Niver Niver Land

Restaurants, Reality, and Not Martyring Ourselves with Brandon Hoy (Roberta's Pizza)

Season 13 Episode 3

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Brandon Hoy, co-founder of Roberta’s Pizza, joins Tim on this episode of Niver Niver Land after discovering a clip of Tim talking about how different (and more difficult) the restaurant industry feels today compared to a decade ago.

That moment sparked a deeper conversation.

In this episode, Tim and Brandon talk about:

  •  what it actually takes to run a restaurant right now 
  •  how trends and consumer behavior have shifted 
  •  the mindset required to stay in the game long-term 
  •  restaurants as product vs. restaurants as art
  •  why a restaurant should be treated more like a child that needs guidance than a machine 
  •  and the importance of learning not to martyr ourselves in this industry 

This is a grounded, honest conversation between two operators who have lived the highs, the lows, and everything in between.

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