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Molecular Hydrogen: Breakthrough or Hype?
Could a simple molecule be the key to resolving seemingly incurable health conditions? Greg shares his remarkable journey from facing imminent death to complete recovery using molecular hydrogen therapy. After conventional medicine failed to treat his tumors, severe heart condition, and debilitating autoimmune issues, Greg's desperate search led him to discover what he believes to be the profound healing potential of properly administered molecular hydrogen.
Unlike conventional antioxidants, molecular hydrogen (H2) is thought to work selectively in the body—including on the mitochondria, where many diseases originate. Greg explains how hydrogen's uniquely small molecular size allows it to penetrate any cell in the body, crossing the blood-brain barrier and working at the cellular level to reduce inflammation, improve nutrient absorption, and restore proper function to various systems.
Greg shares remarkable case studies, from a woman with dementia who regained her ability to recognize family members to patients with supposedly permanent heart conditions seeing complete reversals. More work is clearly needed in this area of evidence to move beyond anecdotal case reports to clinical trials.
We explore the science behind different hydrogen delivery methods, why production quality matters tremendously, and practical protocols anyone can implement. Greg offers valuable guidance on avoiding inferior products that might introduce harmful byproducts while explaining how proper hydrogen therapy might be the missing piece in your health journey.
Whether you're battling chronic health issues or simply interested in optimizing your wellness and longevity, this episode challenges conventional thinking about healing and recovery. We are at the beginning of understanding the science behind molecular hydrogen therapy and will be paying close attention as this story continues to unfold.
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go All right, we're going All right. Hey, Greg, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me and inviting me.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited about learning about molecular therapeutic hydrogen. It's something we haven't talked about yet on this podcast, and you have deeper expertise in this area, so I can't wait to dive into it. But before we do, could you maybe just take a moment and tell our audience a little bit about your background and how you came to be interested in this fascinating area?
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, if you don't mind, I would like to say my disclaimer too real quick, before I really begin we're in a world you know how the world is these days, so I'm not going to give any medical advice today. I'm not making any medical claims and everything today that I'm going to state is just my opinion. I'm not making claims for or against any product or products.
Speaker 1:And we actually say that at the end of every podcast. I have my 13-year-old daughter read a disclaimer to that effect. So yeah, this podcast is not medical advice, despite the close, but yeah, please tell us your story.
Speaker 2:So basically, what happened is I was working in the medical field for about two decades, maybe a little bit more In the first decade. After that, everything was a lot of repetition and I actually was very disappointed with the limits of what we can do for people. In fact, it made me hope that I never get sick. And then, lo and behold, I got really sick. I had some very major medical problems, some which I was told would basically kill me, and at this point I'm not even supposed to be alive. So I'm already technically a medical miracle, and what I ended up having to do was I needed to find my own.
Speaker 1:Would you be comfortable sharing what those are, or would you prefer not to?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had. Well, I had numerous things. So, one I had tumors throughout my body that were discovered. Two I did have autoimmune issues which were causing such severe inflammation to the point where I literally couldn't walk, so I'd be bedridden for like six months at a time. My body was withering away. My kidneys and my liver weren't really working optimally either. On top of it all, the worst one, apparently, too, was I had a heart condition that was extremely severe. Also, that's the one they said was going to end me. They're like you need to do something, we need to do surgery.
Speaker 1:Your heart is in very bad shape, like a malformation or something.
Speaker 2:I was having. So the way that my heart would beat was so it was kind of like a murmur, but it was a severe murmur that they told me was basically wearing my heart out. It was kind of like towing a 10,000 pound trailer with a little Toyota Corolla and you were just going to wear your heart out. And again, I'm not even supposed to be alive right now. So that was already a long time ago and you know I got really frustrated because there's a difference in opinion Of course I went to regular MDs. I have numerous friends who are doctors and specialists. Opinion Of course I went to regular MDs.
Speaker 1:I have numerous friends who are doctors and specialists and there was nothing that they could do for me. And one question, just wearing my doctor hat again. When somebody says I have tumors, the obvious question that the medical person asks well, are those benign or malignant tumors? Tumor just means lump or mass, right? Yeah, so these?
Speaker 2:yeah, these particular term tumors were neurofibro, basically neurofibromas, so they were tumors also in my nerves. So they were causing excruciating I wasn't excruciating pain, If you can imagine somebody poking at a nerve in your tooth and it was like that 24, seven and I would take medication and it didn't even make a dent. I was on some of the craziest medication. The medication made me very sick and I just couldn't take it. So I was suffering in a major way and I mean to the point of tears quite regularly, and so what I ended up doing was I knew I'm pretty good at figuring things out. Actually, it's one of my strengths. The only thing is that my heart really has to be in it and my um, I I wasn't really believe it or not that interested in medicine and I wasn't like one of these, like biohackers and one of these people who who want to, you know, find all the answers to problems that have to do with medicine, and I didn't really care. All I really did I never cared about my diet. I never cared about any of that. The only thing I would do is just do some exercise and just live. However I wanted to live, you know, but things got so serious that I still remember to this day. I was literally sitting on the couch because I couldn't do anything and I went to go grab a remote control because I was just going to watch TV and I literally couldn't even turn on the television. My joints hurt so bad I couldn't push the button. And that's when I had my lowest point. I mean, I started crying and because I used to be quite athletic and it really broke, it broke me and way too young to be going through something like this. And so then I, like a lot of desperate people, I made a prayer. I just started praying and I prayed to God for him to please help me and show me like, give me understanding or at least guide me in the right direction to figure out how to heal this body. And I made kind of this little weird promise at the time. I don't know where it came from. I was just at this really low point and I just said look, if you show me the way, I promise I will dedicate my life to showing others and helping others, because whatever it is, it will help me. I'm pretty sure we'll help others. And that was my little prayer.
Speaker 2:Probably within one or two weeks after that, something happened to me, because I hated reading scientific journals and all the scientific papers and trying to figure out, you know, understand all this stuff. It wasn't something that I was fond of or even interested in. Well, something flipped, because I began to be able to understand things that I couldn't understand before. And then I stumbled upon hydrogen and I started reading the data and it was so unbelievable. My personality is that I'm a big skeptic, so when I hear things like this like when I first read about molecular hydrogen I actually thought it was a scam I'm like this is way too good to be true. This cannot possibly be true, and I read the data for years. I didn't want to try it right away. I was just reading the data and I started looking at where it was coming from, and it was coming from Japan. So I became even worse.
Speaker 2:My health just continued to get worse. I tried all these diets, from carnivore diets to plant based diets. I was trying so many things and so many supplements and so many products and so many machines and so much stuff, and it became very frustrating because, to be quite honest, nothing was really working and my condition was just getting worse, getting worse, and then I continued to read this stuff about hydrogen and I thought to myself you know, I should just try this stuff. It looks quite legitimate actually. And then that's where things got really tricky, because I didn't understand anything about it at first and I'm thinking where in the heck am I going to go get hydrogen? You can't go to the corner drugstore. I don't even know the right type of hydrogen. I don't know the levels that I should be ingesting. I don't know the levels that I should be ingesting. I don't know the best way to do it. Whether do I? Should I inhale a gas? Should I dissolve it in water? Drink it in water? I had a lot of questions and everything was leading to Japan, and so then I started trying certain products like hydrogen tablets, even these little bottles actually these little hydrogen bottles and stuff and of course they weren't working. And, if anything, I ended up seeing lab reports later that concerned me about those types of products that I'm like. I felt so stupid. I didn't realize that the production of hydrogen was very important, and so I ended up learning everything about that, even going as far as going to Japan and learning from the best. They have the top engineers there that understand hydrogen and I became a hydrogen production specialist.
Speaker 2:I learned every different modality of making hydrogen and why some are more beneficial than others and the potential dangers actually of doing it certain ways and basically, after going through all this, I eventually was able to solve my medical issues um, blowing some of my doctor's minds, Cause I never did have heart surgery or anything. My heart condition is gone and I use my techniques with other people with heart conditions with the same results. They were able to get rid of their heart conditions also. In fact, I just got a testimonial about a week ago. I was working with a woman who's almost a hundred years old and this particular woman had like three or four heart conditions. She had a lot of problems and she was on pharmaceuticals. And I literally just got an email about a week ago. She is officially off of all pharmaceuticals and all her heart conditions are gone, and the doctors just can't believe it. They said this is unreal. They said that they were nervous about taking her off of the medications because they've never seen anything like this, and so I started using my methods also, like on my own father, who had been suffering from really bad arthritis, glaucoma, diabetes, blood pressure and cholesterol issues and with the techniques, all those issues disappeared.
Speaker 2:I remember his eye doctors were totally blown away. They just could not believe that a guy who had had glaucoma for over 30 years it just disappeared all of a sudden. They actually thought there was something wrong with their testing. So they had him back like three times and they're just like we don't know what to tell you, but your glaucoma is gone. And so I started seeing that my methods were really, really working. And then I started, of course, I started a YouTube channel because that was one of my promises that I promised that I would share with the world. And that's what I've been trying to do is just share these techniques. I've been sharing them even with some healing centers that have been using them, because they were using.
Speaker 2:It was funny they actually reached out to me because they were saying, look, we're using hydrogen here, but we're not seeing really any results.
Speaker 2:And that's when I said, well, what kind of machine are you using? And of course they're using the Chinese machine that I don't recommend, and I told them why that machine was not very good and they said come on, does the machine really matter? I said, of course it does. The way you produce hydrogen actually matters a lot, and so they ended up getting the equipment that I recommend, which is the number one machine in all of Japan and basically the world, and they started using that, and the results were so astronomical that again they had patients that had been going to doctors for years without any results, and now those doctors, after seeing the results of these patients, they're going to that clinic trying to learn what they're doing there, which are basically my techniques, and so it's been a really wild ride, a really wild story, and so I appreciate you having me on, because it's the only way that it's going to get out is if we talk about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great story. I'm glad everything has worked out well for you with your conditions. Well, let's go back to the beginning now. Just basic levels for our audience. Hydrogen is an element. You put two of them together, two molecules, it's a gas, right? So take it from there them together two molecules.
Speaker 2:It's a gas, right, so take it from there. Yeah, so we are talking specifically molecular hydrogen, which is just a gas, just like oxygen. Right, and not to be confused with something called Brown's gas. A lot of people get confused with that one because what some people do is they'll show you data on molecular hydrogen and then they suggest a machine that doesn't even make molecular hydrogen. This is very common.
Speaker 1:Molecular hydrogen, to be clear, is H2. Is that right? That's correct. Okay, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2:And what's Brown's gas? So you know what people are doing out there and I think it's quite silly actually, but what they do is they're just electrolyzing or ionizing water, which separates oxygen and hydrogen. So now you've got these two gases, but what the people don't realize is that those are not the only gases that are going to be produced. So there's other gases that are in the process. When they go through this process and Brown's gas is all those gases they just tell you and inhale it all and they say, oh, it's got hydrogen, it's got oxygen. You know it's great for you, but the truth is I've seen some lab reports on that and it's it's for me. It's a huge concern. I'm a little surprised how many people are actually using it.
Speaker 1:So so the Brown's gas. There's an issue. If you take H2O and you do electrolysis and make oxygen gas and hydrogen gas, that's Brown's gas, that's euphemistically referred to, that. There's a problem with that, right? What oxygen seems good? Right, we need that, or or is it?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, with Brown's gas.
Speaker 2:So there's a lot of issues. One, the science of metals has everything to do with hydrogen production, so metallurgy is really important. Most brands gas machines are using what's called stainless steel to make their gas, which I've seen lab reports on it. You don't want to use stainless steel. Stainless steel is not the right metal for hydrogen. That's the first problem.
Speaker 2:A lot of those devices also use lye, so sodium hydroxide I mean that's the main ingredient in Drano Highly caustic. In fact, they're using it now to dissolve human bodies in motor areas. In fact, they're using it now to dissolve human bodies in motor areas. So not the right way to do hydrogen. The right type of metal that you want to use is actually pure grade titanium and platinum. The biggest problem with like a lot of devices like again, in my opinion, like these little bottles from China is that they're actually using plated metals, so they're coating the metal. So one of the issues with that if you can just imagine I don't know how many people understand that when you put metal with water and then you run electricity, what do you think is going to happen to a plated metal? What's?
Speaker 1:going to happen? What will happen?
Speaker 2:So plated metal tends to flake off.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, just clarify for for everybody out there, all right, not to mention on top of it. In order for hydrogen production, you use a, you use membranes. So the Brown's gas people, they don't use any membrane, so they just let all the gases through. When you have a membrane, there's what's called an SPEPEM membrane. It's like proton exchange membrane, and what happens is it only allows hydrogen gas through, which is what you're really looking for. The only problem is, again, japan. See, japan is like way ahead of everybody. They're like we're talking light years. I've been doing this for like a decade, just so you know. I've been looking at this for a long time and people are just recently learning about it. But basically, japan did some lab tests on membranes that are being used and there was a lot of concern as far as things they were seeing the membrane. So Japan ended up developing their own membranes. They're not using the ones that everybody's using, including China, because they were worried about there was big concerns. I saw the lab reports.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't, I can't, I don't like I can't really say what's on them, just for legal reasons, um, but the point is is that it was of concern. Before we get too far into the mechanics of production and and the metallurgy and all that, let's take a step back, one more, one little bit back, and talk about molecular hydrogen and what it's doing biologically to have all these possible wondrous effects. What is the biological mechanism of the benefits of molecular hydrogen?
Speaker 2:Well, the first thing I'll say. I mean, we know things like that. It functions as an antioxidant and now it is a selective antioxidant, so it's not your normal antioxidant. I think it's actually very important for people to understand that antioxidants I'm sure you probably are aware of this that they actually come in different sizes. Are you aware of that?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, vitamin E, but our audience probably isn't, so I'll educate a little on this.
Speaker 2:So, basically, vitamin E is not the same size as vitamin C and it's not the same size as CoQ10 or glutathione and things of this nature. Hydrogen is actually extremely tiny. So if you're trying to get CoQ10 into the core of mitochondria, good luck. It's like trying to shove an elephant through your front door. It's not going to happen, and so hydrogen is so tiny that it can actually go to anywhere in your body. There is no place that it cannot get to. So that's the first important part.
Speaker 1:So it literally diffuses through cell membranes. There's no molecular transport, there's no endocytosis. It's a small enough molecule, it just diffuses through. Is that correct?
Speaker 2:Oh, again, it can literally reach anywhere in the body. In fact, some of the first research was done on mitochondria and the benefits for hydrogen for the mitochondria. This is really important because mitochondrial dysfunction, in my opinion, is the source for many medical issues. And now you know, we're learning in the medical field that things like like metabolic disorders, you know, which, in my opinion, stem from the mitochondria. You know, again, the metabolism I've actually seen people who are quite overweight use hydrogen and start losing weight. I mean, it's it's one of these like byproducts. That's not really what it's necessarily intended for, but it works and it helps with losing weight and improving your metabolism and actually improving your energy. So it's been a very important thing too. So it's actually not just going in like vitamin C and antioxidant, uh, antioxidizing, indiscriminately, so it does it in a selective way, um, and yet we see that as function, as an again, an anti-inflammatory, um for cell signaling, um, you know numerous things like this.
Speaker 2:There is no scientist in the world that actually knows the full mechanistic action of hydrogen, of molecular hydrogen, so they don't totally know exactly how it's working. Personally, I have my own theories, but I haven't released them because the more I release information that hasn't been published. I will say that a lot of my stuff has actually literally been stolen from me, and then people have taken credit for my work, so I stopped say that a lot of my stuff has actually literally been stolen from me, and then people have taken credit for my work, so I stopped doing that, because I actually am the first person in the world that created specific protocols on how to use the hydrogen. Even the Japanese weren't doing this, nobody was and when I released it on one of my videos about two and a half months later, it was. It was stolen by some people and they did studies on it only to prove that I was right, that my method worked better than any method ever done, and so sometimes I'm cautious about what I say.
Speaker 2:But the point is, what they can see is how the hydrogen affects both humans and animals, so they can clearly see, like, for example, they can see how it affects people with diabetes, like regulating blood glucose, right, they can measure, for example, like blood pressure, like that was one of the things that this woman who I've been working with, who's almost 100 years old, is off of all her medications, and one of the ones that she was on was blood pressure medication.
Speaker 2:She was on it for almost four decades, almost 40 years of this stuff, and the doctors couldn't believe that I got her off that medication. They're just like, how in the world is this being achieved? And I've had a lot of experience with that my own father he was. It was really scary because he was on a medication called meloxicam which is highly damaging to the liver and I've known people who've died from it for liver failure actually, and it is used, you know, for things like arthritis for example, and I was really happy when the hydrogen got them off that medication because you know a lot of farm, we know, we know that a lot of pharmaceuticals are, you know, have their side effects and so, yeah, hydrogen has a lot of different things that it does in the body and the when you mentioned selective antioxidant.
Speaker 1:Could you expand on that a little bit? Selective, how, like what? Is it preferentially effective and not effective?
Speaker 2:So that's the wild part about it is nobody knows why it's selecting to antioxidize sometimes and not other times. Okay, depending on the situation. Personally, you know, to me hydrogen is the great balancer. So there's processes in the body like oxidant and antioxidant. You know a minus charge, a plus charge. You know all these things that are happening in the body, and I mean even things like, for example, glutathione. Right, we produce our glutathione. Too much. Glutathione is not good for you, and I've seen research where hydrogen will bring the glutathione down to the proper levels. And I've seen hydrogen research where the glutathione is not good for you, and I've seen research where hydrogen will bring the glutathione down to the proper levels. And I've seen hydrogen research where the glutathione will be low and it'll bring it up. So it just does it brings your body to homeostasis is literally what I've been observing. Not to ignore the fact, too, that our human body makes hydrogen. That our human body makes hydrogen, and one of the things that I've learned, through the research in Japan also, is that our hydrogen production in our body actually goes down as we get older. So it's important to keep those levels up.
Speaker 2:It's almost like a vitamin or a nutrient, but to me, it's even more essential in a lot of ways. I mean, I've been doing some things, even with my own body, because I was the original guinea pig, right, I mean, I was really sick. And one of the things that I've been doing with my protocols is I've been observing, I'm very well aware that most people are running around with deficiencies. Right, most people have some type of deficiency in something, some nutrient, maybe a mineral, and I was doing these protocols and I wanted to make sure one of my big goals was to overcome any nutritional deficiency, because we know I mean, the truth is in science and in the medical field and they don't talk about it a lot, but we know that certain nutritional deficiencies lead to disease, just like vitamin C, for example. If you're deficient in vitamin C, you're going to get scurvy, and in order to resolve scurvy, you don't go on a pharmaceutical, you just get your vitamin C right. And so I think this is oftentimes ignored, and so that's one of the things, one of my goals, that I did when I was doing my protocols, one of the things that I learned about hydrogen.
Speaker 2:As far as I can see from my own experience with myself and others, it appears to help the body do two very interesting things. One of them absorb nutrients better. That seems to be one of the things that I've noticed. It has a profound effect on the gut. I've worked with people with a lot of different gut issues celiac disease, crohn's disease, ibs, numerous gut conditions with amazing results. I've worked with people who literally this poor woman, just one of the people that I'm thinking of had spent about $170,000 throughout many years trying to resolve these gut issues and she just couldn't. And she found me. She went on my protocol. Six months later she called me. She said this is unbelievable. I am, my condition's completely gone. And she said it's just unreal and so huge profound effect on the gut and one of the things that I noticed through my blood work that I've been getting for so many years.
Speaker 2:I actually, the last time I got my blood work, the doctor called me. This doctor who had been studying she basically reads the lab reports and specifically, she specializes in the blood and she really worried me when she called me because, for those who have worked in the medical field know that usually they only call you when there's a problem and if there's not a problem they tend to not call you, so they don't have to call everybody. They get busy, right? So when she called me, I got really worried. I was like wait a second. Okay, what's going on? Tell me what's happening. And she said just calm down, relax, I'm not calling because there's a problem. And I'm like then why are you calling?
Speaker 2:She said of all the years that I've been doing this for over three decades. She said I've never seen blood like yours in my life. She said I had to call you. She said I have so many patients that I can't help. She said even my own daughter. And she started opening up to me and this is to be honest, with you I work. I've had numerous doctors contact me and it's something very common that they share with me is that they have their own medical issues or people in their family and they just can't fix them. And so she that's. She started opening up to me and telling me about her patients and her daughter and even herself. And she thought I was on some secret supplement. She's like what are you taking? Because this is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2:But the thing that intrigued her the most was the fact that I had no nutritional deficiencies. She said this is so unusual, I've never seen it. And then she got really and this is the one where I don't like to talk too much about, because the internet just goes out of control and I get a lot of hate mail about this one, which is the diet that I choose to follow and so she asked me about the food that I eat and I just told her a little bit about it and she immediately stopped me. She goes wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, she said. If you eat that way, she said it's impossible for you to have the level of nutrients that you're having. She said this doesn't make any sense. In fact, she goes how long have you been eating like this? Like six months? I said I've been eating like this for a decade. She said that's impossible, there's just no way.
Speaker 1:What was the specific blood work? What lab values was she commenting on that were so remarkable or that this has an effect on in particular? Was it any ones in particular?
Speaker 2:Well, the thing she was intrigued by the whole thing, but the biggest ones that she was absolutely blown away by, she said, was looking at nutritional deficiencies.
Speaker 1:So vitamin D levels, vitamin C levels.
Speaker 2:Everything I did, a full panel, all my yeah, everything it was pages and pages. It was pretty expensive.
Speaker 1:Related to absorption, then Okay, that makes yeah. Yeah, I mean. So just to recap, we covered a lot here. It's fascinating that, so I'm trying to like make sense out of it. It seems like one thing you've said is at at a mitochondrial level it can penetrate the mitochondria selective antioxidant within the mitochondria. And if you think about mitochondrial dysfunction, like you say, it's at the root cause of all the chronic diseases we have today, all the way from obesity, diabetes, hypertension, cancer, heart attack, alzheimer's disease, hypertension, cancer, heart attack, alzheimer's disease, even mental illness. All mitochondrial dysfunction, in my opinion, plays a major role. So this could be beneficial across the board for its effects on the mitochondria.
Speaker 2:But I think people need to see the link to the gut.
Speaker 1:And the gut too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the gut is is so important, and we have clear evidence on what hydrogen is doing for the gut, and this is irritable bowel syndrome, gut leaky gut, uh, gut dysbiosis, all those things would also improve with mitochondrial dysfunction improvement, um, I mean.
Speaker 1:so I'm just, I'm trying to like understand a model that you know as as a Western medicine, allopathic medicine, that I can sort of get my head around and make sense there and not to interrupt you, but even more because I've worked with patients already who have had TBI so like traumatic brain injury, and also dementia and Alzheimer's and the result blew my mind.
Speaker 2:I couldn't even believe that I've been doing this and that nobody knows about it, because I'm kind of a nobody out in the world, because I don't get on the biggest shows, whatever. It's always about who you know and whatnot. But basically, just to give you one example, I put the video, everything I show, everything for free on my YouTube channel. The only thing I encourage people to do is look, subscribe. It's free and it helps support what I'm trying to bring out into the world.
Speaker 2:And one of the things that I can tell you is I worked with a woman, this poor lady, she couldn't even recognize her own daughter. She was already in a facility being cared by nurses because she had dementia. You could see her eyes. They were just completely, you know, black. It looked like she. You couldn't see the white part of her eyes. I don't know why.
Speaker 2:I've noticed that pattern with with some people with a lot of disorders in regards to things like dementia and Alzheimer's, but one of the things that ended up happening is her daughter found out about me and she said do you think this could help my mom? And of course I'm like look, I don't make any claims, but I'm telling you hydrogen is amazing. So she went for it. She got back to me and I have the before and after pictures and pictures in between, and the story that her daughter wrote, because her daughter reached back out to me and she said, look, is this normal? I'm like, is what normal? Because as I read it, she's like my mother can now recognize me, she knows who she is again, she's recognizing her nurses, she's talking because she was just completely like, she was like a zombie, she was just not there anymore.
Speaker 2:It was unbelievable and the world doesn't know about this. This is incredible because in the medical field, I mean, there's medications for those type of issues, but they don't really help. I mean, come on, we know that dementia medications and Alzheimer's and stuff at least in my opinion, you know. And well, the data, it's true. I mean, you know they try to just slow it down, they don't try to reverse it. And this was I mean, again, I'm not making claims, but you can go. You know, I just read these people's emails and or the phone calls that I get sometimes about this, so it's been incredible for the brain.
Speaker 1:So many questions. So it's been incredible for the brain so many questions? Yeah, and it makes sense with neuroinflammation, which is the basis for neurodegeneration all the way from Alzheimer's to mental illness, to Parkinson's, and you know the argument that neuroinflammation plays a big role. In fact, apoe4 allele, which is the genetic mutation, one of the more common mutations for Alzheimer's disease, that gene was protective in our history because it made the brain reactive to it got inflamed to protect us from parasites. But today it gets inflamed and we get Alzheimer's or we get other things as well. So, yeah, I mean it makes sense from that.
Speaker 1:But I have to ask the question then you know, what is the resistance to this? Why, if this is so revolutionary and the reports are, you know, amazing what you're saying, but they aren't just that, they're anecdotal, they're case reports. What is the pushback on this? Why hasn't somebody taken this with? You know, take 20 stroke patients in an ICU and you know, or what is keeping people from gathering the evidence to in controlled studies? That would really launch this technology and people would embrace it. What's the pushback?
Speaker 2:Well, I think the first thing you should know is that in Japan, they already use this in university. There's about 30 university hospitals in Japan that are already using it medically, and one of the big things that it's used for is one it is used for heart conditions and heart attacks, which is really important because it actually helps. You know, when you have a heart attack, there's a specific enzyme produced that causes damage, and the hydrogen appears to be able to litigate that enzyme and basically keep it from causing damage to the body. They also use it for strokes. I've actually seen amazing results. I've worked with numerous people who've had strokes and the results are unbelievable, even to the point of one time this poor guy had three strokes, was in the hospital and basically a vegetable. Um. The wife heard of me, contacted me. She literally took the device that I use and recommend the best, because and I only recommend the best, that's just the way that I am I don't recommend cheap garbage because it doesn't work really Um, and also the potential dangers of using that kind of stuff. But she actually took the device to the hospital and put her. You know she had to get special permission, but they're like, all right, they let her do it. I was a little shocked about that and I'm not kidding, that within I think it was about four or five days, her husband woke up from the coma or not the coma, because of the stroke. He started being able to again like kind of wake up and react and talk and things of this nature.
Speaker 2:It was unbelievable and I can tell you some of the research. It's actually really fascinating. So, because what basically hydrogen is, in my opinion, is the key to all of life. Okay, see, if we look at, look at water, water is H2O. Okay, when you separate both of the H2 and O, we're talking about hydrogen and oxygen. All right, oxygen is actually an oxidant. Okay, that's why a lot of things like ros is reactive oxygen species.
Speaker 2:Right, the free radicals that cause a lot of issues and that's actually according to the japanese. That seems to be the main component of how this thing works is they discovered that 97 to 98 percent of all disease seems to come down to free radical damage. It's just where you're having it. If you have free radical damage in the liver, it's going to be a liver issue. Free radical damage, it's just where you're having it. If you have free radical damage in the liver, it's going to be a liver issue, free radical damage in the brain, brain issue wherever you have the free radicals. And so one of the big things too, that, as I was doing research in all this is I've also throughout my research yes, I look at the science, but I've actually been studying nature a great deal also, so this is something that actually happens naturally in nature. Have you ever heard of a place called Lourdes, france, or Lourdes France?
Speaker 1:Sure, I think our audience is probably familiar with that. Tell them what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so, basically, it's supposed to be what they believe like holy water, these magical healing waters of Lourdes.
Speaker 2:A lot of people researched it because there were so many people getting unbelievable results that they couldn't explain it. They thought it was just like placebo. No scientists could figure it out and it wasn't until the Japanese and I'm telling you, thank God for the Japanese, they're the ones who figured all this out. They basically figured out by testing the water that it had high levels of molecular hydrogen. Nature is doing this, and Lourdes, france, is not the only place. There's healing waters. In Mexico it's called Tlacote, mexico. In that place they tested it same thing high levels of molecular hydrogen. So it's clear as day. I have evidence too, like my video number eight. One of my more favorite things about hydrogen it's one of my absolute favorite things is how much it appears to protect the body. So, for example, I mean we all are coming into contact with things that are harmful to us. Maybe it's some pesticide or herbicide in our food, maybe it's something in the air, maybe it's something in your water Heck, maybe it's even the paint on your walls in your house, right, I mean there's stuff everywhere. And one of the things that I noticed about hydrogen throughout my research is how protective it is. Just to give you one example, if people were to go watch my video number eight, they're literally showing cells being exposed to things like chemotherapy and whatnot, and they were showing 90% cellular destruction. This is a major problem when you're going through something like cancer treatment. What they discovered is that they would give the hydrogen and then do the lab test. You would have 10% cellular destruction instead of 90. It was protecting the cells. In fact, I worked with a patient. This was a really sad one too. This woman had breast cancer and it was spread all over the place and they said she was terminal. She had like two or three months to live. She didn't have much time. She got on my protocol but she opted and there's information about this, this to do conventional treatment for her cancer from her doctors, even though they pretty much thought it would do nothing at this point, and nobody knows why. I actually know. I believe I know exactly why it works. But basically she did conventional treatment, but she did it with the hydrogen, and so what ended up happening is she virtually had no side effects from the treatment and her cancer went away so fast. She's still alive to this day.
Speaker 2:It's been like seven or eight years, um, and it was unbelievable, the results, just astronomical, you know. Um, absolutely blowing people's minds. Uh, hydrogen appears to be able to do. I mean, I did a video number 68, which was from a laboratory in Japan, by the way, uh, using actually the equipment that I use so same again, because it's the number one machine in Japan and it was a live blood analysis and what they saw as far as how it was affecting the blood. I still remember there was a doctor who saw the video and she said that's impossible, there's no way that hydrogen is doing that. And she went as far as buying the machine, taking it to her own lab doing the same test, because she wanted to prove me wrong so badly. All she did was prove me right and she became a huge proponent of hydrogen.
Speaker 2:In fact, she started giving it to her 93 year old mother because she was always giving her mother some type of new supplement or something new that she had discovered. Nothing was really working a lot for her mother. But her mother said that she always trusted her daughter because she's a doctor and she knows that she has her best intentions for her. Well, she did my hydrogen protocol on her mom and I guess her mom could barely walk. She would stand up, walk for about one or two minutes, it's all she could do. And after doing this protocol of mine she could literally stand up and walk for like five, six hours. And she, she actually told her daughter. She said, look, honey, whatever you give me, I never questioned, I just trust you. But this time I'm very curious because whatever you're giving me, it looks just like. It just looks like water and I have no idea what it is. But this is the one. This is making a huge difference. I can feel it. She goes what is this? And she's like it's molecular hydrogen, mom, you know. And uh, so that was kind of another funny story. I've done so many of these throughout the years and so, again, hydrogen to me appears to be the source, even the secret to life.
Speaker 2:In fact. This is really important because this has everything to do with a stroke. Let's say there's an ancient scripture. So I believe it or not? I even studied ancient scriptures to find my answers. I looked everywhere and I consolidated everything and created, obviously, my own protocols based on all this knowledge and science. There is an ancient scripture that says that life is in the blood. Okay, and this is so clear because if you wrap a rubber band around your arm and you don't get blood supply, it's going to die right. It's important for the blood to move. We know how important blood flow is.
Speaker 2:And remind me that in a second, because I want to talk to you about ghost vessels from research in Japan. It's really fascinating, but let me finish this thought first. So if you have a stroke and you're not getting proper blood supply to your brain, well, what's going to happen to that area of the brain? It's going to start to die right. And so one of the things that they discovered with hydrogen is they would literally put they actually had tanks of hydrogen on ambulances for certain hospitals in Japan already, and they were they would put these people on the hydrogen gas. The gas would obviously you're inhaling it and go straight to your brain. It would literally keep that area of the brain alive without any blood. If that can just blow your mind, and to me, the secret is obviously the hydrogen. And then what they would do is they restore the blood supply and then the people would basically make a full recovery. I've seen absolutely just crazy things in regards to this and going back to blood supply, are you aware of what ghost vessels are?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, believe it or not, it's actually a medical term, and what it is is. We have these vessels, these blood vessels, and it's important for our blood to reach the areas where it needs to reach to bring in nutrients and to bring in oxygen and, obviously, hydrogen and all these type of things. So, as we age, there's areas like you know a little baby, how plump it is, it's really hydrated, you know, and whatnot, and as you age, you're clearly more dehydrated. This is one of the reasons that elderly will get heat stroke so easily and whatnot.
Speaker 2:So what they realized was that the hydrogen was opening up these ghost vessels. So there are areas in the body that no longer get blood supply anymore. That's why they call them ghost vessels, kind of like a ghost town. There's no life there, there's no blood, and at the number one university in the world that researches hydrogen, which is Keio University in Japan, they discovered that the hydrogen would literally open up these ghost vessels and start getting blood supply in there again, which was unbelievable. They were just like what is going on here? This is absolutely bonkers, and so this is why I use the technique about getting certain nutrients in me and then proper blood flow and making sure that that blood's reaching proper places and, of course, the hydrogen gas goes where it really needs to go and do its thing. And it's just worked. There's so there are concepts that are so simple but have worked, so beautifully well.
Speaker 1:One of our audience is asking the about hydrogen, about hydrogen gas. You know the Hindenburg was full of hydrogen gas. It's flammable. What are the dangers or the downsides of this? What do you need to watch out for? Is there a risk with breathing hydrogen gas around open flames, or what do we have to worry about?
Speaker 2:It definitely can be if you do it wrong. So the equipment that I recommend, which is, again, the best in Japan, they know that if you make hydrogen. So again, they followed all the science that's actually how I found the device and they make the hydrogen at a 2% concentration, so 2% is actually not even flammable. Hydrogen is not flammable till about roughly 4%, so you couldn't even light it on fire if you wanted to. That's why it's safe for them to be able to sell it in homes. We talked about Brown's gas earlier, though, and I will say that there's been some very sad stories about some people who have been. I just want to be cautious about what I'm saying, because a lot of these companies don't like me to talk about it. But let's just say, ground gas is highly flammable, and you can imagine people who've been inhaling it and then what happens with an open flame. That happens, and it's disastrous. But the Japanese are smarter than that, and they knew that when they developed the equipment. So it's not flammable the way that they make it.
Speaker 1:We talked a lot about, about medical people have used uh this for medical uh indications, or they've used it in medical conditions, anecdotal reports and the possible benefits. What about? What about for regular people who are, you know, looking at health, wellness, longevity, like what's your protocol that you use? What's a typical protocol that somebody might use? On this daily. You know how do you, how do you consume it? Is it liquid gas? What? What are some of the possibilities?
Speaker 2:So here's the thing in my personal opinion, hydrogen is actually really important for preventative care. In fact, in Japan, that's one of the big things that the Japanese are big on, as compared to America's Western medicine, is that they're really big on preventative care, and preventative care is important. Look at your car. It's really good to prevent your car from getting rusted, because once it's all rusted, it's really hard to go backwards, right, it does make it a lot harder. So, as preventative care, I mean, there's not just benefits in regards to that, there's actually benefits. I think it's going to change the world because it's really good for athletics.
Speaker 2:They did a study on multiple soccer players in Japan and the results were unbelievable. Every single athlete improved their stamina and recovery time too. By the way, it triples the speed of recovery. From everything that I've seen. I broke my foot. I was told by the doctor just recently he's like it's going to take you three months at least to recover from this. I recovered in three to four weeks, you know. So triple the speed. It was exactly triple the speed, and that's just one of the many things that I've seen it be able to do.
Speaker 2:Because the other thing about using hydrogen see, as we're getting older. I think we all know that you're actually accelerating your aging as you get older. And there was a very interesting study that I saw in Japan where they literally could take your blood and they would roughly tell you your age right, the age of your blood and age you roughly are. And it was an interesting study because they took a gentleman and they had him drink, so they tested his blood first. Now he only did hydrogen water, but he did really good quality, super clean and proper levels of hydrogen water. He did that for one year and in one year they tested his blood again. They told him not to change anything in his lifestyle, so he changed nothing. He continued to eat the way he did, everything. He just lived normally. His blood was five years younger after one year of using the hydrogen.
Speaker 2:It appears to have a very anti-aging aspect to it from everything that I've been able to see and I actually have. I won't disclose the details right now, but there is actually a device Now. It'd be very expensive. It'd probably be in the range of $30 to $50 million. There's equipment that I would like to develop with proper engineers and whatnot, because I believe that this technology could actually resolve almost any medical issue in existence, and I know that's a bold statement. Again, it's just my opinion. You know I'm not making any claims by any means. I mean, this device doesn't even exist right now, but it's based on a lot of data that I've been accumulating throughout the years, and I also think the device could reverse aging in major ways.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm talking taking an 80 year old guy and making them 30 again. Well, certainly, if you fix mitochondrial dysfunction, you're going to have an effect on biological clocks and epigenetic measurements and aging, for sure. But well, I want to be respectful of your time, I think an important thing to discuss is there are a lot of these systems out there, from different manufacturers, different systems. What do we need to watch out for? If someone wants to explore this, what should they avoid? What should they look for in a product that does molecular oxygen?
Speaker 2:Molecular hydrogen. I'm sorry molecular hydrogen.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I was thinking of yeah.
Speaker 2:Molecular hydrogen. Yeah Well, the first thing I'll say is don't think that cheaper is better, because, like again, these little bottles that are out there, look where they're made. They try to hide the fact where they're made, but these are basically coming from China, right? Some people try to claim Taiwan or Korea.
Speaker 1:Not so cheap anymore with the tariffs, but that's. But now you hold that up and just explain is that a? Is that a molecular hydrogen generator, or what is that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little hydrogen bottle, but I've worked with too many people who've used this and they lose hope in hydrogen because it never worked. But my concern with these I mean, you can get these for like 40 bucks on Alibaba, right the problem is the metals and the membranes are the two biggest issues in my opinion, and because they use coated or plated metal, the other issue is they directly electrolyze the water the Japanese discovered. You have to understand that we're talking about a gas and when it comes to gases, you really want medical grade. I mean, think about it when you go to a hospital and they put you on oxygen. That's medical grade oxygen. And what people need to understand about medical grade is that it has to do with purity, right. So you don't want to drink tap water if you're trying to hydrate, right, you want the best, you want the cleanest water, at least in my opinion. I mean, I have lab reports and you and I will probably talk about it some other time, but it's really important how you make your hydrogen gas.
Speaker 2:What I've discovered is that the stuff from China, in my opinion, is just sadly not the way to go. They don't even have the metal technology required. In fact, there's only one company in the world that can make the metal for making this type of hydrogen is what I've discovered, and that's why the story is really fascinating of the device that I not only chose to use. I use many devices, to be honest, I use like tablets, which I don't recommend at all. Based on some lab reports that I saw, I can't believe they sell hydrogen tablets, but anyway, people are doing that, believe it or not, which is a chemical reaction. For the people who want to know about it because they're becoming popular, this is really important about hydrogen. Hydrogen is pH neutral, it's odorless, it's colorless and it's tasteless. These are the four important points of hydrogen. When you put hydrogen tablets in water, it makes the water very acidic. So it's not pH neutral, it's not odorless, it's not colorless and it's not tasteless.
Speaker 2:It literally doesn't follow any of the principles of molecular hydrogen, but they're very popular. In my personal opinion, I think it's just because of money. Sorry to say, but that's my personal opinion. No medical professional that specializes in hydrogen in Japan uses tablets as far as practicing physicians over there, but in America they're popular. The little bottles, again. They're not what I recommend, what I recommend or what I personally use, and it's actually what got my conditions to go away, especially the heart condition was the device from Japan. The official website's called holyhydrogencom for those who want to take a look at it.
Speaker 2:And the beautiful thing about the machine. There's so many things. I could go into the engineering aspect of it, because that's actually the most fascinating part, but I think I'd probably bore everybody, because that's actually the most fascinating part, but I think I'd probably bore everybody. But the machine basically makes the best hydrogen water there is and also makes really high pure hydrogen grade or medical grade hydrogen gas, so you can actually inhale it and the amounts are perfect because the amounts that they're doing are based on the science. Some people complain because people out there don't understand hydrogen. Everybody thinks more is better and what I've learned through being a hydrogen production specialist is that when you want to make higher amounts of hydrogen, you actually have to use higher amounts of electricity, and when you do that, it could potentially most likely start damaging the metal in the membranes. So when you're damaging those components, what do you think you're inhaling or drinking? So the key is balance, and all things are like that. Like you don't want too much vitamin D, for example, it could be toxic for you. You want the right levels, you don't want too low. Life is all about balance. You don't even want too much water. If you were to drink one or two gallons of water in a one hour period, you can actually potentially kill yourself. So life, again, is all about balance. And they figured out those perfect balances, and they also that company is the only company in the world that does this.
Speaker 2:They lab test and certify every single machine to make sure that it's making the correct amounts of hydrogen, because you can't test the hydrogen yourself. There are people out there who claim that you can do it with these little blue drops, but I've seen the blue drops be highly inaccurate. And so the Japanese, the professionals, don't use blue drops. They use equipment that's actually kind of expensive, that is actually made in Japan because it's it's the equipment requires so much calibration and maintenance regularly. So that's why they do the testing for you and certify the machine so that you know that it's making the proper amounts of hydrogen, which is one of the other reasons it's highly trusted by professionals in Japan.
Speaker 2:There's actually a neurosurgeon in Japan who's also a hydrogen specialist and he said it's the only machine that he'll use is the one from Holy Hydrogen and it's the only machine he recommends to his patients and there's no financial incentive for him. He just said it's the best and it's safe and it's going to be effective and it's just the best there is. But a lot of people don't talk also about the reliability. I know that this maybe sounds silly, but I didn't know this at first. I didn't realize the hydrogen machines break pretty easily because you're using electricity, the metal, the membranes. They don't have a very long life. So they developed when the japanese developed the best machine in the world, which is actually a super beautiful story.
Speaker 2:The guy who did it his own daughter was born with loup-garig's disease, so als, and she was actually in. He was informed that she was actually going to be lucky to make it to the age of five. Sadly, she was going to die and he knew about the hydrogen research, but there was no machine. There was nothing in existence that could really make like medical grade hydrogen, and so he put it upon himself. And one of the beautiful things in Japan that is not common throughout the world is they will help each other and support each other, like, for example, honda and Toyota will do things together to help each other, where a lot of times Ford and Chevy don't want to really work together right in America. In Japan, they're really big on unity and working together, and so what this guy did is he approached top engineers in Japan for help. He actually got Toyota, yamaha, g-shock and some very prestigious metal company that ironically exists in Japan and they have technology in regards to metallurgy that nobody in the world has they're unbelievable and so he got them to help him develop the best hydrogen machine in the world.
Speaker 2:So he looked at all the modalities of making hydrogen and he actually chose the most difficult one because it was the best and it took him many years to develop the device and people had advised him to go to China. They said go to China, you can make the device cheaper. It'll be way cheaper and he said no way. He said I want this done the right way, I don't care about the cost. He was really thinking about his daughter, actually and he said I'm going to do it all in-house, I'm going to do it all in Japan, everything's going to happen in Japan. And it became the number one machine in all of Japan. It's the only machine, by the way, in all of Japan that was fully engineered, fully hand built and lab tested in Japan. It's the only one. Nobody else does it because it's too expensive. That's why nobody does it.
Speaker 2:One of the it's a hard lesson that I've learned throughout this process, actually, rob is that I've learned that the reason that people like to go to China and do stuff is because it's so cheap. And, yes, they cut corners, usually in order to make bigger profits. So it kind of begins to be kind of like the pharmaceutical industry it's all about profits. Sometimes, you know and this guy didn't do it that way, he did it from the heart and it's a very unusual thing to see, but it ended up literally becoming such a beautiful piece of work. In fact, they've done numerous things that are deemed impossible. They're actually structuring the hydrogen, which nobody in the world does, and they're creating what they call now sticky hydrogen and crazy nano bubbles. So they were actually achieving things that they thought should. Well, technically they should be impossible, but yet they're achieving them and they found out through all their laboratory testing. So there's nothing that comes close to that machine. It's the only one that I also recommend and it's also the only one that I use.
Speaker 1:And, to be clear, this is, it's a consumer device also, so individuals can purchase this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the beautiful news.
Speaker 1:Right Is that right.
Speaker 2:Because in Japan sometimes you're limited to some of the things you can buy in Japan for medical use. Luckily, in America we're okay. They have. They literally have what's called the premium edition, which is one that only certain medical centers can use in Japan, but in America anybody can buy it and that's actually what I use, and a lot of the healing centers that I know of in the US are using them, and even some other places throughout the world.
Speaker 1:What's your protocol for yourself? I mean you just get up in the morning and drink some, drink some hydrogen water or breathe some hydrogen gas, or is it as needed when you're symptomatic or what? What does it look like?
Speaker 2:So I use it regularly.
Speaker 2:So one of the things that I do, I'll give you my morning protocol. So I wake up and the very first thing I do is actually I'll grab a toothbrush with no toothpaste, just wet the toothbrush, brush my teeth for 10, 20 seconds, really quick, and brush the inner surfaces of the mouth. Because what was discovered in Japan so this is part of my protocol they discovered that we actually grow bacteria, even cancer causing bacteria, in our mouth when we're sleeping. So when people wake up in the morning and they just drink something or eat something, they're inadvertently ingesting this stuff. So the first thing I do is just clean my mouth very simple, 20 second brush. Then the next thing I do is I the very first thing on an empty stomach is I drink the hydrogen water and I drink, you know, specific amounts, but remember, it really is going to depend on the individual to some extent, because some people who have maybe kidney issues or or some people who don't want to put down or can't put down a certain amount of water, but I drink. I personally drink about one liter. So you know, according to the medical science, you know, one liter in one hour is about the maximum, because once you start going over that amount of water it kind of begins to strain the kidneys. So that's one of the things that I've stuck to. And then I wait about half an hour and I actually make what's called a. It's a very specific. I make what's called a hydrogen smoothie.
Speaker 2:The reason I came up with this some a lot of the data that's coming out of Japan that even led to medical discoveries about the importance of fiber. Fiber has so many important functions that it's absolutely mind blowing. So I I knew that I wasn't getting enough fiber, so I did these massive smoothies with a lot of fruits and vegetables and nuts and seeds and and some nutrients that I put in there. I was able to achieve all the things that I've achieved, both for myself and other people, literally without using virtually any supplements. So I do almost no supplementation and I make these smoothies and then a lot of times I'll inhale the hydrogen gas while I'm having my smoothie. So that's part of one of my techniques and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:And the only the only thing I would caution people because some people say are there any contraindications? And this is really important. First of all, do hydrogen correctly. You know, don't cheap, don't do, at least in my opinion don't do the hydrogen tablets, don't do the cheap little bottles. You got to do the proper equipment. That's the first thing, again, in my opinion while I'm eating I don't know if you've ever seen the data about how we know that with each meal, it kind of causes us to age more and more. I don't know if you've ever seen that data or not. So there's a correlation between eating and aging, and so this is why I'm really big on food that is very easy for the body to digest. But also, again, high amounts of fiber are now very important to me, based on a lot of the data. So that's just a little bit of some of the techniques and protocols that I've been using, and that's great.
Speaker 1:Well, now, once again, what is the name of the company that makes this machine that you recommend, or what's the name of the machine, and to make sure you get something official.
Speaker 2:The website is holyhydrogencom, and the reason I say official is because the machine became so huge and so popular in Japan and not just Japan, even China, by the way. So it's funny, the Chinese want to use the Japanese machine, they don't want to use their own stuff. And I found out that they created some black market ones which are not using the proper technology. They're actually not using the right metal, they're not using the right membranes, and I discovered that because some people were buying machines, you know, off the internet that weren't official and they thought they were, because they look almost identical really. And then they started having issues with the machines and they even rusted up and stuff, and so they contacted me and I found out that there are black market ones. So, just you know, make sure that if you're going to get something good, that you get the real feel.
Speaker 1:Well, we're almost out of time here. Is there anything that we didn't cover today? I think you're going to be back we're going to talk about again. Actually, I may reach out to the company and see if we can get one in the studio here and we can test it out on the air in one of these episodes there, if you want. But anything we didn't cover that you want to, you want to mention?
Speaker 2:You know, the only thing that I would say is look, the only way. This is this to me, this is very important because there's many people suffering from medical conditions Okay, and a lot of people don't understand hydrogen. There's so many people talking about it these days, but from what I can see, they don't actually really understand. They'll talk about the science, but they don't talk about the production method, which is super important. Just like growing vegetables, you can't just say vegetables are all good for you. Some are sprayed with pesticides and herbicides and God knows what, and then you can get other ones that are rich in minerals, good soil, all organic.
Speaker 2:It does matter how it's produced, and so what I would suggest or encourage people to do is please share this information right, tell other people about it, subscribe to my channel. It's absolutely free. I bring all the latest data that I possibly can. Support the channel by giving a thumbs up and sharing and subscribing, and all of it's free. It doesn't cost anybody anything. Know, a grassroots movement. It's the only way that I've been able that. I think that this will be able to get the word out. Otherwise, you know, I really don't see. I've been doing this for years already and it doesn't seem to be getting out there without people's support.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and tell us the name of your channel again. So I want to make sure everyone gets that and we'll put in the show notes as well, but thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2:This will. This is what I encourage people to do. One, I'm on YouTube, I'm on Rumble, I'm on Twitter and X and I'm on Instagram. All the greatest info that I release is on YouTube, but I wouldn't subscribe to all of them, because I have been threatened and my channel has been trying to take down multiple times and it probably will be taken down at some point. So the only way you're going to find me again is if you subscribe to all of them and you go and find me again and I'll tell you the name of the new channel that I'll create, but basically the name of the channel is Uprising144k.
Speaker 1:Why are they taking it down? What is the issue?
Speaker 2:So I've done a lot of things in regards to health. So I was doing videos, for example, about ivermectin, way before COVID. I've known about ivermectin for a long time. Obviously, the Japanese created that. A lot of people don't know that it was actually something called ivermectin before it became ivermectin, and people will be shocked to realize that hydrogen is what transformed it from ivermectin to ivermectin, by the way, and so, and even the effects that hydrogen appears to have on parasites and stuff. But basically, just a lot of people attack my channel. A lot of companies don't like me pointing out you know that I wouldn't use products like hydrogen pills and stuff like that. So you know, sadly I upset a lot of people, which is not my goal. I just want to give people the truth, but everybody kind of fights against that truth and so I have to be really cautious and I always have to get my disclaimers and everything's my opinion. You know I make no claims about anything, so stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been a real pleasure. I mean, I'm glad to get your, your opinion out here in this, this area about. You know molecular hydrogen. I think it's. It's fascinating. It sounds like there's a lot of questions still unanswered, you know a lot of things we need to know, but it's really. I think it deserves some attention and I'm certainly going to take a closer look at it. But anyway, thank you, greg, so much for spending time with us today and I appreciate all the work you're doing.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. Thanks again for having me on, and I really really sincerely hope that this information reaches the people who need it and can hopefully help them in their lives, because there's nothing worse, at least to me, than suffering from medical issues. I've been down that road and it is such a painful road, and so I really hope that this can help others, because that's the thing that brings me the greatest joy in life is being able to.