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Unpacked with Ron Harvey
From Drill Sergeant to Headshot Master
Ron Harvey welcomes Michael Woodland, owner of Essential Headshots, to explore how his military background shaped his leadership approach and entrepreneurial journey in professional photography.
• Military discipline and structure provided valuable foundation for business ownership
• Michael's father instilled the drive to be the best: "If your job is to tie shoes, be the best shoe tier out there"
• Reinvestment in self-education was crucial for developing photography expertise after military retirement
• Social capital and authentic relationships form the foundation of business success
• The military taught direct communication, which needed adjustment for civilian business interactions
• Active listening is Michael's "secret weapon" for connecting with clients and understanding their needs
• Trust is established through consistent delivery of quality, integrity, discipline, and respect
• Leaders must recognize their weaknesses while leveraging others' strengths for organizational success
• Authenticity matters more than following trends—leaders should "stick to what they know" while adapting
Contact Michael Woodland at 803-237-2536 or find Essential Headshots on social media as @esntlheadshots and at www.esntlheadshots.com
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Welcome to Unpacked Podcast with your host leadership consultant, ron Harvey of GlobalCore Strategies and Consulting. Ron believes that leadership is the fundamental driver towards making a difference. So now to find out more of what it means to unpack leadership, here's your host, ron Harvey.
Speaker 2:Good morning. This is Ron Harvey, the vice president and the Operating Officer for GlobalCore Strategies and Consulting. We own a leadership firm, professional Leadership Development, in Columbia, south Carolina. If you're following the show and you've been following it you know that's what we're based out of. We love what we do and our entire business is about helping leaders be better connected to the people that actually run their business and help them be successful and take care of their clients and their customers and build the relationships so they can be successful. Our job is to make sure the leader is just as good as their team is, and that's what we spend all of our time helping you grow, helping you understand, helping you communicate, deal with conflict, hire right. You know, if you have to transition from people, how do you transition in an effective, respectful way? So we spend all of our time helping you be really, really good. If you're in a leadership role, you can find us on LinkedIn and you can always go to our website. At the end of the day, we care about making sure that you're really effective as a leader. But what I pause?
Speaker 2:Every single Monday we release an episode and it's called Unpacked, with Ron Harvey, and this episode, really, I invite guests from around the world, all backgrounds, to talk about the thing that we do, which is leadership, which we truly believe as an organization, that leaders do make or break organizations break communities or schools or whatever you may want to find it. So I always love leaders coming on and having this conversation. I will tell you, every guest comes on without any questions in advance and we just have a real conversation with you. So I'm super excited to have Michael join us today. I mean, he's nearby and close by and does phenomenal work, but I won't steal any thunder from him and I'll let him at this time. Come on on, mike, and welcome to the show, michael. Love for you to introduce yourself to our audience and then we'll dive into the conversation once you're done.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, first of all, let me say thank you for having me on your show and to everybody else. My name is michael woodland. I'm with essential headshots and that's what we specialize in headshot photography. So a lot of times you see me walking around the city. When I walk up to introduce myself to people, if I'm feeling silly or I just want to have fun with the conversation I started off with like, hey, I'm columbia's best headshot photographer, or I'm the best headshot photographer in the midlands, you know, and it's just something to get the conversation going, you know, to break the ice a little bit yes, yes, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Man, thank you for being on and I bet you um, and you're in columbia, you're doing things and you're a business owner and you're working hard. You know work ethic and really pleasant to work with and talk to. Every time I've met you it's been a great conversation and you got on a blue shirt. So I really like you know, because I'm all blue, global core blue, so I like the fact we didn't even plan this y'all.
Speaker 2:He got on a blue shirt, so he kind of wheeled me over already, you know, normally, uh, when I walk around town I always wear a white button-up shirt.
Speaker 3:So all my friends they always talk about, like every time they see me, the white shirt is always like super bright, extra crisp, and today I was just like. You know, it's kind of cold outside, let me just wear blue, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I like it. We all do a good start already. I mean people say I can wear blue shirts more than any other color.
Speaker 2:So that's my company. You know I wear blue, I love blue, I'm the company logo and all this stuff is blue. So good to have you on, man. I appreciate it. As we go through the podcast. You know you're running a business and you're doing headshots. You know we talk a lot about leadership. We talk about business. We really will end up wherever the show allows us to go at. But you've been in business and you're here in Columbia when you think about, like, how you got to become an entrepreneur, what were the things that made you decide, hey, I want to do this and this is why I'm doing it. What made you get into being a business entrepreneur?
Speaker 3:Well, for, me, it was just a challenge, something I wanted to do, and I didn't realize how much fun I was going to have with photography until I actually started doing it. Because you know my whole life, right after high school, like a year after high school, I went into the military. I retired in 2017. And because I bought a house when I was here in Columbia, stationed at Fort Jackson, as a drill sergeant, I still had the house, so I moved back here and the endeavor it was like overwhelming for me because when I first got out, I was teaching firearm safety because I was infantry and, you know, expert in firearms and everything and I was traveling around the country doing competition, shooting a sport called USPSA yes, and what an organization called USPSA. And I had picked up a couple sponsors because I was pretty good at it and one of my sponsors wanted me to do a product review on some coffee. I did a product review on the coffee. They fell in love with it, so they asked me to take some pictures and I was like, too easy.
Speaker 3:I got all these cameras for the YouTube channel and that's when I realized I didn't know how to take a picture. From that moment I went straight to Midlands Tech and I was like hey, when's your next photography class? This was in October of 21,. October, november of 21. They said the class started in January of 22. So the class at Midlands Tech was from January to March and in the class I didn't have no idea what type of photography I wanted to do. I just know, I just need to know how to do photography, and but it's a long story about how I got into it. So I ended up starting a business April 1st of 22.
Speaker 2:Awesome Congratulations. I love that you've had a career before you got here and you got out and things just showed up in front of you and you realized that you needed to know how to do it. If you're going to do it, you want to learn how to do it right. How important is it for you, if you're going to be in business or you're going to be a leader, to learn your craft as leaders and you're a CEO, so I'll lean into that piece of it. How important is it for you to be really good and go get the training or the education? How important was that to you and why did you? What made you think that way?
Speaker 3:I think I was always cursed with wanting to be the best you know, and then, of course, anybody in the military. You already know you can't be lazy and the people that are lazy are going to get tossed off to do the stuff nobody else wants to do. But the best is always going to showcase what they've done. And I think that was just something that was instilled into me when I was young, because my dad always told me hey, I don't care what you decide to do in life, be the best at it. So if your job is to tie shoes, you better be the best at it. So if your job is to tie shoes, you better be the best. Two shot shoe tire out there. You go carve potatoes you better be the best carver out there, you know.
Speaker 3:So that was always something that that stood with me, because you know, from that generation of my parents, it was always hard work and that's what me and my brother always seen was like our parents doing hard work, especially like different people in the community that was trying to foster, you know, whatever avenue they was doing for positivity, and it was just something that that stuck with me. So for me I'm not too proud to say I don't know how to do something, but let me go figure it out. And, um, even like when I took that photography class and getting into headshots, I knew, okay, in order for this to succeed for me, I have to do go above and beyond. But I have to demonstrate that I am the best and that's just time and repetition. But you have to reinvest in yourself to even get to that. You know that. That focus point to be considered, that because even when you look at sports athletes Michael Jordan, kobe Bryant how much time did they have to reinvest into themselves to be the best in the sport? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I love that you're dropping. You know a thing that you know you do the headshots and you're working really hard to be the best at it. You know. So you have a high standard for yourself and always on this podcast try to hear. What is the question? Based on what you're saying, what do I unpack for our audience to really grow and gleam? You know whether we use a photographer, whether we're using food. You talked about investing yourself in time. How important is it to have that discipline, to invest in yourself and invest the time to be able to build up the skillset. What would you tell people that are listening that are thinking like how do I get here? Because there's no shortcut, like really, there's really no shortcut to get there. There's this thing called invest in time. How important is it? What would you share with people that are listening about how important that was and continue to be important to you?
Speaker 3:Well, it's the light. I'm running to the light, right. So that's the important factor to me is running to the light. But the goal is you have to to set a goal and the goal. You can't do it all in one swoop, so you got to do a little bit at a time and every little bit that you do is going to make that light a little bit closer. Getting closer to that light, um, education and just different perspectives.
Speaker 3:So what's that old saying if you know it all right, you're not a student of the game anymore.
Speaker 3:Wow, right. So you, you have to read the books, you have to listen to people, like if you ever noticed, like when I first met you, you notice how I just sat there and I was just like listening to you, and then everybody's looking at me, all crazy, and I was like, no, this dude, he has the, the golden ticket. I want that golden ticket, you know, because of you already done the bumps and bruises of everything. So you've met your goal, but you're still pushing that limit to go further. So I want to get there and in order for that to happen, I do know I have to listen to people who succeeded. I have to try new things. I have to take myself out of my comfort zone even though it's uncomfortable. But I'm not scared of failure either, you know. But education is the. I want to say as far as meeting my goal limit, that probably 80 of it, the rest of it is interaction with other people and getting the education and trying new things to perfect my craft.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it, I love it, you. You you mentioned meeting people and I call that, you know, I call it social capital. You know, if you've been around me long enough, you're in rooms, you you know. The one thing I really push really hard on there, michael, is social capital, which I mean relationships. How important is it for leaders to have really healthy, authentic relationships that benefit everybody that they're in a relationship with? How important has it played a role in your life having healthy, productive relationships?
Speaker 3:Very important. Very important Because you can't do it by yourself, you can't do nothing by. Everything is off the the wording or the support of others. Um, just like, if you go to a restaurant out of town, right, you're going to ask people, hey, what do you think about this restaurant? So word of mouth is always going to be your number one factor with all that. But, um, just meeting people and getting them to trust because that's the portion of when you meet people is the trust factor because, yeah, like when I first met you.
Speaker 3:I was like, yeah, I do photography. And he was like, okay, I know a lot of photographers, but I was like, well, give me six months and I'm gonna show you something different. I didn't know where to go. I was stumped right there, you know, but but only because of I knew I was doing something different.
Speaker 3:A lot of photographers in the area you know, but now it's like when people say my name or they recommend my company to people, I'm already trusted and validated through a lot of people, you know. So I try to make the process seamless, as easy as anything. Anybody can come in and get out. But the thing is is when you talk to somebody who came to me already, that trust factor is already put into place.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, I love it. You know trust is a huge part of it, breaks or breaks just about anything. As you're listening to us, trust is huge for here. Something else that you did when we met the first time and I can remember the time we met at Miller's Tech and I was invited in to just share, I mean, I love giving back to people because it's a journey and if you're a couple of steps ahead for everyone, that's listening. Your goal is to help somebody else, like regardless of how successful you are, so I love giving back and reaching out and coming to those programs. The one thing I really appreciated about when you approached me is you receive feedback. How important is it for leaders to be able to receive feedback, even if the person doesn't deliver it well or they're negative when they do it? How do you turn a negative comment or something that doesn't feel good and receive it well so you can grow? How do you get feedback?
Speaker 3:and make it effective. Um well, let me, let me look at it from the standpoint of like. When we were talking yes, right, and that night when you was talking, you actually said relationships are the most important factor of your business, because you can't step into a room and then with that negative connotation going against you that can ruin your business. Technically, what you said is the same thing my grandmother said to me when I was younger Sit back, listen and then you make your moves, you make your approach. I was like, okay, that was very important to me, moving forward and the important factor of everything, like I said, it always goes back to respect and active listening. Yes, same thing we did in the military, you know, because the thing is in order for me to solve your problem, I have to listen to you to make it work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I love it. For leaders, leaders listening is a key skill force when you think about it, as you look at what you're doing in your business and you're doing headshots. Help us understand, as an audience, the value of the work that you're doing to give people professional headshots, to help them show up the way that they want to show up to lead the people they want to lead, because images are super important. Can you connect the headshots to leadership?
Speaker 3:Yes, the connection is in order to be a leader, you want to be relatable, you want to go ahead and give off a genuine you know, realistic trait characteristic with that picture right. And the only way I can do that is through conversation and the interaction I have with you. So if you come in like I tell people I'm not going to do the military shot for you because that's not going to work in business, yeah, we don't even follow the military.
Speaker 2:But those of you that don't have a military background, you don't smile on any photos. You probably never get promoted if they catch you smiling on the smile in the military. But those of you that don't have a military background, you don't smile on any photos. You probably never get promoted if they catch you smiling on a photo of the military. Everything is like very stoic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like you're stone-faced the whole time I had to wear a hat.
Speaker 2:Smile when I came out of uniform.
Speaker 3:But I tell everybody that because some people come in and like, I like the serious looks and I was like, okay, so what do you do for work? Oh, if you want clients to come to you, you need to be a little bit more approachable. Right, a smile is the easiest way to get somebody to approach you. You know so and of course, you know the whole coaching of it is one aspect. But for me, coming out of the military and then reading all these psychology books and how to do this and how to coach this and how to train that, it's different. Because you know, in the military, you know we're straight, hey, a, b, c, go. You know. But now I gotta be like, oh, okay, look, um, let's try this, yeah. And then I gotta say something like silly to get a reaction out of. Then, once the fun starts, it's easy after that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow. So so what's the major like when you kicked off, you introduce yourself and you talk about so, for those you know listening, you're talking to a former drill sergeant. I was never a drill sergeant, but everybody has a story of their drill sergeant. Just talk to anybody in the military. They've. They've never seen a drill sergeant smile. They've never seen him be silly. And if you got caught smiling by the drill, sorry, there was a problem. So how did you make the shift? Because there's this thing that you live up to, because it's your job and it's your role and it's important. But how did you make the shift from being this correct and direct?
Speaker 3:Everything's a matter of fact to, to shift into. I need to be more approachable. What was that shift for you? It was always easy for me because I was silly. When I was a kid, I was a class clown and I was just naturally silly, but I like to have fun. When I went to the military, I knew how to turn it off and on, because once you get in trouble so much for being silly you know when to be serious with it. That's how it worked for me. So I just took that same you know characteristic that I learned from my younger years, applied it to the military and then, you know, like I said, I could turn my facial expressions off and on. I could get serious in the mind of a dom.
Speaker 3:You know, and that's just from the military in general. Of course, it took a long time for me to reverse that when I got out of the military, because I was so in tune to being like hey, being so direct, and have changed the way I talk and everything else. But it was just, once again, it was a time factor, but I had to reconnect. So when I first started my business, it was hard for me because I'm still thinking the military way. But once I got around people and I understand like whoa, why are they talking to each other like that? No, hold on, I'm not in the military, no more. Yeah, so, hey, let's go to lunch a few moments that we can talk and just talk about this. Military is like hey, come to my office nine o'clock, don't be late. 901. You late, you know so, but that's, that's how I actually ended up.
Speaker 3:You know doing it. It's just I literally had to study everybody around me as far as business goes, and I'm looking at how people are interacting. So I have to reprogram myself because you've done something for over 20 years. It's now a factor of your life.
Speaker 2:I love it, Leaders reprogramming based on the need and what environment you find yourself in. Michael's been real polite. He's been nice. He said 901, you're late. No, let's be real, Michael 901,.
Speaker 3:You're late. No, let's be real. Michael 9-1, you get the tables thrown at you.
Speaker 2:If you show up at 9 o'clock, you're late, it's 15 minutes early. The military has a whole other mindset. I'm thankful for it. I served 21 years and truly made me grow up and mature and learn a lot. You also had to ship there's a requirement years and truly made me, you know, grow up and mature and learn a lot, you know. But you also had to shift. You know. So there's a requirement for when you're in uniform how that looks, you know. So nine o'clock you are already late. You know you hurry up and wait, get there 15 minutes early, and if you're early you're never late. So the military taught you that. Then you have to learn how to figure to make that shift so you don't lose the audience that you're trying to make.
Speaker 2:So what is it about us as leaders? As you grow and you mature and you go from organization or department to department or you're dealing with five generations in the workforce what do you need to bring, as a leader, to the table to make the connection with the people you're responsible for or responsible to? And it's never a one single approach, ever. So if you think that how you show up is the way that you're going to always show up and they just better adjust to you. That command and control mentality across the is over and we got to figure out a way to connect with these people that we're responsible for. So, if you're listening, just ask the people around you what they need from you and the best way to be a good leader for them.
Speaker 2:I shift a little bit as you, as you think about mentoring and your growth and you're in business. Mentoring and your growth and you're in business how important has mentoring been for you? You know, as an entrepreneur or even in your days of just grooming yourself and growing as a leader, how important, what role did mentoring play?
Speaker 3:oh man, that was the biggest factor when I started my business because, you know, mentoring in the military is totally different, because the previous leaders, who were privates, now are the leaders. They are telling you what to do to make your career advance. Business is totally different because, when I talk to you, your vision of photography is different from my vision of photography because I I'm doing it a little bit more. You know, hands on, but how you look at it, you're going to talk about it from your leadership perspective and how it could possibly help you. Different people in the city, like the mayor I love talking to him because every time I talk to him it's a fresh perspective and obviously I know he doesn't get behind the camera, start pushing the button, but the way he talks and he like takes a chunk out of his leadership style and gives it to you. So it's just like.
Speaker 3:Anything else is, when somebody talks to you, you're gonna put whatever resonates with you in your kit bag. The rest of it you might just sit it and come back to it later. Yeah, you know so, like whenever, like I'm gonna keep it real. When I was younger, I used to talk to the winos when I was a kid. Yeah, my brother used to always get on me about that and my brother's younger than me, like why are you always talking to the winos? And I was like yo man, like they could have been a genius and it's just. Whatever turn in their life made it. So I talked to anybody, I listened to anybody, but I just have this, this thing where people talk to me, I take whatever they say and I keep whatever resonates with me. The rest of it are you put it on the back burner or I just come back and visit it later yes, yes, I love that, because everyone has a story, everybody has something that that's a value as you listen.
Speaker 2:so, leaders, everybody in your team has something to say and you'll be amazed how much you can learn if you just listen. Yes, what was for you as a leader?
Speaker 3:and it can you know what's the biggest challenge you've ever faced as a leader and how?
Speaker 2:did you overcome it? Ooh, military or photography, either, or I'm okay, I mean now, being that you're in business and you're making that transition already. I would probably say what would be helpful for the audience is your current life, as you look at where you are now, who you are now and the people that listen to us. What's been the biggest challenge you faced in the last three years that you had to overcome, and how did you do it?
Speaker 3:Selling myself to the public that was very difficult for me because that was very difficult for me, because the shift for me was somebody always told me okay, you need to make this happen. Yes, put the plan together, get in front of people, okay, this is what we're going to do, all right. And then we execute, make it work. Selling myself, now I have to convince you like, hey, this is what I do and why you should come to me. So it was like a double-edged sword, because if I say the wrong thing or if I talk to you nervously, I don't look you in the eye. I just lost a potential client. So that was the hardest thing for me you know.
Speaker 2:So that was the hardest thing for me, but, um, and I think, what do you? What do you manage to do? I mean, thank you to be a transparent, because that's what the show is really about, because sometimes people will see people that have a background of being successful or, on out appearance, with all the social media, people think everything's true and it's not, but sometimes we make it look easier than it was. How did you manage to overcome that and are you still working on it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm still working on it. The only thing I can really say is how I overcame it was just talking to people, but I listened more than I talked, and that's probably one of my secrets that I have. I'll say something, but I'll just get enough to get the conversation going. Now I'm listening to you, I'm listening for keywords, I'm watching your body language and then as soon as I realize like, oh, this is what you really, okay, that's too easy. Now I know how to talk to you and make it a little bit easier for me, know how to talk to you and make it a little bit easier for me, but the whole act of listening, that's probably 98% of it for me.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not a secret anymore because you can put it on this podcast and we're going to broadcast your secret.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's it. I just got to come up with a new one. I just got to come up with a new one now. Hey, we're going to let that cat out of the bag he's going to get you started.
Speaker 2:He's going to be quiet. He's taking notes.
Speaker 3:So I do a hand-in-arm signal when I talk to people.
Speaker 2:So now you got it public. Now, michael, I'm going to be quiet and listen to you now. So when you think about you know you're in business, you're an entrepreneur I want to lean into, as people are listening and people watch from all over. If someone can help you build your business to what you want it to be, what would be the ideal thing you would need from the community, or from people that are watching and listening, for you to really grow your business? What is it that will turn the corner for you to really elevate it at the level that you dream of it being?
Speaker 3:Well, capital will always be the number one resource you need to make everything happen the way you need it to happen, but obviously you're going to have to have more people come through the door to spend more money and it's just getting getting that recognition of who you are, what you do and why you do it. And then, of course, I've always said for what I do, there is no business. That should not be able to use a form of photography in some type of way.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes so to toot your horn here. I know you're pretty humble and that's great, but I also tell leaders that humble is good until it makes you invisible. So you kind of toot your horn here and got it from the military to teach us that too, as well. Be very humble and let everybody else say it You're in business. I would love for you to tell us what makes your business different. I want you to highlight yourself. What are the things that make it we should do business with your organization, versus if I was running a business and you and I were in the same industry, what are you bringing to the table that says, hey, these are the top three reasons why we would be a great partner for you to ensure you get the best headshots possible.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah, well, I know I bring loyalty to the table, so I look at myself as part like the bartender, like how everybody spilled their beans to the bartender.
Speaker 2:Yes, they tell everything.
Speaker 3:So a lot of people spill their beans with me in there, meaning when they end the session with me.
Speaker 3:I never disclose what I talk about with anybody. Integrity, I'm going to tell you exactly what you're going to get, how you're going to get it. I don't hide behind a bush or anything like that Discipline. I follow a strict format and that format is in place to protect you and me both. Format is in place to protect you and me both. You know, because if you come in and you start trying to take over, I lost control. Now it's not going to be what it should be. You know, um, selfless service, you know so. I'm always I put the client before me because in order for you to get what you need, I understand, understand, I have to bend.
Speaker 3:So I don't have a problem with that Honor. I'm going to respect everybody that comes through the door, regardless of what your views are or how you look at me, because if you came to me, there was a reason you came to me, so I'm not going to entertain any nonsense. You know anything like that and, as personal courage, I wake up every day telling myself I'm going to be the best today. So, of course, when you come in, that's what you're going to get. You're always going to get my best whenever we do any type of interactions with each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know you said three, but that was like six, yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you for sharing you know, because, as people are looking forward, everybody has choices, whether your business or my business, people have choices. And how do you put your best foot? If you're listening, people have a choice. If you're their leader, you can get promoted. But don't mean people follow you Right.
Speaker 2:What is it that you're bringing that will encourage and people want you to be their leader? Or people want you to be a good business partner, or people want to bring you in to do the work that they do leadership development, or bring Michael in for headshots. What is it that you do that attracts people to us? And I will tell you that's super important for all of us to answer every single day, and the world is changing fast. So, if you're listening from the lens of an entrepreneur, or if you're listening from being a leader in corporate America, or if you're listening from from running a spiritual organization or a nonprofit, what is it that you show up as a leader that people literally say they want you to be their leader, and what is that about?
Speaker 2:And I think that's important for all of you that are listening to our show today, as Michael is talking about him as an entrepreneur. You know how does he get people in the door. So he gave you six things that he's guaranteed to deliver every single time. I want to shift a little bit for you as you think about leadership, and there's a big vacuum right now where we're making sure that leadership is solid. What do you think the most current challenges that leaders are having in today's society? What's the biggest challenges you see that people are having when it comes to leadership?
Speaker 3:Everybody's well, not everybody. What I've noticed in this area, some people are trying too hard to blend in instead of sticking to what they know and what works for them. Everybody's trying to do the latest and greatest. Instead of whatever formula works for you, stick with that. Add one or two things to see if it works. If it doesn't cut sling load, Go to something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, love it, love it. Stick to you. There's only one you. So you know, be authentic and be true to yourself, right? Is there anything that that that you want to share? You know we'll get ready to uh to, to wrap it up for everyone that's listening Um, so we'll come to to talking about your business and how people reach you, and you know what's the best way to get in touch and do business with you. Is there anything that?
Speaker 3:that what's the best way to get in touch and do business with you? Is there anything that you want to share around leadership that I haven't asked already? Well, I would say the one thing that a leader is, even though you're in the forefront, like you're amongst everybody. But just because you're the one in front doesn't mean you know everything that's going on. So I don't know if I alluded to this earlier or not. Understand your weaknesses as a leader, but pull off of somebody else's positive. That will eventually make you look good as a leader, but it's a win-win for everybody and the organization as a whole.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I've never met the person that know it all, and if I do, I'm probably going to find some other people to hang around. Yeah, exactly. You know everything means I don't know anything, and I'm not going to feel good about that. That's true.
Speaker 2:I need to have some value. So I don't want to be around everybody that's super smart, and I want to be around some people that know some stuff, but I don't want them to know everything. I need to be able to add some value to that relationship as well. So, michael, I want to be able to make sure people know how to reach you. So what's the best way for people, regardless of where they're finding this podcast all over? What's the best way for people to reach you?
Speaker 3:The best way you can reach me is give me a call at 803-237-2536 or um. I'm on social media facebook, instagram and linkedin. Under I mean at esntl headshots all together. So esntl is the abbreviation for essential, so anytime you hear me say this, essential headshots. But go to that social media, handle ESNTL headshots altogether, or just visit me on the website wwwesntlheadshotscom.
Speaker 2:Awesome, awesome, love it, thank you. Thank you so much. And for everyone that's listening, you know you're. You're specifically focusing on people that do headshots. That's, that's your sweet spot.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's my niche yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what he's doing, so so if you're looking for videographers and all that stuff, he is strictly in the space of headshots and every year, if you're a speaker or if you're out and you're trying to put stuff on, everybody's asking for headshots. I get more every time I get invited. The first thing they ask for is a bio and a headshot. So, yes, yeah, you can use it and you can use it on all of your boards. So if you need headshots, I will tell you that. Please reach out to Mike. He's giving his information of how to reach him.
Speaker 2:Thank you for tuning in with us and hanging in, as we we always guarantee that we're going to keep it really, really sweet. We're going to help you understand leadership. Again. Ron Harvey, unpacked with Ron Harvey podcast released every single Monday. Have leaders from around the world love to have you as a guest, but would also love to have you as someone that's listening and supporting the podcast. You can always find us on our website at wwwgcsconsulting and you can always find me on LinkedIn. Easy to find me. Those are the two platforms. Our website or LinkedIn is the primary sources of communication for us. Love to talk to you, love for you to leverage our services, everything, leadership, helping you be great and until next time, michael and I are going to sign off and wish you a phenomenal week. Thank you all for joining us and looking forward to you joining us on another episode of Unpacked with Ron Harvey.
Speaker 1:Well, we hope you enjoyed this edition of Unpacked Podcast with leadership consultant Ron Harvey. Remember to join us every Monday as Ron unpacks sound advice, providing real answers for real leadership challenges. Until next time, remember to add value and make a difference where you are, for the people you serve, because people always matter.
