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Should You Start a Podcast? Lessons from ‘Lawyers in the Making’ | Nate Crespo
What if law school wasn’t the only way to break into the legal industry?
Nate Crespo was all set to take the traditional path—ace the LSAT, get into law school, and become a lawyer. But after scoring a 151, he started questioning whether that was the right move. Instead of following the script, he picked up a mic and launched Lawyers in the Making, a podcast that explores the unique and unexpected journeys into the legal profession.
Now, with over 100 episodes under his belt, Nate has built a platform that’s opened doors he never imagined—sponsorships, networking with top legal professionals, and even inspiring others to start their own podcasts. And the best part? He did it all before ever stepping foot in a law school classroom.
In this episode, Nate shares:
- Why he pressed pause on law school to chase real-world opportunities
- How his podcast helped him land sponsorships and build powerful connections
- The no-excuses formula for starting a podcast with just a mic and an idea
- Why consistency, not talent, is the real key to success in content creation
- His bold vision for live networking events that bring law students, lawyers, and legal tech professionals together
If you’ve ever questioned whether there’s another way to succeed in the legal world—or wondered if a podcast could be your secret weapon—this episode will change the way you think about career paths and opportunity. Tune in now.
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As time went on, I realized, no, in the legal industry itself, it's much more than just lawyers and law students. It's legal professionals, it's lawyers, it's law students, it's people who don't have JDs, it's people who've never taken the bar, it's people who never went to law school. And so, in realizing that, I changed the wording of everything. I changed the framing of my podcast while the podcast was going on, because I realized there's so many more people I could bring on the podcast to bring to other people out there that can understand the fact that there's so many different ways to get into it.
Speaker 2:Hey friends, welcome back to Life Beyond the Briefs. Today's guest isn't a lawyer yet, but he's already making a name for himself in the legal world. Nate Crespo is a college student from upstate New York and the creator of Lawyers in the Making, a podcast that explores the unique and unexpected journeys into the legal industry. But here's the twist.
Speaker 2:Nate was all set to follow the traditional path to law school, so just until he wasn't. After scoring a 151 on the LSAT, he started questioning if he was on the right track. Instead of immediately applying to law school, he picked up a mic, launched a podcast and in just over a year, he's built a platform that's opened doors he never could have imagined from sponsorships to networking with top legal professionals. In this episode, nate shares why he put law school on hold, how podcasting has created real opportunities for him and why he believes content creation is one of the most powerful tools for networking in today's world. He also drops some gold for anyone thinking about starting a podcast, including his simple no excuses formula for getting started. If you've ever wondered how to turn your voice into an opportunity magnet, this is the episode for you.
Speaker 3:Let's dive in no-transcript but Nate runs the Lawyers in the Making show, which just crossed the 100-episode mark, and many podcasts don't make it past episode number three, Nate. So congratulations to you for your persistence over the last year and a couple of months to pump out 100 plus episodes with lawyers. And if people aren't familiar with you or with your show, why don't you give us a couple of minutes on what that show is about?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Brian the Lawyers. In the Making podcast it is all about the unique journeys to the law and law school of professionals in the legal field and law students. I had the pleasure of having Brian on my own podcast and we talked about his unique journey, but the essence of it all is I focus on the journeys themselves. So I have many people on my podcast who may have come from a sales background. I've had someone who's worked sales for a bank. They did that for 11 years of their life and then finally they woke up one day and they're like, okay, I want to be a lawyer and they became a lawyer.
Speaker 1:But it can also be the inverse of that, where I have people coming straight out of college, going into law school and going straight through that, doing that as a career forever and then becoming a coach, becoming a consultant. They're going in a completely different direction, a completely different industry. At the core of it all, all I look at, all I look at, or all I try to make a point of, is that there is no straight path. There is only your unique journey and there are so many different ways to get into the law, to get into the industry itself. Either you know, I know people who only have a JD who are extremely successful in the field. I know people who have their LLMs who have been extremely successful in the field. I know people who didn't even go to law school and are still extremely successful in the legal industry. And even a person like myself and I don't mean to do this, but even a person like myself, I have emerged into the legal industry. I know many, many people, but I'm not a law student. I've never went to law school, I never graduated law school, I never took the bar, anything like that. So, like I said at the Corbin, we're really focusing on the unique journeys how people got to where they are today and what that journey looked like, what steps they took, what pitfalls to avoid, what struggles they went through.
Speaker 1:I know many times I love talking about when people hang their own shingle, when they start their own firm. You know what are the struggles that comes along with that first year, year of law school, all that fun stuff. So that is really what my podcast is all about. And, of course, on my podcast itself, we love to have a fun time. So there are very wide range of conversations. I like to be as informal as humanly possible. That is always my pledge. I know Brian heard that pledge many, many times before our podcast episode, but I'm a very curious guy. I'm a very curious guy. I'm a very interested guy. I have a wide range of interests. I like learning about pretty much anything, so a lot of my podcast consists of that as well as people's personal journey to the law, to law school, to everything like that.
Speaker 3:You know, there's this expression that the dots only connect. Looking backwards, right, you can't say this is what I want to be, and so here's the path that I'm going to follow, because things obstacles come up in your way and life happens, and there are many, many different routes to success. So, nate, as you're in your senior year now at University of Albany, what are you looking forward to this summer and next fall, after college, what's your plan.
Speaker 1:So, Brian, that is always the billion dollar question nowadays. So it's me people always asking that question all day long. Are you going to go to law?
Speaker 3:school.
Speaker 1:It definitely was. It was a hot topic of conversation for me and my relatives, but very much so as I tell the story to many people. I took the LSAT. I did not do great on it. I got a 151, not great, but as time went on, I think very much what happened was with that LSAT experience and I've never said this before but I felt as if I was running up against the wall, where it's very much a thing of what are my interests and what were the interests of people around me in terms of career, in terms of what I want to do with my life. And I think very much as I started to study for the LSAT, as I took the LSAT, as I started to explore more, as I started the podcast, I started to realize that I've had a lot of these skills that I didn't even know I had previously.
Speaker 1:Even at Thanksgiving, like you said, I was talking to one of my relatives, my cousin, and she was like one of the things that surprised me, nate, is like when you were a kid, like you were one of the quietest people I have ever met. So it blows my mind every day that you were on here in public, you know, putting yourself out there starting a podcast, having probably over 120 hours of content on the internet of you just talking, of you just writing, and it surprises me every day and I think it was one of those things and I think it is one of those things, to answer your question that I would like to continue to cultivate. I'd like to continue to see what is on the other side of this. What else can I do? And I love doing the podcast stuff, man, it really does bring me a ton of joy. It is my favorite part of the week by far coming on here talking to people doing the podcast, writing articles, whatever it may be, just creating content in general.
Speaker 1:And I want to keep mining. I want to keep, you know, digging for that goal, to see what else I can find, what other opportunities are there for me. So, to answer your question, the long way, I don't think I'll be going to law school this fall or thinking about it. I think I'll be putting it off for a little bit, exploring my options, because, of course, I'm a young guy. I got time not all the time in the world, but I got time to figure things out and to continue to cultivate my skills to see what's on the other side of this. So, like I said, the answer to the question. I definitely won't be going in the fall because I'm not looking at any way, shape or form. But one day I may come back around to it and I may end up in a law school classroom. But I want to take as much time as I can to squeeze as much out of this lemon as I possibly can.
Speaker 3:It's interesting. So I do want to come back to some tactical tips for how to start a podcast, because I get that question from lawyers a lot Like should I start a podcast if I want to? Who do I talk to? How do I get guests, all that stuff. But I'm curious. So, for you, this decision to delay at least the law school start in the fall, is that driven by the 151 LSAT score or is that driven by insights that you learned from interviewing lawyers? You know like maybe this isn't for me, or something else.
Speaker 1:I mean I think it's a collection of everything. I wouldn't be able to pin it down just to one concurrent thing that has really pushed me to be like, okay, I'm not going to go to law school next year, maybe the year after that and maybe the year after that, but definitely, you know the 151, I think the 151 was the driving factor for starting the podcast in the first place. I think there was other factors as well, like I said, sort of that running up against the wall, sort of realizing that, okay, like, maybe my parents want me to be a lawyer, but do I want to be a lawyer? I don't really know. And as time went on, I started to really differentiate that sort of thing and as, talking to guests, they felt that a lot as well. A lot of my guests in my podcast would come on and be like, yeah, my parents were lawyers. So, as a result, I just became a lawyer.
Speaker 1:And as time went on, I realized this wasn't the thing I wanted to do, and so I really took that to heart and really internalized that and to be able to reflect it on myself and be like OK, like, maybe there's something else in the cards for me, maybe there's something else in this path that I could go explore, that I could go do, that I could go emerge myself into, and I think with the podcast itself, it has really driven my interest and sort of changed a lot of my mindset of how I view the world, of how I view life itself. I think something like exponential growth. I know me and my brother were actually funny enough me and my brother were talking about this yesterday but he has his own podcast and we started at similar times and over time we've built an audience, we've built a following, we've built a cast of characters per se for our podcast that have come and gone, but we do it consistently every day. And, as you do that consistently every single day, there is that hockey stick that you want to hit and that hockey stick doesn't hit till and I'm sure you know this very well but that that hockey stick doesn't hit till third, fourth, fifth year. So you know, if I really, like I said, squeeze the lemon out of this as much as I can, I just have to continue to do this, be consistent with doing this, and I think that's been one of the driving things for me, because one of the things I love talking about and something that I really tried to harness and start in this podcast, and I always felt like throughout my life, I never really stuck to anything.
Speaker 1:Like you know, I played basketball my entire life. I played a lot of sports my entire life but I never really, you know, devoted myself to something like this before. You know, obviously, with basketball you got basketball training, you got to be working out every day, you got to be shooting at the park every single day. My brother played college basketball. So I saw it firsthand, what kind of work. And he only played division two. He went on a full ride but he was on the court every single day. He was practicing every single day, devoting himself every single day, and it took him, you know, to go to college for free.
Speaker 1:But I saw that and I thought to myself I'm like I've never done anything like that, I've never stuck to anything like that. So it's really on one side of it, it's just being consistent, exploring my interests, exploring other people's interests. See what's in, you know what I can cultivate, what I can find to be my thing. But it's also another thing of trying to prove to myself that, okay, I can stick to something I can continue to do something because it lets me be like, okay, now I can do other things. Now, if I get another thought, if I get another idea, I could really achieve this because, look, I just did a hundred and what. I think I'm up to 103 episodes, something like that. This is.
Speaker 3:this is the challenge of podcasting, right? Is you do hear that that it takes a year or two years, three years, to get the hockey stick growth, and it is really challenging. This is back, maybe, to the Dots Don't Connect. Looking forward, it's really challenging to know. Am I, you know, two feet away from gold, or should I stop digging and go find something else to do? So what do you pay attention to in terms of success metrics when you're figuring out is this working? Is this something that resonates with people versus like maybe I should go and find something else to do with my time?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's a great question and it's a difficult question. It's a really difficult question because it's sort of a question of how do you define success, and specifically in the podcast industry, it's very much. How do people define success? Obviously, audience is very important, but for me, I think it just comes from the opportunities I get outside of the podcast. So, for example, like being on this podcast, you invited me on this podcast. I see this as something extremely valuable and something that has come as a result of having the podcast. I think one of the things that I would define as a success metric is something you get as a result of doing this podcast, of taking or doing my podcast, this podcast this is my podcast but something as a result of doing the podcast, like you were talking about before, before we started recording the sponsorships something that was a direct result of just simply having the podcast.
Speaker 1:One of my favorite things that have ever happened, dear One L Amanda Haverstick's book. I was actually a beta reader for that book and I'm actually quoted on the back of the book and that was just one of those things that was a direct result of doing the podcast. So it's a little thing like that it's like as well, people reaching out to me telling, telling me oh my God, like Nate, your podcast is so valuable, I'm learning so much. Just the other day, nico Solis I butchered his name, he was on my podcast, but he actually reached out to me the other day and he was like I hope he doesn't mind saying this, but he reached out to me and he was like hey, nate, I was so inspired by what you're doing. I'm actually making my own podcast. Right, more competition coming into the market.
Speaker 1:But still, to that point, though, I think something like that, like, first of all, that made me so happy. It made me feel so amazing, the fact that I'm influencing people in that sort of way, that I'm actually pushing them to start their own podcast. I mean, it blew my mind, quite honestly, like I never experienced a feeling like that before. It's so visceral. I was like, oh my goodness, like this is absolutely insane, like I didn't even realize it. But it's little things like that that just keep me going, that keeps me telling myself I just got to keep making episodes, I got to keep pushing, I got to keep going because I know there's something on the other side. Another door will open, another opportunity will come. I just got to be patient.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's that happens, right, and it usually happens right around the time that your listenership dropped just a little bit. You're thinking about giving it up. Is it somebody who reaches out to you and says something like that? And what will happen, nate, as you start to attend in-person events, is you're going to find people that come up to you and, quote know you, but you have no idea who they are.
Speaker 3:So it's an interesting and a special thing, and if you were thinking about starting a podcast in 2025, you have to appreciate that there are very many podcasts writ large and also just a ton in the legal space, and while the average podcast listener is the seven different podcasts at any given time, most people don't listen to podcasts and so the audience is just not all that wide, and it's really easy to look at your listenership numbers and go, oh, this is a waste of time, but then when you do that, almost invariably somebody will come up to you and say, hey, I heard you say this and it inspired me to go and do my own thing, and so that is a special space that you're occupying you talked about. Well, we'll come back to that in a second, so let's talk tips for somebody starting a podcast in 2025. The barrier to entry is far lower than most people realize, I think. So what kind of things do you need to get started and get your minimal viable product and launch your very first episode?
Speaker 1:Well, I love MVP, the minimum viable product. One of my favorite books is the Lean Startup, so that's where I learned that from. So I like that. But to get that MVP literally literally all you need and you don't even need a microphone, but Yeti microphone, that's the one I use. It's like 60 bucks on Amazon If you're there on Cyber Monday, it was probably like 15, but you need a microphone.
Speaker 1:You need a laptop or desktop or a computer of some sort and you literally like if you have a Mac, it comes with GarageBand. If you don't have a Mac, you can use Riverside, like we're using right now, and then you just need an RSS feed so you can go to RSS itself. You could use I use Substack, that's another one. Rss is like $15 a month. It's literally nothing, and that's pretty much all you need. And obviously you need an idea. So I can talk about the idea a little bit more, because that's the most important part of it all, but one of the key things.
Speaker 1:I actually wrote a whole article about this, but I think and I called it the three pillars of podcasting. I don't know why. It sounded cool. So I was like that's what I'm going to go with and I always all my articles are written in threes. Why I have no idea, couldn't tell you. It's just how my brain works. But the big thing is obviously coming up with a name. You can think about it yourself. It's hard, trust me. It's very hard. I did it for like a week and I was like you know what I'm just going to ask the AI and see what they say Lawyers in the Making was exactly.
Speaker 1:It came from ChachiBT. Candidly, I'll tell you, it was an idea from ChachiBT that I took and I was like okay, my brother found it and he's like ranging, it's very broad and I think it's one of those things that have really helped me get the guess that I have gotten, because it's so broad but it's also so narrow because it is just in the legal space itself. But as time has went on, I realized, oh my gosh, the legal space is ginormous. The legal industry itself is ginormous and there's so much that goes into it. There's so many different kinds of law to start with, and then, on top of that, there's so many things that attach on to having a law firm. So, like fractional CMOs, you have people who do marketing, but then you also have the legal tech industry, which is now emerging as one of the, you know, largest industries in the world itself, not just in the legal industry, legal industry itself, just in the industry of businesses itself. And so that was another thing that I found was very, very interesting. And so finding that niche is really important, finding that specialization, pinpointing down what your sort of theme is going to be.
Speaker 1:Why are you having the podcast? What's the point of the podcast in the first place? My thing is always unique journeys. It's showing people that there are so many different paths. That's my specific niche. So I think finding that niche is so, so important, because you can keep digging and digging and digging and digging and you have unlimited amount of guests. And even early on in the podcast, at first it was only lawyers and law students. That's how I sort of framed it. But as time went on I realized no, in the legal industry itself, it's much more than just lawyers and law students. It's legal professionals, it's lawyers, it's law students, it's people who don't have JDs, it's people who've never taken the bar, it's people who never went to law school. And so, in realizing that, I changed the wording of everything, I changed the framing of my podcast. While the podcast was going on, because I realized there's so many more people I could bring on the podcast to bring to other people out there that can understand the fact that there's so many different ways to get into it.
Speaker 3:All right, and so it's. The barrier entry is really really low. How do you, how did you go about getting your first guest, and has your methodology for selecting and then reaching out changed over the course of time?
Speaker 1:So what's funny about this is the first guest I ever got was through sort of a network connection that I had. The first guest was Justin Davis. I had met Justin previously through the Mock Trial Club at UAlbany that I was a part of for a couple of years. I did Mock Trial for a year. That was very, very fun, I had a great time. But I was the programming chair at the time, so we did a Q&A, I did a Q&A with him, I invited him down, and so that was like a year before I even started the podcast, and so I simply just sent out an email. And, of course, my brother had a podcast previously before the podcast he has currently because he worked for a startup company as a co-founder. So I had a lot of help from him and also his other co-founder, Peacemaker, and they really helped me get a message together. And so that message, that sort of initial reach out message I just called reach out, no problems with that. I just simply send the email, send the message. It hasn't changed. I used the same one a year later. I use the same exact message every single time, and so it's really easy. It's really simple. I just invite people on my podcast and it's really simply, it's just cold reach out.
Speaker 1:It may seem scary at first. It was a little bit for me. I was very nervous sending that email. But actually the first, my first guest, Justin Davis. I emailed him. He answered me five minutes later. He's like all right, you got time tonight. I was like, oh wow, I guess I'm really doing this podcast and I guess I'm having an episode tonight and that's exactly how it went. So, really, just through people that I knew.
Speaker 1:But as time has went on, you know, I see people on LinkedIn. I become interested in them. I look at their LinkedIn profile. If I see that they have something very unique, I see that it's not exactly linear. Sometimes most people put in their bio they're like my path is not very linear and I'm like well, you're going to be a person I'm about to reach out to right now. Here's my message. So it's very much like that. It's also it should, I think. I think a lot of the time from, at least from an outsider's perspective. It may seem complicated. I I would hate to overcomplicate anything. I try to keep things as simple as humanly possible and I think it's just as straightforward as hey, I have this podcast. This is what it's all about. Do you want to come on, so on and so forth? And if you're going to start a podcast, please use Calendly. I didn't use Calendly for like five months and it was the worst experience of my life, and then I to stack recordings if you want to, right.
Speaker 3:So I've made Fridays the day where I will do more than one, because the mental switching that goes on between trying to do regular work or do schoolwork, in your case and prepare for an episode, then record the episode like it's just, it's too much. So there's all kinds of little things and tools that you can use. The tool that we've started using to chop up clips for social media is Opus Pro, which is AI, I guess aided video editing, and they'll put the dynamic captioning in that. And all of these, again, are just very, very low, low level hurdles to clear, and if you have the capability to get a VA to chop this stuff up for you, you definitely should be doing it, especially if you're a practicing lawyer. Don't spend your time editing the podcast. Your time is better spent somewhere else. So, nate, you've got now a handful of sponsor deals. As I look at your sub stack, I see at least three affiliate codes. Did you reach out and get those, or were those folks that reached out?
Speaker 1:to you. So the first one was Rhetoric, which I'm wearing the sweatshirt right now. But the first one was rhetoric. I had Luke Yangling, the CEO on the podcast Fabulous, one of my favorite people ever. He's actually one of my very, very good friends now. We talk all the time so he's become almost a mentor to me. But when I first initially met him, we just simply had a podcast together. We absolutely hit it off. He's super duper funny guy. So and I didn't honestly we listened back to it one time and we sort of realized like I realized like he was making so many jokes and I wasn't laughing so I felt bad. After the one I was like he's making all these jokes and I'm just sitting there stone face, like, oh my god, like that's great. Let's move to the next question. But it was just one of those things at the time when he initially did that, I was taking the podcast a lot more serious and I was like, okay, I guess one of the things as a result that comes to take it more serious, I should probably look for like a sponsor or something. I don't know, I'm just, I didn't. I didn't really know anything, I just all the podcast greats like joe rogan, lex friedman, tim ferris, they all, they all have podcast sponsors. So I'm like I guess I want to be that guy too. But I just simply reached out to him after the podcast. I was was like hey, I got this idea for a little partnership sponsorship and he's like let's freaking do it. So that's really all that happened, like there wasn't a lot that went into it. I just sort of like put the idea out there in the world and he was like all right, let's do it.
Speaker 1:The second one, lisa Blaster, a law school operating system. She actually reached out to me after the podcast. She was like Nate, I want to help you in some way, shape or form. And I was like Lisa, why don't you become a sponsor of the podcast? She was like let's do it. And it was one of those things where the opportunity presented itself and I jumped on the opportunity. I was like, okay, of course I'm not going to say no. And what's funny? What's even more funny about getting that sponsorship specifically was because I got a promo code with it and the first month I started doing the podcast, I used to walk around the park near my house and I would do fake ad reads with fake promo codes, looking like a crazy person walking around the park and they fit in a little bit, but only like a crazy person. But I sort of see. I used to hate the word manifesting but I got to love it now, brian, because it was real, it actually came true. I actually got my own promo code.
Speaker 1:And then the final one was Start LSAT. That was with Alden Spratt and he came on my podcast. He had reached out to me to come on the podcast. I'm like, of course I'll have you on. And he's 21 years old. He got a 180 on his LSAT and from the time he took his test to the time he got his score, he built an entire LSAT company, an entire LSAT prep company.
Speaker 1:And after hearing that, I mean he literally is one of the most impressive humans, regardless of literally is one of the most impressive humans regardless of age, one of the most impressive humans I've ever met in my entire life. I was like, oh my, I can't believe he did. I'm not impressive in any way shape before brian. But this guy, my god, like I was absolutely blown away and I was literally like begging him after the podcast. I'm like, please, let me, I will do anything for you, let me sponsor you. And he was like, okay, fine, no, I mean it wasn't, I didn't have to beg that much. But you know, it's just one of those things. I was absolutely blown away. I'm like, listen, man, like we, I gotta sponsor you because this is just such a great opportunity and you were just such one of the most industrious people I've ever met in my life. So it's just one of those things which just kind of happened.
Speaker 1:I think that that's what a lot of what has happened over the year, over the past year, since I've been doing the podcast, a lot of stuff just happens. I don't really like. Obviously, there's a lot of jumping on the opportunities, there's a lot of finding those opportunities, but a lot of those opportunities find me and I just it's sort of a reaction, sort of an action that comes off of okay, I got this little insight, I got this little nugget of information. Now I got to do something with it. So, as much as like there is no like recipe that I could sort of give out to be like this is how you get podcast sponsorships. It's just simply keep doing it and stuff will happen. That's the only way I could describe it.
Speaker 3:There's no other way I could describe it. So, now that you're a believer in manifesting, if you project out three years, what does wild success look like to you? That's a tough question.
Speaker 1:I've never thought about that. I mean, I think about it a lot In terms of what will the wild success look like? I have a lot of things planned. I don't know if I could talk about it. I don't really know. They are my ideas. I have a lot of things planned, something that is in the works right now.
Speaker 1:I'm on the precipice of getting the live podcast here. This is the first time I've ever talked about this. A Brian Deer podcast is the first to hear something like this, but I am on the precipice of confirming a live podcast. I won't say where, but a live podcast is on the way, and that's something that I'd like to continue to do as the years go on. Continue to have, as the years go on and maybe further that line, maybe some conferences, if we want to think really big, because that's really what I want to do.
Speaker 1:I want to try to get this to the public. I want to you know person, face to face. That type of stuff allow a ton of networking opportunities for people, wherever I may go, for all three undergraduate law students, legal professionals, because I think that is something that really does not exist. I have looked far and wide for events like that and they do not exist. So I don't want to try to be the first people to really have those all-encompassing events, to bring all three of those sort of cohorts together and have a wonderful event, have a live podcast. That's one of the things I'm really looking forward to and really looking to do as time goes on. That would be something that I would be like wow, this is wildly successful.
Speaker 3:All right, you heard it here first live events bringing together law students, lawyers and legal tech professionals. Nate, if people want to get into your universe, make sure they're following you so that they can be the first to know when you announce this event. How do they find you?
Speaker 1:So, of course, you can find me on LinkedIn, just Nate Crespo. My full name is Nathaniel, but I don't use that because it's too long. It's a mumble of words. Nathaniel, it's three syllables. Let's just stick with Nate, it's one. So you can find me on LinkedIn, nate Crespo. You can also find me on Substack. That's where you can find all of my content. It has all the podcasts, all the articles that I write. I have lawyersinthemakingsubstackcom. It's one word lawyersinthemaking, substackcom. Other than that, that's it.
Speaker 3:We'll make sure we link to all that in the show description.
Speaker 1:Nate, I appreciate you coming on man, of course, brian, I appreciate you very much for coming on here and thank you for everyone listening.
