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Josephine McGrail
#35 How Quantum Hypnosis Can Help With Nadia Gledhill
Nadia is a Quantum Hypnosis practitioner, spiritual guide, and passionate explorer of consciousness. She helps people connect with their Higher Self, explore past lives, and expand their awareness.
With a grounded, holistic approach, she opens the door to clarity, healing, and inner guidance.
Nadia works with clients around the world through private sessions, group workshops, and online courses. She has spoken at Portal to Ascension’s The Awakening of Humanity summit and has facilitated workshops at retreats across Australia and internationally.
Through her work, Nadia helps you reconnect with your Higher Self and remember who you truly are – a multidimensional soul on a journey of awakening.
Located in the south east of Melbourne, Nadia is known for her Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique (QHHT) sessions in Melbourne, Quantum Hypnosis online sessions, and her group past life regression workshops.
Website: https://qhhtaustralia.com.au/
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Josephine McGrail: So good morning. Good morning. So I'm sitting down with the gorgeous Nadia Glethill today. She's based out in Australia, and it's a great joy to have you here, Nadia, from what I can understand. So you specialize in many beautiful different healing modalities, but specifically in something called quantum healing hypnosis. And you also work with past life regression.
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Josephine McGrail: It is such an honor to have you here so welcome to the podcast. Nadia, and please introduce yourself in any other way that I may not have done.
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Nadia: No, thank you. Just. It's an absolute pleasure to be here. You know I love chatting about my work. And you know the difference that can make. So yeah, I'm really, I'm really honored. And to be here with you today.
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Josephine McGrail: Amazing. And for our listeners. So basically, I post a lot on Instagram myself. But I hardly ever sort of explore the space. But for some reason, Nadia, you popped into my feed, and every single post, every creation that every message that you bring out
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Josephine McGrail: I'm just always so inspired by. And so I always go with my gut feeling, and hence why, when you sort of once again had one of those creation out there, I just immediately thought. Let me ask if nature is up for this, because
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Josephine McGrail: every post you have it's it feels so, you know. It's so. Your energy flowing through. It is so genuine, it's so beautiful, it's so inspiring and empowering.
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Josephine McGrail: And just this deep feeling of inclusivity. So I just really wanted to share that that we haven't actually met. This is the 1st time that we're meeting here on screen. But it's really beautiful. So, Nadia, talk us through a little bit about your own story, if you like. Where were you born, and what kind of family system, family structure were you born into.
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Nadia: Yeah. So I was born in Melbourne. And yeah, I mean, I had the regular type of family structure, you know, mom, dad, sibling so pretty unremarkable, you know, in that respect, sort of the cookie cutter, nuclear family type setup. And I've always, you know, I've always lived in Melbourne in different areas, but always yeah. Always been in Melbourne my whole life.
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Josephine McGrail: Okay. Wow.
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Nadia: Okay.
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Josephine McGrail: And then, as a kid growing up, were you one of several different siblings? Or how many were you.
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Nadia: One sibling. So I have an older brother few years older than me. Yeah. But yes, it was a pretty. It was a pretty normal type. Childhood, I suppose, as far as normal goes. Yeah.
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Nadia: you know. Yeah. My parents stayed together, which is actually pretty abnormal these days, I suppose. And yeah, I mean, we'll still get along. Yeah. It was an interesting, you know, an interesting time, I suppose, but not in a bad way it was. It was a good childhood.
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Josephine McGrail: Understood, and so growing up. So take us back when, Nadia, when you were around, you know, when you were little or in your teenage years. When did you know what you wanted to do with your life here, and what kind of path did it take you on initially.
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Nadia: That's a good question. You know what I still don't know what I want to do with my life. Having said that, you know, and what I mean by that is, it's we're always changing and evolving, you know. I struggled like a lot of people, you know, struggled with.
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Nadia: what am I going to do when I grow up? What should I? You know, when I'm in high school, and they put that pressure on you? You've got to pick your classes so that you can go to the uni course that you want. And I remember thinking, I don't want to go to Uni because I didn't know what I wanted to do.
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Nadia: So yeah, I suppose I never really knew what I wanted to do. I mean, I knew that I wanted to help people in some way, you know, feel useful, I suppose, but
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Nadia: in terms of exactly how that looked I had no idea. And I think most people, don't you know, if they do it, it can change. So I'm very open to that. I'm very open to always exploring new things. But yeah, it's so hard, isn't it? I mean, who knows when you're a child, what you want to be when you grow up.
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Josephine McGrail: 100%, and then we grow up. And then I think you really hit the nail, the PIN on the nail, whatever you call it in English nail on the head.
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Nadia: Okay.
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Josephine McGrail: In that, you know you said. Do we ever, do we ever truly know what we want to do? You know how we want to spend our time here, and I think I think it's as much as that can feel challenging in a system that tells you you have to know. And then you have to live an ABC. Life that can feel so hard and so overwhelming. But I think actually, it's our most authentic way of living is to lift the question and to live in the wonder, because if you don't know.
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Josephine McGrail: then there's space for everything, you know. If you don't know, then you can. You know it's like we take a walk in the forest right? Or we walk on the beach. And yes, we may have an idea that. Let's walk towards the sunset, or you know, we're walking in the forest, and we're like, Oh, there's water coming from somewhere, and we start walking down that path towards the water, but then, all of a sudden, a horse appear, and we go well. The horse is nice, and you know my point is.
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Josephine McGrail: then we are open. We are in this receptive space where we can go. Oh, let's walk with life. Let's not try and push life into this restrictive space, right? Because for me, that's actually that is the most natural thing about being alive is that we are evolving with life and walking with life and guided with life. So
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Josephine McGrail: I totally get from a rational perspective. It's like, Okay, we're born into this world. And then school tells you you have to be a certain way, and then, you know, because otherwise you don't have money. And then who are you and all this kind of stuff? But I think thank you so much for your openness and going. I don't think we ever really truly know, and I'm always, you know, evolving and just like my plants in my house. Always talk about nature.
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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, none of my plants come into my life and go, Josie. I'm going to be 2 cm tall, and that's me done, and I'm going to turn into a rose, and I will never change color, and I will bloom at this time at this day, you know. So thank you. You know, this is so potent. Okay? So anyway, this was your sort of upbringing going. Okay? Well, maybe I tried this, and maybe I tried that. And okay. And then.
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Josephine McGrail: in terms of you know, let's say when you're around. I have no idea what age you are, by the way, but let's say, when you were in your sort of like
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Josephine McGrail: mid to late mid to late twenties wherever you're at in your life, Nadia.
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Josephine McGrail: So in terms of.
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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, go on,
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Nadia: Oh, no, see, I was gonna say so mid to late twenties. Where was I? I was?
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Nadia: Well, a couple of jobs in. You know I've done different things. Was never really happy in in terms of work. You know I had met my now husband when I was.
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Nadia: I don't know how old I was. Actually, I would have been 20,
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Nadia: 4, or 25 when we met. So you know, I was in that sort of new relationship, and that was all good. But I did feel like there was something still missing, because.
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Nadia: although you know, I say, don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
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Nadia: you know I don't think it. It matters us so much
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Nadia: how you do something. For example, you know, I know I knew I wanted to help people. I just didn't know how or which route to take, you know. Do I do counseling? Do I do psychology? Do I become a nurse? Do I like what you know? There's so many different ways you can help people. But the role I was in, and the roles I had been in
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Nadia: weren't really helping people the way I wanted.
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Josephine McGrail: No.
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Nadia: And so, you know, I did feel
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Nadia: a bit. I don't know. Empty. I suppose something was lacking didn't really, even at the time I think I didn't really realize what was lacking other than I just didn't like my job, you know. So
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Nadia: it was. It was an interesting time, you know I was happy in so many other aspects of my life, but didn't like my work.
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Nadia: you know, and I've always been very spiritually inclined ever since I was little.
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Josephine McGrail: No.
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Nadia: Always into things that are a little bit left of center, a little bit different. I've always been a real thinker. I'll question everything, only from the perspective of wanting to understand. You know more than anything else, you know, wanting to really understand how things work.
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Nadia: And you know, I actually really even love different people's opinions and points of view. I'm very flexible. I'm open to changing my mind. I'm not set in my ways, you know. If someone has a good argument for something, I'll consider it, you know. So yeah. So that time in my life was interesting. You know, so many aspects of my life were
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Nadia: great, but I did feel like something was lacking, and in hindsight isn't hindsight a lovely thing?
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Josephine McGrail: Yeah.
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Nadia: Work, but you know, didn't realise that at the time, really.
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Josephine McGrail: Of course, absolutely so. I'm sure that must have taken you down lots of different paths, lots of different avenues. And at what point? Because obviously, what you know, what you sort of like, at least share with the world is this quantum healing hypnosis, technique and the past life regression? At what point did that start to become a little seed in your mind, or was it always stay in the background like? Do you remember the 1st time you were kind of introduced to it.
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Nadia: I was. Actually it was never really a seed. So
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Nadia: what happened or the way I was introduced? I think like a lot of people, you know. I stumbled across Dolores Cannon and her work, and I recall watching a video she was at a lecture talking about her book between life, sorry between death and life.
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Josephine McGrail: And.
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Nadia: And I watched this. It's like a 1 h talk that she did.
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Nadia: and I just remember so much of what she was saying was resonating on such a deep level. I felt it.
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Nadia: The only way I can describe it is, it was as if my soul was saying everything. This is right. This is what she's saying is true. And so that really intrigued me, and it didn't intrigue me to the point where I thought, oh, I want to do this, but I was
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Nadia: very interested in having a session myself. I thought, Oh, wow! You know, I'd be really curious to have a session. This sounds really cool, you know, I can go to a past life or somewhere else, get some answers. And I think even at the time I didn't really know
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Nadia: what answers I wanted or needed, because
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Nadia: I suppose I didn't really know I was more curious. I was very open. I wasn't too set in. I need answers to Xyz. And so I went along and had a session, and it was great, and you know I at the time I remember it so well. I remember talking about it with everyone I was like, this is great. You know, I had past life, and this is what came up. And this is what my subconscious and my higher self said. And
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Nadia: and you know it wasn't until
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Nadia: it was a few months later.
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Nadia: That
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Nadia: I realized one day, just like an epiphany, a download out of nowhere came to me, and I realized that since that session my life was better, and when I, when I say my life was better, I mean, outwardly it was still the same. I still had the same job.
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Nadia: I, you know, was with my partner, and that was always good anyway. So everything was surface level still the same. But my life felt better.
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Nadia: and I realised then that
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Nadia: it was from that session, because there were things that I discovered about myself, or I suppose it really gave me some clarity around different things around my life, and actually made me realize
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Nadia: the role that I was playing in my own happiness. And you know things that I was unhappy with realized. I had the power to change, and things like that. And so
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Nadia: in those preceding few months, little changes I made in my life, you know, speaking up for myself more. And you know, guess what the world didn't cave in when I did that, you know. So all these little things that I had been doing unknowingly. Actually, it wasn't a conscious thing. I just started doing it.
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Nadia: And yeah, I just remember thinking, Oh, wow! All from that session. And
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Nadia: the change that it provided me just through receiving some answers and some clarity around. My life was huge. And I thought, Wow, you know.
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Nadia: that's when it hit me again. I was like, this is what I need to do. I want to give this a shot. And so yeah. And then I
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Nadia: I was, you know, a bit cautious in the beginning, because, you know, there are so many things I'd considered and started and lost interest. And you know, it just never felt right. But I yeah, decided, I'm just going to give this a shot. And I started the course, and the minute I started the course I just knew, you know, everything just
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Nadia: really felt so aligned, and for me it was very easy to learn. It was like it was almost like I'd done it before. It was very, very easy for me. And yeah, it's just it's been great since. So you know, that's how that all came about. So it was never really a seed. I was never really thinking, oh, I want to learn this. One day it was more just. I came across the modality. I had a session. And yeah, a few months later, I
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Nadia: all of a sudden, like a back to the head. It was like, this is what I need to do. So that's how that all came about.
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Josephine McGrail: Oh, my God, I love this! This is so beautiful! And I love how you actually you keep saying it felt right. So it was a felt experience.
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Josephine McGrail: You know that thing, and I think this is what you know when something resonates, I mean, resonance is a vibration right? And so that's your whole body, your whole cells, your whole being going. This is for me, you know. So we talk about a full bodied yes, right? It's not a thought. It's not a rational this makes sense for me like it's a felt feeling, and and the way I always like to connect it to is kind of similar to just so everyone also listeners that are like, okay, this sounds interesting. But
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Josephine McGrail: you know, healing hypnosis. I'm not sure but just the thing is, what we are all sure about is
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Josephine McGrail: we've all been in love. That's a feeling you don't think your way to falling in love. You don't sit there and go. This would really make sense if I fall in love with that dude over there. A woman right? It's like it's a full body experience. And and you know, so it's that same thing with you the way you're talking about the experience like, okay, you came across it. But something within you was like.
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Josephine McGrail: let me try a little more, and so you dug a little deeper. You had the session yourself, and then you were like, Oh, wow, like you said. You know, it was like.
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Josephine McGrail: you know, you were. Well, what I'm just gonna call it like remembering like your body was going. Yes, yes, yes. And then, even when you dived in and you're like, let me actually let me study this again the way the reason, maybe perhaps it was easy for you is because it really was. It really is you? It is so you and I think that's just like this. Physical experience
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Josephine McGrail: is such an important parameter, for like a compass going is something for me is something not for me, and in the head the mind which always has its own agenda, and always trying to keep us safe, etc. Etc. It can get so confusing. It's like, Oh, but I should, and I could, and but the body, the body doesn't lie. The body has no other agenda than essentially going like. Yes, this is you or no, this isn't you.
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Josephine McGrail: You know your body's always on your side. So I think this is just such a beautiful, so beautiful to hear about it, so lovely! Nadia, when was this? Is this recently? Is this a few years ago. When did this happen.
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Nadia: Would have been about 4 years ago. Now.
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Josephine McGrail: Oh, wow, yeah, okay, so still.
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Josephine McGrail: Wow, amazing. So still, kind of recently, okay? And yeah, same, I love that so beautiful.
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Nadia: Oh, man!
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Josephine McGrail: And are you because I was trying to look into it a little bit? Are you mainly seeing people in person is still still the thing? Or are you also doing certain things online.
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Nadia: Well, yeah, there's there's the quantum healing hypnosis technique, which is the Dolores cannon method, which that can only be done in person. And I also do different. There's many different versions out there, but I also do quantum hypnosis which I deliver online.
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Nadia: And so they're very similar modalities in the sense that you know it allows your
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Nadia: self to. Well, you know we allow your higher self to guide you to the most appropriate time and place to get answers, and then we connect in with the subconscious or higher self to gain further clarification. So they're very, very similar in those respects. It's, you know, with the Dolores cannon method. Obviously, you know, there's a certain way that they want that delivered, and of course
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Nadia: I respect that, and that's only done in person. And that is a beautiful experience, too. It is nice actually being face to face with someone in person. I mean, it's just, you know, the quantum hypnosis is just as effective online as the quantum healing hypnosis technique is in person.
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Nadia: It really, I think, comes down to the client themselves. The person who's having the session. If they feel more comfortable in person, then, you know, find someone you can go to in person, or if they're comfortable online, do that, too. You know it's it's all the same. I mean, it all works through energy, anyway. So there's no issues there with distance or anything like that.
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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, a hundred percent. I totally agree. And it is always like, I said, it's also about the match between the practitioner and the client coming in right? So it's always.
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Nadia: Yes.
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Josephine McGrail: It's not just the technique it is so much about. You know your energy and the other person's energy. And and there's always, you know, because I have a lot of people coming to me, and because I do energy healing as well, and people like, oh, who can you recommend? And I'm like, I will recommend people that I resonate with. But the most important thing is how you feel when you, when you hear their name, when you read what they've. You know what they're writing about. When you see them like, you have to trust your own physical body. Your body will tell you
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Josephine McGrail: whether this is because it might also be that it's not that that person is not a good person or a bad person. It's not about that at all. It's just about the 2 of you together
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Josephine McGrail: at that moment. In time it might even be that you meet each other 5 years from now. And you're like Whoa! Now this is the moment, but it always relates back to that thing. It is, you know. Energy work is always about the people involved, more so than the modality itself, I would say. But what I want to ask gorgeous Nadia, is for someone who's brand new to this technique has never heard about quantum healing hypnosis.
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Josephine McGrail: especially the whole quantum bit which I love. But could you describe a little more in detail to sort of a complete someone who's curious, but haven't got a clue. What is this about.
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Nadia: Yes, good question. So you know what it's about. So essentially, it's
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Nadia: a form of hypnosis where the client's higher self is in control, and what I mean by that is so. Your traditional let's called traditional or clinical hypnosis, you know, relies on, I mean. Still, in that sense the client is in control, but
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Nadia: it relies on the practitioner, I suppose, implanting, you know, suggestions and things like that into the subconscious mind, maybe to change a habit, or whatever the case may be, that they're going there for.
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Nadia: And I like to think with the quantum hypnosis it's in reverse, really, you know, as a practitioner. It's not my job to implant suggestions or anything like that. It's my job to guide the client into that beautiful state of relaxation where we allow their higher self to take them to the most appropriate time and place.
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Nadia: And you know, for most people that's a past life. Sometimes it's somewhere else, you know. Sometimes people will go back to scenes in their current lifetime. Sometimes they will go to I mean, just still technically a past life. But they'll go to say a life where they were an animal or a plant, or they might go back to a lifetime on another planet, or they may go to a time where
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Nadia: they didn't have a physical body. They were consciousness. And that's always really interesting to explore as well what they're doing where they are, what's happening. But you know whatever
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Nadia: place that their higher self guides them to, you know, it's my job to just ask lots of questions, get lots of detail. And then from that, once we've explored whatever experience
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Nadia: we then connect with the Higher Self itself. And you know, that's where I get to ask even more questions. You know, around the experience that they just had around. You know the the questions that the client has, because clients will come in with a set of questions. You know things they want to know about their life.
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Nadia: I think there are so many people out there who believe that hypnosis is a form of control, or you know I'm going to be asleep, and you're going to make me cluck like a chicken or and it's really not. It's just this beautiful state of relaxation.
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Nadia: And it's, I suppose, because the higher self is guiding the session. The Higher Self will like, I say, take them to most appropriate time and place. And the reason why that's so important is because on a conscious level.
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Nadia: we don't know what we need. You know, we may think we know what we need, or we may want something or a certain experience. But that may not be what we need at this point in our life, you know. And so the high self essentially will always bring you somewhere to get answers that you need right now as well as perhaps even again, every session is so different, but usually
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Nadia: the advice or the information it gives you allows you to take those next steps in your life, you know. Sometimes people want the 20 steps ahead, or they're looking at the end goal. But it's really about those next steps. You've got to walk before you can run, so it's just such a beautiful
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Josephine McGrail: I absolutely loved it. And what I really love as well is that it's a collaboration. So it's such an empowering way to experience healing.
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Josephine McGrail: or even, you know, if you listeners out there, if the word healing feels scary or it's unknown to you, replace it by guidance, support even therapy, like just that thing of you're not alone in this. So not only is Nadia talking about Nadia holding the space and being sort of the conduit of just keeping everything really safe and sacred, almost cocooning you in energy.
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Josephine McGrail: but also that you know you know what I love about you, Naji, is that you're not telling your client, hey? You need to do, Xyz, and then everything will be perfect. We are really inquiring. We're getting curious together, and you are, you know, once you've you've placed, you know you've guided your client into that really nice relaxed state where we are more receptive, and we are able to then let your client actually talk from that higher space like right
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Josephine McGrail: So because I think so many people out there, you know. So there are people obviously like you and me, who are like totally in this world. And Yay can't get enough. But then there's also people that are kind of standing on the edge with dipping a toe in and going. I kind of want this. But I have so many limited belief systems. And I'm kind of scared about this whole experience. And I just think.
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Josephine McGrail: really, hearing those words that you know coming to you, they're not going to be told who they are and who they are not. It's really just sort of an unraveling of releasing the grip of the tightness that the gripping mind normally gets you into in all of the conditioned voices of everyone else in your life and other lives, but really allowing your true self to
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Josephine McGrail: And I think you know. So it's such an empowering experience. And I'm sitting here with my nice big mic on my podcast right, like this thing of reclaiming one's authentic voice right? And really hearing that. And that's just what I was really getting when you were talking just so soothing, gentle, and yet incredibly powerful experience the words that coming into my mind right now Naje, is like it's like you provide the space
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Josephine McGrail: To give permission to someone's higher self to step forward and take center stage for once right and that higher self has always been there. And so again. Not just sessions, or I'm really sorry to the listeners now, but in not just sessions. It's like it's not like, you know. It's not like you are not you. It's like Nadia's guiding her client to step forward and to remember who they've always been.
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Josephine McGrail: So it's a deep remembering, and it's a deep permission slip to grab that mic and actually speak your truth, and to just be heard really be heard being witnessed. Not being judged, not being told off or anything like that. So yeah, I mean, I'm just sitting here going. Oh, Nadia, I want a session. This sounds amazing.
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Nadia: And you know it's it's what I love as well is no one. No one will know you better than your higher self. And so, you know, whilst.
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Nadia: and you know, whilst you can get advice from other people, no one knows you better than your higher self. So why not just go straight to the source.
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Nadia: so logical, you know, when you have those moments where something seems so obvious. You think, how could I have missed this? That is so obvious, right? So they're often moments like that. And you know clients will often say, Oh, my gosh! Afterwards I said that, yeah, that makes so much sense. Why hadn't I thought of that before? You know, it's, you know, the answers, actually, yeah, often
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Josephine McGrail: No, I love that. It's like that saying, truth is symbol. Truth is not complicated when something is really true in you like you're talking about. You know this is resonating with me. That's your truth, that whatever it is you are listening to
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Josephine McGrail: that is resonating with your own truth, like truth is simple, it just makes sense, but it makes physical sense again, that full bodied. Yes, and it's so funny because we live in a world where you know, a lot of things outside of us like to overcomplicate things right? So it's like, Oh, but again, if we just go back to like almost all the different Scriptures across all different religions. And you know, wise people.
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Josephine McGrail: it's always the same thing as like, be like kids again, right? Like kids are quite in the end of the day. They're quite simple, they will tell you, if they like, and they will also tell you they don't like you. You know that that purity of just like oh, this is Yummy! Oh, no, that's bad, you know. It's just.
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Nadia: Yes, yes, and you know it's it's interesting. You say that, you know, when you said life is or things are often so simple, and they really are, you know, even going back to what we were talking about earlier with you know what I want to be when I grow up, or what is my life purpose? Or we always think
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Nadia: so simple, you know it's never. I've never had anyone, you know. Say, oh, I need to, you know, be the leader of some country, or colonize Mars or cure cancer. It's never anything grand. But I think as a society, we put
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Nadia: be successful, to have a purpose, you know. And it's really not. It really, really isn't. You know, a lot of the time people's purpose comes down to, you know, helping people, and actually doesn't even matter how they do it. It's about how they make people feel. It might be related to, you know, love, or, you know, sharing love or light.
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Nadia: I'm going to, you know, run a country or become a singer, famous singer, or you know the impact you can have on people, even just the people around you. And then the domino effect that then, has to the people around them, and so on and so on.
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Josephine McGrail: I loved it. And I think this I mean it's such a juicy thing you were just talking about. But I think this thing of like. It's also because we attach stories. Right? So if someone you know, someone comes to you or come to me. And they're like, Oh, you know, I used to love singing when I was younger, but you know I didn't make it into a professional singer, but I miss singing, and it's like, Well, you want to sing. So sing, you know it's we don't have to attach the famous and also or successful. And then
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Josephine McGrail: what is what? What is successful to you, is it? When 2 people come to your your concert? Is it in 2,000? You know it's like, it's the story we attach right. But the simplicity. The truth of the matter is, this person loves singing, and she used to do it when she was a kid. And then someone along the way told her that she wouldn't ever make money, wouldn't be successful doing it. But actually, the simple truth for her is, she has a voice.
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Josephine McGrail: and she loves sharing that voice, and that's actually her gift to humanity, right? And so so that
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Josephine McGrail: you're so right. It's that thing we overcomplicate it. We attach stories attach things that to measure that we are good enough somehow, right? Whereas it's like, actually, you enjoy doing that thing similar to going back to the 1st question I was asking you like long a little while ago, when you were like. I don't think we will ever truly know what we want to be in inverted commas. But what we can know and what we can dig into is
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Josephine McGrail: why we want to do a thing so for you and for me as well. My thing was always, and it sounds like the same for you.
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Josephine McGrail: I just wanted to help people. It was just really simple. Ever since I was a kid. I was like, I just I get. And personally, I get so much joy from helping others. It's and then I try lots of different things, and it was always I remember I walked down the street once, and because I was like, Okay, then I must be a ballerina. And then I trained at the Royal Danish ballet, and you know and then I must be. And you know this other thing, and all those things are beautiful. I still love dancing. But I was walking down the street one day, and I was like.
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Josephine McGrail: Josie, just do what you've always done like you're just here to spread joy. It's really simple. So and you do that, you know. So then my job is just I walk down the street, and I actually look at people, and I smile at the people I'm next to, and I have a little conversation, and that's kind of my job done like. It's so.
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Josephine McGrail: Basic, you know, and and and that thing of you know again about purpose like you said, it's not.
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Josephine McGrail: She loved singing because it brought her a lot of joy, and probably spread a lot of joy to those around her. Naturally like in her immediate environment, right? So actually, her intention was just joy like it was joy that was guiding it. And so, if we can go back to our intention, and let that be the fuel. Let that be the driving force. And yeah, life just flows a lot more smoothly, and all of that so I loved it. I love the simplicity amazing! Nadia.
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Nadia: And it's interesting as well. You know. I was just thinking when you when you were saying, you know, what do we want to be when we grow up. Well, I was just thinking who says we have to be anything, you know, like, that's the whole point. You know. We we don't have to be anything.
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Nadia: It's what we do. And I think it's more about how we live our lives. The impact we have on others not attaching a label and being something, you know. What does that even mean, you know, because you can be something in your environment in your world.
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Nadia: you know I don't cured some disease or had some other, you know, became the head of a law firm. All these things that people are doing. And I mean, look, of course, if people want to actually do that that makes them happy. I'm all for it. But the point I make is, I think we shouldn't be putting pressure on ourselves or on others to do or be certain things, you know. Just be a good person.
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Josephine McGrail: Nadia, where you at in your life now, so you are. You've got your gorgeous clients. You're still with your wonderful husband. You're in Melbourne. What is a typical day for you like.
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Nadia: Oh, there's probably no such thing as a typical day. Well, it depends on, I suppose, what I'm what I'm doing. I mean, I mean I do some admin like, you know, it could be seeing clients, it could be admin I do tarot readings as well. So I have those clients. It's a little bit of a little bit of everything, you know. But I like that. Yeah.
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Josephine McGrail: And I love. I love the flow. And I love that like very often things change very last minute, and I really loved it so. I love the spontaneity. And what I'm really joyful for about today is I love talking with you, and especially because you're using everything as symbols as well. So knowing that you do, Tarot, I do oracle readings as well. And it's just this thing of, you know allowing oneself to.
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Josephine McGrail: because again, for listeners out there who are like, Oh, but you know, if I get this card, does it mean? Xyz. Well, it's about what it symbolizes for you, for that person, right? And and you know, to live in a world where we start to to again walk with life. So I'm not outside, on top of planet Earth. We are in the earth.
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Josephine McGrail: and earth, and life is working with us and for us like. It's such a beautiful way to to explore life, and I also love what you said earlier on where you were talking about. I'm not set in any one way. I'm not sitting here going. Oh, you know, you're like, I actually really like listening to other people's opinions and perspective, and and having this beautiful.
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Josephine McGrail: You know it's just so wonderful. And my long story just to go around to sitting here going. I am curious, Nadia, would you share with us? What are you? What's your astrological signs? What's your moon? What's your sun?
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Nadia: What am I? I'm yeah, I do now. I've had a mind. But no, I'm an Aries son.
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Josephine McGrail: Oh, wow! Amazing. Okay. So you've got, I mean, so I'm a fire sign myself. I love a good fire sign. So I loved it. You've got the Aries as well, and then your moon was Gemini.
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Josephine McGrail: See? That's an air sign, right? So it's like air with fire. Those 2 like normally make even more fire. So it's super fiery, very amazing. And then you've got the Virgo rising right?
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Josephine McGrail: So the Virgo is is very sort of detail, orientated and goes very in depth. And he's actually one of I mean, I love a Virgo. I think it's such a beautiful archetype.
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Josephine McGrail: and it's so important that we have the virgos on this planet, even though it can be. I think I have a friend who's a Virgo, and for her, at times she can feel like she's quite a perfectionist, and she can be like. I can't get to the depth of this to her extent that she wants, but it's so beautiful to have them around. So you have all this fire. How do you personally relax yourself
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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, okay, I totally get that. And I'm exactly the same. And I.
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Josephine McGrail: Right totally, but I think it also relates back to the same thing, which is, it's actually one that I share with my clients a lot. So out of all of my many, many planets.
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Josephine McGrail: I think you can have. Well, obviously your whole horoscope is massive, but sort of out of the 12 main houses. 7 of mine are in Sagittarius, so I have fire with fire, with fire. But I think again it goes back to the same thing that we started talking about is that thing of like.
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Josephine McGrail: well, that's my authentic blueprint. And again, if I was a plant I would just be that plant, Everest blooming all the time, and and yeah, at times, that's a bit intense for me and for others. And you know, similar to you. It's like you've got a really inquisitive mind. And you, you know, that's also why, doing what you do, spend your time doing here and questioning everything
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Josephine McGrail: that's like as much as the times I'm sure you want to be like. Oh, my God! Can I just switch off? But in the end of the day it's such a gift to this planet, and also for you like you are going to be continuing to uncover and see things from 500 different perspective, where so many people go like, oh, things are just like this, and that's how it is, you know.
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Josephine McGrail: and that means you're always evolving. And your mind is always expanding which is so beautiful, my lovely, and because of time I want to take us into the direction of our gorgeous Christians. So
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Josephine McGrail: can I ask you, would you mind sharing? Obviously. Only if you feel like it, how old are you?
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Nadia: do the math. I'm very bad with age. How old am I? I am! What year are we? 25 born in 80. So I'm 43.
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Josephine McGrail: Okay, amazing. No, no, it's so fine. And thank you so much for sharing that because I'm sitting here. And I was like, you look so young. But then, the way you're talking I was trying to make it match, and I was like, I think we're similar in age. But I you know I couldn't. Quite okay. Fantastic. So with the wisdom that you sit in now, Nadia, with everything that life has guided you in and out of with everything you've you know all of the journeys you've taken, both in, inside and outside.
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Josephine McGrail: If you had just one or 2 soul messages for humanity, what would they be, and why.
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Nadia: Well, the 1st one that came to mind really was don't take anything seriously like, I know, that sounds like, you know, but really don't, because
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Nadia: the perspective of, and this might sound a little bit strange or morbid, but you know sometimes if I have something that upsets me, or whatever I tend to go, hang on, I'll pause, and I'll say, Okay, well, when I'm finished with this life, and I'm on the other side, and I'm looking back at my entire lifetime.
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Nadia: will that matter? And it really won't. And so I always just think. Yeah, don't take anything too seriously, because none of us get out of this life alive. And so, you know, just spend time doing what you enjoy and looking after people around you and making sure that you know you're always doing right by other people. And
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Nadia: yeah, I think that would be a big
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Nadia: big message, and something that I've actually learned even more over the years of
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Nadia: doing the the quantum hypnosis, because, you know, you see it time and time and time again with clients when they pass over from that past life, and they go to the other side and they review their life. You actually learn what matters and what doesn't, and what matters is the relationships that we had, how we made people feel?
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Nadia: You know the little arguments or the trophies and achievements.
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Nadia: They actually don't mean anything. So, you know, just enjoy life the best you can.
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Josephine McGrail: Oh, my God! I love that so much! And what I especially love is that obviously we I didn't know this about you. We obviously both share a love of you know. How can I put this without sounding morbid
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Josephine McGrail: carrying, holding, and inviting in death as a friend? I think because I do it all the time as well, because people go to me, and they're like, Oh, you're so great as you do this thing, and I'm like. No, I don't see it as courage. I just
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Josephine McGrail: death gives us so much perspective. It is such a beautiful thing, you know, and and that thing like you said what we, you know as the conscious mind, the rational mind, always want to zoom in on what appears to be lacking, or the problem, because we think that by zooming in we're going to get out of there having a brilliant idea. But actually, as we all know, we zoom in. And now we're too close to the problem that all we can see is the problem. We can't see any solution right? And so.
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Nadia: Exactly.
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Josephine McGrail: So what death does is death allows us to kind of zoom back out and go, hey, perspective. And like you said, you know, especially with your experience working, you know, daily with people talking about different lifetimes and talking about, you know, completely normalizing that it's not a matter of if we die. But when you know this is the one thing again, a common thing that actually connects us all.
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Josephine McGrail: not just to life, but also to one another. We live here for such a short time. We're here for split second, and we have no idea how long, how short, and again, that actually encourages even more to live
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Josephine McGrail: alive in, really like, in alignment with whatever we are on the inside, like, it's so beautiful. And that is also what death gives us, you know.
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Josephine McGrail: Oh, so I love this so much, and also like sorry. I know I was asking you for your message, and I'm sitting here juicing it out, but it just personally makes me so happy because it's.
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Josephine McGrail: you know. Another thing is so often, so often. We don't do something in life out of fear right? But if we break down, fear quite often, fear can also cover shame, and if we break down shame, then you know the ultimate shame. And the ultimate fear is actually that we're going to be alone, away from the group. And then, if we break that down and we go deeper, is that the even deeper level of debt is that
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Josephine McGrail: we are going to die. And so it's that thing of well, we're going to die anyway. Let's make friends with death. Death is a beautiful thing, so let it inspire you to not worry like you said like, let's spend less time zooming in on what appears to be the problem right here right now. And let's keep remembering that in those last
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Josephine McGrail: seconds of life, undeserved, or as we're passing over whatever people's beliefs are, I think you know. Let's open it up. But you know, those moments is we review our life. And again, so many people always talk about dead right. They see their life flashing through
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Josephine McGrail: in those last moments, and if you are so lucky that you, you know in those last moments you're surrounded by loved ones, or just one loved one. If you are so lucky to have that.
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Josephine McGrail: then you're not going to lie there and go. Oh, my God, did I, you know, did that thing get sorted, you know, or, thank God, I got that trophy. You're so right like what we're going to lie to is the feeling. It's the love that we carry for others is the relationships. It's the connections, whether it's animals or somewhere in nature or your family friends, whatever it is like, that's what we not just take with us but what carries us.
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Josephine McGrail: And so I'm so happy that you touched on that. And and actually it should have been the most obvious thing for us to talk about, because obviously parcel asked the question. But
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Josephine McGrail: absolutely beautiful, Nadia, I love that.
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Nadia: Yeah, yeah, I think that's yeah. The one thing I would say is, yeah, don't take anything seriously.
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Josephine McGrail: I always say just, you know, if if one has a loved one that passes over, I always go. What the dead can teach us about living. You know, when someone, when you lose someone all of a sudden in your life, whether they're close to you or far away. I think we all get this reminder of like Whoa, this is going to happen right? And and it's like, and again, it kind of like urges us like it can really it can be a springboard into more action on again.
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Josephine McGrail: Just you know of what matters.
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Josephine McGrail: But I think that thing of like people coming to you, and then remembering things from their past lives and gaining that perspective, and then again, can be a springboard to why they may want to choose differently in this lifetime. I certainly have. Actually, I want to tell you a brief story about me. If you have the time. Do you have time a little bit. We good, yeah, amazing. So I was 30 years old. And
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Josephine McGrail: one day I woke up and I had this really deep feeling. I had to go to Glastonbury to Avalon. I had done 0 research. I always highlight this. I always just follow what feels right. And so off I went to Glastonbury for my birthday, and next thing you know, I've been told by a friend. Go and see this incredible healer. It's a shamanic healer, and I called up the healing school, and it's a shamanic healing place.
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Josephine McGrail: and I spoke to a woman, and I was like is Jay there. I would love to have a session. I heard so much good about her, and there's a really long silence. And she's like, No, and I'm like, Okay, well, is Kestrel there. I've heard so much good about him, and I would love to have a session, and she's like
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Josephine McGrail: No, and then I'm like, will anyone be there, that's an extended long break, and she goes with a really tiny voice, I will.
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Josephine McGrail: And I was like, well, obviously you're the one for me. I'm super excited, can't wait to come and meet you.
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Josephine McGrail: So anyway, I go in. I have the session, Nadia.
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Josephine McGrail: I just you know I sort of signed up for a healing session, not Shamanic, because her name was Doris. She did a different modality, but you know gorgeous healing session, and I hardly ever have done any healing sessions in my life like, received them myself. By the way, I haven't done that many, but this time I felt like this is so right I need. This is this is just the right moment. So I went in, and I had always been very interested in past lives, but part of me had always been scared. Part of me had always been like
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Josephine McGrail: I think I was. I don't know. I was kind of worried that maybe I would find out something that I wouldn't be able to handle knowing, because I felt like, Oh, well, this lifetime is already hard enough, like there's so much going on that I'm trying to make my peace with. And then, if I also know about 500 lifetimes like that's too much to carry right? So I'd always been a bit scared, and so I hadn't asked her. I hadn't gone like, oh, you know, can you do some
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Josephine McGrail: past life regression? But it's actually what ended up happening. So I was sitting in this room with her, and all of a sudden.
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Josephine McGrail: you know, she put me into this beautiful, relaxed state.
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Josephine McGrail: and then the whole room, I mean. She didn't tell me this, but the whole room started spinning. My eyes were closed, the whole room started spinning.
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Josephine McGrail: and but I felt very safe with her. I never felt my body levitating, but my body started to levitate, and I kept going. Well, Jose, you can always open your eyes if you get too scared, you know, and I felt really safe. And then she started to take me back, and without going into details about my own past life. What really helped me so much is that I had a similar experience to you. Everything she shared with me. I'm getting goosebumps right now everything she shared
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Josephine McGrail: was literally like she had walked into my soul and had a cup of tea with her right, and but with so much love, with so much deep understanding. There was 0 judgment. It was just someone finally seeing me, and and which allowed me to see me as well. It was this beautiful thing. And and then, because I now knew at that point I knew that there were other lifetimes where
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Josephine McGrail: I had held myself back because I had been too scared to be seen, and also it was different times. As a woman it was very dangerous to be seen, and especially if you had any kind of like, you know, connection to nature, or could you could be deemed as a witch? And all of this? And and so here she was, and she was. She was just talking to my soul. She was like, you're a healer, Josie, and I was like I, you know, and this tiny voice in me was like, I know, but I'm too scared, you know, and because I now you know, fast forward, because I now at that point
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Josephine McGrail: was told that you had these abilities, and you did it to the best of your ability. But actually.
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Josephine McGrail: you kept sort of being behind a veil. You kept being in this big sort of palace thing, and then, you know, it really gave me this boost to go. I shall not let that happen in this lifetime. You know, this warrior woman came out at me. So
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Josephine McGrail: Personally, I, just wanted to share that it literally, pivoted my entire life, like, I've always done energy healing, but always on the side, and never really talked about it. My mom was also like, my mom is a healer, but she was like, We don't talk about it, you know, and all of a sudden I was screaming it from the rooftops, you know. So it it really was one of the most profound experiences of my life. So I deeply believe in what you do, and your.
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Josephine McGrail: you know, just from a you know, from my heart to yours, on a soul to soul level. Nadia, I just want to really thank you for stepping into this role in this lifetime and for providing this much needed support for everyone that comes into your life. So thank you.
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Nadia: No, you're welcome, and you know, I I really
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Nadia: really enjoy doing what I do, you know. In fact, I often say I don't really do anything, you know, because it's really the client and the clients higher self that's doing most of the work. You know. I'm holding the space for them, I'm allowing them to.
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Nadia: you know, really dive within themselves, get the answers from their own higher self, and I'm just guiding them on that process, you know. And so
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Nadia: they're the ones actually doing the majority of the work, really, although in the moment it's quite easy for them. And I suppose it's more work for me in the sense that you know I'm continually questioning, and, you know, getting the information, but really the the real work, the real healing. It comes from them. And so.
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Nadia: you know, it's it's just a beautiful
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Nadia: space to be in. It's a beautiful thing to be able to do for people to essentially empower them.
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Nadia: to be able to do that for themselves.
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Josephine McGrail: A 100%, a hundred percent. And I just wanted, like, you know, add on to that that again. That comes back to that thing of how you said when you found this, you know you when you had the experience yourself, and you started studying, and you were like this came so easy to me, and I think again, in society we often grow up with that, no pain, no gain, which can be like. Oh, well, if it's easy, you know, it's not right for me. It's not difficult enough. And it's like, No, actually, if it's really right for you, it's really easy, you know.
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Josephine McGrail: it resonates so deeply with me like it's like, I always tell everyone I'm like, I just sort of mentally step out of the way, and everything moves through me like it's not me. It's not Josephine sitting there orchestrating anything you know like. So I so agree. And again, that's that full body like, yes, this is for you.
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Josephine McGrail: Nadia. Thank you so much. It's been such a joy, such a pleasure to have you here and just. I will put everything in the show notes in terms of your bio, and where people can find you. But also please share with people right here right now, what's the best way for listeners to find you, and to somehow be involved with all of your gorgeous offerings.
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Nadia: Yeah. Yeah. Well, my Instagram handle. Is that what I call my Instagram handle is Qhht dot Australia, or my website, which is qhhtaustralia.com.au. They're probably the 2 easiest ways to find me
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Nadia: amazing. Thank you so much, Nadia. It's been such a joy I will just pause for now, thank you. Perfect.