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Keeping Boobs From Bouncing: The Story of WRAX
**Order your WRAX here & use the code SPANDEX for 10% off**
What if someone finally solved the sports bra problem? Meet Frankie Elder-Reedy, the creator of WRAX – a revolutionary product that's changing how women experience movement during exercise by controlling breast bounce from the top down.
"I keep boobs from bouncing," Frankie explains with refreshing straightforwardness. After years of frustration with inadequate sports bras that either squeezed uncomfortably or put strain on her shoulders, she identified a simple principle: "What goes up must come down. If it doesn't go up in the first place, then it's not going to come down." This insight led to creating a product that prevents upward and lateral movement rather than relying on compression.
Frankie's entrepreneurial journey began with personal need but quickly revealed a much wider impact. Beyond physical comfort, her creation addresses the emotional and psychological barriers many women experience during physical activity. From teenage girls avoiding sports due to embarrassment to wrestlers needing secure support during competition, WRAX offers a solution that promotes both confidence and performance.
The product line now includes three versions: the fully adjustable WRAX Max, the hardware-free Flex for activities like jiu-jitsu, and a recently launched all-in-one sports bra. What makes the harness versions particularly practical is their ability to work over existing sports bras, effectively upgrading whatever you already own rather than requiring new purchases.
Most surprising has been the unexpected performance benefits. Women report running faster and maintaining better form when using WRAX – advantages Frankie hadn't anticipated when she simply set out to make exercise more comfortable. As she describes her 2025 as a year of "bewilderment" filled with unexpected opportunities and connections, it's clear this innovation has only just begun to reveal its potential.
Ready to experience workout comfort in a whole new way? Visit mywrax.com to explore options for all body types and activities, backed by a 30-day money-back guarantee. Use the code SPANDEX for 10% off!
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Hello and welcome to the Spandex and Wine podcast. I'm your host, robin Hackney, and I'm so happy that you're here. This podcast is a place for conversations about balancing a healthy lifestyle and being happy more specifically, happy hour. Together we'll explore all things wellness and wine. I hope you learn a little, laugh a lot and, along the way, know you're not alone on this balanced wellness journey. Ready to jump in or something in your glass that makes you happy, because it's time for spandex and wine. Well, hello and welcome, frankie, to the spandex and wine podcast.
Speaker 2:Hi Robin, Thank you. I'm excited this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1:I'm excited too. I remember I don't even know it had to have been a couple of years ago. At least I had heard about your products, we had talked about it in my fitness classes, and then we just kind of you know, I don't know, we just let the ball go. And then I noticed on Facebook that we have so many mutual friends so I'm like I've got to talk to her. This is going to be great and I can't wait to hear all about your products. So let's start with a little introduction of yourself.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, if it's all right with you, I would love to just like pour myself a little glass of wine.
Speaker 1:You are in the right place. You're in the right place.
Speaker 2:This is a really great excuse to do so At 1230 in the afternoon.
Speaker 1:Yes, and what are you pouring in your glass? Let's just touch on that now. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this is Blue Dog Wine Co out of Mound City. Okay, have you been there? I have not been there. Oh my gosh, they are the coolest people. Sarah and Tracy Johnson own Blue Dog Wine Co and this is the Pooch smooch. This is what I already had and it's lemon wine and it is like glorious. Yeah, it's nice. And that's perfect for today it is gorgeous outside.
Speaker 2:It is, and so the timing is great because we'll finish our chat and I'll probably go outside and sit in some sunshine and drink some more lemon wine.
Speaker 1:Nice. Okay, I'm going to have to check that out for sure. Yeah, it's definitely worth a drive down there. It's a cool spot, okay, and we're kind of halfway there. We're south of Lewisburg, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'd love to meet you there. Okay, we should have done the interview there we could have. Yeah, well, frankie, yeah.
Speaker 1:Let us know about you, what you do. I want to hear all about it.
Speaker 2:Okay. So, um, I, my name is Frankie Elder Reedy and I keep boobs from bouncing. That is the thing that has got my full focus right now. Um, I've been an entrepreneur excuse me, an entrepreneur my whole life though. So it's like's like, um, what do you do could be? You know, I could have uh different answers to that question, but, um, yeah, right now I'm just fully focused on my new product, new ish, like you said, you, I think you said you saw it or heard about it a couple years ago, but, um, still still building.
Speaker 2:Like, this is, uh, from the entrepreneurial side of things, this is a different, different animal than anything I've ever experienced before. So, um, the product is called racks, yes, racks. So it's definitely, you know, intended to be a fun play on words, um, but it's the world's first sports product control bounce from the top down. So, um, as an athlete, uh, you know, I can't tell you how many miles I put in over the years, like, and now, you know, I'm 47 years old. Now, I'm not like competing really in anything, I just like to put one foot in front of the other to get clarity of mind.
Speaker 2:It's more of an emotional piece of my wellness. Um, but I don't like bouncing when I'm doing it, you know. Um, I love hit workouts, I love box fit workouts. I really still very much enjoy a lot of dynamic movement.
Speaker 2:Um, I just I can't tell you like how many miles I put in burpees and whatever different things, and was just so frustrated because I could not find. I was looking for something that does what racks does and I just couldn't find it anywhere. So I finally just decided to figure out if I could do it myself, and by myself I definitely don't mean so at myself, I can't sew a pillow. So I had to find the right people, which is kind of a story in and of itself, but found the right people that could help me with, like the engineering part of it and you know, the R&D part and you know, kind of got the first prototype and and had a kind of a moment. I'll never forget that moment because it was like, holy shit, it works. It just it was, yeah, and it's just been kind of one bewildering, cool moment after another ever since then.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and I was reading on your site and I'm paraphrasing. But what goes up must come down. If you keep, if it doesn't go up in the first place, then it's not going to come down, right, right, very simple.
Speaker 2:So you know, yeah, I'd be, I'd be out running and I'd be like holding myself you know, yeah, and, and I was doing that because I was like, well, if they, I was just thinking like I would even say out loud, like I'm running along you know my dog's beside me and I'm like cussing my dogs, you know like where did they just make something, cussing at them anyway, it's ridiculous. But, um, I was really frustrated because it seemed so simple to me.
Speaker 2:It seems so simple. I'm like why don't they just make something that keeps them from coming up?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I could not find it anywhere. Um, now there are some sports bras that I've tried over the years that have been like the ones that cinch higher. I don't know if you've ever seen any of those. I have a few different kinds of that, Um, and they, I will say I do think that they, they reduce bouncing a little bit, but, um, when you have a larger chest, as I do, I have double D's all that really ultimately does is put a bunch of strain and pressure on your shoulders.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, um, while it does kind of mitigate the bouncing, it just kind of causes another problem, and I didn't want to just trade one discomfort for another, yeah. So, um, yeah, I just I, I figured out a way to make them not come up in the first place. If they don't go up, they can't come back down. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Now, is it an actual sports bra or is it an harness? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so um you can I don't know if you can kind of see these guys.
Speaker 1:I can see yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, this one over here is the one we started with, so that's called the racks max. Um, that one is adjustable over either breast. It's like that's kind of the the heavy duty version, if you will. That's that one's from. Like ladies who have a really chesty, um, it, it. It definitely provides the most amount of control. Um, the adjustability is nice, because no woman's body is perfectly symmetrical.
Speaker 2:You know, yet all sports bras are. They kind of have to be Um, but that adjustability piece is kind of nice. Um, it's really great for for women who are breastfeeding, because they have such a vast change in the size of their breasts just throughout the day. Um, so it can be customized to their personal curves and shape. Um, so that's a nice option.
Speaker 2:And I was listening to feedback from customers and and they were like I don't really want these buckles, um, I have one particular customer who is a jujitsu badass and she can't have the hardware right, so she liked the control, but she couldn't roll with it. So, um, just kind of continued to listen and innovate. So we came up with the next one, which is this guy in the middle. That's the flex. It's softer, elastic, so it's not as rigid and it doesn't have the um, uh, the hardware. Um, it still provides a significant difference in control and doesn't? You don't have like any um, you're not trading one discomfort or another, it's very comfortable. And then last Friday I'm so excited Last Friday I got to pitch on the stage at the planetarium at union station was the coolest experience.
Speaker 2:Um and I launched my new product. So I do have the technology of the original racks designed into an actual sports bra. So you can see these two over here they're. They're kind of harnesses. You sort of put them on over, you know, over a shirt or over a sports bra or whatever that holds men. But now we do have that technology like in one all in one solution in a sports process. I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, congratulations, that's awesome, thank you.
Speaker 2:It's taken, you know, like, like I said, it's, it's, it's actual engineering. I mean all the props to these ladies who know what they're doing, because I'm sure, and the the science and the technology that you know the engineering it takes to create stuff like this. It's been cool to watch, been cool to be a part of.
Speaker 1:Oh, I bet I bet. And you're so right. I mean, I feel like jeans, swimsuits and sports bras are so hard to find right, the one that really fits you. So how did you go about finding the right person to help you design this and then have it come to fruition?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I just searched online to see who was out there and I came across a woman named Heather Zager, with Made Apparel in Seattle Washington. She is just like, oh my gosh, I just fell in love with her. The experience was really cool. So I'd never even heard of Marco Polo before. Have you heard of that app? Yeah, okay, I'd never used it before.
Speaker 2:So she introduced me to it and we were communicating with that and it was just like a lot of you know, trial and error, you know just conversations back and forth, and I'd mail her material and she would, you know, I was telling her what I was envisioning and what I was seeing and she was actually making it work with you know, sewing it and she'd mail back the sample and I'd test it and it was just like iteration after iteration from just trial and error. So she, yeah, it took a long time just from the you know, just having to wait for the mail. So that part kind of wasn't great because I'm not a very patient person, yeah. And then I came across Laura Treece and she's with Fashion Tech KC, so she's just up the road, okay, and she's helping me with the production.
Speaker 2:So these are all sewn by Burmese refugees in Kansas City. So yeah, we're really. These ladies are fantastic at what they do Like super high quality work, wonderful human beings, like it's just been, all of it has just been. I know this might sound kind of silly but have you ever picked a word of the year?
Speaker 2:Have you ever participated? May I ask what your word of the year is for 2025? Well, I didn't do one in 2025.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, what? Was last year's word, but I have a client that every you know I do. I FaceTime with her and every January we're like what's your word, what's your word? I think, mine last year was empowerment or something like that. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:I was just I love hearing what other people's words are and stuff I picked the word bewildered for 2025. Okay, yeah, I know it's a weird one, but I like, I love, but I like, I love that. I love that feeling. Like the way I experience the feeling of bewilderment is like just in a sort of a state of awe and amazement, like holy shit, is that? Is that actually happening? Like in a good way, you know, in the best way possible. And it's crazy because, like 2025, so far that's just all it's been.
Speaker 2:It's just like I said yesterday like it's coming in hot. You know, it's just like all these wonderful things just kind of keep coming together and yeah, I've just been like constantly bewildered so far in 2025. And I'm just like hoping to continue. You know like, yeah, continue that. It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that for you. That's awesome. That's awesome. And you had said that your double D's. We don't need to say my size, but I am not that large. We don't need to say my size, but I am not that large. Still important for our tissue to make sure that we protect and support everything. So speak to that just a little bit.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad you brought that up. So I actually met a friend last night at the gym for her to do some testing for me. So she's a. I wrote down all of her, like I wrote down all the things, so I'm keeping track of all of this stuff. Um, but she's a B cup, she. She wears the 34 B, she's 50 years old, um, and we did 30 seconds of burpees, um, 30 seconds mountain climbers in the plank position, 30 seconds mountain climbers in the standing position, and she did that without racks, just wearing her regular, her regular sports bra, and then she put the flex on the one in the middle here. So she did it both with and without. And I asked her, like on a scale of one to 10, like one being, you didn't notice any difference at all and 10 being, I never want to work out without this again. The answer to that question was eight.
Speaker 1:And she's a yeah Again.
Speaker 2:the answer to that question was eight and she's a yeah, so it's, the thing is, you don't have to be really chesty in order to notice the benefits of this product, because the thing is, all breast tissue moves. I mean it all moves. It doesn't matter how much of it you have, if you have it, it's moving. Yeah, now, I do think that, in fact, I know, as I've seen, you know, been looking at these studies and stuff that you know, the larger your breasts, kind of, the more it affects your physical impact, your performance, um, but that's what gets me really, really excited about what I'm really wanting to achieve here.
Speaker 2:Um, the the number one goal for me is to help women who were either modifying workouts not have to modify or, if they were avoiding working out altogether because they couldn't find a sports bra, that was adequate enough. Support or control. I'm going to say the word control because to me, support is it kind of insinuates from the bottom up. Yeah, okay, so to me, I'm, I'm looking, you know, I think most women are looking for something that provides more control. Okay, this product doesn't push them down, by the way, either.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. You don't want that.
Speaker 2:No, it's not like um. I mean like most sports bras rely on, you know, like a couple of different things, basically just compression, either just like tight, tight, tight in order to try to provide control, or the cinching higher, which does help reduce bounce, but again it just puts extra pressure on the shoulders. So I wanted to create something that didn't put the pressure on the shoulders, didn't have to be tight and you have more control than something that you know was way tighter. So that was the ultimate goal and I think we really was way tighter. So that was the ultimate goal and I think we really yeah, I think we got.
Speaker 1:I think we nailed it Nice, nice. Well, when I saw that you signed up for the call for today, I'm like, okay, I've got to get one of these bras before then, cause.
Speaker 2:I want to try it.
Speaker 1:I'm like okay, that's okay. I can get it afterwards, because I do want to do a product review of a lot of things that you know I've tried over with some of the guys, so that'll be a fun one to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would love to. I would love to get your feedback. I'm meeting another friend tonight at the gym Cause I'm I'm really just wanting to get you know feedback. Like dad, you know, I want to do like quantitative and qualitative, so I want to. I want to have the how many reps can you get in? You're like, let's MRAP this, let's. How many reps can you get in 30 seconds without it? And then you know you're, you're going full out. So no, no difference in effort. Yeah, Not, not any different difference in perceived effort. Yeah, Okay, Okay, and then full out again with it on and see if there's a difference.
Speaker 1:That's awesome and I feel like it would be good for post-op as well, for anyone that had any type of augmentation or whether it's some kind of breast cancer. You know surgeries, I would think that would be really helpful.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think the, especially the max, and you know, with the adjustability, you know, because if somebody is dealing with a mastectomy or even a lumpectomy and they're not having any type of correct you know I don't want to say the word corrective because there's nothing to correct there's nothing wrong with them, Right Right, there's nothing wrong with their breasts.
Speaker 2:But if they're not having a cosmetic procedure following that, they're going to have, you know, difference in size and shape, and so that's something that sort of was lacking in the. No, difference in size and shape, and so that's something that sort of was lacking in the in the market altogether, Um, I think, probably, uh, especially in sports bras, you know. So, um, maybe nice to have something in the as an option. And I'll tell you what, like my brain, it just does not stop. Like the, the, the amount of ideas I have up here is almost overwhelming sometimes, you know, Um, but from the entrepreneurial standpoint, I have up here is almost overwhelming sometimes, you know, but from the entrepreneurial standpoint, I have to, like I've got to get some traction with this before I can continue to create new things.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of where I am right now as far as as far as innovation like, yeah, just so far these three, but there's lot of sure there other potential. You know we you got to test it and see if it's even a worthwhile, worthwhile idea. But there's certainly no shortage of ideas up there I'm an idea person too, so I totally understand it. Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, it's too much right, right, and I tend to okay, I'm going to start this. Oh wait, I've got to finish this first before I do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Right, yeah, cause you're so excited.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. So are you in stores or is it just that you purchase online?
Speaker 2:Um, right now it's mainly online. Um, I did. I mean, I just walked into a store in Wichita. I was in a cohort for not being an entrepreneurial side of things. I was in a cohort in Wichita over a year ago now and I just walked in and introduced myself and had a great conversation with the store owner and he purchased some that day. So, there, he's got some there. Unless he's sold out, I need to check in with him. I had a tack shop in West Virginia, purchased some. So, yeah, okay, yeah, so like it's one of those things where also is, you know, like I created it, basically created it for myself, like I just wanted it, you know, and then, like I said, all these things kind of continue happening. There are sort of these for me bewildering moments where it's like, you know, I had a cross country coach have her kid wear it and she ran faster.
Speaker 1:Hey, sorry to interrupt. I hope you are getting super excited about the Racks sports bra. If you are local in the Kansas City area. Frankie is going to be teaching a class at my fitness studio and she's allowing us that half of the class we're going to be able to wear the Racks sports bra and half of it without. So it's kind of like a try before you buy type of deal. If you'd like that information, reach out to me. You could text me at 913-392-2877, or you can email me at info at spandexandwinecom or just find me on social media. If you are not local, well, go on the website, check it out. You can also message me for me to give you my honest opinion and those of the ladies in my class. And, who knows, maybe her product might come with me on some of my workshops that I'm going to be doing across the country. All right, let's get back to the episode.
Speaker 2:Like she was running faster, like unknowingly. So when, when my friend told me that, I was like oh yeah, get it, kid, like I thought she just meant that she was putting forth more effort, you know, and she's like no, frankie, like she's running faster. And then she was telling me what she was observing and the way her form was different, versus with it off, and that was before I ever launched, like that was just in some of the product testing stuff, like just kind of getting feedback from people.
Speaker 2:And I mean that was one of those moments where I was like like, oh my God, are you seriously? Because I didn't create it with the intention of it improving performance. I just wanted to be more comfortable. It was a selfish creation, you know. I just I wanted it for myself. And then that's kind of continued to happen, where I'm getting that kind of feedback.
Speaker 2:Like I had a um this is another one of my favorite stories. Like I had a woman who came up to my booth before a race Um, it was uh, uh, the Memorial day race in Kansas city. Um, and you know, she bought a, she bought the flex and I didn't, you know, didn't really think anything. I was just kind of having conversations with lots of people. Well, after the race was over, she came back to the booth and told me that she wore it for the race and just kind of had this glowing review and she was like it's the most fun. Yeah, it's really hard to put into words how, how fun it is to actually see the impact that it's making, whether they're just more comfortable or if they're more confident. Like that probably means more to me than anything. I have one um testimonial review whatever you want to call it from a woman who literally said her confidence is more than doubled and like that kind of stuff, like makes me cry, you know, yes, like that's a big deal.
Speaker 2:But even as kind of part of my origin story too. I mean, it's not when you're in your body. You experience your. You know, you've experienced this for over years. You know, like, um, I was frustrated as an adult. But when I was a kid like a high school kid I ran in town from a really, really small town and I always ran the same route. So it was like, you know, I ran the same route because I knew there would be no dogs on that route.
Speaker 2:No dogs would come chase me. But there was also a guy who knew that that was the route that I ran and he would literally just like go park and watch me.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm like this is this is real, this is like this is what people are, this is what women are really dealing with, um, and as a young, as a young person what? 16 years old or whatever like I didn't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know what do you do. So it was like well, I could either run faster, which only made the bouncing worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Or I could slow, I could walk and prolong the amount of time that I'm getting stared at.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like these are my options, or I can turn around and go back and, like you know, this was before GPS watches. You know I have a goal and I was 16 so I did have goals at that time. So I was like I'm trying to run this route in this amount of time yeah so it's not like it was all the time.
Speaker 2:It's not. It's not like he was you the time. It's not. It's not like he was, you know, watching me, like daily, or anything, but it that's not the point. The point is this is you know when you this happens?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, and I think about, like young women who, um, at whatever age that could possibly be avoiding participating in sports because of it you know, whether it's physical discomfort or more of a, an emotional discomfort, it it doesn't matter. I don't want them to feel that discomfort. I want them to feel like confident and capable and ready to perform, whether they're getting getting hit in the track, the, the treadmill, the court, the, whatever, like the mat, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, matter of fact, mentioning the mat, like I'm getting pretty excited about this too, because I this is a little crazy. I don't know exactly what the rule is, but I've just recently learned that they had to implement a new rule regarding sports bras in wrestling. Oh, okay, like this is a like a new thing, I guess, and it's kind of I don't want to say any, I don't know how to say this it's kind of crazy to me that that it's a rule, that they, that they, this is going to this might sound a little bold, but quite frankly, I don't think we needed a rule change.
Speaker 1:Ah, okay.
Speaker 2:Like what girl wants to have? What high school girl wants to have her boob come out of her bra.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, no, like trying to have got like this isn't, this was they didn't. They don't need a rule, they need their gear.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, the gear they need didn't exist or they would be wearing it. So I'm really excited to be able to offer those kids something that's actually going to hold them, because the straps of racks prevent upward and lateral movement yeah so you know that that I get pretty excited about that too. Like they need to be able to get out on that mat and focus on what they're there to do not be distracted or worrying about, you know, any kind of movement or any of that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited for you because I see so many possibilities for this. It's amazing yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean about the bewilderment. I'm like what Like and then just like kind of the things that have happened along the way and the conversations and the people that I'm meeting and, um, like I, I am getting re. I've been really excited and I'm going to be really honest with you too right now. If that's all right, okay. Um, like sales are not where I want them to be, you know, um, but I think it's because I'm learning how to do this.
Speaker 2:I've never done it before. You know, I'm trying to figure it out as I go. I have no idea how to, how to do this really, Um, but there is. There's been a lot of progress in other types of ways, you know. So I know it's going to come together. But, like, I just really deeply appreciate the questions and your willingness to to ask questions and have a conversation about it, because the thing is, as I see it, like the women or the girls who could benefit from from racks, like they just don't even have any idea it exists.
Speaker 2:And when you're talking to somebody like myself that, like I, literally used laundry change to get to an event because I didn't have enough money to put gas in my tank. You know, like this is the life of an entrepreneur, you know, yes, no, I hear you yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean this is I'm not complaining, Like it to me it's. It's a fun story. Like I, I use that laundry change. I got gas in my tank and I went to that event and I sold out and I was able to pay for my gas to get home. So it's fine, but it's um, it's. It's also, I think, okay to ask for help, you know. Yes, yeah, yeah so definitely in a position at this point to just be straight up asking for help.
Speaker 1:Okay. How can the listeners find you then? How can they get their hands on their, their own product?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm, um, I'm terrible at social media, but I do have social media um pages. So we're on Facebook, instagram, youtube, okay, um, tik TOK, and they're all my racks. So it's M Y W R A X, um, and so is the website. So that's, of course, the wwwmywraxcom, and I realize that's like kind of a crazy way to spell it, but there's a sort of a little story that goes with the spelling too. Okay, do tell. So my dad was an entrepreneur. Unfortunately, we lost him many years ago. I'm sorry, it's okay. He was fantastic and we're appreciative of the time we had. Um, he named me.
Speaker 2:My middle name is Frankie, my name is Frankie Ray, and he chose my name, um, and my middle name is spelled W R E Y, so the W R A X is like kind of like my nap, my nod to my dad, you know like kind of my.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm going to tear up. Oh, that's so sweet.
Speaker 2:Thanks. I mean, if I really think about it, I would tear up too.
Speaker 1:But instead I think.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to have a drink of wine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go, there you go. Okay, now everyone listening you guys need to go to the website and get your own product and then I'm assuming like testimonials and reviews would be great for you oh my gosh, yes, and I'm terrible about asking for them, or I was.
Speaker 2:I'm going to phrase that in a way that's going to help me move forward with a better habit of just straight up asking because I think people want to.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm the same way you know I just buy something and I don't follow through with letting the person I purchased it from know what I, what my experience is, and that, yeah, of course I mean, I think especially something like this. It's kind of it's a totally different way of going about it. I realized that and sometimes when people, when women, look at it, I've had women make some pretty crazy comments about what they think it is If they don't really know what it is. So I get it. It's just, it's a, it's a different, it's a new product with a different approach and um, other other people's experiences are always helpful in getting a person to understand. What does this actually feel like? What is it going to do for me?
Speaker 2:And that's they deserve to know that. But I will put out there too that, um, we do have a 30 day money back guarantee. It's um, not just that like, I will pay for this, for you to ship it back to me if you don't like it. That's um, that's uh, just how much I believe in it. Um, and yeah, I think people like it's experiential. You know, I get it. People want to put it on first. Sure, sure.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I have one more question for you, because, like taking off a sweaty sports bra is one of the hardest things is like part of a workout, so tell me about getting it on and off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that you asked that question. So I acknowledge that very, I very that I've had a lot of experiences.
Speaker 1:I've had to have my husband help me before I'm like, yeah, all right, I've had to have my husband help me before.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, all right, for real, I'm a volleyball player, so my shoulder has just been destroyed over the years, right, surgeries and all the things. So when a bra is so tight, with the compression I mean, I think it starts with putting something on your body that's really actually too small in an attempt to get the control that you need, right. So, first of all, you don't need it to be that tight and it's hard. Sometimes people are like it's, it's a new concept, it's, it's something you just have to experience.
Speaker 2:Um, I love when women get to come into my booth and I get to put the the um harnesses on over. You can just put them. They put them on over their shirts. They can get the experience. If you go to the social media channels, you'll see some of those experiences that women have had with it on over their shirt and I'll tell them like, see, you don't have to have this tight. This isn't tight, is it? And they'll be like no, and they're just like it's, I get it, it's experiential. But I very much appreciate you asking that question because you know I, if I had a sports bra and it's too tight, I literally have to bend over at the waist and like kind of I can't pull it up over my head standing because my shoulder hurts Shoulder.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I have to kind of try to put myself in a inverted position to take my bra off. Um, I'm sure it's hilarious, like, yeah, I'm sure it's entertaining to watch and, to a degree, but yeah, it's a challenge, um so, um, there's that. Yeah, they're machine washable, hang dry, you know, pretty low maintenance, high quality, so they should last quite a way, quite a while. One of the things I would say about the harnesses um, I love that we have the sports bra now. I think that women are really going to love that. It's like an all-one thing. However, there is an advantage to the harness, and it's that you've already got a ton of sports bras right. I mean, how many sports bras do you?
Speaker 1:have.
Speaker 2:It's true.
Speaker 1:Yes, no, I don't even know I would yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you're like you probably don't wear all of them right when you're no, because some of them aren't my favorite anymore and yeah they're like at the back of the drawer, at the bottom or whatever.
Speaker 2:What's nice about the harnesses is you can put the harness over any of those, but you put the harness over your lowest performing, like the. It could be like a lounge bra. You put the harness with something like that and you'll get a more controlled experience than you'll have with your best sports bra alone.
Speaker 1:Nice, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2:That's yeah, that's great, yeah, so you, actually can save money, I guess, is what I'm saying because you can. Essentially, you're repurposing what you already have, rather than going out and buying a bunch, and I mean it depends on how much a person works out to you Like I don't, depending on what I'm doing, I don't wash the harness every time I wear it.
Speaker 1:You know, just hang it up and let it dry and wear it again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, You're putting it over. Yeah, yeah, okay, right, so, um, yeah, it's an opportunity to actually save some bucks we all like that. Might not have to dig into that laundry change quite so often. That's right.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, this has been so fun. I've really enjoyed talking with you and getting to know you. I feel just your energy. I can just feel how awesome you are.
Speaker 2:Thank you. I appreciate that, like I, just I like doing podcasts. I love meeting new people, especially people who are trying to make a difference. You know like get some information out there and sometimes just just information is all people really need. You know can make a big, big impact in their day. I would love to meet you at the gym, like yeah, I.
Speaker 1:You could come to one to our classes, like I have 6am and 8am, if you want some ladies to try it. Oh, you can do it, you can do it, I can do it.
Speaker 2:I can do it. Yeah, I would love to do that. If you want to figure out a time, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's set it up Cool, I like that. Okay, We'll talk after I yeah, after we click off record, we'll get that squared away. Is there anything else you want to share with the listeners?
Speaker 2:Um, I, you know, just appreciate, you know, appreciate feedback and if, if it's, um, not even just for myself, like anytime, especially you're, if you are dealing with a small business, you know, and somebody, if you see somebody has created something, or they're, they're um, working towards a personal goal or professional goal, I just think feedback is so extremely, extremely valuable and it's just not provided, you know. So I just encourage everybody to just like be willing to share your experience and if it's not a positive one, I think, still share it. Just don't share it on social media. Yes, please Go directly to the person and say hey, you know, this is, this is great, I love what you're doing. This is something that I think is an area of improvement, or maybe an opportunity to make it like that's also deeply appreciated, because generally, we want our product to be the best it can be, and it takes, it takes time and it takes paying attention and listening to those, those comments and feedback.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, awesome, well, thank you so much, frankie. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule. I know it's crazy. Yeah, well, okay, and we're drinking wine, so I don't have any wine. Oh, dang it.
Speaker 2:I mean I just on the wall.
Speaker 1:It's on the wall.
Speaker 2:I'll have two glasses then. Oh, that's so. I mean it's on the wall, it's on the wall, I'll have two glasses then oh, that's so nice of you, you're so kind, always giving. All right.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, and you take care. I can't wait to hear about everything that's going to happen for you in 2025. Thank you, I'll just be bewildered and I'm excited to. Yeah, yes, I love it. All right, or follow button. This is one of the best things that you can do for the podcast. If you'd also be willing to give a five-star review, that would be amazing and much appreciated. Lastly, please share an episode with a friend or five to keep the love going, and join the Spandex and Wine community in our private Facebook group by searching Spandex and Wine. Feel free to reach out to me at any time by emailing info at spandexandwinecom or text me at 913-392-2877. I appreciate you. Thank you.
