
The GovNavigators Show
Welcome, everyone, to the The GovNavigators Show - a government focused show that won’t make you seasick.
We hope to enlighten and enliven your week with news and insightful, entertaining guests all on the topic of government management.
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Episodes
122 episodes
Unlocking Federal Real Estate: Efficiency, Partnerships, and the Path Ahead
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert sit down with
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Season 3
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Episode 121
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29:53

Remember the Mission: Darren Ash Reflects on His Career in Public Service
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam meet with Darren Ash, former federal CIO of multiple agencies, most recently at the Department of the Interior. Ash shares wisdom...
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Season 3
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Episode 120
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24:55

Empowering Public Servants with Karen Lee
Karen Lee, co-founder of FedsForward, joins the GovNavigators to talk about her journey through federal service, the challenges of transitioning in and out of government, and how her or...
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Season 3
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Episode 119
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29:47

Understanding Federal Procurement Consolidation with Brian Friel
This week, the GovNavigators sit down with Brian Friel, Co-Founder of BD-Squared, for a discussion on how federal pro...
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Season 3
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Episode 118
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30:20

The Performance Playbook with Nick Mastronardi
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Nick Mastronardi, founder and CEO of Polco and a former Air Force economist, joins the show to talk about t...
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Season 3
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Episode 117
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28:59

The Past, Present, and Future of FEMA with Eric Leckey
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert dive in with Eric Leckey, former Associate Administrator for Mission Support at FEMA, about the state of emergency response ma...
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Season 3
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Episode 116
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24:53

From OMB to IRS: Danny Werfel on Making Reform Stick
This week on the GovNavigators Show, former IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel joins us to unpack the Trump administration’s rapid-fire push to modernize the IRS—and what gets lost when speed outruns strategy. Drawing on decades of federal service, ...
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Season 3
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Episode 115
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26:51

Pop-up Episode: Celebrating Independence Day!
The GovNavigators prepare for Independence Day weekend in this special pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show. Unfortunately, leadership in Congress likely won't be enjoying the fireworks, as the administration insists everyone stay in town u...
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Season 3
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Episode 114
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7:57

Karen Kerrigan on Small Business at a Crossroads
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Karen Kerrigan, head of the Small Business & Entrepreneurship Council, shares insights from 30 years at the forefront of small business advocacy. From tax uncertainty and regulatory challenges to the pro...
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Season 3
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Episode 113
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29:58

The Impoundment Saga featuring Doug Criscitello
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Doug Criscitello, Program Integrity Fellow at Arnold Ventures, returns to unpack the resurgence of imp...
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Season 3
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Episode 112
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27:23

Soraya Correa on Rethinking Federal Procurement
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Soraya Correa, President and CEO of National Industries for the Blind and a longtime leader in federal acquisit...
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Season 3
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Episode 111
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27:22

The Oracle Returns: Charles Cooper on What’s Next
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Charles Cooper, Managing Partner and Founder of the Brumidi Group, returns to offer his no-nonsense forecast for what’s next on Capitol Hill...
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Season 3
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Episode 110
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30:01

Pop-Up Episode: Honoring Memorial Day!
The GovNavigators take a moment to honor Memorial Day and reflect on the sacrifices made in service to our country. With Congress narrowly advancing a reconciliation package before the long weekend, Robert and Adam also remember longtime good g...
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Season 3
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Episode 109
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6:24

Looking Under the Hood: Joshua Seawell and the Abundance Agenda
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Joshua Seawell, Head of Policy at the Inclusive Abundance Initiative, joins to break down the thinking behind the Abundance Agenda. Joshua s...
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Season 3
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Episode 108
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29:25

Reimagining Evaluation: A New Vision with Justin Baer
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Justin Baer, Senior Vice President at Fors Marsh, returns to share his perspective on the future of federal evaluation. Drawing from his recen...
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Season 3
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Episode 107
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28:06

Rethinking Government with David Walker
This week on the GovNavigators Show, former Comptroller General David M. Walker joins to discuss his tenure leading the Government Accountability Office and his mission to drive ...
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Season 3
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Episode 106
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26:45

Navigating Federal Real Estate with Norm Dong
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Norm Dong, Partner at FD Stonewater, joins to share insights from his distinguished career managing the federal government’s vast real estate portfolio. Reflecting on his tenure in public service, he discuss...
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Season 3
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Episode 105
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27:08

Unpacking the Budget: A Conversation with Andy Pavord
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Andrew Pavord joins to reflect on a career that spans academia, local and federal government, and the private sector. As President of the Ame...
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Season 3
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Episode 104
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29:53

A Conversation with Tim Brennan: Navigating the Road Ahead
This week, the GovNavigators are joined by Tim Brennan, Vice President of Government Relations at Professional Services Council, to discuss how
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Season 3
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Episode 103
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26:09

Part 2: David Lebryk's Adventures in the Government
This week on the GovNavigators Show, we wrap up our two-part conversation with David Lebryk, former Fiscal Assistant Secretary at the U.S. Treasury. In Part 2, David reflects on nearly 40 years of public service, the power of leadership, and wh...
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Season 3
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Episode 102
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28:06

Part 1: David Lebryk's Adventures in the Government
This week on the GovNavigators Show, we welcome David Lebryk, former Fiscal Assistant Secretary at the U.S. Department of the Treasury, for Part 1 of a two-part conversation. David shares the path that led him from a childhood shaped by public ...
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Season 3
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Episode 101
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29:35

100th Episode Special: Government Efficiency with Allison Brigati & Dan Heckman
This week, the GovNavigators welcome Allison Brigati, former Deputy Administrator of the General Services Administration, and Daniel Hec...
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Season 3
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Episode 100
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27:34

Ed Amorosi: “Well-Nigh Irrefragable Proof” and the Legal Battles Ahead
Ed Amorosi, partner at Haynes Boone, joins the GovNavigators this week to discuss the legal battles over executive orders, personnel dismissals, and contract cancellations. He un...
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Season 3
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Episode 99
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28:23

Diving into the GAO High-Risk List with GAO's Nikki Clowers
This week, the GovNavigators welcome Nikki Clowers, Managing Director of the Office of Congressional Relations at GAO, to explore the vital role GAO plays in supporting oversight on Capitol Hill. She breaks down the GAO High Risk List—why it ma...
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Season 3
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Episode 98
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27:19
