The GovNavigators Show
Welcome, everyone, to the The GovNavigators Show - a government focused show that won’t make you seasick.
We hope to enlighten and enliven your week with news and insightful, entertaining guests all on the topic of government management.
Check out more at www.govnavigators.com
Episodes
157 episodes
AI for Readiness: Making Sense of Defense Data with Rob Bocek
This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Rob Bocek, Chief Commercial Officer at Virtualitics, for a conversation on ...
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Season 4
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Episode 150
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27:54
Joel Hinzman: The Man Who Crashed the Internet (And Wired Congress)
This week on the GovNavigators Show, we're joined by Joel Hinzman, one of the most seasoned voices in government technology and policy, and a member of the
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Season 4
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Episode 149
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25:32
Wynn Coggins on Leading Through Crisis, Chaos, and Change
This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Wynn Coggins, former Acting Secretary of Commerce and now Chief Growth Officer at
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Season 4
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Episode 148
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31:15
Stuck in Pilot Mode: Deep Grewal on the Federal AI Readiness Gap and the Data Problem No One Wants to Fix
This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert Shea and Adam Hughes sit down with Deep Grewal, Vice President of Public Sector at MinIO, to unpack t...
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Season 4
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Episode 147
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27:20
The Oracle of Identity: Jordan Burris on Industrialized Fraud and the Government’s Daytona Moment
This special episode of The GovNavigators Show features a live conversation with Socure’s Jordan Burris, former chief of staff to t...
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Season 4
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Episode 146
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23:49
President’s Day Pop-Up: Shutdown Impacts, SBA 8(a) Cuts, and a $23 Trillion Reality Check
In this special President’s Day pop-up episode, the GovNavigators break down a fast-moving week in federal management and policy. They unpack the latest partial shutdown and what it really means for DHS employees, travelers, and the long-term o...
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Season 4
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Episode 145
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5:31
Back to School with Mike Wetklow
This week, the GovNavigators are joined by Mike Wetklow, former Chief Risk Officer at the IRS and longtime federal financial leader, to kick off a new series on the pod, introducing you all...
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Season 4
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Episode 144
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28:09
The Lending Brief Podcast: Bill Webner on Why Federal Lending Needs a Single, Modern Platform
In this episode of The Lending Brief (sponsored by Allocore), Bill Webner, CEO of Allocore, joins the podcast to break down wh...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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22:03
Leadership Across the Pentagon and Beyond: A Conversation with Venice Goodwine
This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Venice Goodwine, former CIO of the Department of the Air Force and current CIO and Product Owner at
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Season 4
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Episode 143
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30:10
Doug Criscitello on Fixing Federal Lending from the Ground Up
This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam are joined by Doug Criscitello, newly named Executive Director of the Center for U.S. L...
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Season 4
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Episode 142
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28:21
Inside the Machinery of Federal Lending with Anthony Curcio
In this episode of The Lending Brief (sponsored by Allocore), the GovNavigators talk with Anthony Curcio, Senior Partner at
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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21:56
Telling Government’s Story Right: A Conversation with AGA’s Jon Stehle
This week on The GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam sit down with
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Season 4
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Episode 141
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25:32
Terry Gerton Knows What Drives Federal Employees
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam kick off 2026 with Terry Gerton, former President and CEO of the
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Season 4
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Episode 140
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26:40
Dave Lebryk on Crisis Payments, Fraud Prevention, and the Future of Federal Lending
In this episode of The Lending Brief (sponsored by Allocore), former Treasury Fiscal Assistant Secretary and Acting Deputy Secretary
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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18:23
Pop-up Episode: Mele Kalikimaka from the GovNavigators!
In this special Christmas pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam close out a truly wild year in government with reflections, gratitude, and a well-earned holiday sendoff. We raise a glass to the remarkable career of Gene Doda...
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Season 3
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Episode 139
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9:59
Nick Hart on the Power of Good Data in Government
This week, the GovNavigators sit down with our good friend Nick Hart, President and CEO of the Data Foundation, for a wide-ranging conv...
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Season 3
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Episode 138
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29:41
The Lending Brief: Kate Aaby on Breaking Silos and Modernizing Federal Lending
In this episode of The Lending Brief (sponsored by Allocore), former SBA CFO and Associate Administrator Kate Aaby
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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Saving the Tech Modernization Fund with Ross Nodurft
This week, the GovNavigators welcome Ross Nodurft, Executive Director of the Alliance for Digital Innovation<...
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Season 3
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Episode 137
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24:40
Sairah Ijaz on Rebuilding Government Through Better Processes
This week, the GovNavigators sit down with Sairah Ijaz, Managing Director at Celonis and former ...
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Season 3
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Episode 136
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27:08
Pop-up Episode: Happy Thanksgiving from the GovNavigators!
The GovNavigators drop in with a special Thanksgiving pop-up to talk shutdown aftershocks, the rocky restart for federal employees and contractors, and what the latest CR means for the months ahead. Robert and Adam also recap the launch of the ...
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Season 3
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Episode 135
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8:28
Love Rutledge on Life After DOD and the Future of Federal Talent
This week, the GovNavigators welcome Love Rutledge, host of the Fed Upward Podcast and recently retired Senior Executive from the Depa...
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Season 3
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Episode 134
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27:41
The Lending Brief Podcast: Ben Wallace on Modernizing Federal Loan Systems
Welcome back to The Lending Brief, brought to you by the GovNavigators and sponsored by Allocore. The Lending Brief shares stories of innovation, challenge, and ...
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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Ted Kaouk on AI and the Future of Federal Innovation
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome Ted Kaouk, former Federal Chief Data Officer and (as Adam puts it) the godfather of the federal CDO community....
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Season 3
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Episode 133
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