Health Longevity Secrets

The Quest for Longevity

• Robert Lufkin MD • Episode 190

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Unlock the secrets to super longevity with James Stroll, a visionary in the pursuit of unlimited lifespans. Discover how James and his partner, Bernadine Brown, have been at the forefront of advocating for immortality since the 1970s. Despite facing skepticism and a lack of scientific backing, their relentless passion built a thriving community dedicated to wellness and longevity. Their journey led to the creation of RadFest, a groundbreaking conference that bridges the gap between scientific advancements and community engagement.

Explore the transformative power of connection as we uncover the benefits of shared learning in the quest for optimal health. James discusses the cutting-edge wellness protocols embraced by their vibrant community, from young plasma exchange to stem cell treatments. Learn about the Coalition for Radical Life Extension's role in uniting top experts and the public to explore the latest health innovations. Inspired by resilience during the COVID-19 pandemic, James shares a renewed perspective on life and immortality, offering hope and vitality for a future filled with limitless possibilities.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to the Health Longevity Secret Show with your host, dr Robert Lufkin. His book titled Lies I Taught in Medical School has just been named to the New York Times bestseller list. And now please enjoy this week's episode where we explore the quest for longevity with James Stroll.

Speaker 2:

This week, we get to unlock the secrets to living a longer, healthier life with our special guest, james Stroll, co-owner of People Unlimited and director of the Coalition for Radical Life Extension. With a dedication spanning over five decades, james takes us through his inspirational journey from skepticism to becoming a leading advocate for super longevity. Learn how he and his partner, bernadine Brown, championed the idea of unlimited lifespans and founded People Unlimited in 1995, creating a supportive community dedicated to wellness and longevity. By 2016, their efforts culminated in the successful RadFest conference, a groundbreaking event that merges scientific advancements with community engagement. This year's RadFest is actually happening September 5th through 8th in Anaheim, california. I'll be there. If you attend, be sure and say hi. So today in this conversation, we discover the transformative power of community in achieving optimal health and wellness. We dive into the importance of shared experiences and collective knowledge, emphasizing how in-person interactions and community events can elevate our health journeys from diverse health protocols to cutting edge Therapies. James sheds light on how the vibrant community in Scottsdale, arizona, is pushing the boundaries of progressive wellness practices. Additionally, we explore the Coalition for Radical Life Extension's mission to unite top doctors, scientists and the public through engaging events like RadFest, making groundbreaking longevity therapies accessible and enjoyable. This episode underscores the powerful impact of community mindset and spiritual rejuvenation on our path toward achieving unlimited lifespans.

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Speaker 3:

Welcome. Yes, well, thank you very much for having me on.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm so excited to talk about the communities you've built and your experience with longevity, but maybe we could just take a moment and tell us how you got involved with this and sort of your personal longevity journey.

Speaker 3:

Do I have a couple of days here to talk? Yeah, well, thanks, rob. Well, the short story is and it had to be a short story obviously I've been speaking on super longevity and mortality, slice, you know, slice immortality for 50 years. So it started in 1972, actually over 50 years and I met is when I met my partner, who I actually working with still Bernadine Brown, and he was. She was working with another individual, still Bernadine Brown, and he she he was. She was working with another individual too, called Charles Charles Brown, and they were together and they were speaking on unlimited lifespans and saying that immortality is possible.

Speaker 3:

Now, there wasn't a lot of any, very little, I mean very little science at that time on any of it. I remember reading an article at that time in the Scottsdale newspaper from Joshua about Joshua Leidenberg, who was a geneticist, and he came out, interesting enough. That was in about 75, I think it was. It came out in a paper that he was saying immortality is possible, you know, and it was back on, I think I thought it should have been the front page news, right, and it was back on. I think I thought it should have been the front page news, right. But you know that was exciting to see that come out at that time, because we were speaking about the idea of immortality, that it should be. The natural tendency in our bodies is to have an unlimited lifespan and that we would eventually come across a science to support that. Well then that article pops up, come across the science to support that. Well then that article pops up and at that time, of course, those type of sessions and events were pretty much private to doctors and scientists at that time, so we weren't able to attend that at all. But up until other than that there wasn't any real science to back what we were saying. So you can imagine we're out there talking all over the country and sending out newsletters and everything else that people should have unlimited lifespans.

Speaker 3:

Interesting enough, we have got a lot of rebuke on it by people, mostly people who would say that it didn't support the religious beliefs you have to die first to go to heaven and have everlasting life, all those kind of concepts. But excitingly enough, a lot of people responded and so we started traveling United States speaking on the subject and then we were invited overseas to speak and we traveled all 26 different continents. You know all over the world. You know, all over the world, and then, consequently, we put together quite a following of people who were actually supporting the idea of unlimited lifespans. So that went on for quite some time, and then, in 1995, bernie and I formed what's now called People Unlimited, which we have, because we wanted to build an organization, network of people that were actually a community, that were actually supporting each other with both the education and the inspiration and the support of each other to live unlimited lives, and so it became very popular, and is still that people, uh, from different areas of the world, moved, moved here, and now we have these events, we do, we meet twice a week. We're the we're the largest organization of its of its kind that is dedicated actually to immortality or super longevity, um, and we've been with. That was founded in 1995.

Speaker 3:

And then in, though, however, and 2014, we had the idea to start expanding out from people in limited and meet more people and what we call the longevity community, and so I started reaching out to doctors and scientists that I knew that were talking about this. Up until that time, too, I hadn't heard a lot of science out there, so I began to research that found different people, like Bill Andrews, dr Bill Andrews, aubrey de Grey, who is now on our support team and scientific team for RADFEST. For the coalition, we met several other you know Bill Falun, with Life Extension Foundation and consequently, in our conversation my conversation with them I gave I expressed to them the idea of forming a coalition for radical life extension and then and then using launching it, that idea with a big event that would support the coalition and begin to help galvanize the radical life-exchanging community. So we put our first event on in 2016, radfest, which stands for Revolution Against Aging and Death Festival, and it was a big hit, contrary to a lot of the supporters supporters of the event they weren't sure what it would do, but we they and a lot of the scientists and doctors we talked to at that time did not just want another boring science event. They said we walk out of our own events, you know, sometimes, and talk in the hallway. So they said please put us, try to put on something that would also we want to draw the public in any way. So we said, said, why not create something like a Woodstock for radical life extension, something fascinating, fun that everybody could also enjoy, dance and learn the best of science and connect, have a human connection. So that's what we put together.

Speaker 3:

And in 2016, when it took place and we didn't know what would happen, we didn't know if 200 people would show up or a thousand, but we had got over a thousand people at the first event. So so we were all thrilled and from there it just has continued to keep moving. The, the like. Like many events, the COVID set us back for a couple of years. We had to go virtual. It kind of stunned our growth some, but now we're back again, growing and a lot of people. Of course, I'm probably biased in that level, but I think it's one of the, if not the best event of its kind. You know in the world that actually focuses on not just maximum wellness but also age reversal as the real focus and stopping aging. So does that cover that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that's great, I know, that was fast.

Speaker 2:

I love it. It will going back to the people unlimited. So, that particular organization. If I understand you correctly, that's one that's based. It's a community, a longevity community, there in Scottsdale. Is that right where it's based? Yes, that's right, scottsdale, arizona. If you haven't been to Scottsdale, is that right?

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's right, scottsdale, Arizona. If you haven't been to Scottsdale, I think you have, rob. In fact I know you have. It's a beautiful area. We created a really vibrant community of super longevity enthusiasts here that really mean business. We meet twice a week.

Speaker 3:

I want to say, while we're on this subject, I want to invite people who are listening to this to come and check us out. They can also come on virtually to our events with people Unlimited if they want to get a feel for what we're doing. But best is showing up in person. We have week-long events twice a year. We have two events a week and then we have weekend events once a month, a complete three-day weekend event and they're amazing.

Speaker 3:

But the key thing is I really experienced that to live a long time, that we all want to and I think we're all aware of this in some level. We need the support for that. It's not just a lone trip, because there's so much, as you know, to learn, so much to glean from, and really there's also pitfalls sometimes that aren't always easy to get through by yourself. I mean we need encouragement, we need inspiration, we need education and this is what this community provides. You know. In a nutshell, I mean, you can go online and learn things, of course, and, and we all do, but there's a difference between being in person and being able to actually interact with each other.

Speaker 3:

For example, at our events the other day, we all shared what we're all doing individually. You know, diet wise, and of course, there's so many different diets, of course and ways to eat, and but we share different protocols, from from young plasma exchange results to exosomes, to stem cell, that stem cells, placenta, stem cells that you know many have done, and all the different other protocols, analytics, and then we're able to share those together, talk about them, encourage each other through sometimes difficulties that come up with one's health and what to do, and it's just so powerful to have a community. I'm personally so grateful for it, and I think we have Vitalia I think I'm pronouncing that right up in Honduras. Okay, is that right? Is that the name of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Vitalia.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, vitalia, yeah, which is. I want to get up there in June and check out and I think it's a great thing that they have that community. They're developing up there and it's beautiful and they're going to be able to do a lot of things offshore that you know still we can't do here, but Arizona is also a right to work right to tri-state, so there's a lot of things we can do here and so not everybody is going to be able to go to Honduras and where Scottsdale is very convenient for especially people here in the States to come to and even live here and take part in this great community and help us build this here. We've got everything here. We've got maximum wellness doctors here, many of them are really progressive. We've got the people here to support that.

Speaker 3:

We've got great climate overall. The summers are a little bit hot, but it's dry heat, so but we have, you know there's AC, of course, and you know people love it here because also the topography is great. You know you can be here in the winter, have 70 degree weather most of the time, clear skies, go up an hour and a half from here and be in the snow. A very fruitful community that not only is able to share the most advanced protocols and support each other and really thrive, but also an area that's a lot of an area to live in, that's a lot of fun and safe to live in. So I want to put that, I want to put that call out to everybody who's listening to this, because you know that that's that's how they heard.

Speaker 3:

Honduras is great. I'm going to go there. I may. I may even buy a place there to visit different times to be able to benefit that. But here we have Scottsdale, arizona, where you can just come and live here year-round if you want to and get the best of everything it's here to offer. And we're growing that all the time. We have more people coming in here, more people interested and, like I was talking to you that we're creating collaborations to get the best of wellness protocols and age reversal modalities that we can get.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's such. The whole Scottsdale is beautiful and the idea of community is so powerful with longevity, and it's great that people can check it out online initially and sort of get a taste of it a little bit there, and so yeah, so that's People Unlimited. Now the Coalition for Radical Extension, radical Life Extension, is a different structure. It's it's the foundation for the Radfest conference. Then that's right. How is that different or what? What are the goals there?

Speaker 3:

that then that's right. How is that different? Or what are the goals there? That, Okay, so it's different from the standpoint that People Unlimited is a subchapter S corporation owned by Bernie and I. Okay, the coalition is the 501c3 nonprofit, you know, organization.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that's.

Speaker 3:

We have a board.

Speaker 3:

We have Bill Fallone on the board, Liz Parrish, Dr Bill Andrews, myself and Bernadine Brown, and so we have created the coalition to help galvanize the radical life extension community and create a place, a space where doctors, top doctors, scientists and the public can jointly come together and share the latest therapies, modalities, top doctors, scientists and the public can jointly come together and share the latest therapies, modalities, et cetera, for super longevity and have an environment that's conducive to learning and an enjoyable environment, because you're not going to get a lot of the public in per se to an event unless there's something that they can really relate to or get benefit from or to be able to, you know, understand, and so at RadFest, we encourage all of our speakers to speak more in layman terms and, you know, also offer modalities and therapies that are clearly can advance someone's health and how to get there and also be accessible, you know, to the public there, and that's what's great about RadFest too, that all the doctors, we have many networking opportunities and opportunities for the public, the individuals, to meet the doctors, talk to them, connect with them you know, later on down the line and to actually genuinely advance their health, and in many a proliferate of ways.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's such a, it's such a great conference. Like I said, I've attended it several times and so it is sort of the woodstock of longevity. It has music, it's fun, there's interactions and then great, great, great speakers there, great content and the technical exhibits. I really enjoy it. It's a large, large number of vendors there with all sorts of longevity tech. You know some of it. You know wild, but it's, it's, it's great, it's great to see and and get it out there and remind everyone the dates this year and location where it's going to be?

Speaker 3:

It's going to be in Anaheim, california, at the Hyatt Regency there. Okay, and it's September 5th through the 8th. Yeah, yeah 5th through the 8th.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. I'm going to be there this year as well.

Speaker 3:

Just a little ways from Disneyland, just a little ways from Disneyland, just a little ways from Disneyland. That's right. I took our whole team to Disneyland after the event last year, nice it was fun it was fun. Good way to blow it all out afterwards, right.

Speaker 2:

Great idea yeah.

Speaker 3:

Besides, it was Mickey Mouse's birthday that year and he's immortal. He is.

Speaker 2:

He is mouse's birthday that year and he's immortal. Yes, yes, well, well, I want to. In the time we have remaining, I wanted to pivot to one thing, a concept you touched on before. I've heard you speak about it. It's, it's, it's a really fascinating idea of that. Uh, you know, we, you talked about immortality, but the, the idea of an immortal germline or immortal lineage, it's, it's a, it's, it's a great visualization, it's a great thought. Maybe you could uh expand on that just a little bit yeah, for sure, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Um, so, so look, uh. Well, I had an experience. I mean, I've always been inspired by the idea and the thought of unlimited lifespans, like yourself and many of us who are, you know, following or taking this journey. And about a little over two years ago, it was right towards the end of the COVID, I was feeling pretty heavy laden I'll use that term and kind of frustrated at seeing so many people, especially through COVID, die and so many people get sick. And I also noticed a lot of associates through the longevity network were getting kind of discouraged themselves and, you know, wondering, oh, are we going to really be able to get some type of innovation or therapy before our time? I mean, is this generation that we're living in now? I mean, are we going to be able to conquer death and aging? And so many of them are pretty discouraged. When I talk to them, and not very hopeful, they'd say, well, it might not be in my lifetime, et cetera, et cetera, and and then, and so, yeah, I began to think about this and I thought, well, you know, I've been doing this since, you know, like I said, 1972. I've it's been a wonderful journey in that level, but a lot of challenges, but a lot of challenges. And I started to feel like, oh, I, I was also carrying honestly, I was carrying a lot of, I'll say some frustrations in my own self about, you know, seeing people not necessarily make the choice to really live and they would like. Bill Flun always talks about all these billionaires who could, who could, you know, he talks to them all the time and they could change their lives, their health, just by investing more into their own bodies and by investing in super longevity. But he was seeing them die, you know. And so I begin to think, wow, it's going to take a lot more strength than we think to walk this path, to really get where we want to all get. I think we take that for granted. Sometimes we don't all realize how traumatized we are really by death and what's in our bodies in that level. And it's one thing to have hope for these innovations, it's another thing to have the strength to live, to get there, to stay alive, to be able to benefit from these innovations. So I began to think, oh, I'm strong, I feel good, but I'm going to need something more than that, than that strength that I've had before. And so, as I began to give to that. I thought, ok, I know innately there's this potential in our bodies to have unlimited lifespan, but how do you really tap into that? And there must be something there. I thought in my deliberation in this there must be something there in our bodies that we could tap into to give us this extra strength or resolve, at least for myself. I felt so again as I began to give this.

Speaker 3:

I one night started to this is interesting. I started to flick. I thought I'm going to get my mind off this and watch a movie or something on Netflix. So I started flicking through the movies and then, all of a sudden, this movie came up about Jesus. It was called the Chosen.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's pretty well nationwide now, and it was a religious, you know story about jesus and. But the acting was amazing, I think, in it. And it was crowdfunded by several different um uh denominations, uh, religious dominant denominations, everything from the you know catholic to uh uh to hebrew, to you, you name it um religions, and they put this together to get the most factual accounting of Jesus's life and his disciples. So that was good. So at first, when I looked at it I thought, oh, it's some more in my own mind, some religious propaganda. I kind of walked out of that, I don't want to hear it. But then I thought, oh, I've got to watch this because I'm drawn to it. So I began to watch it a little bit.

Speaker 3:

As soon as the actor came on, who was playing Jesus, okay, started speaking and he was a good actor, but it wasn't. I realized now it wasn't just this movie or the actor, it was this energy that Jesus was projecting and I began to feel something new, enter my body. Now get me clear that I'm not talking about the Jesus that the religious world defines or their interpretation of Jesus. I'm talking about the Jesus before religion hijacked, who he was. Okay, this human being Now to me, this human being I began to realize, I think, was the first manifestation of a person on this planet. Now there's other people who. There were signs of this immortality through time, this seed, I'll say. But he was the first to really come forth and the full manifestation of the realization, I feel, of that immortality was possible.

Speaker 3:

And he was misinterpreted. But he was saying, he was saying all about life. He wasn't about death, he wasn't about the crucifixion and being dying he was about. He was full of life and he said eat of my flesh, drink of my blood and you'll have everlasting life. What was he meaning by that? He wasn't literally saying eat of my flesh, drink of my blood. He was saying communicate with me, partake with me. He said, when I knock at your door, let me in and we will have a feast together of new life, whoa.

Speaker 3:

So as I began to watch that, I thought, oh man, I'm feeling new energy in my body and so I thought, okay, this might just be temporary, I might just have you know, but I woke up in the morning and I felt all my burdens that I had felt had left me. The sorrow, the trauma that I had felt through the last few years of seeing, like I say, people I knew die and et cetera, et cetera, and struggle, and all that burden left me. I thought, oh, wow, this is beautiful and I felt a new energy in my body. So, as you know, I expressed a little bit about this at RadFest. So, anyway, I then, as I began to get to that more and open up the short story, is it just got stronger all the time in my person and I began to express about it to people in limited. So I've experienced.

Speaker 3:

I believe that this potential is innate in us. I think Jesus was the human being that I'll say I don't think he was. I think this seed was possibly from the beginning of time, but he was the first human being to bring it to fruition, to actually give it clothing, give it something that he was able to manifest in his own body in a deep way, and so, consequently, he affected, if you want to say, the DNA or the core of the imprint that's in our bodies here of immortality. And that's what he was speaking. And that's really what got him in the hot water was he was speaking that he wasn't about sacrifice okay, because he said I'm here to end sacrifice, and so he was about full living, full on living. So, anyway, I thought the imprint of that in my body and so I began to speak about it, people in Lebanon and everywhere, and since then, then it's just grown stronger and stronger.

Speaker 3:

So, consequently, I think that this, this is a like an immortal bloodline in our body, connected to, connected to him. I think it's gone, you know, way back before him, but again, he was that first person. Actually give it credence and and and bring it to fruition. You know, like, like robert bann, example, who ran the four minute under four minutes in the mile and then everyone else was able to do that, so he broke. So Jesus made that breakthrough for us to benefit from and he created this lineage and helped create this lineage in our bodies for us to tap into.

Speaker 3:

Now, whether you believe anyone believes that that's from that standpoint, you know it's Jesus or whatever it believes that that's from that standpoint, you know it's jesus or whatever, it really doesn't matter, because that lineage is there in our bodies, that blueprint, I believe, and when we tap into that it gives it gives us the supernatural strength I'll call it the strength we should have. It's an immortal strength to really get where we want to get in this super longevity flow and not wear out from it. That's a key thing. What do do we need? The resilience, the strength, the resolve, the foresight, the intelligence, everything that we need in our bodies to tap into, and then we draw everything to us rather than struggling to get it.

Speaker 3:

I'm putting a lot of this, like I said, as short as I can because we have limited time, but it's very powerful, rob, and since I've experienced this. It's just gotten better for me all the time. And now I'm speaking to other people, like people in limited, and they're having some of the same experiences. It's amazing, you know. They begin to ignite this and we're igniting this in our bodies because it just isn't for me, it's really for every one of us. We have this and all of us have this in us. It's fantastic and it was for us to tap into it and, like I said, it gives us a new strength and resilience to get where we want to get.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this whole idea of mindset and visualizing immortality can be very, very powerful and affecting all of us. It reminds me of Brian Marescu wrote a book called the Immortality Key. That talks about religions a little bit, and immortality, but it's it's, it's fascinating. Well, I, I want to be respectful of your time and everything. And, jim, how? How can people follow you on social media and also find out more about the Coalition for Radical Life Extension, RadFest, and also People Unlimited? Maybe you could?

Speaker 3:

give us that information.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thank you very much. Yeah, feel free to contact me personally if you want to have questions or comments at my. It's jrstroh at gmailcom. That's j jrstro at gmailcom. You want to talk to me personally about more what I'm expressing here. Also, you can go to wwwpeopleunlimitedeekcom and look up our website and find out everything what People Unlimited is doing. The coalition, or Radfest, email address is wwwrlecoalitioncom. Okay, so any of these email addresses. They can also go to the coalition website, coalition for radical life extension website, or Google Radfest, r-a-d-f-e-s-t radfestcom and look up exactly what Radfest and what we're doing there and be able to share their information with their friends and bring everybody they can because it's a celebration of life, right, rob?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Well. This has been so much fun, jim.

Speaker 1:

Thanks.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for taking the time to spend with us today, and also thanks for all the great work you're doing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thank you for all the great work you're doing. Appreciate it.

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