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Internationally recognized speaker, personal business coach and Amazon best-selling franchise author Dr. John Hayes offers an honest look at everything involved in researching, evaluating and purchasing a franchise business. On this podcast, Dr. John P Hayes interviews Franchisors, Franchisees, and has solo episodes giving valuable advice in the Franchise Industry. Since 1979, John Hayes has worked in the franchise community as a consultant, franchisee and franchisor. He’s one of an elite group worldwide that has actually owned and operated franchises, including serving as CEO of a major American franchisor company, and advised franchisors and franchisees. He is the author of several franchise-related books and countless articles that have appeared in media worldwide. Dr. Hayes has served for many years as an advisor to franchisors, franchisees and small business owners internationally. His areas of expertise include management development, marketing, customer service, training and strategic planning. He is the author or co-author of 18 non-fiction books including Franchising: The Inside Story, Start Small, Finish Big, You Can’t Teach A Kid To Ride A Bike At A Seminar, and most recently Buy “Hot” Franchises Without Getting Burned. Keywords: franchise tax board , chick fil a franchise , the franchise guy , best franchise to own , franchise business , buying a franchise , franchise opportunities , opening a franchise , owning a franchise

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The Retro Pizza Hut Strategy That’s Driving More Sales | Dr. John P. Hayes - With Tim Sparks

June 29, 2026 • Dr. John P Hayes • Season 1 • Episode 90

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Dr. Hayes converses with Tim Sparks, the president of The Land Corporation and a significant franchisee of Pizza Hut, who runs almost 100 outlets across 11 states. The discussion revolves around the reintroduction of traditional Pizza Hut dine-in features such as Tiffany-style lamps, checkered tablecloths, arcade games, red cups, and the iconic red-roof identity. Sparks expresses his belief that technology can sometimes obstruct operations and that Pizza Hut's unique selling point is its dine-in experiences that foster relationships, boost sales, and serve as a community hub. He talks about how these experiences encourage families to disconnect from their phones and groups to extend their stay. Sparks shares that the idea of retro remodels started as a Pizza Hut experiment around 2017, with the first one taking place in Dahlonega, Georgia in 2018. His company now boasts 38 classic outlets, with the potential for more, and these locations attract customers from far and wide. Sparks shares his journey of starting as a dishwasher at the age of 18 and learning about franchising through Dalan. He asserts that brands achieve success by selling experiences and memories. He also stresses the importance of franchisee ownership, operator-led decisions, and being wary of aggressive expansion terms. While he finds AI intriguing, he doesn't see it aligning with his focus on dine-in social experiences. - With Tim Sparks

TIMESTAMPS:

02:10 Why Tech Fails In Restaurants.

04:45 The Dine-In Strategy That's Beating Delivery.

06:30 From Dishwasher To Owner Of 100 Stores.

08:45 Why Customers Drive Hours For Old-School Pizza Hut.

10:35 The P&L Secret That Crushes National Averages.

11:35 Why Families Put Phones Down At Pizza Hut.

14:30 The Gen Z Obsession With Retro Pizza Huts.

16:40 The Disney Lesson That Transformed A Franchisee.

19:30 Why Tim Wants Guests To Stay Longer.

24:40 The $900K Advantage Of Nostalgia.

31:45 Why Corporate Churn Hurts Franchise Brands.

37:15 The Hard Truth About Owning A Restaurant.

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