#51 Rising of the White Dragon: Spiritual Alchemy with Canem

Canem is the creator and host of The Kotodama Podcast, a podcast dedicated to exploring spiritual, metaphysical, and psychological themes through meaningful conversations with extraordinary guests.
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Transcript

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Josephine McGrail: Well, welcome, welcome! We have today… it's a very special day. Not only am I sitting down with the host and the creator of the Kada Dharma podcast, the wonderful Janem, but also, it is the beginning of a brand new month. So there's something very special about today. We've also got the full moon coming up in Leo soon, so everything is heightened, everything is potent.

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Josephine McGrail: Janam and I met a few months ago, where you reached out to me, from your podcast, asking if I wanted to be on it, and I absolutely loved the time that we spent together. So, a few weeks back, when I was away in Bangkok, I was thinking, hmm, who should I invite next to my podcast?

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Josephine McGrail: And you popped up, and I was like, of course, of course, Jana Middles. So, without further ado, it is such a joy to sit down here with you today, and I really cannot wait to share Amazing You with my network, because I think, your story, which I know a bit about.

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Josephine McGrail: Will really be so pivotal in not only inspiring, but empowering people to live lives on their own.

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Josephine McGrail: So, welcoming to the podcast, Janem!

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Canem: Thank you so much, Josie, thank you so much! Yeah, I'm so honored to be here, and it's so lovely to see you again and talk to you. Thank you.

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Josephine McGrail: Amazing. And by the way, since I saw you last, have you had a fringe cut in?

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Canem: I always had a… actually, yeah, so I always had a fringe, but, like, I'm… it sometimes grows out, and then I take it away from my face, and then sometimes I cut it again.

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Josephine McGrail: And this is exactly what happened to me, and you know what's so funny? Because I am exactly the same, and exactly this morning, I was like, oh, it's time to cut it back in, because, you know, in Bangkok, like, a month away, but then I didn't have the time this morning. So anyway, I just… I love that we even have a… we share a fringe.

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Canem: We do, we do.

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Josephine McGrail: Don't ever.

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Canem: I love…

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Josephine McGrail: Yeah.

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Canem: Yeah, I love the fringe, I love the French. I feel like it is me, and sometimes… but sometimes I get tired of it, and then, yeah. But now I'm back with it, so, yeah.

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Josephine McGrail: Okay, I, let's jump back in time. So what I always do, in this space is

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Josephine McGrail: For me, it's really important for… in order for people to understand who you are today, and why you are who you are today, and everything that you stand for, everything you believe in, I always take people back in time so we can understand where you came from, how you started out in life, what influenced your life, and what influenced your choices.

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Josephine McGrail: So, let's go back in time, but before we do that, you're recording from Japan today, is that right?

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Canem: Yes, exactly, I live in Tokyo.

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Josephine McGrail: I love this! This is just… I mean, I love traveling, so for me, it's, you know, it's one of my greatest joys, like, this is also why Zoom is just the best, right? You know, the fact that we can globally be so interconnected, it's just like, yay! Like, my guest earlier this morning was from Poland, and, you know, I'm sitting here in London, it's just… yeah, this still makes sense.

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Canem: It's so cool.

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Josephine McGrail: It really…

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Canem: Yeah.

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Canem: I know you were in Bangkok the other day, I love Bangkok. Bangkok is amazing. I mean, yeah, Bangkok has also, like, a darker side that I don't really like, but the other side, the lighter side of it, the fun and beautiful and the softness… I look at countries often in, like, intuitively, collectively.

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Canem: And I like to, like… because I used to be a flight attendant, okay, I'm already starting to yap, but, like, I travel to many countries, so when I look at… I like to look at the collective energy in each country that I visit.

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Canem: And when I was in, when I was in Bangkok or in Thailand, it has this soft energy about it. Like, I don't know what it is, I just… I love it there. The people are so bright, and so smart, and so beautiful, and soft. So I always felt really, really great in Bangkok.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh my god, I totally resonate with that, and you know what's so funny is that Bangkok, on many levels, reminded me of Tokyo. I think even the fact that it has so many layers, not only in terms of people and lives, and like you talked about, the highs and the lows, the brightness and the darkness of the city, but also in terms of the actual physical layout of the city, right? You have, many things takes place on many different levels, even the

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Josephine McGrail: fact that you have the skywalk to get to the metro, right? You have the metro not just below ground, but also above ground, and there's… I feel a little bit like I'm in a video game, but I kind of really loved it. It was, you know, it's like I'm in a video game in Alice in Wonderland, anything is possible, and in a moment, the crazy rabbit is gonna jump out and take me down a rabbit hole. Like, it… Yes!

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Josephine McGrail: That kind of feel, right? It's, it's… it's weird.

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Canem: It's wild, but I… but I really loved it. But anyway, enough about… let's go back in time. So, Janam, where were you born, and what kind of… where were you born in terms of physicality, but also what kind of family structure were you born into?

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Canem: Yeah, so basically, I am… my name is Turkish, for everyone who wants to know why it's written with a C. But yeah, so I am Turkish, so I was born to Turkish parents, but in Germany, so I grew up in Germany.

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Canem: Which was a… wow, that was a big contrast and trauma already to grow up in Germany as a… as a, you know, considered minority and stuff. So, that was… that was, I'm really grateful for, you know, all the education and, you know, healthcare that Germany has, but it… it is… it was surely never for me, the country, and the people.

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Canem: But yeah, so my family is, like, an immigrant, working-class family, and so I grew up in a lot of, I would say, like,

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Canem: you know, my parents always tried their best, I want to say, you know, they always tried their best, but you know, that generation, I don't know, is it the boomer generation? I'm a millennial, so that generation, I feel like emotionally, they were not really, as evolved as we are now in our generation. I feel like the millennial generation will have

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Canem: much, you know, much more advanced when it comes to emotional intelligence. So, my parents always tried their best, but yeah, it was for sure a traumatizing experience, and, you know, everything, and, you know, a lot of racism as well in Germany, and

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Canem: So overall, I always felt like I don't belong there. And so when I was 15,

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Canem: I came across this documentary about Japanese geishas, which are, like, women of the arts who learn the art, like, music and dance and all that stuff, and conversation in Japanese culture, and I was like, I want to become a geisha. So I was, I was crazy already, and then I started learning Japanese.

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Canem: So it's not even the anime and the pop culture, which is great, but I'm just not interested much in that, but for me, it was always the language and the… so I kind of, like, had this, like.

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Canem: homesickness to a place that I've never been to, so that was really weird.

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Canem: I later found out I have a… one of my past lives, or parallel lives, because time is not linear, is actually in Japan, so that makes sense.

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Canem: But I felt super drawn to that country, and everybody in my life was like, no, you're not going. You know, Turkish parents are very overprotective, and, you know, it's like, they're very passionate and loving, but it was very restrictive for me. So I always tried to, break free and break away from that cultural kind of, like, grip.

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Canem: that the community has, and I have to say about my background, too, my family is Muslim, even though they're very liberal. They're very liberal Muslims, like, you wouldn't see them and think that they're Muslims, you know? No headscarves or anything like that, but very…

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Josephine McGrail: still, compared to me, which I consider myself an alien, they do… they were much more restrictive than I always wanted to be free, you know?

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Canem: So… so yeah, then I… I moved to, I did it anyways. I kind of got a, you know, I got a side job, and then I was like, I'm gonna do it anyways, and I was very rebellious, learned Japanese on the side, and then, you know, finished high school. I was like, I'm gonna go. And then I moved there alone at 19, and that was the best decision I've ever…

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Canem: made in my whole life. It was crazy, but yeah, led to a lot of things, and, you know, yeah.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh, well, I mean, I'm just gonna take a breath here.

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Josephine McGrail: such an awesome, amazing, challenging, heartbreaking, heart-moving, heart-making story already.

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Josephine McGrail: I just wanna ask again, so this thing of, at 15… at 15, you were introduced, or came across the geishas. Do you remember the exact moment? Like, do you remember where were you? Were you… okay, tell me about it, okay, so tell us.

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Canem: I do, actually. You know, that's really weird, now that you ask me that. I never thought about it, but I do remember, I was, like, laying on my bed, or sitting on my bed in my… in my room.

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Canem: And, yeah, I was just watching on YouTube, I just came across this video. I don't know if it was… I don't know why it came… I came across it, but I just ended up watching it, and I was so fascinated with the…

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Canem: how different the culture is, it's just so specific to Japan. I mean, anyone who's been to Japan will understand it's just nothing to compare with anything. And I grew up in two different cultures, right? Like, German and Turkish culture are very different, very…

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Canem: polarizing in different ways, but just so different again, right? Japanese culture's so different, so…

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Canem: Something about it just… yeah,

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Canem: really, really called to me, and I moved to Fukoka. So, Fukoka is, like, in the south of Japan. It's a beautiful city. Now, it's much more international. This is, like, 13 years ago, so it was very different than no foreigners, almost. So, I was actually an alien considered there. They actually called us aliens. That was really funny.

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Canem: But… but yeah, so… and I fell in love with the people. I immediately fell in love with the culture. I was like, this is my place. And weirdly enough, even though Japan is extremely restrictive as well, like, it has their own, you know, people live according to many rules.

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Canem: it, for me, always represented my freedom, because for me, I…

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Canem: broke free from wherever I was coming from, right? So for me, it always was a representation of my freedom, even though the country in and of itself

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Canem: is not really emotionally or, you know, in general, free or individualistic. Of course, there's always exceptions, but it is a very, actually, strict culture, too. So, it's funny how, for me.

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Canem: I found my freedom in this country, and I will forever be grateful to the people here, and the connections that I've made. And then, you know, I was here, and then I moved back to Germany again, and then I moved to the UK, and I think I told you about that too, but I lived in London for three and a half years.

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Canem: And then I moved to Dubai, and I became a flight attendant. I moved to Japan again, and then back. Like, a lot happened, but now I'm back here.

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Canem: And now I'm here to stay, and my partner is Japanese too, so… so yeah, that's, that's that, and I feel really great here. I love… I love it. I don't wanna… yeah.

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Josephine McGrail: And I just want to share as well, like, the listeners out there, if they're not watching the YouTube, but if you're just listening, what's really awesome is that, Janam, I mean, obviously you don't have the white face, but otherwise you look… I mean, you look… you're so beautiful, but you have this, like, your beautiful, like, shiny black, black hair, you've got the gorgeous eyeliner, the dark brown eyes, you are literally like a… you are like a gay job.

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Josephine McGrail: But, you say, you know, it's just really funny that you're there, because I was just, like, calling, and I'm like, you look like one, you know, it's…

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Josephine McGrail: Amazing, I love it. Tell us a little bit about this whole thing. So you went over there at 19 by yourself.

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Josephine McGrail: Were you there? Did you go, to study? Like, how did you… how did you convince your parents?

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Canem: I didn't, like, I was just always so rebellious. I always tell people, never listen to your parents. Now, as a 31-year-old, I can say that with my chest, never ever listen to your parents, like…

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Canem: Except, they are the people who you look up to, and they are the happiest, and you want to be like them. Then listen to your parents.

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Canem: But if you have a dream, if you have something that you want to do, or something that just feels right to you, do not listen to your parents. I mean, I never listened to them. It was war. I was like, I'm going. They were like, no, I was like, I am, so you either support me.

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Canem: And we're gonna have, like, a, you know, a great relationship while I'm over there.

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Canem: Or, you're not gonna support me, and then we're not gonna talk, but I'm still gonna be there. Like, you know, I was like… I was like that. And at the end of the day, I was 19, so…

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Canem: they did end up supporting me in the end, and I think that argument that I just told you about, like, the… I'm gonna do it anyways, was the thing that, in the end, really…

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Canem: actually convince them, and you know, the funny thing is now, years later, and I, you know, I did a lot of healing, I love the shamanic soul retrieval, all the healing, we can go into that too, but, you know,

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Canem: they changed a lot, my parents changed a lot, and I think a lot of that as well, especially their…

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Canem: That generation that's now in their 60s or so, they…

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Canem: you know, I think something's come in age anyways, with wisdom and understanding that, you know, maybe the protection that you thought

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Canem: was good actually was restrictive, and I think they agree with me now, and they actually say that, me going to Japan was the best thing that I have done, and they are very proud of me, and they love me, and we have a much, much, much better relationship now. So, I think it's part of, I don't know, becoming an adult. Did you feel that way as well with your parents?

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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, I'm sure you're right about that, that of course, you know, when we are true to our own path.

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Josephine McGrail: regardless of, even if on the outlook of it, it can feel as if we're hurting someone, right? It's always that thing, if you're living authentically to your own soul's truth.

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Josephine McGrail: it will have rippling effects. So you know how you mentioned, you said, they changed a lot. They changed a lot because you changed a lot. You know, we hold frets, we are so interconnected, so when you change, they shift. When they shift, you shift. It's never just a one-way, like, thing. It's always… we're so interconnected, we're so interwoven. And I think that thing of you also mentioning about the change in

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Josephine McGrail: generations, your parents, as well as mine, although I'm older than you.

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Josephine McGrail: my parents and your parents would have been brought up by… by parents that lived through the wars, right? They were brought up by parents that lived through the wars. They were… their childhood compared to my childhood and your childhood would have been very, very different, right? I remember my mom always telling me about her mother, i.e. my grandmother.

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Josephine McGrail: you know, my mom grew up… did not grow up with her own parents. She grew up with her great-grandparents. It was such a different time, you know?

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Josephine McGrail: my mom's parents would have been thrilled just to be alive, right? And so, they had… their idea of even sort of nourishing and looking after their kids.

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Josephine McGrail: or being there emotionally for their kids was unheard of. It was just, wow, you are alive, let's go live your life, eat chocolate, travel, like, you know, like, boom, boom, boom, more, more, right? And my grandmother, my mom's mom, she kind of just…

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Josephine McGrail: I mean, you know, she loved my mom and her son, but she always said, like, don't have kids, like, just, you know, she was like, I don't want to be… she wanted to be free. She did not want to be tied down by anything. She did not want a man, she wanted many men, she wanted many of everything. She wanted to really live life to the fullest, so I think my own…

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Canem: Hello?

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Josephine McGrail: parents grew up, or at least my mom did, really longing for a family, longing for someone to be there. And it's so interesting, because then my mom had me. And then, you know, she wanted, okay, I have my daughter now, I have my son, and my mom really wanted us to be there, like, kind of what you're describing, let's keep the kids at home, you know, let's really hone in, and let's have that family, and that they themselves perhaps didn't experience in

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Josephine McGrail: the same way. I don't know about your upbringing, and then I, just like you, was like, let me get out of here! So, you know, we always, of course, as a humanity, as a species, we are always

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Josephine McGrail: evolving, all of us, right? And when you shift, I shift, and when you…

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Josephine McGrail: When you allow yourself, when it is important for your soul to come into this lifetime, and to spend time asking oneself, who the fuck am I, right? And why am I like this, right? When you start asking those questions and everything, that whole Pandora's box that you open up.

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Josephine McGrail: Of course, it's gonna shift how you feel, how you reflect, how you see life, how you feel life, how you analyze.

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Josephine McGrail: And that will have an immediate effect.

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Josephine McGrail: on your parents and everyone else. And so, when you're asking me if I felt that, yes, I did. Absolutely. And this thing of really saying in my own truth, even if it feels…

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Josephine McGrail: ex… you know, I was really questioning…

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Josephine McGrail: Am I doing the right thing here? Not by moving to London, like, I did that at 16 by myself, and yes, I knew. I knew because I saw it was heartbreaking for everyone, and of course, there was a part of me that felt…

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Josephine McGrail: There was a part of me that felt deeply guilty. I felt like I was hurting them. But then there was another part which was much bigger, much bigger than my ego. And the other part was going, this is your life. Like, you are here to live.

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Josephine McGrail: And if you are not living your own truth, who the fuck are you, right? And so, like you said, exactly, like, I'm just echoing that thing of… and also to listeners out there.

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Josephine McGrail: It's not that thing that sometimes you have to do what could feel like the wrong thing to do the right thing, but it kind of is. You know, if this is your truth.

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Josephine McGrail: even if in the moment, your surroundings will go like, no, upheaval, don't do it, right? And like you said, like, well-meaning parents, well-meaning tutors, mentors, even well-meaning partners can go, please don't do this, right? But if you know in your bones

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Josephine McGrail: that this is the way for you, or that there is more here for you, there's a bigger dream here for you, then you have to follow and honor that. So, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Janam, across all spaces. Absolutely, yes.

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Canem: Yeah, exactly, and what you said is so interesting with your grandmother, because same with my mom's mother.

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Canem: She was a… she came to Germany to work.

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Canem: and left my mother as a child in Turkey, and that was normal at the time, so absolutely abandonment issues, you know, I think, going on there in many generations. Same thing. And then my mom was like, oh, I will never leave my children. Like, I want to be a stay-at-home mom. And, like, so it's interesting, right? Like, yeah, it's the same thing. So, you know, maybe different, different, background, but same, similar thing, so…

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Canem: But, absolutely, and I had always people ask me, even at the time, and even still now, like, why are you so brave, or where do you take the bravery from to go to a completely different continent?

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Canem: Honestly, it didn't feel to me that scary.

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Canem: Because I wanted it so badly, but at the same time, I always tell people.

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Canem: I think that brave people we still… I consider myself brave, I do, and I don't think that I…

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Canem: don't feel the fear. I think I feel the fear, and I still move forward with the fear. So it's not like I'm abandoning myself, pushing myself away, bulldozing my emotions. It's like I feel them, I know that I'm scared, but I know this feels right in my heart, so I will do it anyways. And this is, I think, what makes brave people brave, and what I see in you as well, and what I see in many

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Canem: of these inspiring people. I mean, not that I'm one of those people, but still, I feel that in my

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Canem: even now with the podcast, which is, like, my… my biggest passion project at the moment, and I love it, it…

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Canem: almost was even scarier to me than moving across to, because now I'm opening myself up to the internet.

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Canem: Like, hello? You know, I know this is, you know, people on the internet can be very weird, and, you know, being anonymous, and people write things that are mean, and it's just… you open up yourself so vulnerably, like we both are doing right now, you do that all the time with your podcast, with your clients, with your YouTube, with your social media.

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Canem: And it is really… that's actually much more scary to me, but again, I feel very brave in it, I feel like I want to do it, I see a mission there. Obviously, spiritual awakening is happening everywhere on the planet so much right now.

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Canem: More than, you know, when I had my first spiritual awakening, like, full on. I think I was 22 at the time, but the times have changed. I feel like now it's happening so rapidly, and people are waking up, and I feel like people need guidance more than ever.

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Canem: to be like, okay, you know what? I don't care if people think I'm crazy with what I'm saying, I know what rings true to my heart, I know what has worked for me, the healing that has worked for me, the wisdom and the knowledge I have. And actually, the past weeks, I've been going through this thing where I…

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Canem: realize I am a teacher, I'm here to teach people about this as well. And the podcast is obviously one of the things I want to do.

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Canem: And I am doing, but I want to do many, many more things, so I'm opening myself up more now to many more possibilities, and also, you know, thinking about going into the intuitive readings, because, you know, I'm reading tarot for many years, but never… I mean, I have done it for… as a business a little bit when I was, you know, a few years ago, but now I'm thinking of doing that kind of stuff more, and, like, intuitive readings, and helping just people

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Canem: I guess, and that's the bigger mission with my podcast as well, even though I have sometimes people on who are not really in the spiritual field, but where I think their story is…

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Canem: So people who have something amazing to tell that… where I feel like this conversation, even if it's just one person who…

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Canem: you know, it will do something for them. I am very proud of that, if that… if it helps anybody. So, that's kind of my mission there. I do really believe in, like, the ripple effect. I don't know if we talked about that, actually, on my thing, but I really believe in the ripple effect. So, even if you touch one person, right?

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Canem: that one person can move other 20 or, you know, 100 people in their lives. It's like, we have to all do this now. I think it's almost like a necessity now to wake up, actually.

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Josephine McGrail: I love that. I think there's so much here. I love to use the words, remember, so it's, because it is a waking up, but I think for some people, hearing the word wake up can feel as if

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Josephine McGrail: where they are, who they are, is there something really wrong, you know, or that they're supposed to wake up to something they don't know about, whereas remembrance is just a, hey.

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Josephine McGrail: this is who you are, you already know! You were just told a lie, you know? But I, you know, so there's that, and then I also think this thing of.

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Josephine McGrail: And it's part of the human brain, right? You know, in the end of the day, we're very primitive on so many levels. We're so primitive that the brain will always go…

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Josephine McGrail: it loves what it knows, even if what it knows isn't serving itself or anyone else, right? The ego, the part of the brain that is just very primitive, is only there to keep us alive, and so it will do everything it can to protect that, right? Like, this is the structure, this is your identity, this is who we are, this is who we are not. That group over there, oh no, you know, all of that. The ego wants separation, because then it thinks it's safe.

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Josephine McGrail: people are gonna judge you anyway. So you may sort of judge for who the… for who you truly are, for who you truly are, instead of being judged for someone you never were in the first place. You didn't want to be! That makes no… that's insanity, right? And like you said, this thing of.

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Josephine McGrail: And I know it's scary, I'm not saying it's easy, but I'm saying, not only is it necessary, I'm saying it's the only thing. It's the only thing that makes sense to do. Like, it's the only thing, because…

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Josephine McGrail: you know, I always feel like we end up talking about death, but like, you know, we die all the time, and it's not a matter of if, but when, and so why live a life that was never truly yours? Like, live life

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Josephine McGrail: so courageous, the same way that you're sharing, you're like, okay, you know, I did on the physical plane, look at me, you know, like, not look at me, but look on the physical plane, your story at 19, so powerful, so rebellious, so, okay, mom and dad, sending you all the love, but this is who I am. So you're in, you're either in, you're either with me and we can have a relationship, or you are not. And either way, I will love you and respect you, but this is who I am, right?

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Josephine McGrail: And by you standing in your own truth, like you said, It, it gave them permission

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Josephine McGrail: of their soul's individual journey, right? And then also this thing of how you're sharing now, like, I know I'm here to be a teacher. I know I'm here to talk about spirituality, and how you're saying part of me was like, okay, I've moved to all these different countries, and that I, you know, that I was okay, but scary, but I did it anyway. This thing of now fully online, on social media, on fucking everything, allowing the world to see that this is who I am, right?

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Josephine McGrail: That feels kind of like I'm naked, like, right?

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Josephine McGrail: I get you, but it's… I really get you, I really get you. But again, that thing of, you know, we don't teach anyone anything. Like, what we do…

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Josephine McGrail: this is… I have a desire, I have… I have a knowing, what's standing in the way of me actually trying to pursue it, walk it, speak it, be it. And when we meet that resistance within ourselves, we're like, oh no! There's a part of me that's resisting this? What if I… what if this? What if that is like this? But what if I, like you said, what if I… what if me being fully me, and that's all I need to be, if me being fully me.

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Josephine McGrail: me, Inspire and empower just one other person on this planet.

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Josephine McGrail: To be fully there, just as you did with your parents. You already did. Not teaching… not teaching by a lifted… lifted finger.

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Canem: crazy that you're saying that, like, you literally just telepathically connected with me, because I was gonna say the same thing. Like, recently, I really came… like, I landed on this thing of… that is the teaching, right? That is the inspiration, is to be fully me, and you being fully you, and how can we embody that? And I actually think now.

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Canem: And that is just everything. And yeah, so I really feel that as well. By the way, when I watch your content on social media, like, the other day I watched a video of you just, like, dancing around. I watched the whole thing, I was like, I love her, she's so cool. Like, I want to be more free like that, too. So it inspires me. See, just that video, maybe for you it was easy, maybe it wasn't, whatever it was, the way… it's like an art form, right?

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Canem: And I'm like, I want to be more free like that. I want to… I know you're a dancer, right? And I'm not, whatever that means, but I feel like everybody's a dancer, everybody's an artist, everybody's a whatever, a speaker, or whatever people do, right? So, I just was so inspired by that. So, yeah, it is… that's what I mean by, you know, like, yeah. And,

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Canem: Yeah, so it's been… it's been such a journey, and I feel so much… I'm still, you know, again, I'm still a small channel and everything, but the amount of fulfillment I get from the podcast, and my amazing guests…

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Canem: like, obviously, like, yourself and other people I've had on, I'm like, these people are amazing, and I have the opportunity here to sit with them for one hour. Obviously, I do it for the podcast, too, but I obviously do it for myself, too. Like, I have the opportunity to sit with them for one hour, have this amazing conversation, learn so much. Sometimes, after these

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Canem: wow, I would have never met this person if I haven't just… if I wouldn't have just done this step, you know? And I needed someone, actually, and I had a friend.

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Canem: I have a friend here in, Tokyo. He has his own podcast too, but he does more, like, AI business and all that stuff. He's an entrepreneur.

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Canem: And I told him, you know, I want to have a podcast, but I feel so ashamed, like, who am I to have a podcast? Like, nobody wants to… maybe nobody wants to listen. And he was like, you have to start immediately, come on, let's go. And he knew he had to push me, and he was like, I know you're gonna start doing it, but before you do yours, let me push you, let me help you out by inviting you onto mine.

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Canem: And he invited me as a guest onto his before I even started.

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Canem: So… and you know what? I think that episode still didn't… it wasn't published yet, but that push is what I needed, right? Like, sometimes we need that push from friends, we need that inspiration, so I'm, yeah, just eternally grateful for that.

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Josephine McGrail: No, I love that so much, and thank you so much for sharing that, and I am, like, in my own life, of course also with what I share with clients and stuff, but again, I only share what I live. And so, in my own life, I always ask myself, because I feel like we've all lived many lives in this one lifetime as well, right? You know, we've had different identities, different jobs, different relationships, we've lived in different countries.

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Josephine McGrail: You know, like, we are always, always in a state of becoming, and that's a really beautiful thing. And so, when we're in this state of becoming, you know, again, because the ego of the mind is always like, hey, this is your parameters, these are the things you are allowed to be, have, experience, achieve, feel.

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Josephine McGrail: And then anything outside of that parameter is, like, unknown territory, right? And the ego's like, oh, we're scared, right? And so… so I always ask myself, okay, Josie, so if you took fear away, whatever that fear is, if you took the fear away.

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Josephine McGrail: what would you do? And this was, like, going back, you know, because, you know, I only started my own podcast about a year ago, and about a year ago, I was, I was in my home here in London.

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Josephine McGrail: And… sorry for the detail, but for some reason it's important, I was coming out of the shower. Sorry, now you all have a weird image of me, but anyway, I'm coming out of the shower, and in the shower, because that's where I have my best ideas, I had this thought. I was like.

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Josephine McGrail: what would I do, what would I do if I really didn't think about, you know, how to make money, how to, you know, kind of sense of responsibility, because I have clients that come to me for XYZ, if I just took all of that away, all the stories.

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Josephine McGrail: Of who I should be as a person. If I take all of that away, What would I do?

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Josephine McGrail: And I was like, I would sit and drink tea and speak to interesting people.

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Josephine McGrail: that's basically it. Now here we are, I'm drinking tea and water, speaking to you people, right? But you know what I mean? And that's why I wanted to share that with you, because I think, you know, this, you know.

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Josephine McGrail: When you have this inspiration in your heart, because again, if we go back to being kids, right? That's a state in our life where we feel the most alive. It's a state in our life where we feel the most alive, and what I mean by that is it is before we start being so terribly inhabited by all these ideas about who we are and who we are not, what's possible for us, what's not possible for us, right? So as kids, if Janem and Joseph were, you know, like, 2-year-olds, little toddlers.

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Josephine McGrail: we would be moved by movement, we would be moved by emotions, we would be moved by instinct, we would be moved because, like, oh my god, it's sunny, let's go outside, or it's raining, let's dance in the rain, right? We wouldn't stand there and go, oh, we probably shouldn't dance in the rain, because what if someone judges us in our rain outfits? Or, you know, like, we would just… we would, like, the joy of being alive would be what fueled us, right? And so…

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Josephine McGrail: again, this thing of, like, you saying, I kind of really want to have this podcast, and your friend just going, come on, we're doing it right now. Like, he has you to cut through.

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Josephine McGrail: the noise of the ego, right? The noise of society, the noise of all the messages you received as a child, young person about who you are and who you are not. So it's so beautiful that you, you know, you listened to your friend, and you jumped on that wagon. I love it.

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Canem: Yeah, thank you, and you know what? I know why you had to say the shower thing, because that was literally spirit, like, giving you a nudge, because I actually have been doing lately, you know, the quantum jumping in the shower? Have you heard about that?

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Josephine McGrail: but talk to us! I love it!

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Canem: I love the… By the way, same thing, if I… I think about that often, by the way, before I go into the shower thing. What would I do if I had all the money

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Canem: with interesting people, record it, put it on the internet, like, that was always a thing that I… because I often… the reason is I often have these amazing conversations with wonderful people everywhere. I go to a bar or something, I talk to someone, I go to a meetup with someone, I just… strangers talk to me. Whatever happens, like, I have the most amazing conversations with these

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Canem: So that's what… yeah, so that's what, at one point, I was like, oh my god, I have to have a podcast, so that's how it all happened. But yeah, with the shower thing, that's so cool, because I love manifestation, conscious manifestation, meditation, all these things. Quantum jumping is so interesting to me, and I've done it a few times consciously.

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Canem: although I think we all do it all the time, which is to really, like, collapse time and space and, like, embody a new version of yourself, and just be in that reality. And they say that in the shower, it's easier to quantum shift, because you can kind of, like, you know, energetically wash yourself clean, decide in that moment, or you can even say it out loud, once I come out of the shower, I'm gonna

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Canem: And it works so well.

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Canem: Like, this is amazing. I always like to, like, pick and choose, you know, the tools for all of these things, like healing modalities, manifestation tools, and now with amazing guests like you, you know, that I had on my podcast, or other people, I always get inspired by, you know, the way that these, you know, all these people are teaching.

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Canem: And I kind of pick and choose. So that shower thing is super cool, and I feel like you had that moment, you know? Whether you were, like, consciously doing it or not, but I feel like you quantum shifted into that, right?

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Josephine McGrail: 100%, and actually something else that I also want to share, two things, obviously, about the shower thing. So, showers usually happens first thing in the morning for a lot of people, right? And so, when you're in that morning energy, you're still in the beta waves, which means your brain is more receptive to new possibilities, and that's actually all we want to do. We want to prolong that state where the brain is receptive

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Josephine McGrail: to new possibilities, because again, when we get into the alpha state, which is after we've been awake for not very long, once we're in the alpha state, it's much more like, we're not sure this is possible, right? You know, we are like, oh, but if they judge us, right? You know, all that kind of stuff. Or when you're in the shower,

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Josephine McGrail: Sending love ahead into your day is another amazing thing, just sending love ahead into your day, because you notice, first thing when you wake up, you might feel really good, but then, like, it… I sometimes… I can… I can sense a sense of density of life, and it feels as if I wake up, and I have this, like, anything is possible mindset, like, my whole brain, my whole being feels like the universe, but then within very few minutes.

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Josephine McGrail: like, I can sense the walls that my ego has created in this is my matric reality start to, like, draw in, and I have to very quickly, like, effortlessly, I'm using these swimming movements, I'm like, no!

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Josephine McGrail: into the shower, and then in the shower, I'm literally just, I'm doing mantras, I'm doing, like.

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Josephine McGrail: you know, why are these amazing things happening? Like, I quite often, so I work with my own brain in that sense, and I go, okay, I know early hours in the morning is a good time to, like… I'm on a, you know, a metaphysical level, on a neuroscientific level, I am more open, more receptive to new ideas about what is possible, what isn't. And so, in that shower, like you said, we have the water, which is cleansing our field.

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Josephine McGrail: Because what is really interesting is the brain has no way of arguing, right? So then the brain is like, oh, well, it's because of this, or like, why, you know, so choose statements that you kind of already agree with. You know, if, you know…

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Josephine McGrail: your brain is always going to chew on something, so you might as well give it… give it something to chew on. It already has decided it likes, because then it will give you more. And so you're in that shower, and let's say, Janam, you had an amazing experience, and you know, maybe we can go into that, you know, the whole experience of meeting your now partner, right? So you can go, why was it such a perfect time to meet him, or why… why will… why…

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Josephine McGrail: Why was I so receptive to meeting someone at that moment in my life? What was going on within me? Why am I a person that can move to different countries and set herself up in really grounding ways? Because now you're asking your brain to work with you and for you. You are instructing your brain for what information, what data you want it to be looking for.

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Canem: Yeah, it's kind of like… because I love affirmations as well, but of course we have, like, resistance, right? Like, sometimes we can have resistance. I do believe you can kind of push through that, but I don't really like doing that, so I do the same thing. I like to work with my brain, with my…

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Canem: I guess with my limiting beliefs that I have, so asking a question is what you just described, is actually so intelligent, so smart, because your brain

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Canem: is always looking for the answer, so…

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Canem: Even if you feel, let's say, even if you feel ugly a day, that day or whatever, but you can say.

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Canem: why am I so beautiful today? Like, your brain will not argue, it will look for the answers. Immediately, it will look for, well, maybe because maybe, like, I don't know, it's so crazy. It happens, like, subconsciously. It's so powerful. So I do that all the… actually, every day. I do that multiple times.

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Josephine McGrail: I'm so happy we had the chat, because this is, like, Jaden, it feels like such a trick, but it is the best thing ever, because your ego… the ego wants to give you evidence for why you are, why you feel, why you're having the experience you're having, because then again, the ego feels in charge, right? And so, you know exactly like you said, let's say you're feeling sad that day, and you're walking down the street. Instead of…

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Josephine McGrail: you know, it would be great to be in a space where we can just allow ourselves to be like, I just feel sad. The end. It's okay. You know, just the same way, I just feel happy, it's okay, the end. But the ego will always be like, I'm gonna give you 500 reasons for why you feel sad today. So, in that capacity, being able to put something, to plant something in there, like you said, if you're not feeling beautiful, look at yourself in the mirror, and don't just go, I am beautiful, because

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Josephine McGrail: at times that can feel really contrasting. If you're having a very intense day, your whole body can be like, no, right? But if you're going, why am I? You know, it's just so interesting. Then the ego, the mind, whatever you want to call it, will just give you evidence of why that is so. It doesn't act… like, using that why is super powerful. Anyway, let's go back to how you met your partner. Will you share that with us?

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Canem: Actually, that was… that was a… when I was a… yeah, that's interesting, and you said the timing, yeah, because I was a flight attendant at the time, so I wasn't looking for a partner, to be honest with you, and that's how it happens, right? Zero resistance, I wasn't looking, we met online.

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Canem: But, you know, I had flights to Japan, I met him, you know, more times, and then I was here for a vacation or something, I think it was my 30th… oh, what was I doing? I don't know, I think it was my birthday or something.

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Canem: And so I said no four times. I don't know why he didn't give up. Thank God he didn't give up, so… and then the fifth time was the… was the time that I said yes, and I realized I'm actually in love with him, and we had this whole New Year's thing together, and in Japan, when it's the new year, you go to a temple, and you kind of pray for the new year, and you…

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Canem: So I'm super happy that… how that happened. But I always say to people who are in interracial relationships, or intercultural, or anything, actually any relationship, because the world is so international at the moment, do not assume that there is any common sense. There's zero common sense in the world.

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Canem: and they don't know anything what you mean. So this is my tip for any relationship communication and, like, being on the same page with your partner, is you're probably not. So this is amazing, as a woman specifically, telling your needs directly. So not just saying, I want you to be romantic, right? Like, what does that mean? Like, no, just say, I want you to sometimes buy me flowers, because I really like flowers. Sometimes means, yeah, see, the white rose is amazing.

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Canem: means this to me. I do not like this. What do you think about this? Honestly, communication, I don't know who needs to hear this in relationships specifically with people from a different culture.

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Canem: assume there is no common sense. As an ex-cabin crew, ex-flight attendant, I can tell you there's zero common sense. There is zero, like…

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Canem: cultural… I think they call it cultural relativity. I learned a lot about that when I was traveling the world. What we think is good or bad means nothing in a different culture, means nothing in a different place, so it's important to always state and, yeah, state that stuff. So, that's how it works with us, and it works really beautifully, and I'm really grateful for him, so yeah.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh my god, I love this so much, and also, you know I'm also engaged, and you know my partner is half Chinese, half American, right? So it's really interesting you're saying this thing about the cultural thing, right? So first of all, not only do we have the difference between men and women already, right? You know, very different. Women, we feel it through the body, everything is through the body, it's felt, it's at home, it's with the heart. Men are very different, they…

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Josephine McGrail: But also, I almost think about it, I like talking about fairy tales, so you know in the fairy tale.

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Josephine McGrail: In order for the prince to win the princess, right? Let's just go super basic, this is what we were taught as kids, right? He must go through 3 different trials. Now, the trials are not these kind of, like, you know, mysterious something. Usually, they're quite specific.

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Josephine McGrail: you will bring back a dragon. It's not bring back any animal, or like, I would like a gift, it's a dragon, right? You know? You'll bring back a dragon, you will bring back the lost key from, you know, the country on the other side of the mountain, right? Like, it's very specific.

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Josephine McGrail: Give those 3, or however many it is, be super specific. And just because, you know, just… so, for instance, with the flower thing, because, you know, you can see my white roses, they are from Cal, right? But when we first started going out, I don't know how it came about, but it was something like, oh yeah, I love flowers, and I remember he made a really silly comment about, yeah, you're not gonna get them from me. Like, some really stupid thing, right? He said something very silly.

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Josephine McGrail: And I could have felt really offended. And I turned around, and I was like, I've just given you the exact key to my happiness and my heart. Why would you not just buy me flowers sometimes?

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Josephine McGrail: And he was like, he was like, oh, I'm so sorry. He said, I had an experience with a woman once who saw flowers as, you know, oh, you can just buy me love. So for her, it was not a cool thing.

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Josephine McGrail: And I was like, no, no, for me, this symbolizes to me that you really care about me, and I love that. So now, you know, weekly, I get flowers. So it's… but, you know, if we hadn't had that conversation.

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Josephine McGrail: we would probably, I mean, this is a small example, we probably wouldn't be together, right? We have to be so clear, so I love this thing that you're saying, you know, like, really just see the other person as an alien, and .

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Josephine McGrail: And really speak your… speak your dreams and speak your needs, in super specific, like, you know, if you're someone who likes to text the other person, don't just go, oh, I wish we were more in touch. No! What day, what time, how much? Like, get really.

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Canem: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I love that you did that immediately in that moment. That's the best thing, by the way. If you notice something in a person that, even if you're dating, but you want something more serious, it's really smart to bring it up in that moment, and in a very kind way, you don't have to be…

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Canem: convey it in a way that's still polite. That's what I like doing, like, hey, when you say this thing, it makes me feel like this, because I feel like this about flowers, and I actually feel like that, so I love how you immediately communicated that, perfect, because also we have to honor the trauma in our partners, right? They have been through relationships themselves as well, just like we did, so I think it's really cool to kind of acknowledge that, and then be like, yeah.

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Canem: But I'm different, though. Now you're with me, and I like this thing, you know? So yeah, it's… it's… and you know what? Why I was laughing? I have to tell you this, because you… you brought up the dragon. Okay, so this is crazy. You are so psychic, Josie. It's crazy. Like, I'm sure people tell you that all the time, but you are incredibly psychic, because…

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Canem: My partner, I believe now, I have come to the conclusion… I don't know what people may think about this, but I've come to the conclusion that my partner is a dragon incarnate.

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Canem: And so I've been really connecting to the dragon energy, and that's been so beautiful, and I've never even believed in dragons, or… I always thought it was just mythology. I never thought too deeply about it. I am a psychic, but I am like a… I would say I'm a skeptic psychic in a way that… not that I…

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Canem: I'm very whimsy, and I can… I believe, actually, in many, many different things that many people might not believe in, but what I mean by that is, when I just heard about dragons, I never thought they were real, but I realized recently they are very real, and they have actually been, like, calling, I think, a lot of people lately because of what's happening in the world. I don't know if you've…

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Josephine McGrail: Yes, so this is, like, so on point, and it's so beautiful, because I, and I want to share this as well, this is going back, I think, about… I feel like about maybe two… two and a half years ago? About two and a half years ago, all of a sudden.

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Josephine McGrail: and I like to say, again, for listeners out there, this is not to… you know, no fear of judgment, but for listeners out there, I want you to stay open-minded to what you're about to hear, because

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Josephine McGrail: everything in life, this is how I see it, everything is symbolic, and everything, you know, everything is presented to us when and if our mind is open, and we are ready. We are ready to receive the information in a way that is grounded, and in a way that our nervous system and our whole being will accept. And so.

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Josephine McGrail: kind of similarly to when you're talking to different psychic people, different saints, different whoever you are into, right? When they describe an experience they had, or what you call an awakening, or some kind of miracle moment, quite often.

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Josephine McGrail: the… what we can call a divine being, or a spirit animal, or a spirit being, or a guardian angel, or anything that we perceive as if being from a different reality will normally present themselves to us in a way that we can accept. We are willing and ready to accept. And I'm sharing this, so again, so listeners out there, even if you're like, like, please don't be… please don't be turned off by the word dragon.

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Josephine McGrail: But, because everything comes as an energy, right? You know, your podcast is called Kodama, right? So, the words, the words create our reality, right? Is that sim… yeah, similar to Abracadabra. As I speak, I create. Everything holds energy, right? And so, about two and a half years ago, long introduction, I was sitting on the bus in London, and this email popped up, and it's from an incredible, beautiful, actually Japanese.

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Josephine McGrail: a shamanic healer, and she was talking about, I've been working with dragons for a long time, I'm giving this dragon talk, and something within me, like, my whole body was like…

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Josephine McGrail: like, almost like an exhale, an inhale and an exhale, an inhale because I was excited, I was like, tell me more, I want more, this is it, like, there was a resonance. There was a physical resonance with the dragons, and then, just like you, my rational brain, my skeptical ego was like, what the fuck? Dragons, Josie? Right? And I'm even laughing now, right? And it was so interesting to meet my own edge, right?

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Josephine McGrail: I also had an itch. It was like, I was like, yes, yes, guardian angels, I can feel them, I can hear them. My great-grandmother, who passed over in spirit, yes, I can feel them, I can hear them. I'm with clients, I get these visions. This is all good. And then I also had this itch of, like, hmm, what about the dragon, right? But I heard it, and I was like, yeah, but this is right. Like, this is… this feels deeply true. And so then I started reading, and

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Josephine McGrail: And then the point is, fast-forwarding in time, so I've been working… we work with the frequencies. Everything in life is a sound. Everything is a sound. We like to see it as a shape, but it's a sound, right? Before anything else, big bang, there was sound, right? So everything is a frequency. When the different frequencies will come to you at different times. When you feel an attraction to someone, on some level, there's a frequency, there's a resonance. It's like a whole

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Josephine McGrail: bodies are harmonizing, right? Hence why it's also funny that both you and I are drawn to podcasts, not only because what we talk about, but the sound that we make, right? It's a really important time on this planet in time to make sounds, because through the sound, we're actually helping to heal ourself and humanity. So when the dragons come, they come as a frequency, and they came to me as they're coming to you.

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Josephine McGrail: as they're coming to everyone who is open and willing. And so for listeners out there, again, if you're noticing that, you know, you're really inspired by dragons, or inspired by anything that's coming up for you, it's coming up for you because you're ready and willing to receive the healing energy that they bring for you. And then, side note to that, to the dragons.

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Josephine McGrail: We were in Bangkok, as you know. Now, this is really amazing. We're in Bangkok, we're staying in this beautiful, very, very tall building with, you know, floor-to-ceiling glass everywhere, incredible view of old Bangkok. So we're in the city center of Bangkok, we're in this very modern building, really high up, so it feels like a sanctuary. We're in this, like, I love being high up, so it feels like I'm on a mountain.

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Josephine McGrail: And then we're looking over the valley of old Bangkok, and I kept telling Carl, I was like.

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Josephine McGrail: I feel so privileged, because we get to be in the heart of old Bangkok. We're overlooking all these old Bangkok houses, but with the, you know.

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Josephine McGrail: with the sanctuary and the peacefulness of being so high up, and of course, everything is modern and, you know, all of that. But anyway, we went downstairs, and we finally woke into the very old streets of Bangkok, and right below our highs, like, literally directly below.

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Josephine McGrail: With two white dragons. Now, these two white dragons, and this little spirit house, right? A place of offering, worship. If it's a part of the Bangkok busy markets, if it's part of, like, the flowers and the plants and the, you know, the vegetables and the fish and all of it.

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Josephine McGrail: But right below our apartment, not on the corner, not on the other side, not on the other side of the… you know, right below, like, literally a straight line.

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Josephine McGrail: these two white dragons were holding this energy, because I… and I kept… I was getting goosebumps, because…

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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, again, from around two and a half years ago, for me, personally, it's a white dragon. It's white dragons, and they keep coming, so the… right, white! And, you know, and did you ever watch Never Ending Story as a kid? I don't know, but that's a white dragon.

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Josephine McGrail: like dragon honey. And so, I was like, yeah, so anyway, this is a personal story, but I just wanted to share, yes.

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Canem: No, it's so beautiful, and I have never… I mean, of course, I have watched some movies and some fantasy books, but it's not like I've ever paid attention to dragons, to be honest with you. It was just never my thing.

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Canem: on social media, I mean, I don't know her personally, but I know of her, and I love her content. She also talks about a white dragon specifically, so I think there's something going on. Whatever it is, whatever people may think, I don't even care anymore about being judged, but for me, it's just so beautiful, and I've been… I learned, so what I… what I've been getting into more and more lately, as well as obviously my own psychic powers, and, like, my own, I guess, my gifts, and my… I go into meditation.

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Canem: basically channeled, yeah, these dragons all the time now, and it's just been… wow. The way they are holding down the Earth, they can manipulate the weather. This is all from my own experience. I don't know what is written about them. I actually try not to look it up, and not to be too influenced, because I want to really be clear in my own channeling on what's coming through.

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Canem: from my understanding, and yeah, it's been… it's been wonderful. So I think, like, part of it as well is to awaken my own…

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Josephine McGrail: I really think so, and I think there's also, I mean, so for me, the dragon is… is actually half snake.

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Josephine McGrail: and half… and half sea creature, right? So… and then also half birds. So you've got… but I keep doing this thing with my arm, like a wave, like the Aquarius, right? So… so you've got this movement of water, and you've also got that… the originality dating back to the snake, and all of this is actually the divine feminine principle. And so I think, very much, when the dragons come, there is an inner rising.

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Josephine McGrail: a reclaiming of the divine feminine principle within you and within all of us, right? Right, exactly. So I think there is…

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Josephine McGrail: again, we see in the outer world a reflection of what's going on in our inner world, so we only see what we are ready to see. So when that comes to you, again, it is a reclaiming, it is a remembering, or as you would say, a reawakening, right? A reawakening to your own

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Josephine McGrail: not your soul's truth, but it searches to the truth of all there is, and so I… yeah, yeah, exactly. So for me, I'm so happy that you said that, and it's funny as well, because just today, Yumiko, so this amazing Japanese, Japanese shamanikila, sent out an email, and she's giving a talk tonight.

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Josephine McGrail: I'll share the link with you, Jan. It's a free talk, so if you… if you feel called to join, you can join. But it's just… it's just really funny that you… you brought it up just today, because I have not… I've not heard from Yumiko, directly for a very long time, so this is just, you know, everything is perfectly aligned, yeah.

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Canem: Yeah, the synchronicities are crazy. By the way, I don't know if you knew, but since I put this… obviously, you know, I have a day job, and so I kind of, like, don't let all of this out in the day job, but I'm like.

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Canem: because all of my colleagues are Japanese, so I'm like, guys, I'm recently quite interested in dragon lore in Japan, so how is that? I don't go too deep into, you know, I'm channeling these entities, but, my… one of my Japanese colleagues was like, yeah, so actually in Japanese mythology, the koi fish

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Canem: the fish or the snakes. And it's interesting, because from our Western perspective, snakes are kind of looked at as bad animals or whatever, but in Japan, not at all. It's not considered a bad animal at all. But also, snakes, become,

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Canem: dragons. So that's also why they have a different shape, right, in the Asian mythology. It's just interesting. Wow, the… yeah, please send me that.

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Josephine McGrail: But it makes sense because, again, you know, a little bit of history, but, you know, in the pagan society, right, so Christianity came, and again, this is not… I'm not saying anything against Christians, but the Christian church came, and they saw the myths, the legends that people were living by, right? The natural legends that people were living by, and a lot of it was around

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Josephine McGrail: worshipping the Divine Feminine, worshipping Mother Earth, Gaia, as a woman, right? Not above man, but as equal to man, right? And then the Christian church came in, and they were like, well, they've already got this legend, they've already got the celebration on this day, we're just gonna change the story. And what they did was… so then you see a lot of the, a lot of the old stories became about killing, slaying the dragon, or slaying

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Josephine McGrail: the snake. The snake was also the one that tempted Eve out of paradise, right? But actually, when we go back.

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Josephine McGrail: The ribble, the water, the snake is the ribble, it's the water, it's the divine feminine, it's the intuitive, it's the spaciousness, it's the felt.

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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, so… so there's so… I mean, there's so many levels and all of that, but I just wanted to share that. So, and I love the thing, exactly like you shared about the fish.

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Josephine McGrail: having the ability, this particular fish, to swim up against the waterfall and become the dragon. So it's the ultimate Phoenis rising, right? You know, meeting the depth within oneself.

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Josephine McGrail: And rising through it. Not power over, but power with and power through, right? So, it's just so beautiful on all levels.

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Canem: Absolutely, and just to connect to that, what you said with the femininity as well, absolutely true. And I feel like lately, what's been happening on the planet is, like, the feminine rising, and specifically what I mean is, feminine being…

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Canem: the heart center, masculine being the mental mind center. Both is important, both is beautiful, but in our world right now, we are very much out of alignment with our heart center. So right now, I think it is really about women taking

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Canem: taking back that power in their heart center and helping the masculine as well to connect with the heart. And you know what? I was thinking while you were explaining that? There's this old, I think it's a South American proverb.

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Josephine McGrail: The job of a woman is to lead a man back to his heart, and the job of a man.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh my god, it resonates so much. I'm getting goosebumps as you're talking, Janim. So, it's so true. What you just said is so true. And it's also this thing, I think, you know, like.

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Josephine McGrail: again, this is not about, you know, this is about gender inclusion, nothing else. But this thing of, we live in a world, if we were all, if we all had the ability

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Josephine McGrail: to really tune into our heart, there would be no wars. How could you kill another when you realize the other is you?

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Josephine McGrail: Right?

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Canem: Yeah, connection. Beautiful. Love, yeah.

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Josephine McGrail: You know, the mind and the heart, the man and the woman, and that's also… if you are in same-sex relationships, you know, there's still one of you that is more in the masculine, more in the feminine, so it's the same thing here, right? It's, you know, it's always… we need all, not just one, right? Every time we notice within us a sense of separation.

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Josephine McGrail: A sense of judgment within ourself.

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Josephine McGrail: We have to keep bringing it in, yeah. Oh, wow.

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Canem: Oh, that was beautiful.

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Josephine McGrail: Boss and Dragons, let's… I'm just realizing time. This is so insane how quickly time.

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Canem: Yes.

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Josephine McGrail: Jenim, this is amazing! Now.

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Canem: This was so fun.

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Josephine McGrail: Just absolutely amazing. Now, I always do this thing, because I could do, like, a 5-hour podcast with you, but anyway, let's not forget, we can always go back for another round. I want to ask you, Jenna,

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Josephine McGrail: I always do this with people. If you had just one or two soul messages for humanity, with the wisdom that you sit in today, with all of the experiences that life has given you and that your soul has chosen to reincarnate into in this lifetime today.

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Josephine McGrail: What would those soul messages, be?

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Canem: So, immediately what comes to mind is what I'm learning lately, which is… I guess a lot of people have heard this before, but I just really want to put this out there again, that

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Canem: instead of looking outside of yourself, I think

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Canem: for all of humanity, especially right now with what we're going through with AI, and you kind of don't know anymore what's real, what's not, what does that even mean, what is real, what's not, it's all about coming back to your heart center, coming back to yourself.

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Canem: And looking within. Does this feel true to me? Does this feel right to me? Does this feel real to me?

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Canem: does this feel… yeah, just write to me, is this me? And so that's something that I have been practicing lately, every day, actually. And I hope that, you know, whoever's listening, that's one thing that I think we need to do more and more now, more than ever.

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Canem: And you can actually apply this with anything. You know, when you're in conversation with someone, you know, how does my heart feel? How do I feel, actually, about this person? Or you read something, does this ring true? You listen to a podcast, how does it… how do I feel listening to this?

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Canem: again, it's the heart center of what we talked about earlier, but it's also going within instead of without, even though the without, the outside, always gives us input. It's all about connecting it to your heart and to your own truth. So that's something I think I want to share with people that's just…

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Canem: Been a big thing for me lately.

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Josephine McGrail: So, yeah. I love that so much, and

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Josephine McGrail: what a powerful, really powerful, really incredibly useful tool, especially for this time and age, because I always say, you know, our mind has an agenda of its own.

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Josephine McGrail: You know, the ego will always tell… the ego will only show you what you already… what you already do. Your ego will never want you to get out of your comfort zone, right? So your ego, your mind, has its own agenda. It needs to be used in a… in a wise way, the way that you don't just let Google do its own searching, right? You know, you'll be shown all sorts of things.

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Josephine McGrail: But your heart.

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Josephine McGrail: Your heart has only one agenda, and the agenda is not only to keep you alive, it's to keep you in love with living your life. Your heart is always in full cheerleading mode. It wants what's best, not just for your soul, but for the soul of humanity, and so, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, like, using this tool of go within and notice how this makes you feel. Is this me? Is this real?

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Josephine McGrail: for me.

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Josephine McGrail: Right? Because the only thing that is real is what we… the only thing that matters is what we bring meaning to, the only thing… what is true, what we… what we decide to hold meaning to, right? So I… yeah, so I… I really, really love that. Wow, Janam, powerful words! Oh, so good. Thank you so much.

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Canem: Thank you.

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Josephine McGrail: And I know I'll put links in the show notes, but tell us already now, where can people find you? Where can people listen to you?

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Canem: So, yeah, please, you can… you guys can find me on YouTube, The Kotodama Podcast, and,

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Canem: Also, I just want to say, just a plug real quick, I actually want to offer free intuitive readings right now, like, free intuitive card readings for a few people, anyone who wants one. I just do it in exchange for a testimonial, so if you guys could give me a feedback, anyone who's interested, maybe someone who's listening until the end right now, just maybe drop a comment, like, free reading or something in the… under the video.

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Canem: And I'll get in touch with you, that would be amazing. And, yeah, also I'm on Instagram as well, the Kotodama Podcast, I'm gonna, yeah, I think you're gonna plug it. And then, yeah. Thank you so much, Josie, I loved being your guest.

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Josephine McGrail: So nice. Thank you so much, and thank you so much, listeners. Hope you have an amazing rest of your Sunday. Goodbye.