#52 Limitless- Dont Chase, Elevate & Attract

Welcome to the debut of Limitless with Michael & Josie, a special series where Josephine McGrail and Michael Koltes dive into the "bite-sized" universal truths that shape our lives. In this inaugural episode, they explore a powerful shift in perspective: moving away from the exhausting hustle of "chasing" and into the magnetic power of "attracting."

Drawing from their parallel lives as performers and healers, Josie and Michael discuss how to cultivate your inner garden so that the "butterflies" of opportunity find you naturally. Michael shares a raw, honest story of being on a film set in China with an empty bank account and how a shift from scarcity to trust changed everything. Meanwhile, Josie breaks down the energetics of alignment—explaining why we must understand our own unique design before we can truly thrive.

In this soulful session, you’ll discover:

• The Garden Metaphor: Why digging up your seeds to check on them (chasing) actually prevents your life from blooming.
• Human Design Insights: How being a Projector vs. a Manifesting Generator changes the way you should interact with the world.
• The "Why" Trick: A simple linguistic tool to rewire your brain to look for evidence of health, wealth, and safety.
• Energy Boosters: Practical steps to identify the people, places, and activities that naturally elevate your frequency.

This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey of breaking through limited belief systems. Tune in to learn how to stop running and start radiating.

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Transcript

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Josephine McGrail: So, welcoming to the podcast, a gorgeous, wonderful person who's already been on. In fact, you were on just this week, Michael Koulter, sitting down with my amazing

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Josephine McGrail: So last time we were in Bangkok together, and currently we are here tuning in from London and China. And I just wanna… well, we want to just have a brief chat with you listeners, just going, so why another one? And really, I think it's this thing that…

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Josephine McGrail: you know, you and I, we met each other so many years ago, and then we've kind of had these, in a way, parallel lives, you know, we're both performers, right? And going into this… and not even going into, always had this…

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Josephine McGrail: Energetic, energy healing perspective, spiritual perspective, and how can we embody that and live that in a grounded, actionable way, right?

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Josephine McGrail: And then, you know, we had such a great time the other week doing that podcast in Bangkok, and we were texting, and we were both like, hey! It feels like there's more here, you know? And so, long story short, we decided to create this session called Limitless with Michael and Josie, and today is the first one. So, Michael, over to you!

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Michael Koltes: Here we are. Yes,

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Michael Koltes: Where to start? Well, I guess, I guess we want to talk about what we're gonna do in this.

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Michael Koltes: I have this… I've been writing this book, and Josephine's also written a book. It's kind of a similar thing, you know, talking about parallel lives. You've actually put your book out, what's it called?

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Josephine McGrail: So I have 3 books, one is called… It's alright, don't Worry, The Morning.

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Michael Koltes: First one.

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Josephine McGrail: The first one was called The Morning Miracle, and similar to yours, it takes, it has 30 different topics, and each topic is kind of a world, a universe of its own. It's kind of a food, a food, a centering thought for the day, and similar to yours, right, which I know you have, is it 58 chapters or something like that?

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Michael Koltes: It's getting… well, no, I have 54 now, I'm building it. I know, I wrote another one this morning, so it's, it's started up again.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh, I love this! Yeah, so we were like, you know, you were sharing with me, hey Josie.

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Josephine McGrail: I'm writing this book, it's been… it's been a project, an ongoing, developing project, a soup in the making for a while, but… but the concepts, the topics are, I guess, in… well, not, I guess, they're universal, it's something everyone can relate to, and just were like, wow, there's so much here, there's so much good stuff here.

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Josephine McGrail: And so, instead of, you know, just having another podcast about Michael, which would be wonderful, we were like, hey, let's share these amazing, Food for Thoughts, little inspiration bubbles.

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Josephine McGrail: Things that we've both experienced throughout our life, in the hope that you guys, you listeners out there, will really be able to see it in your own lives, feel it in your own life, and essentially just know that you're not alone in whatever experience you're having, you know, whether that's a fun moment or a difficult moment, right?

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Michael Koltes: Yeah, hopefully it'll help you out in your challenging times, or great times.

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Michael Koltes: Anyway, so my book is called Bite Sized, and it's 54 chapters now. It's the same principle as Josephine's.

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Michael Koltes: Where it's, like, a chapter, you know, you read it per day, basically. Like, I'm aiming for 100, so I still have a while to go. Maybe by the end of the year, I'll have it done. But, I think it's good for a podcast, because each of these is, like.

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Michael Koltes: connected topic, but they're all in the same vein, you know, all about, like, our daily lives and self-improvement and, you know,

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Michael Koltes: little things and experiences that I'm sure we've all been through. And today, we're gonna kick it off, and we're gonna talk about

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Michael Koltes: Attracting, you know, and not chasing.

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Josephine McGrail: Exactly.

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Michael Koltes: I couldn't… Yeah.

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Michael Koltes: we've all had a very… I've had a very busy, because I've got my album coming out, on Sunday, so I've been running around like a headless chicken today, trying to set up the shop and getting all these orders out and stuff, because people are ordering the album, thank God. And, so I haven't actually had a chance to re-read the

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Michael Koltes: the… the chapter, so… but I think…

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Michael Koltes: We pretty much all know what we're gonna talk about.

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Josephine McGrail: Absolutely, and I also think, you know, I think that's the beauty, right? You know, life happens, and life is hap…

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Josephine McGrail: life is built from everyday moments, and that really is what our, you know, us getting together, creating these limitless episodes. It's a reminder to everyone that

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Josephine McGrail: you know, what you do in the everyday is how you do everything. And so, these are just principles to feel inspired by. So, your chapter was called, I think it was called Chase… no, Don't Chase, Attract, and I just want to add in that don't Chase.

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Josephine McGrail: elevate and attract. So, instead of, instead of chasing, meaning always being in the doing mode, always thinking that I have to work harder, I have to achieve more, I have to hustle more, I have to be on more, right? Instead of having that external expression, this kind of quite limited belief system that unless I'm constantly producing.

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Josephine McGrail: I'm not going to be able to reap the rewards, reap the seeds that I'm hoping to produce, right?

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Josephine McGrail: And… and is also very much… it's a very busy bee. It's kind of what society teaches us. But instead, there's just this wonderful thing of, like.

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Josephine McGrail: you know, don't chase… I'm gonna give you a quote, don't chase butterflies. Instead, create a beautiful garden. Let the butterflies find you. So instead of being so busy, looking everywhere outside of ourself.

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Josephine McGrail: How can we come back to our own center? How can we rebuild ourself from the inside out?

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Josephine McGrail: And then, you know, come what may, so almost, you know, letting go of attachment to outcome, but bringing the attention inwards to the only thing we can actually ever really control, which is our own self, right? So as in…

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Josephine McGrail: How do you, you know, if you know that you're gonna feel great from doing a workout, make sure you do your workout. Prioritize that before anything else. It's just really basic principles. So we'll get into, you know, some things that Michael do, some things that I do, and hopefully it'll be a really inspirational episode. But yay! Kicking off with our first limitless.

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Michael Koltes: Oh.

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Josephine McGrail: and Josie.

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Michael Koltes: Yeah, I mean, also, I think on these podcasts, we're gonna be doing other things as well, like, sometimes I might sing a song, you know? Because I'm writing a lot of songs, and I just thought, you know, that'd be cool. If there's a song that relates to some of the topics, we'll do that, and Josephine will do some other things, you know? So, the episodes will be all kinds of things, so it's not just gonna be talking, you know? This one, because it's an introductory one.

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Michael Koltes: It will be more just, like, going over a few things, but we'll get into our first topic, obviously, but in the future, we'll definitely be adding some other things.

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Josephine McGrail: Absolutely. I mean, also in the whole theme of Limitless, right? So it's about thinking outside of the box. It's about questioning and reframing our own limited belief systems, which we all have. So, you know, it's a nev… you know, being alive, being a human being is a never-ending story, right? So even when you feel like, oh, things are going good, like, I feel good, I feel healthy, I feel inspired, you'll still meet an edge within yourself. Something will pop up, and you'll go.

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Josephine McGrail: oh my god, I actually have these limited beliefs that I'm a person who can do this, or I'm a person that can receive this, produce this, whatever. We all have them. So these sessions are all about just going, oh my god, yes, we can have an amazing singer singing his beautiful songs at the same time as doing a, hey, here's some food for thought, right? So even the way that we are

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Josephine McGrail: creating this together is limitless. And so, yeah, I love that. And also, everything in life is

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Josephine McGrail: I was saving people, because I teach a lot of yoga, and people are always like, oh, what do you teach? I'm like, I don't teach. I don't think we can actually teach people anything. That would be like me giving, putting something on top of you, but I can embody it. And so, through our experience here today.

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Josephine McGrail: It's really just our hope that it inspires you listeners out there to think outside the box, and to notice

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Josephine McGrail: Your own limited belief systems, and whenever you notice an etch.

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Josephine McGrail: can we move through that? Can we… can we break some of those limitations? So, kicking that out today, Michael, tell us a little bit about… maybe give us an example of an experience in your life where you noticed you were chasing something, and how it felt in your body, and why it wasn't working. Yeah, maybe some of those things, yeah.

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Michael Koltes: I mean, this can apply to a lot of things. I don't know also if you're familiar with human design, I'm sure you are, but…

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Michael Koltes: I'm a projector, which… projectors are supposed to wait for things and wait for invitations, so it's…

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Michael Koltes: It's like a heightened version of patience needed in this thing, which has tested me a lot, you know, because everyone around me is like, oh, you gotta take action, you gotta do stuff, but to be honest, like.

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Michael Koltes: if I look at the majority of good jobs, good friendships, good relationships in my life, they came to me, you know, when I wasn't trying to find them. You know, and this is… this is the point, I think, that we're talking about today, you know, like.

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Michael Koltes: Sometimes you have to make a little bit of an effort just to sort of, I guess, tell the universe, you know, this is what I'm interested in, but you have to… you have to sort of let it out of your hands, like, you can't control the outcome, and to be honest, we never know what actually is the best for us.

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Michael Koltes: So instead of always stressing out about the how, or, you know, I want that thing, you know, like.

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Michael Koltes: chances are, there's something that's 10 times better for you out there, and this is something that I've been thinking about a lot lately, you know, like, I've noticed, like, some of these old jobs that I've been doing that have…

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Michael Koltes: I wasn't happy doing them. They've all felt like they've been kind of, like, in a rut, and, you know, like.

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Michael Koltes: I've stressed out on a lot of them and stuff like that, but they've sort of been falling away recently, and it's got me thinking, you know, it's like.

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Michael Koltes: maybe it's just because I'm not supposed to do them. There's something…

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Michael Koltes: so much better, and if I look at it, like, in the time that these things have fallen away, it's given me time to finish my album, you know, and now I have an album, you know? And it's building for something better in the future, you know? And a lot of times, we can get stressed out about the… what's happening right now, you know?

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Michael Koltes: I'm not doing anything, I don't have any job, I don't, you know, I don't have any relationship, and all that, but at the end of the day, sometimes you just have to take a breath and go, I'll be okay. I've been okay this whole time. You know, I've… I've lived my life.

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Michael Koltes: I've not starved, I'm okay, you know? There's been a lot of situations, even this one time.

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Michael Koltes: I'll tell you, I was actually…

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Michael Koltes: I went onto this film set in China, it was this really massive film during COVID, and I got to the hotel, and…

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Michael Koltes: you know, I just, like, paid my rent, and then I got called to the film set, and then I tried to order something on, like, delivery, you know, Deliveroo, whatever, the Chinese version, and said, you have no money. And I was like, what? I have no money! But…

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Michael Koltes: you know, and my first reaction was like, oh shit, you know, I'm fucked. But then, I started to think about this more carefully, and I'm like, actually, I'm fine, I literally just paid all my bills, I'm on a film set, you know, I'm working.

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Michael Koltes: I'm getting… even though, you know, like, the payment is maybe in 2 weeks, I'm getting 3 meals a day, I have a place to stay, everything is okay, you know? And then by the time I finished that, I had 10,000 bucks, you know? So it was just like…

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Michael Koltes: you know, we are taken care of, even though you do get down to the wire, maybe sometimes, you know, but you're still alive. We're still alive, we're still here. You know, so we have a purpose, we have a reason that we're here, and sometimes we gotta take that stress out of it and just…

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Michael Koltes: You know, tell ourselves.

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Michael Koltes: we're alright. We've been alright, we've survived all these different challenges and obstacles in life, and we will be okay.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh my god, I love that. Let's take a breath, inhale.

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Josephine McGrail: And exhale.

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Josephine McGrail: Because there's so much in there, and the breath is so nice, because the breath just allows us to feel everything a little bit more, right? I love all of this. You touched upon so many things, and thank you for sharing your own journey so much. I think this is, like, one of the most…

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Josephine McGrail: You know, this is one of the most valuable things we can gift people, is really our honest lived experience, because that's also what we relate to, and it's what we see and find and feel ourself in. So, I can relate to that so much, and I'm sure so many people out there listening can relate to that too, whether they, again, whether you are an actor, whatever, you know, however your life situation is, but that thing of going.

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Josephine McGrail: You know, something out of your control happens, and it's so easy for the brain to just

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Josephine McGrail: over-analyze, over-criticize, getting stuck in that, all the things that feels as if it's lacking, or which is evidence of you failing, or somehow not being enough, or, oh, I might, you know, like you said, that thing of, hang on, I've stayed alive, I've managed to actually keep myself alive up until this point, so there's pretty good chances that I'.

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Michael Koltes: stay alive. Oh, good stuff!

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Josephine McGrail: I'll continue to stay alive, and I love that you touched on that, because it's such, I always call it, you know, it's… it dates back, it goes back to…

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Josephine McGrail: how we actually sense, and, you know, how our own personal relationship with life itself, right? Because it's really easy to get caught up in all the stories of how life should look, could look, all of that, but in the end of the day.

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Josephine McGrail: we're guaranteed nothing, and so the fact that you're still breathing, we're hearing the Zoom, it's happening.

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Josephine McGrail: Things are pretty good, like, let's just…

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Josephine McGrail: Let's remove all of the crazy thoughts and the 500 ideas about who I should be, could be, ought to be.

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Josephine McGrail: And if we just go back to basics and go, well, we are live right now, and like you said, the fact that you were able to pull yourself out of that kind of scarcity, fearing, fearful mindset, and go, let me just take a moment, take a breath, and notice the things that actually are working in my life right now, right?

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Josephine McGrail: Having that ability is super important. I want to go back to the fame, so you started out saying, who you are in human design, right? So I'm a manifesting generator, so slightly different from you.

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Josephine McGrail: But what I, what I want to share about that for listeners is whether you're into human design or not, what you're touching upon, Michael, is super important. Different things are gonna work for different people.

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Josephine McGrail: You know, saying, alright, and this is suck, like, if we just start there at the basis, and when we're talking about this whole concept of, you know, don't chase, elevate, attract.

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Josephine McGrail: different things that are gonna work for different people. So you were mentioning, for you personally, you're actually someone where you're like, whoa! Because I am this personality that actually needs to really, through lived experience, you are a person that have developed a deep sense of patience.

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Josephine McGrail: Patience with life, patience with things coming together, patience with yourself, right?

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Josephine McGrail: And that, over time, has built the trust within yourself and within life that, yeah, I am someone where, you know, not that you're on the backseat, you absolutely take action, I mean, you're one of the most hardworking people I know, but it's a very different approach.

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Josephine McGrail: because I'm a generator, and again, whether or not you know about human design, I am someone that actually… I need feedback from my environment. So I, and again, you know, I'm an expert, I'm an ex-dancer.

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Josephine McGrail: I very much need to be out there. That doesn't mean I'm out there everywhere all the time, but I kind of… I literally… I feel my environment. You know, you can see me right now, Michael, I'm, like, moving back and forth with that mic, right?

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Michael Koltes: environment over there.

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Josephine McGrail: I'm like, me and the pod, right?

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Michael Koltes: I know.

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Josephine McGrail: Like, I'm physically sensing it, and if I'm not out there doing that, so if I took a more, you know, obviously as a generator, I still need to take aligned action, I just can't… I can't just be everywhere all the time, which is what I used to do when I was younger, and I was completely burned out.

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Josephine McGrail: It needs to be in alignment with my goals, with my dreams, all of that. But I do need to be out there quite a lot, because otherwise I can't actually sense

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Josephine McGrail: what is… what is… I can't sense and feel the opportunity, so that's a slightly different approach. So, step number one, in order to, elevate, attract, and not chase, step number one is

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Josephine McGrail: Know what works for you.

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Josephine McGrail: Are you a person that needs to be out there? Are you a person that really… that understands more about themselves through talking to others? Are you someone that, I need to be in a city to realize I crave the countryside? You know, like, you do everything very much from a sensory experience, or are you someone that…

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Josephine McGrail: that really restores, rejuvenates, recharges a lot in their own space, and really needs that almost, like, cave time. I'm not saying that you're a cave person, but, you know, like, step number one is understand who you are.

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Josephine McGrail: And what really, you know, what… when you look back over your life, when has…

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Josephine McGrail: the most amazing opportunities come your way. Did they come because, you know, you were trying new things, or did they come because you actually took a step back and just were like, I'm just gonna get really excited about this one new activity, you know, or this one thing that I like to do?

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Michael Koltes: Enjoy my life, Bill.

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Josephine McGrail: Right, yeah, exactly. And then that thing of…

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Josephine McGrail: I like to relate everything to nature, so I always see, like, you know, nature never judges itself. So a tree is gonna continue to grow. It does never go, like.

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Josephine McGrail: well, I'm only gonna be 1 meter tall, because I don't want the other trees to be jealous and not like me, because now they're jealous of me, right? Like, a tree is going to grow as much as it's gonna grow. The end. And also, so, the same thing, you know.

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Josephine McGrail: if we… if you have a dream, whatever that dream is, it could be something… let's call it a relationship. You want to be in love, yay! But now you're getting, you know, you're a very practical person, you're like, okay, it's a numbers game. I'm gonna get out there, I'm gonna get on all the apps, I'm gonna, you know, like, full-on, like, spreadsheet experience, right? And now… now, if you're doing all the steps.

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Josephine McGrail: And that, by the doing, makes you feel amazing and excited, you feel like you've already succeeded on some level because you took the action. If that really is how you feel, and that makes you feel really good about yourself, great, keep doing it. Now, if you do all those actions, and on day one, when you go on your first date and you're like, this is shit, this is terrible, and you start to feel worse and worse and worse about yourself, and all you can see is how there's no one out there for you, and you're putting in all

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Josephine McGrail: this effort, and no one is out there, right? Then your energy, of course, what you're telling yourself every day is, I'm somehow failing at this, or life is failing me, or love just isn't possible for me, right? And so…

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Michael Koltes: I think this is the projector story for a lot of people. The projectors, they, like, no matter how much they're trying, it's actually, like, you're doing the wrong thing. All you have to do is actually just wait for it to happen. Which is very difficult, I think, because society is always telling, you know, you gotta take action, you gotta get out there, you gotta do this, you gotta do that. You know, I mean, you know, your parents, everyone, society is just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

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Michael Koltes: if that is not who you are, then that's not what you should be doing. You know, you have to find out what is right for you, because otherwise, you are just wasting your energy. And, okay, as a projector, we don't have that much energy, so we should not be wasting it doing all that stuff. You know, we're supposed to be resting as much as possible. You know, I think if anybody's watching this and you don't know about human design, I would definitely recommend

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Michael Koltes: That you look it up and find out what you are, because

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Michael Koltes: there is quite a big difference between some energy types. You know, like, a generator, you have a lot more sacral energy, and it keeps you going, and you can go, go, go, go, whereas, like, a projector, if you do that, you'll burn out, and so you need to rest more, and, you know, and even, like, it even applies to…

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Michael Koltes: how you work out in the gym. You know, as a generator, work out late, you sleep better, generally, or, you know, you can work out longer, do more cardio, whereas for a projector.

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Michael Koltes: you know, do short ones, you know, do, like, 45 minutes, that's it, and do it earlier in the day. You know, so… and then you'll sleep better, because, like, when you're more relaxed, you sleep better. So, these things are very beneficial. So, if you haven't learned about human design.

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Josephine McGrail: Absolutely, that's a great place to start. I love that.

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Josephine McGrail: Absolutely. So, first of all, find out who you are, and, you know, and if you don't, if you don't really agree with the human design system, try a different system. Try astrology. If you're still not into that thing, again, just write down

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Josephine McGrail: think about 3 days in your life, or 3 periods, 3 chapters of your life, where you thought, actually, I had really good energy, I was really healthy, and I felt inspired, I felt good in my life, I felt like things were working out, things were good, and then try and get really specific.

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Josephine McGrail: How did, you know, why… why did… why did those periods of your life feel so good? Who were you with? What was the activity? How were you living your day? What was your daily schedule like? Like you was talking about, Michael, right? Like, were you working out early in the morning, late at night? How were you protecting your own energy, right? So find that out. Try and get an idea about what works for you as a person and what doesn't.

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Michael Koltes: And also, like, did things come to you, or did you, like, go out and find them? Those are also very interesting things to check out.

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Josephine McGrail: I really love that, and I think also on this whole topic of, I love we're, like, doing this, like, hand thing so we understand when the other person is choking, we're like, yes!

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Michael Koltes: You!

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Michael Koltes: Yeah, yeah, no. I got the bathroom here, hair.

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Josephine McGrail: Amazing, love it.

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Josephine McGrail: No, what I wanted to share is, like, and again, on this whole, like.

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Josephine McGrail: Don't chase, elevate, attract, so elevate, yeah, your package. And I'll talk a little bit about my go-to thing. So basically, everything in life, again, if we relate it back to nature.

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Josephine McGrail: If you want to have a beautiful garden with lots of wonderful plants and flowers, what would you do? First of all, you would create the right environment, right? You would check out the soil, you would check out

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Josephine McGrail: How often does it rain in this country? How much sunlight does it get? And you would try and cultivate the soil in a way that is appropriate, and you would marry it.

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Josephine McGrail: with plants that would really enjoy that kind of environment. So you would plant little seeds that, like, less sun. You would plant seeds in a different place in your garden that needs a lot of sun, right?

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Josephine McGrail: And then what you would do is, so you would take appropriate action, you would study the environment, study what plants would work for that environment, study what are my options in that environment, what are my optimal options? So I'm not going to try and, like.

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Josephine McGrail: You know, I'm not gonna try and plant a lily that needs lots of water in the middle of the desert, where there's no water. That would just be insanity, right? So we study the environment, we get clear on the environment, i.e. getting clear on who you are, what works for you, what doesn't work for you, and then we buy those seeds.

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Josephine McGrail: We plant the seeds in the specific parts of the garden, and yes, if there are certain seeds that need some more water, we water more, but now here's the thing.

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Josephine McGrail: Chasing would be trying to dig out our own seeds daily to check to see if they ever blooming and sprouting.

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Josephine McGrail: Elevating means we are cultivating the garden. We are walking out, checking in, do we need a little more water? Is there some weeds? So it's a gentle, gentle, aligned, imprecise.

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Josephine McGrail: Energy-efficient action. We're not out there in the garden trying to dig up to ensure that the seeds are blooming and sprouting when we personally feel the time is right, because we are anxious.

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Josephine McGrail: what happens if I put in all this effort and my plants decide to not bloom and sprout, right? So there is a timing element to this. There is trusting the timing, trusting the process.

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Josephine McGrail: and then taking aligned action. Since those of chasing would be running around, digging up the whole garden, not trusting that life is gonna take over, not trusting that actually, you know, nature is really resilient.

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Josephine McGrail: And the last thing to bloom on a fruit tree is, indeed, the fruit. So, chasing would be that. It would be going out and destroying the entire garden.

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Josephine McGrail: Conscious, aligned, well-researched actions. And then, attraction. The seeds will bloom and sprout when the time is right.

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Josephine McGrail: The… because, why? The seeds are attracted to the light. The seeds are attracted to the light. And as a metaphor for you listeners out there.

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Josephine McGrail: Whatever it is you're wanting is attracted by your light, is attracted by your frequency. And so, the most important job we have as human beings is to increase our own frequency, to increase our own lightness and our own brightness.

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Josephine McGrail: Not being so engaged with what, what is… what is going on around us, but really bring our wellness fully within us, and nurture that garden that is our own life supply.

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Josephine McGrail: Let's breathe in.

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Josephine McGrail: Three things, 3 actionable, easy steps, 3 activities, 3 things, three spaces, three people that you know naturally uplifts your energy, i.e. nourishes your own inner garden, nourishes and increases your own energy frequency.

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Josephine McGrail: So what could they be? Perhaps there are certain people that you know, just by listening to their voice, you instantly feel uplifted and inspired. Even just having them, you know, having a quick phone call with them, you know they always bring your mood up.

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Josephine McGrail: Maybe it's a gym, maybe it's a beautiful yoga place, maybe it's a wonderful cinema that you love going to, a library. Every place on our planet holds its own energetic frequency, and it will match, or uplift, or change, ever so gently, subtly change your own frequency. And so, even places holds really sacred, potent energy.

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Josephine McGrail: what places do I feel really good in? When I go to this place, I know that my energy increases, and I feel really… I feel really good just having spent a little bit of time there. So get clear on what people lifts you up. I call them energy boosters. What places lifts your energy? And then also, what activities boost your energy? So perhaps you're someone, so as we know, Michael is a singer, so…

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Josephine McGrail: Obviously, for him, sound and singing is super important. He's also an actor, so for him, acting is really important, right?

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Josephine McGrail: Is it going on an adventure? And it doesn't have to be big. Maybe you just take the train, you get off the train at a different station. Maybe you go out and explore the nearby wood. Maybe you just walk a different route home. So exploration, perhaps the activity of exploration is something that naturally boosts your energy. That's something for me. So personally, I'm someone that

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Josephine McGrail: And so for me personally, even though I like my everyday routine, and I… I mean, I do a whole coaching course on, like, love your everyday, so I really love that. But, personally for me, hello, Michael, it's back!

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Michael Koltes: Hello, I'm back!

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Josephine McGrail: I am someone that needs to do new activities. If I'm not in new places, new spaces, I get… I kind of feel stuck. So that's something I know about myself. So Michael, just recapping you here, we're just talking about 3 things that people can do for themselves today, getting clear on

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Josephine McGrail: People that boost their energy, Places that boost their energy.

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Josephine McGrail: And activities that boost their energy, and all of this, just to say that if we look at ourself as a microorganism, right? You know, so if we look at ourselves as a garden, so our garden needs a specific environment.

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Josephine McGrail: And it also needs nourishment, not just in terms of food, but the people we surround ourselves with, right? And that whole thing of chasing, do not chase, but attract.

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Josephine McGrail: If we were to walk out into our garden and we wanted to plant a beautiful garden, we would understand the environment, and we would match it with seeds that would bloom and sprout and thrive in that environment. So we wouldn't try and plant plants that wouldn't be right for that garden. We would plant the seeds, i.e, we would have the idea, we would take a aligned action planting the seeds.

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Josephine McGrail: But then once they were in that soil, we wouldn't go out and dig up the whole garden to go like, are you blooming and sprouting? That would be chasing.

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Michael Koltes: Yeah, of course.

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Josephine McGrail: actually messing everything up, right? We're stopping the blooming and sprouting, it just isn't possible. Over to you, Michael.

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Michael Koltes: Exactly, you know, sometimes we just gotta, I guess, you know, be patient, and you know, it's like, same principle as a delivery. You know, like, you can… you make the delivery, and if you're always checking the post, it's not gonna make it come any faster, you know, it's gonna come when it comes.

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Michael Koltes: You know, and so sometimes we just gotta go get busy doing other things, you know, find something productive or something that makes you happy, and then let that happen when it happens.

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Michael Koltes: You know, I think this is a… this is a key thing. You know, like, a lot of times, going back to this… this, chasing, attracting, you know, even,

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Michael Koltes: I was house hunting for a place. I really needed a place to stay, and I was looking, looking, and looking. I couldn't find anything. I couldn't find anything good. Like, everything that I was looking at was… was…

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Michael Koltes: terrible. And then, one evening, on maybe my third day, somebody just messages me and asks me if I was looking for a room. You know, and I was like.

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Michael Koltes: oh, how did you know? And they're like, oh, no, a friend of mine was asking if, you know, if I knew anybody, so I thought, I don't know, maybe you might know somebody, and… but I was like, I'm looking, and I went to find the place… to look at the place, and it was perfect, you know, so…

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Michael Koltes: This is how it usually is for me. You know, no matter how much I chase and go out and do stuff, at the end of the day, the right thing comes to me without me actually

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Michael Koltes: contacting that person, you know, that… it's like some random thing that comes to me out of nowhere that I totally didn't expect. You know, I don't know if this is a projector thing or just a universal thing, but I guess…

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Josephine McGrail: I think it's a bit of both, but I think there's so much in there, because I think there's a saying I love, which is, there's a much bigger plan here for you, and that's not just a feel-good, I think this also takes in… it brings into the situation, it brings into the experience, the life experience that there was life before you and I were here, and there will… there was life that brought us.

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Josephine McGrail: Right? And there is life that is continuing to keep us alive, and again, regardless of whether you call it universe, God, love, soul, there's so many names, whatever you call it, and for me, it's just energy, and it's nothing above us or below us, it's just part of us. But my point is.

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Josephine McGrail: it brought us here, it continues to keep us here, like you said on Dead Shoot, where you're like, fuck, I have no money, and then you're like, hang on, something has kept me alive, and I've managed to stay alive, so pretty, pretty big chance. I'll do another few years on this planet, right? But, like, having… remembering that there's a bigger plan here for us, and again, when we look at that garden.

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Josephine McGrail: So we planted the seeds.

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Josephine McGrail: And then we don't just sit there, like, we go out and we water, but then there's that, like, simmering of the soup, like we talked about in your podcast the other week, right? There's that time where we have to just enjoy the plants that already bloomed and sprouted in the garden, right? We can go and do a little reading, maybe, you know, but…

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Josephine McGrail: but not getting so attached to how we think the outcome should come, how it should come, how it should look, like, not getting obsessed about the how and the when, but feel good about the why. Why did you do it in the first place? Why did you want to plant a garden in the first place, right? I,

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Josephine McGrail: I really, really love that. I think all of those things are so juicy. And one more thing, and I do want… I do want you to talk, and I know we have to go, as always, such limited time in our limitless podcast.

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Josephine McGrail: Yeah, I thought you said it was limitless. How come we're limited to… Well, we've got some space, and this is something, again, so on this planet.

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Josephine McGrail: This is something… this is a law we are bound by, so again, similarly to… doesn't mean we can't stretch time, but we put that plant in the ground. You might have had an idea, so your idea, your desire was like, oh, I really want to find a new house, right?

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Josephine McGrail: So you take aligned actions, you go on some sites, maybe you talk to some friends. Now, from the… from the moment you had the idea, and you can probably remember where you were at, the house you were at, how you felt, on the moment where you were like, I need a new place, right? And then from you had… you had that desire, that desire, your heart was like, whoa, new place, yes!

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Josephine McGrail: waiting period, right? There might be a little, hmm, I had the desire, and because the ego usually is like, I have a desire, now I want the fulfillment, right? And it's like.

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Josephine McGrail: But the fulfillment, time and space, on this planet, we are bound by physical time and space. That might be what your brain would notice as a delay. It's not necessarily a delay, but there's a space, there's a gap, there's a heartbeat.

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Josephine McGrail: We take a breath, right? So just that understanding that there's a bigger plan here for you, and trusting. So it doesn't mean any actions, but we take aligned action. We don't just run around like, wah!

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Michael Koltes: Yeah, exactly. And just to help everyone, you know, think about their life and think actually how good you have it, you know, just go back, like.

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Michael Koltes: the life expectancy was, like, 30 or 40 years, you know? Like, I played Karl Marx before, and he lost how many kids? He lost, like, 3 kids, and kids were dying all the time, you know, and people were getting robbed and mugged and stabbed, and it was normal, you know, like…

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Michael Koltes: we have it really good, where the world isn't in a massive war, we're not dying of starvation, we're not eating potatoes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You know, so… actually, when you think about it, our life

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Michael Koltes: you know, even if you're going through a challenging time, it's much better than a lot of people had it for thousands of years. You know, so I think it's very good

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Michael Koltes: threatening to stab you or shoot an arrow or, you know, you're okay, you're okay. You have a house to live, hopefully. You have food, you have choices, you know, you can order something online, you can go to a cafe or restaurant without getting mugged, you know? We have it much better than our ancestors did.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh my god, I love that so much, and I think, I mean, amazing perspective, really good perspective, and a perspective that, you know, it's so obvious, but it's something that so often we don't think about, right? So I really, really love that. And I also just think this thing of…

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Josephine McGrail: the only thing… the only thing, you know, our whole life is actually made just from an idea of what we think it is. I'm not talking about out of, you know, like, how it physically looks, but our whole life is based on the story we have in our own mind, and that story, you know, the story will always look for evidence, so your brain will always go, I've… you know, so maybe you have a feeling, you have a feeling where you feel sad that day, and your brain will be like, because the brain wants to give you more

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Josephine McGrail: of what you're feeling. It wants to give evidence so that it can prove its own existence, so the ego's like, oh my god, Josie, you feel sad?

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Josephine McGrail: I'll tell you why you feel sad, and it will, like, point the fingers at all the things in my life that apparently my mind is like, maybe you're sad because of all these things, right? But it's just that reminder that…

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Josephine McGrail: Well, that's a choice. I can also choose to do what you did, Michael, in that situation, right, and go, actually…

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Josephine McGrail: so what I do to trick my own brain is I don't just go, oh, I feel so safe and secure with my finances. What I would do, because the brain can't argue with itself, so… which is hilarious, so if you go,

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Josephine McGrail: Why do I feel so safe and secure in this situation? Then the brain will look for evidence of that.

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Josephine McGrail: Michael, you have frozen, so Michael is in this very, cool pose of, like.

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Josephine McGrail: With eyes closed, looking very poetic and romantic, really taking in the information. But yeah, I just want to finish off with that little trick. It's something I've used for a long time now, and I really love it. So, instead of just going, you know, a lot of people do a lot of limited belief work, they work in front of the mirror, and they go, I am beautiful, but if you don't feel that, it can be really kind of, hmm…

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Josephine McGrail: But if you change it to… so, for instance, could be healthy, you could go, why am I so healthy? So if you put the why in front, so you're asking yourself a question, now you're working with your brain. The brain will always look for evidence in the outer world or in your past life, you know, earlier years.

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Josephine McGrail: to give you evidence of why you feel, why you feel you're having the experience you're having, and it's doing it to prove its own existence. And so, using that little why can be a really powerful way to kind of trick your way, trick your brain.

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Josephine McGrail: to produce evidence for you that is actually uplifting your energy instead of bringing you down. So I wanted to, to just finish with… It's cool, right?

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Josephine McGrail: Love it.

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Michael Koltes: What about now.

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Josephine McGrail: Please do. Michael, I sadly have to go, but I hope forward to doing this again. Is there any final words that you want to share with the community?

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Michael Koltes: No, except, if you haven't subscribed, you know, then do that, you know, and put a like so these podcasts can get out there. You know, I think that's important, and come back again, you know, we hope to take you on this journey together as we discover ourselves, and hopefully you can too.

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Josephine McGrail: Oh my god, I love that so much, 100%. We're here learning with you all, like, we're not here going like, oh, this is the way, we're here going, fuck, this is definitely not the way, but there are other ways!

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Michael Koltes: This is the way I figure it out for myself, anyway, you know, we both… and we're both, like, this similar but different, you know, so you have a couple different perspectives on it, which is great.

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Josephine McGrail: 100%. Thank you so much, Michael, and listeners, we will be back. Thank you, thank you!