Pelvic Health, Plain And Simple w/ Lindsey Graham

Your body isn’t a collection of parts, and your pelvic floor isn’t a niche topic. It’s the quiet system that shapes how you lift, run, laugh, sneeze, and recover—especially through pregnancy and postpartum. We sit down with pelvic floor physical therapist Lindsey Graham to unpack the missing education most of us never get, and we turn it into practical steps you can use right away.

Lindsey shares her journey from marathon runner to C-section recovery to VBAC advocate, and why “just listen to your body” falls short without a plan. We get specific about breathwork and pressure management—360-degree rib expansion, exhaling on exertion, and how that protects you from prolapse, hernias, and hemorrhoids. We talk identity shifts for athlete moms, ditching all-or-nothing thinking, and building micro-habits that fit real life. You’ll hear how Lindsay assesses beyond the table, watching squats, lifts, and the everyday movements that reveal what the pelvic floor is actually doing.

We also bust bathroom myths. Hovering over toilets every time? Not ideal. “Just-in-case” peeing before you leave the house? That can retrain your bladder to sound false alarms. Lindsey breaks down the doorknob phenomenon and walks through simple strategies to retrain urgency with calm, breath, and gradual exposure. And pelvic health isn’t just for postpartum women—it’s for anyone with a pelvis: men navigating prostate changes, athletes with tailbone pain, and people with stubborn back or hip pain that hasn’t responded to standard care.

Looking for support that meets you where you are? Lindsey blends mobile visits, in-person care, and virtual coaching to make help accessible. Expect clear progressions, community, and a whole-person lens that includes movement, stress, sleep, and nutrition for bowel health. If you’re ready to feel strong, leak less, and move without fear, this conversation opens the door.

Find Lindsey on social media @hormonemethodmama

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome & Why Pelvic Health Matters
• 0:37 Meet Lindsay Graham, PT
• 1:39 The Postpartum Gap In Care
• 3:10 VBACs, Birth Choices, And Team Care
• 5:35 Identity Shifts For Athlete Moms
• 7:48 Early Rehab, Not All-Or-Nothing
• 10:19 Assessing Movement Beyond The Table
• 12:19 Myths: Leaking, Age, And Stigma
• 14:06 Breathwork And Pressure Management
• 16:13 Bathroom Habits And Bladder Training
• 18:07 Pelvic Health For Everyone
• 19:20 Tailbone Pain And Whole-Body Links
• 21:01 Care Models: Mobile, Online, Community
• 23:02 Finding Lindsay & Next Steps
• 24:03 Host Takeaways & Listener CTA

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:00

Hello and welcome to the Spandex and Wine Podcast. I'm your host, Robin Hackney, and I'm so happy that you're here. This podcast is a place for conversations about balancing a healthy lifestyle and being happy. More specifically, happy hour. Together we'll explore all things wellness and wine. I hope you learn a little, laugh a lot, and along the way, know you're not alone on this balanced wellness journey. Ready to jump in? Pour something in your glass that makes you happy because it's time for Spandex and Wine. Hey friends, welcome back to the Spandex and Wine podcast. So today's episode is one I know so many of you are going to relate to because we are talking about pelvic health. Yep, we're gonna go there. Again, I interviewed the vagina coach um about a year ago, year and a half ago, and that was fascinating. And trust me, you will be happy that I spoke with Lindsay Graham. Nope, not that Lindsay, the amazing pelvic floor physical therapist who is changing women's lives every single day. We talked about everything from childbirth and identity shifts to bathroom myths, breathing, pressure management, and why pelvic health is for everyone, not just postpartum moms. Lindsay gets real about the gaps in women's health care, how we can advocate for ourselves, and how simple changes can make a huge difference. It's truly a conversation every woman should hear. So pour your coffee or wine, no judgment, grab your leggings and let's dive in.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35

My name is Lindsay Graham, and I am a physical therapist. Um I've been practicing uh outpatient orthopedic PT for about 11 years, uh, which just means that I work with any issue like bone, muscle, or nerve. And then, you know, my first child, I wanted to go natural, but ended up in a C-section. Um, and I was a marathon runner, like ran like full marathons, four months pregnant. So I was like really into it and running long distances. And I was really training throughout my entire pregnancy. But that, you know, at that six-week appointment, my OB was like, oh, just gradually get back to activity, um, slowly listen to your body. And like I, you know, didn't know what that meant, you know. Like I was like, well, I had been running 20 miles, like I pushed past pain. Like, what does that mean after I had a baby? And how do I let my body heal and safely get back to activity? So at that point, I really realized like what a big gap there was of that postpartum education and even pregnancy. Um so yeah, I just really thought that there needed to be, you know, more of them. Um I wasn't really into it at that point, but I did go to public floor PT. One of my instructors was a public health PT, and I didn't even really have anything wrong. I just knew it was something I needed to do to get checked out and really get that plan to get back to running and exercising like the right way without getting hurt. Um, and it's really was just like humbling, you know, I could probably go right back to running and jump in, but I could barely like lift my leg off the table. My abs were so weak, you know. So it's like how do you bridge that gap? And and again, it was like an identity, you know, like running these long distances, but I was like taking care of a new child. And like, how do you even, you know, get through that and kind of even like slow down a little bit? Because I wasn't gonna be able to put in the time anymore, you know, having a kid, or I chose really to spend more time with family. Right. So, you know, just that working through that emotion too, you know, um, with someone else, like was just such a cool thing. Um, you know, you have an hour with these people, and like it's just like she was also orthopedic. So any like shoulder or knee or kind of hip pain that I had had throughout the way, she would also kind of address. So yeah, that's really kind of like my first experience with public health because it's a it's a whole different world in that. And I really never saw myself doing it. Um but that, you know, me doing it myself was just kind of wake, you know, awakening to what the public health therapist could do. Um so that was, you know, that was that part of it. And then throughout my second pregnancy, we had a public health therapist at my outpatient clinic. And so I saw her throughout like when I was pregnant, um, after I was pregnant, really guiding me through that with just pain because I was still trying to run and like how can I, you know, run pregnant and be safe? You know, my second kid was definitely different than my first, couldn't run as far, was taking care of a toddler. Like, how do I do this? You know?

SPEAKER_01: 4:39

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00: 4:40

Um so she really, really helped me there. And she was getting so many women's health patients. Some of them were coming to me. And of course, I didn't know like the actual internal work um yet, but you can help a lot with just the core work and the key goals and you know, just helping these women kind of navigate. So I'd get a couple of those patients and it would just like light me up, like to work with these moms, share my story, um, and really just to empower them, you know, to have the birth they wanted. And they they could have the birth they wanted and a healthy baby and a healthy, you know, their keep themselves healthy. Um, so I just knew that at that point I wanted to go into it.

SPEAKER_01: 5:24

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 5:25

So that's kind of how I got there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 5:28

Okay. Okay. So let me ask you this. You said that your first child was a C-section. Were you able to deliver vaginally the second time, or did you have a C-section?

SPEAKER_00: 5:36

I was, yes.

SPEAKER_01: 5:37

Same here. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 5:38

That's interesting. So I have three girls and um two were VVACs. And yeah, at that point, I kind of went against the grain a little bit. I had joined a lot of um online groups and where do I go? All this. And I actually switched from a hospital that was a little more medical to like a hospital that had midwives. They had known, and here in Kansas City, it's research hospital. Um, they had just been known for more um like a lower C-section rate and more natural, like they didn't push a lot of the medical stuff. Um and it truly was like a whole different experience. Um, I also had my kids very late in life because of uh going into grad school in my 30s, so 35, 37, and 39. So that's kind of a big kind of part of my story. But it doesn't, you know, matter how old you are. And I took care of my body and, you know, just had a team. I like really formulated team, got a doula. And I mean, it was amazing. Like it really was um such a great experience to have that. I know so many people think they have to have C-sections or they're not able to have this vaginal birth. And I think there's a lot of scare tactics out there that like doctors don't want to do it to risk themselves. They make you sign all these papers, but it really is just, you know, finding your team and following your heart with that. Um, and it was, I mean, I didn't have to use any medication with her. Um, by the time I got to the hospital, she was out in like two hours. Oh awesome. Um so and my third was even quicker, which is you know, kind of a funny story because I was like basically in labor all day, and like I had my maternity photos that day. Um my gosh. Yeah, and I was like in labor, and we actually did not make it to the hospital. Like I had a doula and she I had her in the car. So Oh my gosh. Yeah. So it was like that's crazy. I know it's probably scary for a lot of people. It was just like so empowering that like my body knew what to do. I remembered what the last one felt like. Like it was crazy, but also like I basically had an you know, completely uninvolved medical birth, and I did it all myself. You know what I mean? It was just so empowering that our bodies really can do this. So yeah, yeah, um, that was that was that. But yeah, it was and I healed so well, you know, just doing it yourself, like it was the best recovery I could have possibly had. Um, just like your body knows what to do, you know, trust that. Um I really emphasize that with my patients a lot. Like just trust your your body and what you want for yourself, your family.

SPEAKER_01: 8:03

And I love that you mentioned early on, like the psychology side of it too, is like you were saying that you were a runner, and then all of a sudden that was your identity and you couldn't run. Um, and I feel like that happens to so many women. Like we forget, I feel like my um, my generation and before, we were just like, okay, you just do it, and that's just what happens, and we don't talk about it. And I feel like now it's more acceptable to talk about the struggles, and it's so hard going from doing whatever you want to do at any point and been able to exercise and all of this to now you're limited, not just physically, but you also have this other toddler that you have to, or baby that you have to consider too. And I love that you mentioned that piece, and it sounds like you're working with your clients even through that too.

SPEAKER_00: 8:48

Yeah, and I feel like there's all kinds of different PTs out there, but I within my story have gone from, you know, a clinic that takes insurance to a women's own clinic that still took it, but had one-on-one appointments, and then now to like a cash pay practice, and it scares a lot of people. But I mean, I truly I guess people don't realize what we have to offer, you know, because it is a connection. It really is a connection with these women and seeing women going from the point of like they can barely fit one workout in and then they didn't do their exercises, they feel guilty, they don't want to come to the appointment because they didn't do anything, you know, to really like just let's just meet you. I meet you where you're at. Like if you can only do one or two, let's do it. Let's have it stack it. Let's, if you're doing uh brushing your teeth, do a squat and do some breathing. Like that's it. Just do that and like take one step at a time, you know? And now she's like at a gym, like working out a couple of times a week. And it's just so cool because I take that time to connect with her and email her, even though we're not still meeting on a regular basis, you know. I check in with her. Um, and it's just like I feel like that guidance with the professional that you'd have a relationship with is just so quality because like she probably wouldn't have had the confidence to go to the gym, you know. And I'm like, why not go for it? You know? And I think you have to have that balance of like, yeah, there's if you just sit there and do nothing, then you're gonna kind of atrophy and have this postural deficit, then you could have more problems later on. So we really should be getting into these women like two weeks, three weeks. Like they should be starting public health physical therapy a lot earlier. But on the other hand, like they're going back to straight on, running, crossfit, whatever, and they do have a risk, you know, of hurting themselves. They're putting pressure on the pelvic floor, getting prolapse, getting a hernia, you know. So it's really important to have that guidance on just to keep you in the middle. Because I definitely want to encourage you to get back to what you love, but also that identity piece, it's like I've now switched to mostly working out at the gym and doing my 20-minute PLDs at home. And that's okay. You know what I mean? It's not like I'm missing out on who I used to be. I'm not trying to catch up to that person anymore. I just, I'm like, I'm a new person and I I decided that I don't want to spend three hours running in the morning. Will I do a marathon again? Maybe I will, but not at this point in my life. And I think just accepting that and being okay with it, you know, it's not like you're losing something, it's you're gaining something else. And just like, I'm helping women go through that. Cause yeah, so many of them come to me saying like they don't know what to do. They used to do this and it's their mental health, and they can't because they're so afraid to go back to it. So it's like, how can we find that balance of like, we can do it, let's just modify it, or let's just do the exercises that we know aren't going to cause some issues, you know, like they're still doing the crossfit, but maybe not doing the overhead stuff, or maybe they're not doing the jumps yet, or you know, we really assess like what your pelvic floor is doing during this functional stuff. And I think that kind of sets me apart as well. I'm actually getting you off the table and watching how you squat. I'm watching how you lift. And, you know, that's a whole different story. Like your pelvic floor could be great on the table, you know. But if that's all you're doing, who knows what it's doing when you're like, you know, lifting a toddler, you know? It's a whole different story. So, and then again, that piece of just taking in that emotional regulation and you know, giving someone that safe space to just tell their story to me. Um, because on the other hand, there's you know, so many different medical professionals that don't even know what we do, um, and think it's just like for old ladies that leak. And so, I mean, I've had so many women like ask their doctors to come and they're like, Well, it's not gonna help you. That's only for old ladies, you know. So just a misconception, even in the medical field of like what we can truly do. We can have nothing wrong and still come and just get a plan on like what we can do for your pregnancy, what we can do right after, you know, how you know, even if you've had kids 10 years ago, it's and you've been leaking and never got help, we can still help. Like it's never too early and never too late, really. Um so I think it's just there's so much more to it than just checking out leakage, all that.

SPEAKER_01: 13:06

Yes, yes. Absolutely. And you know, when I got started in the fitness industry almost 24 years ago, I remember women like they would be doing doing jumpy jacks and they're like, nope, I can't do that. I'm gonna pee my pants, or they would run to the bathroom. And I'm like, I didn't get it. Like I was too young to understand, and I hadn't been through that before. Yeah. Um, I mean, I'd had my children, but um, it's just so interesting that there's a lot more information out there that people don't realize. You just have to find it. And I feel like it's now more prevalent. So I absolutely love everything that you're doing. It's so amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 13:37

Yeah, and I mean that's the other thing. I think we've been gaslighted so much too, because you don't have to live like that. Like so many women have been running, leaking, you know, and finding a route where they have a bathroom, you know? And like you don't have to live like that. Like you you absolutely can live in optimal and ideal health, and that's what we deserve. We really deserve to live in that optimal health, you know. So I think like it's just we think, oh, we've had a baby, we're gonna leak. And that's just how it's gonna be. And that's really not the case. Um, we can have like pain-free, leak free, jump, we can jump with our kids and all of that. Um yeah. It's just, yeah, and I think even doctors totally push women's needs off as well. You know, it's like, well, you know, you just that's what's gonna happen after you have a baby. There's nothing you can do, you know. So, and that just goes all the way into even menopause and education there, and you know, that's a whole another story. Um, but something that I really again, I think I'm different that I do look at someone as a whole person in their whole body, because if you're stressed or anxious or you know, have other medical conditions, like that could be affecting your pelvic health as well. Um, and I think our Western medicine is so segmental that like you look, you have elbow pain, you look at elbow, you know, you have a stomach ache, you go to your GI doctor when who knows where this is coming from. And like we're no one is looking at like the whole body, you know, as one. So I really just like maybe I'm not qualified to do all those different things, but I'm gonna help you and guide you to really get to the people that can and people that I trust or people that I know, like a doctor that is truly certified in menopause and getting you on the right path for that, because that's gonna affect your pelvic floor, you know. Um you're not sleeping, it's gonna affect your pelvic. If you're anxious and clenching your jaw, it's affecting your pelvic floor. So just really like giving people that space. And most come to me saying they've just been pushed around so many times by different doctors, they just want answers. So yes. And a lot of it ends up in that the bladder, the bowel, the, you know, the all the pain and all of that. It's such a crucial area that it's the last thing that we look at when it really should be the first.

SPEAKER_01: 15:59

Yes. Um, okay, so what is like one thing that every woman could start doing right now?

SPEAKER_00: 16:07

I would say I mean, breathing is crucial, you know, finding out how to truly breathe properly because I feel that can be so important just to help like with our stress and anxiety and get us into that parasympathetic state, but not only like really helps expand. And it's not just a belly breathing, it's not just deep breathing, it really is all different directions. So our ribs should be expanding out to the side, out to the front, out to the back. Um, and just getting that nice deep breath and being intentional about it for three to five minutes a day, if you can, because that not only helps you relax, but we get that nice good motion into the pelvic floor as we push that diaphragm down. And then learning the pressure management system with breathing too. Like when we are working out, we should be exhaling as we exert. So if we're lifting a barbell, we should be exhaling with that. If we're doing a squat on the push up, we should be exhaling just to prevent extra pressure on the pelvic floor.

SPEAKER_01: 17:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 17:12

And be able to, you know, avoid. I mean, I think we talk about all this stuff after, but we could really prevent hernias, hemorrhoids, prolapse, all that stuff if we just knew this pressure management. We're all lifting, we're all lifting kids, we're lifting boxes, gritting toys, all that. So starting with that breath is really, I think, something that's simple that everyone can do. But again, going to a PT because most people are not breathing correctly and just like having a professional go through it with them, you know, is really key because there's a lot of things that can affect that. If you feel like you're stuck, you may be. Maybe your back is tight, maybe your muscles and your obliques are tight. So it is um obviously good to go to someone professional, but at least like that's something, you know, simple that someone could start.

SPEAKER_01: 17:58

Okay. Thank you. That's great. And uh a couple of things that I've heard before. Tell me if these are accurate. I've heard that um like squatting to go to the bathroom, like hovering over a toilet, is one of the worst things you could do for your pelvic floor. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_00: 18:11

Well, um, I think if you have issues, you know, and if you're doing it every once in a while, you know, I think it's 80-20 with everything. Um, but it can definitely put a strain on there. So if if all else, just put some toilet paper down or put your little like seat cover down and just sit and go, you know. So I think with everything, we have these like, don't do this, like these fear tactics. And that's part of the problem. And I really think like if you're only doing it once in a while, eh, it's probably not. If you do have severe pain or bladder issues or like public health issues, probably should skip the squatting part. If you don't and you're healthy, it's probably fine every once in a while.

SPEAKER_01: 18:46

Okay, okay. I've also heard that like don't um, like I said, I'm leaving right now and saying to myself, oh, I better go to the bathroom, but I don't have to go. So why am I going? I've heard that that's a really bad thing.

SPEAKER_00: 18:58

Yes. Again, you know, in the middle. But um, I think what we don't realize is that just in case P, so this whole urge and incontinence, which means um you have so much urgency, you have to go right now, and you may not make it to the bathroom. You'll leak at that point. The actual incontinence part of urgency incontinence is the leaking part. So what we do is we create, like, if we say, I every time I leave the house, I have to go to the bathroom, you're retraining your brain, kind of like Pavlov. You're training your brain to bypass that whole system. Like we have a system, like a signal from our brain to our bladder, and we're usually able to, you know, hold it a little bit. Sometimes we're like, no, I don't have to go, I can hold it. And we could do that for a while. Our bladder should hold about 16 ounces. So if we're telling our brain as we leave to go, we start to associate now house, bathroom. We skip that whole process. And so, yeah, some people it's called the turnkey or the doorknob phenomenon, where as soon as they touch that doorknob, they have to go so bad that they leak. And so we actually have created this ourselves, um, this incontinence by training our brain. Um, so good news is that we are very um much able to undo that. Like it's a neural pathway. We just have to retrain. So a lot of that training is just actually teaching our bladder, like, hey, I can hold it and telling yourself that and um actually holding it a little bit longer or distracting yourself, calming and breathing, because usually we're all anxious and that makes it worse and that makes us go faster. So we just need to stop, breathe, try to distract ourselves and take some time, you know, see if we can instead of like rushing to the bathroom, like, can we slowly walk there? You know, so that's um again not like horrible to do, but also yes, we can create our own incontinence that way.

SPEAKER_01: 20:54

And and we think about all of pelvic floor health for just for women, I'm assuming that men can benefit from all of this as well.

SPEAKER_00: 21:02

Absolutely. And again, it's all ages too. Um so like it's not just postpartum. I have lots of patients that are early, you know, 20s that have not had kids too. Um, but yes, for men, like there's prostate cancer um that they could have issues with, but any pain, um, constipation, um, anything like that, they can also benefit from any of this pelvic health as well. So even tailbone pain, we've had patients with tailbone pain. Um, but it's becoming, I think, more and more popular. Uh, it's just a different mindset for men to come in for that too. Um, but usually once they're they're there, they want to get better as well. So yeah, just spreading the word that pelvic health really is for anyone with a pelvis, you know, any age, any um any, you know, gender, race, whatever you are. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01: 21:58

That's interesting that you would say tailbone pain because I um I had an injury, but my tailbone didn't start bothering me until like three months later. And now I'm wondering, was it when I was skydiving and hit the ground, or is it more my pelvic floor? So that's interesting. I'll have to explore that.

SPEAKER_00: 22:15

Yeah. I mean, that's why we assess, like even up until we assess your thoracic spine, because if there's limited motion there, it's got to go somewhere, right? And so, I mean, statistically, I don't know the exact stat or where it came from, but I know I've heard in some of my courses, over 90% of people with back or hip pain have some underlying pelvic floor issue. So if there was any kind of fall, there's definitely muscles that attach to the tailbone, you know. So if those muscles, a lot of times you can't get to them, besides internally, I mean, we just do a couple mobilizations of those muscles inside, and it really like dramatically helps these patients with the tailbone or back pain that they just haven't been able to get. And so anyone in the orthopedic world, if it's just not getting better, that it could be definitely a factor. Um, we look at the sacrum as well. We we look at how it, you know, how it's moving, it could get stuck, you know, all that stuff, very closely related, obviously, because those muscles attach to the tailbone. So it's always something we encompass in our evaluation is up and you know, below and above the public floor.

SPEAKER_01: 23:21

Sure, that makes sense. Yes. So, Lindsay, where are you located in Kansas City? How can people find you here? And then do you also offer online so people that don't live in the Kansas City area?

SPEAKER_00: 23:31

Right. So lots of things are are happening uh with me right now. Um I am in a clinic working for someone else now. We that clinic is closing, and I mean, at least for the um the location part of it in Lee Summit. Um, so my manager is going online. I'm starting online and then I um do mobile. So I right now go to people's homes as well. So that's something I really felt would be one, it has low overhead, but two, like getting into the mom's houses because I feel that it is a lot to bring kids into an appointment. And when you're in your own home, it just feels so much more comfortable. The kids at least can like they're comfortable with their toys and their own things. So that's been huge for just busy moms in general or postpartum moms, um, is a is a huge attract uh you know, aspect of that. And then I'm looking at kind of getting a location as well, trying to debate that um if I want my own place. Um, I was looking probably overland park area if I were to do anything. So that is kind of up in the air there, which I'll be deciding. And um, yes, I am starting to get online. Um, and I honestly like have the skills now to do Zoom meetings one-on-one 100%. Um, I always abogate for in-person because there's nothing that can replace that touch, that feel. But what we find with online, which my um manager is doing, is that it's um you can still improve too with online. And sure, I, you know, was very kind of biased to just in person, but like if it's a program where you're meeting with these people more often and like that hand holding, you know, just giving them a step by step, even if it's, you know, we meet weekly, but we have a certain window or you can ask questions and we're really on top of it. Where sometimes with one-on-one, like with my schedule and theirs, like we're not seeing each other for three weeks to a month, you know. So even like that traditional PT just doesn't work for some people, especially teachers or busy moms or working moms, if they can't get in person, like let's get you on virtual and you know, start telling you exactly what to do, what tools you need, what exercise equipment you need for your home. And I find that, you know, people can benefit from that as well. And the coaching aspect um definitely like can look into, you know, nutrition and like I can read labels and help you really navigate, like, especially with constipation or pelvic pain, you know, things that are gonna help with the inflammation, things are gonna help with the flow of the bowels, you know, all of that is a huge piece of it. And then, of course, nervous system regulation, emotional regulation. Like there's just so many pieces of life that I feel like this coaching could really help with that I think like I have that knowledge that I could do now with people as well. And it can be as simple as like we just meet on Zoom for one-on-one for 30 minutes, and then, you know, I'm really trying to create a program as well. So they have a community, they have a safe place to talk to, they have other women, you know, and if they don't feel safe sharing, they can go anonymous or ask me questions, and then I could talk about these topics, but then they can also ask some personal questions if they want to, anonymous or not, you know. So I feel that was such a huge thing for me. People kept saying, like, I have pain with intercourse. I asked my OB, they just told me to use more lube. That didn't help. Like, who do I ask? Like, who do I go to for this stuff? You know, I feel like people don't have a safe place to talk about this embarrassing stuff. And that's why people don't get help. So I'm really trying to create that. And I think just having other people, because once you start talking about it, so many people have these issues, you know. But it's just like people hide this for years, especially that older generation. I have people in their 60s and 70s that have literally never talked about it, you know? And it's just like, man, we could have gotten help 20 years ago. So I really want to create that community. And I think that online place will help. Um, and seeing other people get better, seeing other people with the same issues. Like I think that's just going to kind of break into that new realm of really getting people better faster than just this one-on-one model. Um, so yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting into that and and uh just making it more accessible for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01: 27:49

Yes, that's awesome. Oh my gosh. Okay, so tell us how we can find you on social media.

SPEAKER_00: 27:54

Yeah, so I'm just starting on social media, but um right now it's Hormone Method Mama is on Instagram. So I'm really trying to get more, you know, tips and and I'm working on my freebie and all that fun stuff, but definitely can connect with me there. Um, and again, just trying to work through all that. That's kind of my back end of the burner. So I don't have a whole lot of stuff there, but you know, it's somewhere you can find me for sure. Sure. Yeah. I'm growing that as I grow all of this.

SPEAKER_01: 28:25

Yes, yes, there'll be more content coming, I'm sure. That's amazing. Lindsay, thank you so much for taking time out of your day. I really appreciate it. This is fascinating. I hope a lot of people reach out to you to get more information or to schedule an appointment with you. It's just been lovely talking to you.

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Great, thank you so much.

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Thank you. Oh gosh, a big thank you to Lindsay for taking time out of her day and sharing so much knowledge with us. And just remember that every tiny choice you make today is helping your body rebuild a stronger, happier you. Or hopefully it is rebuilding a stronger, happier you. If you're taking steps in the wrong direction, let's stop right now and let's get you on the right path. And I don't know about you, but I am going to reach out to Lindsay. I mentioned this. Um, it may have been after our conversation. And in fact, we had some good nuggets after I stopped recording that I will probably share later in a different episode because I feel like it was really great information. But I am excited to get some type of workshop scheduled. It makes me wonder about my tailbone issues. Remember when I jumped out of the airplane and went skydiving and landed so hard and I thought it helped my hips, but then I developed this tailbone issue. Oh gosh. So it might just be a weak pelvic floor. I'm gonna explore it a little bit more, but um especially after our conversation today. So thank you so much for taking the time to listen. And if this episode lit a spark, please share it with another woman who deserves to feel amazing and needs this information. I'll see you next week. Thanks so much for listening. If you enjoy this podcast, it would mean so much to me if you take a few seconds to do each or all of the following. First, follow or subscribe to Spandex and Wine. It'll help you so you don't miss an episode, and it'll help me because you won't miss any episodes. To do this, you'll just go to the podcast, click subscribe or follow wherever you are listening. Look for the plus sign or follow button, and this is one of the best things that you can do for the podcast. So thank you. If you'd also be willing to give a five star review, that would be amazing. And lastly, please share an episode with a friend or five to keep the love going. I appreciate you. Thanks.