Matrix Fitness' Clint Pratch: Mental Health Meets Gym Tech

On this episode of the All Things Fitness and Wellness Podcast, host Krissy Vann welcomes Clint Pratch, the Key Account Manager at Matrix Fitness Canada. Clint shares his deeply personal journey into the fitness industry—a path initially embarked upon with goals that now seem superficial but led him to discover the true essence of fitness beyond mere physicality. He opens up about the role of fitness in navigating the grief of losing a son, showcasing how exercise served not just as a routine but as a vital lifeline for mental health and emotional resilience.

As we delve deeper, Clint also sheds light on the latest trends in fitness equipment, providing valuable insights for health club owners and operators looking to elevate their service offerings. His story is a powerful reminder of the multifaceted impact of fitness on our lives, encompassing not just physical well-being but social connections and mental health.

Join us as Clint Pratch enlightens us with his transformational perspective on fitness, proving it to be a journey not just of the body, but of the mind and soul. Don't miss out on this episode full of inspiration, innovation, and insights into the evolving landscape of the fitness industry.

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Fitness saved my life in a lot of ways I lost my son about seven years ago after that happened. It's like any parent's nightmare. Obviously fitness initially was really hard to get back into. But as I kept trying and as I kept working at it as I kept trying to get back to my passion, getting back to my purpose, and then also using fitness for my body in my mind, to get back to some kind of health, you know, in a lot of ways, bring me back to life. This is all things fitness and wellness hosted by Krissy Vann. Together we're uniting industry thought leaders and fit flew answers on the mission to inspire innovation and encourage people to live a life fit and well. In today's episode of our podcast, we welcome Clint frosh, a key account manager at matrix fitness Canada, Clint opens up about his initial foray into the fitness industry, driven by goals that, in hindsight, appeared somewhat superficial and left him feeling unfulfilled. His narrative takes a compelling turn as he revisits personal training, this time uncovering a profound understanding of fitness that transcends physical benefits to encompass social and mental well being. Clint touches on the pivotal role fitness has played in his mental health journey, especially in the aftermath of his son's passing. He credits exercise as a lifeline, a testament to the profound impact of physical activity on emotional resilience. Moreover, Clint lends his expertise on the latest trends in fitness equipment, offering insights into what health club owners and operators are currently seeking to enhance their offerings. Before we get to it, be sure to hit like and subscribe. We have new podcast episodes weekly featuring industry thought leaders and influencers. I'm your host, Krissy Vann. And this is ATF W. Clint Prachi. So happy that you're able to join us today, I know that you boast over two decades in the fitness industry, but all of a sudden, you're a personal trainer, and then you have a change of heart. Being authentic. Being an authentic trainer, I wasn't there for them, it was more there for them for me. So then I quit, I quit being a personal trainer, because that doesn't have that shelf life. For those of you who are thinking about being a personal trainer for themselves. I'm like, gonna pause you there because you're actually not the first person that has ever shared a sentiment like that. So I'm curious, like, how did you have the personal awareness to realize that perhaps you were in it for the wrong reasons at that point. I just didn't like it. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't enjoy it. I didn't come home and say, Wow, this is a great job. I just came home going like, there's only so much you can look at your abs. Right. And there they are. There's your abs great. And the stories weren't resonating with me. They weren't hitting hitting home, you know. And then I quit for about five years. And then I went and worked on cruise ships worked with kids. I worked on cruise ships do like That's wild. Which cruise line did you work on? Royal Caribbean? So did I. Okay, that's freaky. I was reporting shopping guide and I was a Sharpie for a period of time. So you had a good job. Oh, I looked up to you guys. Not gonna lie I did. And for those that have never worked on ships, it's like a complete I daresay it like caste system on board when it comes to stripes that you have and if you've got a porthole or how your roommate is and it's such a wild way to live your life, but I feel you there so fellow ship life person, you ended up on ships. And I, I mean, knowing that life, It's tons of fun. Everyone needs to know what happens below deck is completely different than what happens above deck. But it is a wild ride. Especially when you hit those rough seas, however I can completely understand you get to a point where you're like, maybe this isn't my permanent life choice. It has to be that way. Like it's funny. Your cruise ship life as you know, you're on the ship for three weeks, and all sudden, they're like, I want to get off. And then you're off the ship for three days. And you're like I want to get back on. It's it's a weird, it's a weird work warped way of looking at life even. And we Yeah, so I worked with kids and you, I thought it was going to be one thing and it was another thing and and then I became a manager. And that was intense. I don't know if you ever met any of the Adventure Ocean managers have, we had a job man, we were running around like, you know, helping out with cruise staff and which is like the entertainment stuff and then help you know, having a staff of 10 and making sure that they're not there. They're showing up for their work. And to be clear for people that like aren't aware of that life. It's generally six months on seven days a week, full throttle like you are in it. And you're also living and working in a space that you cannot escape your coworkers. It's to be honest, I've always said if you can ever hire somebody that's worked on ships, you've probably got yourself one of the most solid employees and as a fellow Royal Caribbean, I still remember because they drill into you all their mandates gold greet and smile on the problem look the part deliver the wow like to this day the best customer service people you could ever have in life. My pleasure. You're welcome my pleasure. Exactly. That's wild. Yeah. So I liked it. I liked it for a while and then went through a little bit of a breakup. And then this trainer had a death in his family, on the ship that the trainer. And he found out that I was still certified as a personal trainer. And he said, I need you to step in. We can't get anybody to step in. So I'm like, can't run two jobs that you don't like, as you know, but I was like, Yeah, I just went through a breakup, I got nothing else to do. I'm going to work 24/7. And I did basically I got up and I worked out. And that was the only time that I had to myself. And I actually loved it. I had a little beeper on me, while I was training people, people for my other job. It was it was awesome. And then I worked as a fitness instructor for one contract after that, which is eight months. And yeah, that was too long. But it was great. I mean, it taught me a lot. fitness trainers on cruise ships, or work on tips, work on work on commission, basically, we sell, we sell product, and then we sell ourselves. So it really helped with confidence. And it was a great job. So it was, it was really the best job for learning I've ever had. And then. And then I came back and I went back to the YMCA and I was like, Hey, guys, will you take me back. And they did, luckily. And the rest is really history. I mean, I went to a company called Bodyfit. Because they wanted me to run a personal training program for them selling personal training. And I love that. So that's where I started training these, this the sisters, and they are their dad owns a big fitness dealer. And they across Canada. And they wanted me to manage their store local store. And I'm like, oh, a personal trainer, I'm, you know, nutrition coach, personal trainer, I'm that guy. And then I and then they said, well just try once just try it. And I tried it on the Saturday and I loved it. Because it was like, it was like short, short, five minute training sessions with somebody, you know, you you show them that you care. And then you earn your credibility, and then you get them on a program. But now they're they go on their way. And they don't really know whether it's they succeed unless they come back to the store. But you that you bring that to them, they buy a treadmill, and they go on their way. And you gave them that, that, that motivation to get to get it first and foremost to purchase it. And then to go use it and not become a cool rack. And then from there, I just kept looking at matrix, I was like, looking at the company I work for now I kept looking at great, great product and I kept and then we were I was able to sell it for about six months did really well with it. And they stayed in touch with them. And then now the rest is history. And so thinking of the fact that you started with just looking at your own abs in the mirror. And now translating it just in your language there, I spend this little piece of time and I know that they go away and it's ultimately a decision a purchase decision that they're making to change their lives. Now being able to do it on a larger scale when it comes to gyms and health clubs. How does it feel to know them that your ripple effect of making that change is so much wider? Like do you recognize that you're casting that net and how far you came from maybe like, I don't want to say an immature mindset, but like in a sense. So you've obviously had personal growth over your mindset with fitness. I think that's that's what makes me good at it is the passion. It comes from that place. It doesn't come from money. It comes from the place where like say if I open up, I help open up a fitness center, like could be any size. But let's say a big one, let's say like a 50,000 square foot gym, which which we do, and it's majority matrix are all matrix. I now have built this this block inside my head that these people that are using that product, I am affecting on a daily basis, not directly but indirectly through the owner. And that's a widespread message to have of health and fitness. And as long as they stay there. I feel like my passion will never go away. And it's it. It's a little bit imaginative, I think because when you're a trainer, it's like you're right there, you're affecting the change right there. But it's a bigger effect. It's a bigger effect, because it's a shotgun blast and way more people that one on one or even group training can do. Well and I think that anybody that has worked in sales two knows how important it is to be passionate about what you're selling, I think that anyone that's ever tried to sell something, and maybe is a bit disingenuous or just doesn't have that connection, it's going to be a 10 times harder and more than likely not effective. So when you are working, and for example, as you say, like working on big clubs and things like that, what are some good questions, because we do on this podcast speak to a lot of health club owners and operators, like, what should they be asking from their equipment dealer? And conversely, what do you need to know from them in order to figure out what works? Yeah, and that's what I do. I put myself in their shoes right away. I think about their typography, where they are, what kind of clientele they have, what would be important to me, the first thing I think about is whether that company is going to be there for me, if things go right, and it's more like a treadmill, there's a lot of moving parts, and what's the warranty like? And what's the durably? Like? And what's the company like? Is it on? Its way up? Is it stable company? What's all that stuff? Is the individual that I'm buying from? A stable individual? And do they have that staying power with that company or with the industry? Those are the things I think I would I would really look at first. And then and that's weird to think about, I think, because you want to say, Well, what about what about your clientele? Are they you know, what? Won't they come? Because they got X brand, or you know, like, whatever? No, no, they don't. If you interviewed somebody walking out of a fitness center, and you ask them, what brand of Treadmill did you use today? Most people would not know, unless maybe they worked in a gym, or they owned a gym at one point. They when there was a study done in New York City, they interviewed 200 People just on the street. So it wasn't really like a study. But it was just they interviewed two other people. And they asked them brands, fitness equipment brands that they would know. And commercial brands, or they're non existent in people's minds. There was two that were really high up on people's minds that almost everybody knew was peloton and Bowflex. And that's, I can mention those names, because everybody knows those names. But they're not. They're not commercial products, right. So they, they wouldn't know about that brand unless, and it won't be affected by unless an out of order sign on it would be affected by it. And then they might even know that brand after that, get that brand. I don't like it. But other than that they don't leave the gym going, Oh, such a good work on on my trip. My matrix treadmill. It's so true. Until I worked within the fitness industry. You're 100% right. I have been a gym rat for years and years and years. And now I can't help myself, I walk into any new fitness space. And I'm like, Oh, they've got X that and that that or like you notice if a fitness facility has decided to just purchase from one brand. And they're dedicated to that. And then I'm like, Oh, why did they choose to do that? Like what was the offer the deal. And then when you see the mix, I've been in many gyms where they're like we specifically especially I find if it's bodybuilder gyms that are owned, they are so specific about they don't care about the brand. It's like the actual particular equipment from this one we know is our favorite for this and x and y. But you're not wrong. If it's a regular gym goer prior to that I never ever would have paid attention or noticed. It's growing. I think that that it can't help itself but become more prevalent. But it's slow. Because again, there's other things people are thinking about when they're in a fit fitness center. Like is that person looking at me? Or did I you know, how am I a lot to do with it. They're looking and how they feel and their energy level and maybe what kind of groceries are getting. There's not really like, oh yeah, this is such a good feeling. treadmill, what's the rent? Okay, I remember that. Yeah, they remember, they remember that the feel of it for sure. Like that it felt good that it felt stable, that it felt like something that they wanted to work on. And the workout was great. And that had a part to play a bit, but not too much. Yeah, no, I mean, it definitely creates leg work for people like yourselves to obviously, I mean, your health club operators owners, decision makers definitely care about exactly what you spoke to there. Is it going to function in my going to be able to get help if there are any issues going down the line and really that support because it is a significant investment and there are definitely choices on the market. We did and we are going to get to more the exercises medicine that I lead into here. But as we're speaking to equipment, and obviously this is such a area of expertise for you, Clint, we came off of Ursa. So what are kind of the top trends that you were seeing or what were people asking for on the ground because we know for example, the country UberX behavior has changed greatly. We've seen this tremendous shift when it comes to strength training being number one. And now consumers really are returning to those face to face spaces. I mean, we don't even need to dive into what's happened into connected fitness. But we have seen some companies go full throttle post pandemic, and unfortunately, now are feeling the hurts of that change. But for yourselves, knowing that people are returning to these in person spaces, what are people demanding and looking for? gym owners are maybe not all the way in on the connected side unless you make it easy for them. And I think that you make it easy for them, they understand the that it can really help them and their bottom line. And matrix is my company is really, really a leader, we're a leader in that area. We make it seamless, we make it so it's that gym owner, understands the technology understands the trend within the technology, and why it's important. There may not be too many people going on to a treadmill, or whatever, or what whatever piece of equipment and go into the touchscreen, I'm gonna do a little little a bit. And because they're probably going to put their phone there. But if that facility understands it has some programming surrounding it, there's a lot of retention reasons to get involved in technology. And there's a lot of reasons to get involved for the asset management side of things. So you know, what's happening with your, your product that you purchased. So like if you if there's a problem with an elliptical and the right arm of it, you'd be able to get logged in and say, oh, there's a problem with my, but it's not even squeaking well, so I'm ahead of the game, I can get somebody to work on it before it has an order sign on. So those are some of the things that and there's lots more to that. But I don't wanna get too technical. I mean, you have the right audience, if you sway that way, so don't worry, yeah. Anyways, it's, it's really, it's really important to, to at least hear out why technology is important. And if it's if you know that your clientele and it's just not going to be something that you're going to push through, well, then there's the other side of the coin too. There's stuff that just like this really simple stuff presco. Like, I feel like senior centers and stuff like that they're not going to they're the learning curve is gonna be hard for them. So just pressing, knowing where the Go button and the red button is, is important. So it's gonna have that seamless. Look, there's, there's go when it comes to the technology side, especially when it comes to cardio equipment, because we know, although I would say the footprint of cardio equipment in a lot of gyms Spaces has shrunk a bit because of that transition to a lot more people leaning into the strength side, it does seem like there has been an evolution in the cardio space. So what specifically are we seeing in those equipment models? Because we know technology we live in the future. So what's the future here? I just want to stop you right now. What a great question that is such a, like an in depth in the market question. Because that we see this trend, it isn't even a trend anymore. It's just the way it is, is strength is king, like strength has become the king. Cardio is never going to go away. It's never it's just this a smaller grouping of cardio pieces for the bulk of people are doing using them to warm up or do their own little interval training on the cardio pieces. But you'll find that there's less and less people on the cardio pieces. And they're even doing their their funk their dog like a lot of people do functional trains that their turf is busy everywhere. Yeah. So they'll put like the hook like one of our pieces that we just innovative. We have an area where you put you can put your tablet or phone and do your YouTube workout. All in this little tiny area. And there's little stations for that. So because there's it's becoming so commonplace for people to just have a trainer or a YouTube trainer, and just put it there and go. I know my wife does it every morning, she does a YouTube trainer. And she loves it. She thinks it's so easy to get in, get out and to have all the equipment there as well as just, yeah, that's a smart way to do it. Because I think that was obviously a fear when and I know we're so sick of talking about pandemic and it feels like a lifetime and also yesterday at the same time. But initially, there was that fear that those connections with like the YouTube training economy, so to speak, was going to mean that nobody was going to walk in the door if they did that, but we are seeing that shift and it is wise to have equipment that's like this is a home for the thing you like to do but do it in our walls. So that's very innovation. You're carrying what you learned you and it's it's it's the work of better I mean it is better to do your YouTube trainer at a facility and then also know You're in a facility, you probably want to get like you first, you're not gonna go catch the phone, you're not gonna go watch the TV. Because that's, you know, you don't want to be weird. So you're gonna stay in your workout and you're gonna do to get a good workout no matter what now you've brought that the stuff that you liked from the pandemic, to the facility that you'd like as well. And the equipment is a little bit better, probably. So it's, it's, it's really good. I think that you know, that people are bringing that what was what was maybe good out of a bad scenario, to the normal way of living, the normal way of working out is in which is in the facility, I think, yeah, I agree. And I think as well, and because we know it's community as well, we've got a loneliness epidemic, this seems like a very viable solution to help combat that. But I imagine too, for owners and operators, and then ultimately, if you're, the person doing the tour for somebody that's maybe teetering on is the four walls in a gym, for me, having something like that, where they can relate and say, Hey, if you are somebody that is in that hybrid and wanting to do your own digital workout, like this is the ideal place to do it, we have the equipment to set it up, I could see that being really effective in closing the deal and getting them to sign on the line at the end of the day. I know mental health advocacy is something that's really important for the company that you work for, but also yourself personally. So why is that a pillar that's so important for you to help people understand? Well as the foundation, chi is the great foundation, and it's, it's become a co passion, equal passion of mine, I feel like fitness saved my life in a lot of ways. And then sorted the foundation saved my life. And what happened was, I lost my son about seven years ago. And he was my first son. And after that happened, it's like any parent's nightmare, obviously. Fitness initially was really hard to get back into. But as I kept trying, and as I kept working at it, as I kept trying to get back to my passion, getting back to my purpose, and then also using fitness, for my body, in my mind, to get back to some kind of health, it really did save me it really did it, you know, in a lot of ways, bring me back to life. The foundation is keyed around that with mostly to do with families and children in that in need. We raise money for, for babies, for families to get these outlet socks. And these outlet socks are the sensor, they'll sense your set rate. So like your colors and your blood, and then also your heart rate, will the baby's heart rate and they were during their sleep, and an alarm will go off. If anything goes wrong. And this company is amazing. They, we were kind of tied to them a little bit. And that just really makes me feel great to be a part of that. And then the fitness and health side is saves people daily and they don't even know it. You know, it's such a preventative thing. And they don't even know that being saved. It's such a it's such a beautiful thing, like it's not a pill. But it is the best. If it was a pill, it would be the best pill with the most soul pill ever. I know people talk about it be comparing it to a pill be can't compare it to a pill, because it's in the action of doing it. That raises up your your, like the hardness of it like the the challenge of you going in there and working on heart. That's what changes you transforms you, every time you work out, transform us to a better human. And that's what gives you that ability to be a leader and it's been a strong human. And that's what saved me. I mean really hard workouts. hard workouts saved my life. I commend that so much. Because in those moments that feel absolutely unsurvivable and anyone that has had to navigate grief, and I can't even imagine the level as well from like parent to child. But grief is not linear. And it is something that ultimately is going to slow you down to the point of moving through the thickest mud where everything seems impossible. So I can't imagine what those first steps felt like to incorporate movement again, but I appreciate that you share so eloquently how valuable that was because I do feel like those of us that understand it know it and we know it because it's impacted us intrinsically. And I think this is the message that we're trying to communicate outward to get more people to adopt exercise into their lives because that really is what it's all about the capabilities it has for our mental health and I liked that you said preventative as well because for you. Thank God it was Something that you had a foundation of and was integrated. Even if you had trouble getting started again, you already knew that foundation was there. So when you were in your most like, vulnerable time in life, it was a tool you could actually grab on to. And I can't even imagine the transformative effect that it had on you. Well, you will, yeah. Like I talked about leadership. Going through things like that, that are traumatic events, and coming out on the other end gives you the wisdom and the strength that you can choose to use towards leadership. And that's the way I've turned around my sales is kind of pulling pulling owners back and go and kill it, zoom out here. I know, we're in the weeds here on this product does this this product does that and this price is this that price and discount how to pay? Great, we can stay in there as long as you'd like. But let's just for a moment, pull back and just have some gratitude for what you're doing. You're investing in this. And you may not know it, but you're affecting people's lives on a different scale that you're even aware. But let's make awareness to that. And I know a lot of times we have this conversation owners are just like, Well, yeah, oh, yeah. And they stumbled upon it. And they're just like, I never really thought of it like that. And they love it. Of course, they love it, who doesn't want to help people with their mental health? Right. But I think that it's, it's, it's definitely a surprise to most because they're in it. So they kind of know that's like subconscious. They're in there, you know, working day in day out for their staff and for their, for their members. And they're just, and it's back there. But then making them aware of it bring it to the forefront is, is is kind of like really a positive conversation to have. And I want to just back up here. Like I said, the Case Foundation, that was my son's name kayas credible, this is something my son's just great. What a great way to honor him. And knowing that you're making a difference, not just in your professional life, but putting the work with this foundation. And I imagine it must just be so soul filling for you in a void that I'm not going to pretend that that can ever be filled. Because a deep love like that. They leave a mark, but then at the same time you're like, how beautiful in life to know a love that deep. That's what I always remind myself in those moments. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, it's, it's like somebody that's gone to that level. And I've been talking to some people helping people through exactly the same. It's not exactly the same, but that same similar scenarios, where they've lost a child. And it's being able to be there for them, and eat and sometimes talk about them working on are you working out? And a lot of times they're not, but I'm just suggesting, hey, you know, it, I know it feels like almost very, you know, authentic, it feels like you're giving back to yourself that you don't deserve it, or you got all these things, but you know, it'll, it's a good thing. Just shut those things down, just move. And it does, it has a great effect on people. And I wanted to touch base on just quickly the the fact that the companies that I that I tracked myself to have been those companies that also value those things. And that's also one of the reasons why I'm with matrix is, is that they value it. And it's not just on a brand level, it's on a personal level. It's the group that I'm working with the all that all resonates with them. So while and it's important, I like that you highlight that it's not just on the brand level. I in my past have worked for a company that it very much was just on a brand level. And it was not something that was lived in the culture. To be honest, that was a big reason why I exited from that company, because it was just quite a bit out of alignment for me. And obviously the fitness industry was such an attractant because I know that we practice what we preach, and so to know that you've landed somewhere and you know, even on the matrix we have we've had Dr. Carly until kafir on the podcast, who I know is providing tremendous research in the space as well, and is just giving us tremendous contributions to that space, not just for us in the industry to understand the impact. But again, I do find when we get those stats and figures I know it was around this time last year, because I was just thinking of when you said I know it's not a pill but it's like a pill but not a pill. And it was Dr. Ben sang. He's out of New South Wales University in Australia. And he actually did the research and published a study in the British Journal of Sports Medicine that essentially proved that exercise was more effective than your depression or anxiety medication and again, not to discount that if you are in a deep moment of need. I don't want to say that you shouldn't speak with a health professional and find the route that's best for you I think it's just having that deep understanding that movement and exercise needs to be part of the equation. And I know you're not just delivering that through the equipment side in your professional career, but as I understand it, you still work with clients? Is that correct? And why have you kept that word going? Because I imagine with a successful career, it may not be necessary. It's hard at times to keep it going. So I teach boot camps and spin classes. And I would teach a couple a week, but it keeps the sword sharp and when you speak to, to them, you know, a little bit more, you know, what's happening in the weeds a little bit more. And I feel like that that sword stays sharp that way. And I love it. I mean, it's, it's pretty awesome. We have have this 79 year old woman that comes through the boot camps, oh, my God. And I watched the people like, training as if trainers are listening. It's it's hard sometimes to motivate people in when she's in the class. All they do is just go like, if somebody's backing off and not working harder. Just look over there. Continue work. Let's go. And she's just the whole time. In fact, sometimes she just goes when there's was a rest period. And I have to go. Let's back off here. Time to rest. And she's been she goes back, right. lievable? what a what a story. What a great human. Everyone actually laughs because obviously, I run the All Things fitness and wellness, Instagram. Yeah, and the algorithm starts to get to know you. And I would say 90% of the things that are suggested to me are actually the elderly, doing crazy workouts, because you can't stop and pause when you see that you're like, yes, because it shows not just what we're talking about here and getting through life's moments, and how it does give you that foundation stability, and is so important for our brain health. But at the same time, it's also preparing for us if we're gifted our golden years to be able to actually show up and function in those golden years and keep living and playing. And so you can't help but be inspired. I'm sure when the 79 year old walks in just ready to rock. And it's kind of showing up all the other ones to say keep up. It's it's awesome. It's a little bit of a downer for me almost because I can't I can't I can't go on another level. I can't put her like to a point where she's, she's at failing. I'm like what is going on with me? There's 25 year olds that are super fit. And they're saying enough. And then she's at the end of class, she Hanks, she gets on the bar and she hangs. And I'm like, Oh, that's so good for you. And I'm like, wait a minute, that was we just did a class, what are you doing? So that tells you something about work now also tells you something about putting in the work it maybe it's not always the thing to do. But I feel like in society we don't put in enough. That's just an opinion. But I feel like if that, that we kind of go towards that place? Well, I gotta rest, I gotta make sure I get my rest. And I gotta, you know, recover. Which is true, of course. But there's a little bit of like a pullback in the workout itself, for people to go, I'm doing enough, well, you could do more? Well, and I think even when you zoom out that lens, just as a society in general, never before have we had so many distractions available to us. And most of those distractions are the things that numb us to a degree, it's quite mindless. And there's a pull factor there because we live in stressful times. And not to say that every generation hasn't had stressful times. But it's polarizing times. And collectively as a society, we've been through really real things. And then the under layers of that is that every single human and little being that you walk by in a day also has whatever stresses or burdens, or maybe they're having the happiest days, but it's like we're all moving through the flow of life. And I think that as the years go on, you realize nobody gets through it with just happy days every day. Nor would I want that to be the case for anybody. Because without the contrast, you would never realize those good, beautiful moments. But unfortunately, I think a lot of our society is just pulled into these distractions that are available, and they're robbing themselves of the potential in the fullness that they ultimately could have. And if there was ever a theme amongst people that do celebrate movement and exercise, I think they're the ones that recognize the most that. Yes, there's so much not in our control. But like your mindset, and you have a choice of what you participate in and how you participate. And that's the part I think we get because we do the work. If you're just scrap the cosmic joke. The joke is like if you get to get into an elevator, and you close your eyes, and what are you thinking, you're thinking about what everybody else is thinking about? Are they looked at any of this data? And the funny part add to that is, if each individual within that elevator, if it's a packed elevator, they're all thinking the same thing you're thinking about is that person thinking to me that everybody's thinking about the same thing. And it's just a big, jumbled mess, but so it's, but I feel like fitness kind of like slows it or erases it almost, you just when you go to a really good workout, you know, it's a good workout. It's like a magic eraser and your brains, just, you can almost hear that. And it's like, you're good after or even more like, more prevalently in when you're in it. And when you can get to that place, when you're in it, and you feel that way, then it becomes something that you just crave. And it's done. It's the opposite of trying to get there. It's trying to stop you from getting there. And you're going, man, and you're scheduling it in above things that people would never do. Like, I'm sorry, I can't make that meeting, I gotta go workout. And guess what? People are gonna respect you for that. 1,000%? Well, Clint Prach, I appreciate number one, what you do from the industry side, obviously, when it comes to equipment sales, it comes from you from like, a true rooted place of passion. And I think that's what this podcast celebrates a lot. Because I do find this as an industry, for sure that just feels so tied to our why and our mission from such a genuine space. And I'm sure that the job is busy. But the fact that you still make time to work with clients, and just your evolution from those really early days where it may be came from a more superficial place. And the fact that you have had your mind open to everything that it can do and are part of that ripple effect. I appreciate that about you. And I do like to leave everybody with a little, it could be a quote or just a nugget of wisdom, but something to fuel up our day. So what's kind of that lasting note that you would like to leave us with today? Well, I have I have a couple. But I just want to say before I say that real quickly, what a awesome thing you're doing, you're filling a void that I knew was there for a while now, like, wow, I'll just keep Let's go. Let's go. Like you're awesome. And what a great idea. I would say I always say I had a radio show before and used to always say, motion is lotion. And if you're using the lotion in the right way, it's probably going to help you. So motion is motion, so just keep moving. And, and something that matrix says it's, it's different, but better. So seek out things that are that are different, but better, and don't maybe initially feel better. But if you keep trying different things, that's how you incur the change, and so don't be afraid to try different things. And then they often will become better, but you'll know I like and I'm gonna like just add to that and elaborate on what you're saying there because I totally hear that and it's it's not running away from the discomfort because generally different we love we're creatures of comfort, we'd stay there we'd marry the misery if we had to most humans would. And it's about pushing yourself into that space to just try the different and you're that's how we grow that better is the growth so they deserve better. Everyone deserves better. Yeah. Including that gym owner that needs that doesn't need but can do with zoom out and they deserve. They deserve better too. They don't need to look at the greatness that they are and what they're doing. Brilliant. Well, Clint, thank you so much for taking the time to sit with me today. I really appreciate it. Thank you. 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