a bigger kitchen and I needed more storage and I need. So yes, in my head I said I think I want a silo. But I then told myself I was crazy and there's no way I'm getting a silo and anyway there's a silo out there. God and I got me a silo.
Speaker 2:There's a silo out there and it's been framed it's been framed.
Speaker 3:That guy, his name is Rooster, is Charles Dorman. Anyway, don't get me started on him. I can talk about him forever, but he is so smart and he cares about me and my project and it shows, I think. So now you saw going out there, I'm getting whenever people come to get a pie, or they don't have to get a pie, whenever they just come out for whatever. I have them sign a two by four, because that is how it is happening, is one pie at a time, and people ask me is it done yet?
Speaker 2:And everything takes a little while because it is being being done one pie at a time.
Speaker 3:One pie at a time. And I got a little discouraged I'm going to be honest, I don't get down and it completely shocked my kids because I thought I don't want to always be doing a project, because I've always got something. And so I thought I'm going to go get a loan and I'm going to knock this silo out and not have to. Well, the crazy banker, he approved me for a loan. I don't know why in the world he did that, but he approved me. And then, looking at the payments, I thought you know, if I had that much extra money I wouldn't need a loan. So I said you know what they call. I'll hang on here and wait.
Speaker 3:And then, when I was sharing that with my oldest, he gave me a good perspective. He used Luck Ranch, willie Nelson's Ranch, and he said anytime he goes out there, whatever he lives out in Austin, that there's always two by four, somewhere, or something is partially built or something. You can tell they're dreaming and thinking of things all the time. And then he just said just step out here, look what you've done. This didn't just happen. I mean it wouldn't just pat me on the back, but let me see, just to get a perspective. It'll happen.
Speaker 2:Because, as we're looking around, it started out in 2016.
Speaker 3:Yes, sweet mother, right and before that this was just an old, old and it still is an old farmhouse the bones of it. But again, just like my pie crust, it's got good bones.
Speaker 2:And that's what makes a good pie.
Speaker 3:Good pie. Yeah, no bones. There's no bones, but yeah.
Speaker 2:But you can see the dream growing. Like I said, one pie at a time. But it didn't start out. What I see today didn't start out that way eight years ago.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:And another two years, it's going to look quite a lot different.
Speaker 3:A lot different.
Speaker 2:And you even have greater visions, greater dreams for when the silo is done, that's going to be your kitchen. You still want to have those conversations, so you have plans for space just for people to sit and visit and visit and places for your refrigerators, and who do you want to employ when?
Speaker 3:Well, that's it. It is just me.
Speaker 2:You're doing all this.
Speaker 3:I'm. It's not like I get tired, but it is. I love doing the pies. I can do the pies.
Speaker 3:It is this background, I don't know background sort the back work of folding boxes Marketing actually is not something that I grew up with, okay, but putting stickers on labels and tissue paper. So my whole background is special needs and I have been blessed so by all the special friends that I've met since 1982. My husband and I met at a camp where we were counselors for special needs and we've kept in touch with so many. So that's who I hope to employ, because there is a job for everybody and the things that my kids or daughter, when they come home and I, you know, just help me fold boxes, especially around holidays find so monotonous. It is very rewarding to someone else and that goes with us too. You know, I mean pie rolling out of pie crust is rewarding to me. It drives someone else crazy, but that's okay and you know I'm not going to be able to do that and you know things that you, I mean I'm watching you set this up and I'm like this is foreign. How does he know where all these things go?
Speaker 2:But, it works. It's something for everybody.
Speaker 3:And I can't wait. That is big. That is big to me because, well, I'll just be honest to think because they will get paid, and to think that I will be in a position to do that. It'll happen. Oh, definitely It'll happen. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Because again you can see it.
Speaker 3:You can see it, and that has been from the beginning, and but everything has a has a time and I've had to wait on some things, but that's okay. It just turns out, honestly, everything turns out better. And I just calm down and step back a little bit.
Speaker 2:As I hear you talking, share your story. I just hear patience over and over. You know you're just patient and you and you don't push it. You're patient and and those things come. And I think sometimes we do have to be patient because we're getting a rush and we mess it up.
Speaker 3:Mess it up. Yes, if I get too much in the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah that if anything needs to yeah, and you're being patient and and what you had planned sometimes is not even, as is not even close to what God had planned. Exactly you know, you just wanted to sell a few things at your garage sale when you had 500 people show up.
Speaker 3:You know four years later, and so many people, other people were blessed by that day, which was amazing. Yeah, so so your idea is really.
Speaker 2:It really is helping others make money, get exposure. Other people become aware of what they have because of just one little idea that you said I want to do that.
Speaker 3:And then just believe in it, believe you can do it. I know there's a. It'd be a lot easier to say not this week or not, and I do don't think.
Speaker 2:So we get tired. So what challenges have you had? You know, because I think that sometimes you know, have have you done things that thought, ooh, shouldn't have done that, or man, that's really hard, I don't know if I can um, maybe overtake essentially by myself.
Speaker 3:I mean that does get. It's maybe a little scary because I don't want to be, you know, put a burden or anything on the kids or whatever, or leave them with something. So I do think about that. Am I going to get this done? Am I going to? I don't know if it's a challenge, and it's not like I lose sleep over it but I do think about it Now silly challenges and it's probably a mental, whatever you say.
Speaker 3:but the marketing part if you're going to talk about a business because I just turned 62 on Monday, so this is not something I grew up with or is even, and I'm not even great about posting a lot on Facebook sometimes I get in my head that, oh gosh, they don't want to see that.
Speaker 3:You know they're tired of seeing me, and then then I do better. But they can scroll, then just move on. But I'll tell you for those people out there, when I do post, pretty much every time we'll sell a pot, you know it's when I get in my head that, well, people tired of hearing about sweet mother, or people are tired, no, I mean it takes that you have to work, the work, the business. And so, yes, I get, I do get busy with outside things and things.
Speaker 2:So do you often think of it as a business? I'll tell you.
Speaker 3:I didn't at first. Well, I couldn't believe it, only because I couldn't believe. Oh, you should have seen me when I got my own business cards. You remember the jerk with Steve? Martin, yes, that's how.
Speaker 2:I was when the phone books came out. They're not going to get that, but anyway you know oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:I just couldn't believe. I mean, I'm thinking that the company knows look at that, pretty Joe has her own pipe, is. So that was amazing. But I was. I was raised in New Mexico and my sisters live there and I had gotten and my parents are there. But anyway, I'd gone home and I just put up a little thing hey New Mexico or hey Carl's, but I can't remember Coming home. I'll be baking a few pies. So, my older sister was actually out of town. I used her kitchen.
Speaker 3:Well, my brother-in-law, comes in at two in the morning and there's a big Joe rolling out dough and he has always been so supportive of this from the get go. And this is 18 months into it or a year or some. And he said Betty Joe, no successful business person is rolling out their own pie dough. At two in the morning. He says is this a hobby? He said, well, he just essentially said you're going to kill yourself. He said is this you've got to figure out is this a hobby or is this a business? And I'm like, but I love it.
Speaker 3:He's like that's okay, is this a hobby or is this? So that that was a good. There have been a couple of things that have helped me, that made me think how serious for sweet mother. If I'm going to take care of sweet mother, she'll have to the business and I'll have to treat it like a business, or it won't, I'll burn out or something will happen, and so that changed and then and I didn't get into this, but in 2019, I told you a little about the camp that we met at my special needs background.
Speaker 3:Well, we have been good friends with the director of that camp all these years. He went on and after camping he was the special needs minister at Highland Park United Methodist Church. Anyway, they know I had no business being in that neighborhood, but that wasn't the deal. Then Vance called me up and they were going to be building a pie and coffee shop in memory of a young man with special needs that have passed away. So he's saying well, these counters need to look like, what does this kitchen need to look like, what do we need? And I'm going through things that I didn't know, but I know, you know, I knew. Now, make sure you have boxes for that wakeover, make sure you know different things. Well, we would just talk over the phone and then he would be having a meeting with the board of directors. So he'd want pies. So I'd make some pies. We'd meet in Denton or Lewisville, because I told him I don't want to drive to Dallas. I don't want to drive to Dallas.
Speaker 3:So we had those kind of things. And then he's like let me take you out for lunch. And I should have known, I should have known. But he said what will it take to get you to come and just help get this thing started to get? And so we had a lot of conversations. But back to where my brother-in-law asked if it was a hobby or business. I was sitting in Vance's office in Dallas, in Highland Park, and he said I want you to go home and I hope people listen to this. I want you to go home and I want you to figure out your worth, because he needed me to come up with a number of what. I was going to be bringing pies to them for them to bake. I was also going to be driving the distance to and from. I was going to stay there eight hours and work with him. So again, this is Betty Jo Webber, who has no business, but a good friend of my mother's. I called her and that was everybody needs to do that. Figure out your worth.
Speaker 2:How hard was that.
Speaker 3:It was so difficult and it again kind of gets me, you know, almost teary because it was so rewarding and it did have someone else helped, have someone else talk me through it, but she's she was Glenda was talking me through you know mileage and how much time on every pie and how much. You know what all this takes and me being a things that I wouldn't think of being away from the pie house that day and all that. And we came up with a number and I'm like I can't, I can't ask.
Speaker 2:I can't tell them that I can't ask that.
Speaker 3:And when I went in and sat down seriously I said, did I just push the paper and I had it itemized for every what I was worth, Not just a pie, but me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And all of me, and I pushed it and, or, put you know, handed it to him and he said all I wish is that I could wish I could do more, and you know, I mean, and that was a little cocky, I'm in a lot pocket.
Speaker 3:And did he say yes, oh yeah, Well, he met with the board and everything and they didn't. So what then? What that turned into. I would go down once a week. I would take at the time 20, 30, 40 of my apple and cherry pies that are taken back. Take them.
Speaker 3:And this is run by special needs adults, and they would bake during the week, those, and then, while I was there on that Wednesday, I would have a crew member that would stand by me and I would teach them, would make cream pies. So you know chocolate, and we do that for a month or so. And you know, take breaking everything down. We broke down every. Some of the crew members had to have it by pitchers, Of course, not words, you know some, but there's all levels. I mean there was a great friend, very high level. It's autism very high level. He couldn't run the place.
Speaker 3:He could run this. I need him. I mean you know but also I had them set up, folding boxes and that meticulous you know, creasing each, each corner, and all that, putting, putting the stickers on separating flour sugar, and so those are my goals for here. I got them set up there.
Speaker 2:So how long did you do that?
Speaker 3:I was doing that. But I have weaned off a lot. Where they have, they're doing chocolate, coconut cream, key lime, so they pretty much are getting my pie shells. Now I will roll, get them dough and because you're not giving out that secret. Not, don't even my two sisters, aaron, don't have it.
Speaker 2:Really, you're the, you're the one. Yes, my mother and.
Speaker 3:I talked every week. Anyway, she was amazing and we're very much like yeah yeah, it's in a safe. My, my daughter Rachel. She said just put it in a box. She said I won't even look at it till you did. She's a little hard. But have you seen that where they wanted that grandmother's cookie recipe and she kept telling them? Her and all the people would ask and she said over my dead body and they put it on her to? I think I might do that.
Speaker 2:Over my dead body.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't even think I'll do that.
Speaker 2:So you still send the pie crust down, and so I'll make it.
Speaker 3:I'll put balls of dough for them, for them to, and then I'll have their shells and they can, then they take care of it. I'll still do the apple and cherry but, they're doing the cream pies. They are catering now. They have a great head manager of it that she's with your pie shells.
Speaker 2:Isn't that amazing that the impact that you've had, that you've taught them and it's going out even getting more of a reach than what you could. Oh, and now you've taught them the skill, that's just amazing. It's just amazing.
Speaker 3:And to back up and I know I'm talking too long, no, you're great when, when Sweet Mother was going before chance this is the place is called chances in Dowson, it's within the church, another building but Before that ever happened, I was about maybe almost a year into Sweet Mother and I told the kids I just well, we were already doing Pinesign parties. I said I don't want to have to worry about I need to have this many Pinesign parties a month. I need to sell this many pies. I just want, whatever this is supposed to be, let it be, but to keep it going.
Speaker 3:It would be nice Maybe if in Gainesville a business maybe needed a few pies every month for a meeting or something but, something that was consistent, right, and I had donated a Texas pie to and it looks like the Texas flag, it's kind of cool and to the Zubalee in.
Speaker 3:Gainesville and I don't think anything, I'd make the donation or send it. And it was two days later. I get a phone call and this guy says oh my gosh, I saw this Texas pie and it's the coolest thing. I'm going to need 14 of them. Well, I hope I can say all this one thing, but anyway, it happened to be the mayor of Gainesville. So I'm like, well, all right, so I do it.
Speaker 3:Few weeks later, he's got family coming in or he's wanting to ship him something and he wants 14 more. So I call the kids this is it? I'm in. Well, aaron, it wasn't it, he'd still get it, holidays and stuff, but that wasn't. But what amazes me is God took because I'm just thinking this in my head yes, I mentioned it to the kids, but I'm not dwelling on it, it's if it were, you know whatever. And then God took my love of special needs, my love of pie, my love of meeting, consistent money, a little money. And he, he just like, I'll show you. And yeah, he had me going to Dallas, but that's all right, I got to work a little bit.
Speaker 2:So so do you have pies that on like you sell on consistent every month like to a certain organization or Well, something has just started.
Speaker 3:I took my daughter is there at the county seat and so they have, and that was word of mouth. Girl that does my hair. It's the girl that sits behind her that does hair was girlfriend of one of the owners and so I took a buttermilk pie in there and then that turned into an apple and a buttermilk and now that's turned into a. They're bourbon pecan. I do bourbon pecan and coconut cream. And they've had.
Speaker 2:they've had those for several weeks, so that seems to be doing well, so do you ship pies.
Speaker 3:I don't ship pies Again. That's a whole nother ball game and maybe with the silo, but just the store, the that's a lot of storage and a lot. I'm just not. I have people wanting me to do it. It's hard for me to justify until I've worked if maybe one day I am a bigger setup to justify charging someone that for a pie of what it would cost me to ship it. I just want them. People just enjoy pie and I really like the pie house. I don't want to ship it. You come here.
Speaker 2:Because there is something special about the pie house that they part of the pie is experiencing the pie house.
Speaker 3:I do believe that. I do believe that and I think, yeah, it's good for everybody.
Speaker 2:And from a business standpoint, you talk about it. You start with a pie, selling them driving around. Then it's you know how can I, you know? Then you're selling multiple pies. You're going to Dallas, you're showing others how to make pies. You're creating revenue for yourself there. Then you create this space. That's not just the pie house, but it's everything is the chandelier shed, it's the trailer out back. Now you have the rolling pin, the rolling pin, because it really is a little bitty.
Speaker 3:A little venue. Yeah, I didn't, until someone told me it was a venue. I didn't even get it, though it was a venue.
Speaker 2:I was a venue, yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I was like I don't have a venue but there.
Speaker 2:but and now you have photographers coming out Photographers come out Doing many sessions. Doing sessions, you have an old car.
Speaker 3:Yes, what is it?
Speaker 2:50.
Speaker 3:57 Pontiac Chieftain. Yes.
Speaker 2:So now you have that. So from a business standpoint, you make pies, but now you have all these revenue streams, but you're still holding true to what you started with what started. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I know the, you know pies are what got me here, so I won't let. But it has grown to a lot.
Speaker 2:And you have the junction, so you have a lot of different, and I think that's so important for businesses because, yes, could you still do all this with a one pie at a time, but that one pie at a time is creating all those different avenues of revenue that will help you grow and serve your greater mission.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, and even the junction has been made. Well, the people that I've met through that and visiting, and the stories, so whenever I was highlighting them, of course people knew they were coming to the buy house, but I didn't ever mention anything about pies.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 3:I didn't make a big deal, I didn't highlight me, I just really wanted my vendors to do well. And amazing, aaron, that was from 10 to four and the first one I had made. I think I had 97 pies, whatever fits in that freezer, and just to fill it and have it ready ever pie gone one o'clock and I'm like what? So then the next one, you know I'll do more, next one. Anyway, that cracks me up.
Speaker 2:So how many pies did you make for this last?
Speaker 3:one. This last one, I was maybe 120.
Speaker 2:And you sold out All there.
Speaker 3:One or two o'clock and so that's been. But I loved hearing from the vendors and how it has, because some of them are either small business starting out or just doing it for fun, whatever. But it is a happy place. You got to come.
Speaker 2:I'm going to come next year.
Speaker 3:It's going to do it. It's like a home and garden.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have plants and I've got a little thing, because I think Judy has come out here for.
Speaker 3:She does the t-shirts yes.
Speaker 2:So and I guess I didn't fully realize what she had told me, the junction I was like okay, but you didn't know, you just did.
Speaker 3:And she said okay.
Speaker 2:She said it's just out in the country. I'm like, okay, that's cool, but but after being here I was like this is a place people have to experience.
Speaker 3:Yes and I love. But I do really like that it's mainly word of mouth because it's like it's surprising people.
Speaker 2:So what they call in social media, organic.
Speaker 3:Oh, is that right yeah.
Speaker 2:It's organic. You don't pay for it. It's just word of mouth, yeah. It's just yeah, and I agree.
Speaker 3:I think organic is the best growth because it's like I can control it too a little bit, because it gets you do feel exposed. Like that day it kind of hit me and I'm like whoa, you know, they do start thinking things.
Speaker 2:But Because when your friend says you got to try this pie, this is the most amazing pie I've ever had you have to come out to this place it's the most peaceful place and go. Oh well, if my friend said it, then I need to go there. It's different than if you see an ad on Facebook or Instagram.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, yeah, kind of waters it down a little.
Speaker 2:And, quite honestly, judy has told me about the junctions, she's told me about your pies several different times until we had a conversation is when it kind of really hit me, and then, coming out here today, it's like it really hit me.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:What the impact it has and the amount of people it touches and the larger you touch, it isn't.
Speaker 2:And you know what you talked about hearing stories and, as I mentioned to you kind of before we started that the mind body project kind of came out of me training clients and hearing that there's more than just their weight issues, there's things that have caused that in their life, and so the weights, the training, is my medium, it's how we talk, because if we sit across the table from each other and have some of those conversations it'd be real awkward.
Speaker 3:Awkward and it's hard to get things out like that.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it's kind of like you know and you can hear those stories when people are having pie. Yeah, and it's just like you know, it's like you know you can hear the sound of the metal and it kind of breaks. Yeah, Because it's just a different atmosphere when you can discuss those things you can share those stories over pie, over pie, and just like I said earlier too.
Speaker 3:Isn't it amazing? I know you find that too. What a small world. I just love it. I mean, it cracks me up and it is just visiting with people.
Speaker 2:And did you find that great I'm originally. I was born in Pennsylvania. My parents you know Pennsylvania, so in Pennsylvania they have shoe fly pie and you mentioned shoe fly pie that you make shoe fly pie and I've never heard, ever of anybody.
Speaker 3:And let me tell you I don't make a lot of them because not many people know what they are.
Speaker 2:So I can't wait to tell my parents about.
Speaker 3:I can't wait to make you one yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, I'm like so excited about it.
Speaker 3:What about rhubarb, strawberry rhubarb?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't think they have rhubarb, but my parents they say they talk about rhubarb pie.
Speaker 3:And of course, we don't grow rhubarb here. Well, a girl, a lady, had come out. She's getting coconut cream. She'd never been out here before. She just was coming to get that. Well then, of course, you know, I start talking and we're walking all around. Well, she just mentioned I can't wait to tell my sister. I met them. So I don't know anything about her sister, but she said she lives out in the country, in Nebraska. Okay, well, and then she just said yeah, tell her, you know you can take pictures, do whatever.
Speaker 3:Two weeks later I get a Styrofoam. It comes in the mail UPS, whatever beautifully wrapped freezer bag, like probably eight freezer bags of rhubarb cut Because we can't get it here, and not that I have a ton of people asking, but when people want rhubarb they're serious, they want a rhubarb pie. You know, and I don't like, I don't even think you can find canned. I don't know. I went looking. I just wanted the real. I did that. This past summer was the third summer she's done that for me. I've never met her.
Speaker 2:But she sends you.
Speaker 3:But she sends me rhubarb. Beautiful, the most beautiful, tammy and Janet Anyway out there in TV land hall.
Speaker 2:And those are things that, by having those conversations, Exactly.
Speaker 3:You wouldn't know. None of that stuff would. But you do. People do have. I know I could talk people's ear off and people are like I'm afraid this is what happens Now. If you go to the pie house when I'm being there an hour, you don't have to. First of all, you don't have to get a pie, and I promise, just tell me I don't have time. I don't have time to talk, that's okay, I'll get you one of these times you can just grab a pie and go.
Speaker 2:You can.
Speaker 3:And I don't know if I should put this out there, but there's been times I maybe I should put this out. Anyway, I won't be here. They know to come in the back and Because, country On your honor.
Speaker 2:Yes, is a little different.
Speaker 3:And I hope it doesn't change.
Speaker 2:Because you want to keep that, that atmosphere, that special.
Speaker 3:But I think. And then here's my deal, aaron If people say they came, say someone took two pies or whatever, or didn't put. You know, well, they must have really needed the pie. Then I mean, I'm not going to be too naive, but you know they're worse things and but I've never had that, Don't worry about that.
Speaker 2:Sometimes people respect the place and they and it's just a great space. Yeah, yeah, and and it's, it's a powerful vision if you come out here to the pie house and you can see it on Facebook.
Speaker 3:Facebook. Yes, sweet mother of pies, sweet mother. Yes, I'm not like in my marketing I'm not I need to update and get some, but there he is, there's the junction on there and people will be yeah.
Speaker 2:So they can go, they can look at pictures and see it. But when you think about it's a great visualization to see because a lot of times we have a vision, we have a dream, but we can't always see the concrete of it and feel like they can come out here and see what your vision started, your dream started, and then what, a little bit at a time, how concrete that is, because you can come out here, you can see, touch, feel everything. And that was once just a dream in your mind. It was just a dream.
Speaker 3:Really Just a dream.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was just something you thought, oh, that'd be cool.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:A thought you had.
Speaker 3:Yes, just a thought, just a pep, just amazing. Or just walking back in the door. Maybe I do, you know, maybe I can, maybe, and this is something and I've tried to share this with my kids why not me? If. I don't do it, someone else will, so why not? Why not go for it? What's the worst that can happen? Yeah?
Speaker 2:And because of that attitude of why not me?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's fun, it's a fun way to be, I think. I mean, I like it.
Speaker 2:Would you say this is a fun part of your life, Of your different seasons of life.
Speaker 3:I will tell you yes, I have five grandkids. Love them dearly. This is for them. They love it. You know they and this is is my life, this is I mean, it is a yeah, it is a huge part. I mean my family and they're so supportive.
Speaker 2:So does anybody else in the family make pies? I mean, if you give them the crust, that is.
Speaker 3:Rachel she's my youngest. I have been with a grandbaby being born and someone has called up oh Bejo, I need. So I'm like Rachel, guess what? You're going to need this, this, this.
Speaker 2:So are the grandkids, do they?
Speaker 3:No, they're six and under, oh okay, so they're still little, but they talk. Oh and yeah, my El Juliet, she's the oldest, she wants a pie house, just like Mama.
Speaker 2:Jo, is that your?
Speaker 3:grandma name Mama Jo, mama Jo yes.
Speaker 2:Mama Jo, I love that. Yeah if it's I like that. It's just wonderful being here with you today, betty Jo, and seeing how far your dream has come, and as you share with me and shared with the silo, and as you point out the different things there, I can see it all. I can see the refrigerators, the freezers, I can see the counter.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, now you see it. See, it is gonna happen.
Speaker 2:Yes but when you clearly have your vision, you can explain it to somebody and they see it too, and you do, because you pointed it, and I can see everything that you shared with me. I can see people coming in. I can see people sitting at the little table. I can see people employees behind there putting boxes together. I can see all that. I can see the smile on your face as people come up, as they drive up just to show up to get a pie. You're out there baking. They go out to see you. They stop and visit and you get to hear stories and it's a place that just opens up their hearts and with them sharing with you. You get to share your life with them because you just live right across the fence. That's your house and so I can see all that and it's just an amazing space that you can offer people that, Because I think in our busier times in life we need a place where we can just have a piece of pie or just get a pie.
Speaker 2:Right just slow down, Because those pies that leave here, if they're not eaten here, they go to a kitchen table, a dining room table that a family sits around and has a different conversation that they wouldn't have had if they didn't have that pie. And so there's things coming out of that pie changing families that have a discussion, that have those things that come out that could be life changing for them over a pie that came from you, Because of just I love hearing it come back like that.
Speaker 2:It does, and I don't think we take the time sometimes to realize what we do. You think of it as just making a pie.
Speaker 3:You know, it can seem small or it can seem busy, yeah, but it.
Speaker 2:I made 50 pies today. I made 50 pies this week.
Speaker 2:Those were just one pie after another, but those pies go to different homes and they have different impacts, and I think sometimes All those little ripples Ripples, yes, that go out and will continue to go out all over the country, because you have people sending you a rhubarb and magazine writers coming to see you and places seeing that podcast, podcast, yeah, that that could be heard all over the world and they go. Well, I'm in a different country, how do I get a pie sent to me? And then, well, you're going to have to drive down to hood.
Speaker 3:Texas, one pie at a time. Just wait for me, I'll get it to you.
Speaker 2:And if you live not around, then it's a worth the drive to come in and get a pie from the pie house and to visit with you and share their story with you.
Speaker 3:I'd love it. Yeah, I would love it, and I'll just tickle that you let me share it. This is so.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm excited you allowed me to come and visit. I know I just I love it and take all the pictures and just see it. So thank you.
Speaker 3:I appreciate it. Yeah, it's hard. I can tell people you know, but you do have to come see it. I feel like you can tell people about it, and that's how it is with a lot of things.
Speaker 2:And I think it's yes, you can tell people about it, you can see it, but it's a feeling and I have a group in my town that I tell them. I want people to pull into town and kind of like feel their dreams. They pull up and they're not sure why they're here, but it makes them feel like no other place.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:And I wish I could bring all of them here and they get to feel, because when I pulled out, I got out of my truck. You know I was kind of looking for you but I thought, well, I'll walk around, and that's the feeling I got is it's just wow, this is just. I could just feel. If you believe in energy, I think everything has energy. It has a calm, peaceful energy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't buy it, it's just, it's a gift.
Speaker 2:And you can't. I couldn't put my finger on it because, again, I live out in the country, but I don't feel like this at home. So it is something different and it has a different energy that I think everybody needs to come out and experience and be a part of it Well?
Speaker 1:I hope so.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so where can?
Speaker 3:they find you. What's the best way? Well, as far as like, social media so. Facebook Betty Jo Weber, and then it's Sweet Mother Pies. I'm also on Instagram, sweet Mother Pies, and I've had people Google me. That kind of cracks me up, but I guess I'm there. And then this is you could phone number. I don't know what you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, just yeah, they can find you on social media, but no website.
Speaker 3:You know there's not a website. I think I might need to grow up, though Maybe I need a website. I'll talk to you about that later. Yeah, We'll talk over pie.
Speaker 2:Hey, good conversation over pie, because as we wrap this up, there's an apple pie.
Speaker 3:There is an apple pie waiting for Aaron, because I didn't know about shoe flies.
Speaker 2:So I was kind of excited. So I was hoping I was going to get some pie today. I'm pretty excited but thank you, betty Jo, that they can find you on Facebook, instagram and another business point is be the same across all social media. So Sweet Mother Pies is the same on Facebook or Instagram, and that's a good point is to stay consistent against all platforms.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Makes it so much easier to find. So work around, yeah, yes, so thank you, betty Jo, for inviting me out to Sweet Mother Pies, the pie house and everything that's going on Share with the world, because the world will hear this about the history and that nobody will get Mother's Secret recipe to her crust.
Speaker 3:No one will get the pie crust recipe. But even as much as I talk today, I still have more stories. So come on out, you're not surprised.
Speaker 2:Come on out and share a story with you. Come out at Sweet Mother Pies in Hood Texas.
Speaker 3:That's right. Thank you so much. Thank you, Erin.
Speaker 2:Thank you, and thank you, richie, for stopping by and telling my wife come every night before I go to bed. It's Bob and I double A out.
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